The Complete Evolution of Pictomancers

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Pictomancer is one of the less common Jobs from across the Final Fantasy franchise, but it has been thrust into the spotlight with Final Fantasy XIV Dawntrail. This video covers the evolution of the Job.
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@wilsbowski
@wilsbowski 11 күн бұрын
"We don't often include the Bravely series in these videos" but since there are fuck all pictomancers other than Relm we decided we needed something!
@GameKnight404
@GameKnight404 10 күн бұрын
I really wish they would talk about Bravely more, it’s a good series.
@mhiggs8001
@mhiggs8001 10 күн бұрын
They’re gonna have to do something because there is only so much FF topics they can come up with. Even though I’ve thoroughly enjoyed most all they’re stuff, they’ve really limited themselves as a channel by only covering FF which is a shame since they’re very good at presenting topics in an enjoyable way!
@slickdrick
@slickdrick 10 күн бұрын
@@wilsbowski yeah there's no pictos in FF16 either because that game isn't even an RPG and doesn't have anything resembling jobs.
@frontfacingjoe9235
@frontfacingjoe9235 9 күн бұрын
​@@slickdrickaction rpg is still an rpg
@slickdrick
@slickdrick 9 күн бұрын
@@frontfacingjoe9235 I agree, however ff16 is not an rpg. its a hack n slash. FF7 rebirth is an action rpg. The witcher 3 is an action rpg. skyrim is an action rpg. even ff15 is an action rpg. Not a very good one but its still an rpg. FF16 is action thats for sure but its not an rpg.
@voidteahouse5883
@voidteahouse5883 8 күн бұрын
Recently I saw 2 players arguing in "say" chat in Limsa, and one of them said "Don't fuck with me. I'm a lv 100 Picto, I can draw you pregnant" XD
@Dinivas
@Dinivas 8 күн бұрын
Makes it rather fun that the job unlock quest in FFXIV calls the player "a RELM reborn" putting in a pun to both Relm and ARR.
@setsuya5785
@setsuya5785 20 сағат бұрын
Its koji for you
@evilgibson
@evilgibson 8 күн бұрын
17:48 Krille always had the cat ear hood 😂
@samus20018
@samus20018 6 күн бұрын
Yeah her design was based on FF5 Krile's white mage outfit.
@enlongjones2394
@enlongjones2394 10 күн бұрын
Another note about Pictomancer in Bravely 2 It used the concept of colors instead of completed paintings to do various effects. Red would debuff attack power, purple would reduce healing, and so on. Pictomancer in XIV also carries over a bit of the concept of colors alone, using colors to evoke elements.
@chazon1780
@chazon1780 9 күн бұрын
Even further than that, the colors used referance the colors of LIGHT rather than the standard colors seen in paints. The primary colors (your standard attacking spells) are Red, Blue and GREEN while your secondary colors (usable only after activating Subtractive Palette) are Magenta, Cyan, and Yellow. Combine them all and you get white, while the absence of any color is black.
@tazlolol
@tazlolol 11 күн бұрын
Lvl 100 Pictomancer here and it's FANTASTIC.
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 9 күн бұрын
I’m only at level 93 at this time, and it’s genuinely *fantastic*. Honestly it’s a 10/10 job and it’s something I hope more jobs be like in the future. It’s so much fun
@zachsroomYT
@zachsroomYT 8 күн бұрын
I love hammer time XD
@XellosTheDragon
@XellosTheDragon 7 күн бұрын
Yes! It is officially my favorite job of every expansion
@theztav
@theztav 11 күн бұрын
Actually, Relm was closer to a Pictomancer in DFFOO than in any other of the spin offs. The sketch ability would make Relm draw the summon you had equipped on your party and the effect of the skill would vary. Equipping Ifrit would deal fire damage, equipping Shiva would do Ice damage, equipping Sylph would heal the party and etc.
@KenjiShiratsuki
@KenjiShiratsuki 10 күн бұрын
That was sketch summon. Sketch just inflicted a debuff that let you go before the enemy with it. Sketching yourself in before their turn. :3
@beechteeth
@beechteeth 9 күн бұрын
Krile's outfit in FFXIV is actually based on the sprite of Krile in her White Mage outfit from FFV
@davids2977
@davids2977 11 күн бұрын
Pictomancer would have been amazing in FFX-2. I wish they added it for the Remaster, since Festivalist is basically pointless.
@grimreapergames
@grimreapergames 11 күн бұрын
Realm is also the name of the creator of pictomance in ffxiv.
