i was about to do the same

Same here.

Same

I'm looking at them but now not sure.

Johnny how do I know if my tire installer uses balance bags.

@@dirtbikewrecker4475 Its something your going to need to request. And not all tire shops do balance bags. You have to ask around various shops. Most commercial tire shops should carry them.

@@AZTrucker Not unhappy with the TW's, but having busted tires (before aluminum was a thing) never heard of balance bags (no computers in the shop back then all analog - points and caps). I like that TW is American and hope they succeed - so you should contact them if this is a real fix.

Let me add another update to another set I just had mounted a little over a month ago. We put 6oz balance bags in each as 3oz wasn't enough on this new set. I had them spin the tires on each rim 90 and it balanced out. Sometimes you have to play with the tire on the rim before you slap more weights. In my case it took doing both.

Are you referring to balance beads?

Nobody can be 100% unbiased in a review where they were give the product. I did my best, but who knows what I would have said had I paid for them. Thanks for being a subscriber!

Thanks for being a subscriber!

DCI IMHO How did your tires do after you ran them? I'm kinda on the fence myself about these. I am also interested in the same size tires as what you purchased. Would live to hear back from you!

You're welcome and I'm glad I can help. Like I said in the video, there's certainly a place for TW tires, but not on a DD.

I'm glad you've had good luck with your tires. I really wanted to like them but they caused me too many problems. What kind of terrain do you drive yours on?

With my Warden ATs just about everything you can imagine from just about every region of the US. Pavement, dirt roads, rock roads, sand, mud, rocks, snow, ice. Aired down as low as 8 psi in some places too. She is covered in pin stripes from 26 states at last count and spent lots of time in Northeast winters, Southeast summers, Northwest springs. The Wardens have performed pretty much identical to the BFG AT's they are modeled after and I used to run exclusively. So they are pretty good at a lot of things but suck bad in thick mud, do better than average in sand and powdery snow, got some pretty gnarly gouges banging around the hot rocks in AZ, etc. She is transitioning now to more of a dedicated trail rig in the Sierra Nevada region so I wanted to give the Guard Dogs a shot this time around. My experience with communication from the company has been consistently stellar as well. From their posts in various social media formats they really seem to make an effort to identify quality control issues and try to fix them. They have earned my loyalty as a great environmentally beneficial, affordable, seemingly customer oriented organization. As long as they keep striving to improve their process quality and consistency they will keep me as an outspoken cheerleader for them even though I don't get a dime of support from them. Maybe they will reach out to me one day and offer some swag! :) I'll be sure and check back in here on your channel in a few months after I've had some time thrashing these new tires. I drive the ever loving snot out of this truck so I can't wait to see what shape they're in six month down the road. When we get the sheet metal work down to clear the 35's I'll put some videos on my channel to give my feedback on the performance of these meats.

I feel that the Warden ATs are the superior tire overall from Treadwright from what I’ve heard, read, and researched. I am very serious about getting them in 285/70R17s but after having a lot of tire success with big name tires I am nervous to purchase a set even though they are very affordable compared to my favorite brand such as BFG, Firestone, and Toyo.

Thanks for watching, Jonny. My KO2's are 34x10.5r17 and typical of BFG tires they run smaller than their advertised size (they measure 32"). You bring up a good point and I did take that into consideration.Larger & more aggressive tires do wear components faster than stock tires. However, things I had just upgraded had to be replaced. My Synergy tie rod was a year old and both ends were loose. What astounded me the most was even my new Synergy ball joints were bad after only 4k miles on them. I expected the drag link to eventually fail as it was stock, but my steering box was unexpected. I've tightened the adjustment screw ontop of it and there's still a bunch of play in it, but at least I'm not white-knuckling the steering anymore. All that to say, I did expect my steering to wear from 35's but everything wore substantially quicker than they should have. How are the Ridge Grapplers working for you?

Berserker Offroad Ridge Grapplers have been great overall except going up a steep slick/wet trails. Another Jeep going up the same steep slick trail with the more aggressive Falken Wildpeak MT 35s seemed to do considerably better. I've only had them on for about 6,000 miles but I've been really happy with them. Super quiet.

I'm not sure. After I made these videos I stopped seeking out other people with these tires for their feedback.

Someday but nothing soon. Do you have questions I can answer?

I was already scheduled to have them install a dual battery kit so I had them check out my steering while I was there.

Thanks. They look like the Toyo Open Country M/T. I wonder if they perform similarly. I ran the Toyo for a few months and it was a monster tire.

Berserker Offroad Toyo's are great, Atturo's are nowhere near enough the performance of Toyo's. Great video BTW.

Thanks for watching it! What's your favorite tire to run there in Australia? Is it like vehicle choice where you have a different selection of brands?

I have trail blades. I wish I could give them away

Just wanted to ask if you got those tires installed yet? I'm in the same situation where I ordered before fully knowing what I was getting into. Mines gonna be a daily with alot of highway miles too, so its a little concerning with all the blowouts people are mentioning

@@lobehold2263 I did put them on my jeep, not alot of road noise, no weird vibrations. They were on the jeep for about for about a month and had no issues with them at all. I liked them, I might have only put 500 miles on them, but they were great form me. Not a long term review, but initial impression I really liked them. No issues

@@advguy84 Okay, thank you for the reply. I appreciate the info.

I did this for a while. Until my son "acquired" my extra set of rims for his Jeep..lol

It doesn't need to be that loud.

Glad to her you didn't have issues with them. The feedback I get is 50/50 good/bad.

@@Berserkeroffroad yeah and that's your odds on getting a good set ,,,but if you get a good set they are great tires

Are you asking for my opinion between these two, or in general? If you're sold on Treadwrights then get the Guard Dogs.

I didn't say or imply that at all. I even stated that aggressive tires are harder on the rig. My point is the Treadwright tires I had were defective and accelerated that wear. I'm glad they worked for you.

ive run low tread, unbalanced bias ply tsl sx swampers with some bark caught between the bead on the outer edge. They did not cause steering component failures. So at first i find his claim to be pretty outlandish, and adding in wheeling-well, wheeling in the rocks is about as hard as you can be on steering parts short of flat out trying to break them, or jumping. However, he does log a lot more miles than i did.

@@colinreingans8632 your situation has nothing to do with what I stated. Rim width throws off the pressure applied to the ball joints. Think in means of pivot and leverage. Without upgrading his ball joints to severe duty it will wear them out fast. If you've ever had to change a pittman arm you'd know how incredibly hard it is to get those off, much less it to come loose on it's own from beating on it. The tir rod or traction bars would get bent from the effort. I been wheeling and professionally turning wrenches for a very long time. Barring a gremlin. High improbable. Not impossible but very improbable.

@@dondavi5798 i was just agreeing with you, and stating that his thesis was flawed by my own experience. I added to your comment because it went against his idea.

@@colinreingans8632 Ah, my mistake. Read it as if it were toward my statement.

@@dondavi5798 Maybe i should have put it somewhere else. No worries.

After this video I sold the Guard Dogs to another Jeeper. In a year the tires practically shredded themselves apart.

They really are a hit-or-miss tire.

I ran treadwright for a month last summer and had one separate doing about 1k of damage to my truck... Never again.

@@Berserkeroffroad So why do you say go ahead and try them?

@@brentbradley6711 if it's a trail rig only.

@@Berserkeroffroad You didn't say that, just admit they are garbage. So now you have to trailer it?...…...come on.

Thank you for your lengthy and sensible response. Regardless of how they were stored, the tires were still misshapen and had terrible on-road manners. My steering wheel was, in fact, shaking violently. On neither set could I drive highway speeds without a shaking Jeep. I did not proclaim all TreadWright tires were bad or faulty. Many users of their product enthusiastically tell me they love the tires. I've also heard from an equal number of people that were delivered defective tires- out of round, exposed belts, chunks missing from the tires, tread flaking off, etc. But I only shared my experience with them, which was poor after two sets of different treads. 8 oz. is what I was told by the tire tech at 4 Wheel Parts, and it was a single tire. The other three were off by 3-4 oz. I was truthful with my experiences. I consulted several tire technicians like yourself, and installers, before releasing this video, and they agreed that the tires I had were defective. One tech told me he'd never seen his tire balancer wobble so badly. In the end I stand behind my conclusion and I caution anyone that is considering these tires. Thank you again for your insight- it's nice to have a well-rounded comment like this opposed to some that get caught in KZfaq's profanity filter.