@adamraserovaquera
@adamraserovaquera 9 күн бұрын
Behold a Relm Reborn! \o/
@kanae1345
@kanae1345 10 күн бұрын
Yay, thanks for showing Opera Omnia! Relm was adorable in that game, both in battle and the story! Also, my fav Pictomancer is Adeleine from Kirby 64! Pictomancers rule!
@joeyc.9622
@joeyc.9622 11 күн бұрын
One of the original writers of The Last Airbender, Michael Dante DiMartino, has a fantasy duology of novels based around the Pictomancy concept. I believe the title is Rebel Genius.
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 8 күн бұрын
Really?!
@joeyc.9622
@joeyc.9622 8 күн бұрын
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 Yup. Rebel Genius by DiMartino. Check it out!
@joeyc.9622
@joeyc.9622 8 күн бұрын
@@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 Yup! Like I said, Rebel Genius by Michael DiMartino. Check it out!
@kfk4441
@kfk4441 10 күн бұрын
When someone says "Pictomancers don't belong to FFXIV" show them this
@SapphireMan08
@SapphireMan08 9 күн бұрын
Who is saying dumb shit like that to start with though?
@PervertedNovaxc3
@PervertedNovaxc3 9 күн бұрын
@@SapphireMan08 Probably the same people who claim Solution 9 doesn't fit into xiv
@HikingFeral
@HikingFeral 8 күн бұрын
@@SapphireMan08 The same people leaving negative reviews for DT on Steam because Wuk Lamat's voice actor is trans.
@orrthehunter
@orrthehunter 7 күн бұрын
​@@SapphireMan08 people who do not know Relm exists.
@MazeeKasurame
@MazeeKasurame 6 күн бұрын
​​@@HikingFeralIs that true? amazing~ and with amazing I mean I find it wonderful if her VA is trans. ... I figured I had to clarify as my og statement, now that I look at it, can be taken out of context too easily...
@jacobdriscoll8276
@jacobdriscoll8276 11 күн бұрын
I feel like you missed an opportunity to talk about the design of Relm's abilities in the light of FF5's Beastmaster mechanics. Sketch is, mechanically, like Catch/Release, and Control is almost exactly lifted from FF5. Relm in FF5 is a Beastmaster with a high Evasion/Magic score!
@enlongjones2394
@enlongjones2394 10 күн бұрын
Yep. Her abilities mirror the beastmasfer job. The main difference is Sketch immediately fires off a copy of her target’s ability, rather than catching and storing the target for later use. Several characters in 6 have abilities mirroring jobs in 5, and relics demonstrate some others.
@DolFunDolhpinVtuber
@DolFunDolhpinVtuber 10 күн бұрын
I love using Relm in F VI
@Forever_Zero
@Forever_Zero 11 күн бұрын
This video is the proof we need more pictomancers. I'm glad they've been receiving more attention recently
@AtariSwitch
@AtariSwitch 10 күн бұрын
Considering how thin the content you had to draw from, I'm surprised you didn't find a way to mention 7's hypnocrown.
@franistart
@franistart 9 күн бұрын
5 had a hypnocrown as well. I bet it will be discussed when beastmaster comes out
@sonnyson01
@sonnyson01 11 күн бұрын
Just in time for Dawntrail!!! I'm thoroughly enjoying the class right now
@Majinmccowen
@Majinmccowen 11 күн бұрын
Been so cool seeing this channels massive growth. Congratulations and keep up the great work!
@jaypro6269
@jaypro6269 9 күн бұрын
Technically Krile had the cat-ear hood first, as she premiered in 5, while Relm is in 6.
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 11 күн бұрын
PCT is my new main in 14
@michaelrodriguez4818
@michaelrodriguez4818 11 күн бұрын
I swear I love your videos and I love even more the inclusion of the mobile games. But it also breaks my heart since some of those mobile games were shut down and I was very dedicated to them all.
@drewtheunspoken3988
@drewtheunspoken3988 11 күн бұрын
This may well be the most focused and specialized Final Fantasy video ever made. And I'm here for it.
@antiquatedg0ld
@antiquatedg0ld 10 күн бұрын
RIP Opera Omnia T_T
@TyrWolf88
@TyrWolf88 4 күн бұрын
Y'know, OG Picto was mechanically more similar to Blue Mage or Beast Master, seeing as how the whole thing is about copying or controlling enemies. Might explain why it doesn't appear very often.
@alexkeller3022
@alexkeller3022 5 күн бұрын
Another fun reference in FFXIV is that in the pictomancer job quest, it talks about how an Archon named Archon Relm created the art of pictomancy.
@Fauntleroy.
@Fauntleroy. 11 күн бұрын
I always felt like Van in Chrono Cross was also bordering on being a Pictomancer.
@Pikachu-qr4yb
@Pikachu-qr4yb 10 күн бұрын
Yassss
@millsxi
@millsxi 10 күн бұрын
I agree!
@promethiac2641
@promethiac2641 11 күн бұрын
Not once did I ever try to take a picture of everything in any compendium (Zelda).. are you nuts? Wait... Pictomancer? I may not know what that is lol
@seraphus6287
@seraphus6287 10 күн бұрын
I've said this before, but... I still think you should do an evolution video on everything that has the name Ultima in it; equipment, summons, enemies, lore, etc. It pops up so much Final Fantasy it should get it's own detailed break down. Anyone else?
@KenjiShiratsuki
@KenjiShiratsuki 10 күн бұрын
Currently playing Pictomancer. The job quests are rather good. The job has some BONKERS alpha strike. Pom Muse>Swiftcasted Motif>Wing Muse>Mog of the Ages>Hammer Muse>Hammer combo takes out a good 10% of most boss' HP bars in as many seconds. It's really nice.
@ennosoliveira8684
@ennosoliveira8684 11 күн бұрын
I love every video of underground jobs
@aaronlefebre5060
@aaronlefebre5060 11 күн бұрын
I couldn't imagine this one was too long, seeing as there's only so many entries. But fun to watch, nonetheless!
@Flamsterette
@Flamsterette 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the upload on CANADA DAY 2024!
@user-sw6ni2tq6h
@user-sw6ni2tq6h 10 күн бұрын
Great video!
@franknfoot7200
@franknfoot7200 4 күн бұрын
So few of these Pictomancers that we show the only 2 twice 😂
@jezixhylus3370
@jezixhylus3370 4 күн бұрын
Krile’s cat-ear hood has been a staple of her outfit since she was first introduced in… Heavensward was it? Most likely coming from the Sage outfit from FF3 (my guess, at least).
@Nimasho2go
@Nimasho2go 9 күн бұрын
I like how in the Opera Omnia section, you showed a scene of Relm talking to Krile. (The significance of which you explain later)
@bahamut1169
@bahamut1169 11 күн бұрын
Good job
@bahamut1169
@bahamut1169 11 күн бұрын
Also we need updated version of the bahamut evolution 😊
@maugos
@maugos 11 күн бұрын
Alteration I feel is the main aspect of the pictomancer. Makes sense since art tends to alter as the artist makes it. Whether you're applying different paints or using different layers in photoshop the idea of alteration as you continue creating is perfect for this job's overall theme.
@Dragon66898
@Dragon66898 11 күн бұрын
Cool concept
@AkaiAzul
@AkaiAzul 9 күн бұрын
Oh, this gives me ideas for a Scribe job!
@chrisdillon8376
@chrisdillon8376 2 күн бұрын
Excellent punnery in this vid!
@Beryllahawk
@Beryllahawk 10 күн бұрын
You guys had quite a bit of fun with this script, didn't you! Haha! Loved the humor! I've not made up my mind about FFXIV's take on Pictomancer, not yet, but it's certainly creating quite a buzz among the folks I play with!
@Amateracu1991DFFOO
@Amateracu1991DFFOO 11 күн бұрын
That DFFOO Relm sprite hits hard...
@makisbizarreadventure4669
@makisbizarreadventure4669 11 күн бұрын
RIP Opera Omnia. They could have atleast released an offline version but nooo
@Psydkik
@Psydkik 7 күн бұрын
Those picture puns lol
@jcrizzle
@jcrizzle 10 күн бұрын
I thought the Pictomancer was the Beastmaster Class of FFV remodeled. It does very similar things.
@enlongjones2394
@enlongjones2394 10 күн бұрын
It basically is. Sketch is effectively the Catch and Release ability turned into one move. Instead of storing a monster for later use, Relm copies her target’s ability immediately. Which, sadly, is less effective in most cases. And then she gets the control ability, which functions almost identically to beast master. It’s neat how the aesthetic concept of using magic paint to create things became a different kind of concept later on.
@jcrizzle
@jcrizzle 10 күн бұрын
@@enlongjones2394 Why isn't it mentioned though?
@jcrizzle
@jcrizzle 10 күн бұрын
It is petty but just saying. Still a great vid.
@enlongjones2394
@enlongjones2394 10 күн бұрын
@@jcrizzle I don’t know, I’m not the writer.
@jcrizzle
@jcrizzle 10 күн бұрын
I know lol. My bad
@Oblic008
@Oblic008 8 күн бұрын
This could have easily been called "The complete evolution of Relm."