@@Berserkeroffroad , thanks for a respectful, level headed response. You are right that it is a rare thing these days to deal with someone who doesn't fly off the handle with disrespectful language and a poor attitude. It's also nice to see someone capable of holding up their end of the argument with more clarification and real-world information instead of made-up BS, so thank you for that as well, sir. I would just like to reiterate that I am in no way claiming you didn't experience what you say you did, and I would also like to further clarify some of my points. In regards to tires being out of round and that being mostly a storage issue, I wasn't meaning that gets Tread Wright off the hook at all. Seeing as they ship direct, and you are not buying them from a retailer, Tread Wright is responsible for how their tires are stored. I was just pointing out it's not really a "defect", but a result of mishandling. This just means that it can, and does, happen to a lot of other tires, including brand new ones. Also, if they did get your Tread Wrights to finally balance out before installing them, any shaking was likely due to out of roundness. Also, if they were calling the tire defective due to requiring 8 oz. to balance it, I would say that's a fair conclusion, but that would only be that one. The best way to avoid getting tires that may be out of round is to get recently produced ones. Check the DOT stamping for date code. I would not accept any that were approaching a year old. Also, keep in mind there's yet another problem with tires that have been sitting around a while since being produced (or remoulded in the case of Tread Wrights): the time spent in storage counts against the RMA's recommendation to not run tires older than 6 years. I did not set out to tear you down or anything like that, so I hope you didn't take my critique too hard. I simply wanted to point out you should have included some of the statements you made in your response to me, clarifying that this is just what happened in your experience with the tires you were delivered, and doesn't necessarily mean Tread Wright tires are no good, and also explain a bit as to why you may have experienced the problems you did, instead of leaving people to think all Tread Wrights will make their vehicle shake. Just to clarify for anyone who may think so at this point: I am not a Tread Wright fanboy. I have not even had any personal experience with the tires. I would just like to see an American made upstart brand get a fair shake, especially since they seem to be a bit more environmentally responsible option. I don't fault you for not wanting to keep those tires on if they were shaking your Jeep apart, I just wish you had made it a bit more clear to your audience ALL the possible reasons why it could be happening, instead of leaving them thinking the tires are crap without a fair evaluation. The second set (Guard Dogs) you said seemed good when first installed, and then they started shaking later after some off-road use. This was most likely due to pieces of tread being chunked off during off roading, and possibly also mud and stuff caked onto the back side of the wheel, or possibly even having thrown a wheel weight. These are all things that could happen to any set of tires. If you've had better experience with your BFG's, that's awesome, but it probably has more to do with luck than tire quality. Now if there are people who have documented cases of receiving tires in the condition you mentioned (cords exposed) that would definitely be a major concern. However, if it's merely an opinion on the internet, remember, people like to exaggerate quite a bit for dramatic effect. In summation, I will concede that there was likely an issue with your first set. Most likely an out of round issue. But the Guard Dogs were probably just fine, you just happened to have gone through an off road situation that left them worse for wear, which could easily happen to any tire. I roasted a decent BFG Rugged Trail tire on my '96 ZJ, on a relatively mild obstacle where it was up on a rock face in a dry Creek bed I was turning around in. The rock face happened to be basically the exact right texture to act like a freakin' cheese grater on my tire, and with only very minimal spinning, it was basically bald, and it was done unevenly, so ride quality issues ensued as a result. Hope you have better luck with your BFG's (if that's what you switched back to), and sorry if I seemed a bit hard on you. Have a great day, and be safe out there.

I appreciate the time you've taken to clarify your points, @4WDriver. And no worries- I didn't take offense to what you said. I'm with you 100% in regards to wanting this American company to succeed. That's why at the end I still endorsed them as an off-road tire alternative, but your "mileage may vary" if you intend to drive on the highway. And your feedback is exactly what I asked for in the video. I'm just one person with my own experiences that happens to have a platform to share it on. Having others contribute their knowledge and insights only betters the community.

I've been running TreadWrights in 33" for 3 years now on 2 different sets. TW customer service is unbeatable based out of Texas and anytime I've had any inkling of an issue they've been able to resolve it immediately and above my expectation.

4wdriver you are so wrong, I have owned Claws and Dogs. They all got tons of weights and some had one pound (yes one) plus the violent blowout and 3 more bulges. (All 4 were flawed big time.)

Sansui Mcpeters tire recapper is a great website