@hiatusinc
@hiatusinc 9 күн бұрын
Picto is very fun to play in FFXIV and out-dpses every. SINGLE. CLASS (as of 7.0 - might get nerfed in the future)
@neko-lord
@neko-lord 3 күн бұрын
This video should be called "The evolution of Relm"
@danielramsey6141
@danielramsey6141 10 күн бұрын
Funny enough. There is a Final Fantasy-like TTRPG game called Fabula Ultima that recently received a Job that had been in the Works for a while. Fabula Ultima introduced the “SYMBOLIST” Job Class!
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 11 күн бұрын
pictomancer, Cartoon Violence the class.
@Vyse195
@Vyse195 10 күн бұрын
Since I like to try every job I will be trying out the answer. I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy it.
@jeremyberner5164
@jeremyberner5164 11 күн бұрын
Good video
@pringerx1337
@pringerx1337 10 күн бұрын
Would you ever make a video analyzing the “three faces of eve” that shows up in a lot of the FF games?
@JankyToe
@JankyToe 10 күн бұрын
Great video! I see you've really _brushed_ up on your _hue-mor!_ What a _stroke_ of genius, I'm positively _drawn_ to these kinds of videos! Sorry.
@Baron_Lio
@Baron_Lio 10 күн бұрын
Imagine being the dev that was trying to explain it to people..... "PICTURE THIS"
@EclipseHighroller
@EclipseHighroller 10 күн бұрын
Could you PLEASE do a gambler video?
@eternalsummer8409
@eternalsummer8409 7 күн бұрын
The evolution of Pictomancers: enix “ah shit we forgot this existed..well fuck it, let’s put it in 14”
@eternalsummer8409
@eternalsummer8409 7 күн бұрын
To clarify I mean this as a light hearted joke, I personally love how for 14 enix often looks back at its old properties and themes and references them and such
@flaffles87
@flaffles87 10 күн бұрын
The flashy style would set fire to my current computer. I need an upgrade to best enjoy the visuals before I pick XIV back up again.
@La_Espada_Sin_Nombre
@La_Espada_Sin_Nombre 10 күн бұрын
Ah yes, my favorite video, the complete evolution of Relm.
@JoshuaVerscha
@JoshuaVerscha 10 күн бұрын
Pictomancers in 14 right now do way too much dmg. I dont play it yet but love, looove having them in my groups lol.
@HanabiraKage
@HanabiraKage 9 күн бұрын
All the motif-related actions do disgusting damage, especially the hammers which are three consecutive instant casts (albeit with a ~5s cast + an instant cast gcd as setup) that are guaranteed to be critical direct hits. Which is insane.
@caseykiesling4348
@caseykiesling4348 10 күн бұрын
Complete history of characters named Ramza Belouve next please
@TheBucknative
@TheBucknative 11 күн бұрын
So... Relm
@JaidynReiman
@JaidynReiman 11 күн бұрын
And Bravely Default 2 if you want to count that. Edit: Which he did.
@CloudianMH
@CloudianMH 11 күн бұрын
Well the last 2 videos have just been ff14 bait.
@jupiterjazz9421
@jupiterjazz9421 10 күн бұрын
Didn't Krile have a kitty hood in ffv as well?
@cbarcher8527
@cbarcher8527 9 күн бұрын
The history of Pictomancers. ... There was Relm... Thank you for listening!
@RoseDarksbane
@RoseDarksbane 7 күн бұрын
"if you're going to play pictomancer in 14" I'm already level 100 pictomancer :3
@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730
@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 11 күн бұрын
Would Zexion from Kingdom Hearts 2, 358/2 Days, and Chain of Memories count as a sort of pictomancer?
@PervertedNovaxc3
@PervertedNovaxc3 9 күн бұрын
I'd say no. He doesn't draw any thing at all, he just uses a book as a weapon.
@beresfordcrowder9511
@beresfordcrowder9511 10 күн бұрын
Sounds like an iteration of blue mage and his ability to steal magic from enemies
@dr_tal
@dr_tal 10 күн бұрын
New expansion had been out for like 2 days.
@twelfthknight
@twelfthknight 10 күн бұрын
The Pictomancer has a great "class fantasy" - as they say in the TTRPG space - with a magipunk Renaissance artist-meets-summoner vibe, but the clunkiness of Relm's mechanics made it pretty unintuitive from a game design standpoint to build upon. Which is ideal for FFXIV, as they have to redesign the Job's mechanics from the ground up anyways the harder bit is creating a strong visual and thematic hook to draw players in. I especially like how XIV made their Pictomancer have these longer charge times for certain spells as it feels very natural to tie that to something as time-consuming as painting a portrait.
@KRJayster
@KRJayster 11 күн бұрын
Ah yes, the evolution of pictomancer’s, all… two examples. XD
@SirSongi
@SirSongi 8 күн бұрын
As a picto main. Imma paint YOU in pvp >:)
@pedrohenriquemonteirodacos3224
@pedrohenriquemonteirodacos3224 10 күн бұрын
The pictomances fells like it is a Summoner but whit twist. Honestly as much i like the concept, i think thta is kind gimmick back the GBA remake that i played so i prefers to uses other charactes as means to inflict damage mostly becauses her attacks ofen healed the opponent instead of dealing damage.
@ketripon
@ketripon 2 күн бұрын
the way picto thoroughly dethroned black mage as highest magic damage in ff14 will forever be funny to me (they are going to nerf this job into the ground)
@bandi138138
@bandi138138 10 күн бұрын
I actually really enjoyed Opera Omnia. Disappointed it was nixed
@rumotu
@rumotu 10 күн бұрын
When i heard pictomancer comes to ff14 I wanted to give it another shot. But the map navigation and screen clutter in the game are so terrible that it made my head physically hurt.
@HanabiraKage
@HanabiraKage 9 күн бұрын
You can edit your UI to better suit your tastes. Try doing that to reduce clutter.
@TragicArchAngel
@TragicArchAngel 7 күн бұрын
Bravely Default 😻
@Rhin0beak
@Rhin0beak 10 күн бұрын
Gah I want to get into ffxiv so bad but every time I try I get burnt out quick
@Dogan_TM
@Dogan_TM 10 күн бұрын
The lack of art in 14's Pictomancer was a little disappointing. Just a moogle, hammer, starry night, and some elements... and whatever the LB is. Think it was a spriggan or something
@HanabiraKage
@HanabiraKage 9 күн бұрын
Probably the rainbow spriggan Krile draws in the trailer? Technically there's a little more art with a claw + maw forming the summon Madeen.
@wtfsamusidk7574
@wtfsamusidk7574 10 күн бұрын
Relm best girl of ff6
@silvertalon215
@silvertalon215 6 күн бұрын
IMO Bravely Default is more Final Fantasy than current Final Fantasy
@erics8192
@erics8192 9 күн бұрын
stamina didn't matter in ff6
@nemothenobody7859
@nemothenobody7859 10 күн бұрын
Comment.
@Racerguardguy
@Racerguardguy 9 күн бұрын
DFFOO!!! Relm!! :(
@stevemanart
@stevemanart 11 күн бұрын
Lithomancer is a better name for the class. Lithograph is a word rooted in Greek and refers to a form of artistry. The suffix mancy/mancer comes from the Greek Necromancy; the art of divination via reading the entrails of a dead animal.
@stephensmith4025
@stephensmith4025 5 күн бұрын
This job is such a mess in FFXIV.
@AzureRoxe
@AzureRoxe 9 күн бұрын
Kinda sucks that Pictomancer has slowly lost their uniqueness to the point that it was added to FFXIV as simply another magic DPS.
@Castersvarog
@Castersvarog 8 күн бұрын
You say that, but it’s easily one of the most popular and well built jobs from a design perspective.
@andrasylvan9915
@andrasylvan9915 9 күн бұрын
I just wish this class stayed outside FF14. Maybe as a limited job not an actual job. Its basically a semi-recycle of Black Mage with hideous paint animations
@georgehouliaras7239
@georgehouliaras7239 8 күн бұрын
Poor Shadow. His daughter has the worst job in the series.
@Mystwarrior1
@Mystwarrior1 6 күн бұрын
Intro was too long. Got bored B4 it even start.
@xaby996
@xaby996 8 күн бұрын
Stop showing only clips from the pixel remasters! The art is disgusting and spits in the face of the source material.
@slickdrick
@slickdrick 11 күн бұрын
Wont find a pictomancer or any job for that matter in FF16. Wont find any rpg game play mechanics in 16 either. Also please stop talking about the welfare mobile games. Nobody gives af about those
@Siensane
@Siensane 11 күн бұрын
You fight a Dragoon like an hour into the game.
@slickdrick
@slickdrick 10 күн бұрын
@@Siensane No you fight like clive which isnt a job its just clive.
@Siensane
@Siensane 10 күн бұрын
@@slickdrick Learn how to read.
@slickdrick
@slickdrick 10 күн бұрын
@@Siensane I don't know if you noticed me typing out sentences but that's a pretty telling sign that I do, in fact, know how to read.
@Siensane
@Siensane 10 күн бұрын
@@slickdrick Then reread what I typed.
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