I am always honest, and won't shy away just because I want to please an owner! Thanks for supporting the channel

My pleasure. And something I intend to continue doing.

thank you too ;)

Underrated comment. The external angle mostly matters for packaging. The crank will determine the firing, tuning, etc.

@@brois841 Just looked again at the beginning of this video and Jay is talking nonsense about the V angle. Also, no-one and I mean NO-ONE makes a V6 by cutting 2 cylinders off a V8. They may design a V6 using the same cylinder dimensions, cams etc but why not. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it. Too many reviewers are fixated on 'new' and denigrate anything that appears similar to an older product. This is just stupid. Use the correct design for the job and if that's the same as you used last time in a different product (engine), what's the problem with that. If Jay thinks that the V6 crank is simply a shortened V8 crank, I suggest he needs to learn more about engine design.

@@UKenGB which is why I said underrated comment ;)

If that was true that they just simply cut 2 cylinders off it would be a 3750 cc engine not a 3.0 litre

To restore even firing intervals in a 90 deg block, the common big end journals are off-set by 30 deg, to simulate a 60 deg vee for the six. 90 deg in a V8 has even firing intervals and excellent balance with a cross-plane crank.

me neither!

And wrong.

anthony mackintosh : I had a DB9 Volante before buying my F-Type and had the same experience. The Aston was gorgeous but a piece of trash.

I agree on the issue of power. I have a bog standard XK and its 5.0l engine is way powerful enough. Lord knows why anyone would want the 'R' let alone the 'RS'....

This is why I think the V6 version is the best out of the lot of them for sound and feel. Feels more like an old British sports car with a 6 instead of a fancy muscle car

lol. look out for a Lotus Europa S. Cheaper and neater, but i'm biased.

welcome to my world! but I'm keeping the F Type for now

Get an Evora (NA) if you cannot stretch to a 400; it's 90% as good.

John Elder Mainly budget, John. NA is plenty quick enough, too.

Read his video of why he sold his Evora 400 first.

I'm looking forward to it!

Me too

Some dodgy British one with bad teeth

They're blanked off, not cut off.

I'm confident about my fashion choices

Comments written before the end of a video are my favourite :)

Evora can be as good a GT.

I drove the SVR convertible

Jag don't make their gearbox either. I love the Jag V8, but the V6 is not cool. Historically Jaguar have also used Ford engines and pieces too.

The point I'm making is that (nearly) ALL cars are an engineering compromise. The manufacturer knows who they want to sell a vehicle to and they engineer it to the price point for that customer. Saying the V6 is not cool compared to the V8 is not really helpful to most people. The V8 is at least $35k, and as much as $55k more on the BASE price. By the time I've optioned it and paid tax I'm looking at double the price. Not many people have that kind of budget flexibility. AND, when you really think about it, driving straight roads with traffic lights at every intersection does it make a huge amount of difference in everyday driving? Of course the Jag had Ford switch gear, they were owned by Ford at one point. Astons of the same era also had Ford switch gear. My Lotus has a bunch of Vauxhall switchgear and an Isuzu engine as both were owned by GM at the time. I'm a huge Lotus fan and I love the Lotus content, your delivery is great (constructive criticism), but I think you need to differentiate which cars should and should not be viewed through the Lotus lens. There has never been a cross-over between these ownership groups so why force it? Of course the cars feel different, one is a lightweight mid-engined pocket rocket, the other a heavy-weight boulevard cruiser. I'm starting a drinking game - take a chug every time you hear the phrase 'in the Evora'.

Andrew I appreciate your viewpoint. One thing to remember is mine will always be UK centric. Over here, a Corvette starts at $100,000. There is one dealer. They sell ONE car a month! I can buy a used V8 F Type for less than a used Evora 400. I suspect they are way cheaper here than in the USA. I also live surrounded by straight roads, and obviously that impacts my viewpoint too. I think the comparison with the Lotus is quite valid. Both V6. Both near 400hp. Both British. Both around 70k with pricier options available. Both make a good noise. I do try my best to keep comparisons relevant! Eg my hatchback videos. Thanks for your continued viewership, i do appreciate it.

JayEmm on Cars JayEmm on Cars Saying the f type v6 isn't cool is a bit daft to the majority of people who praise and love the car. Comparing the f type to an evora is also pretty pointless. I found this to be one of your oddest reviews and contradictory. I see what you are saying that people want to see what an evora is like compared to other cars but it's apples and oranges. There are more than enough reasons why the f type is so much more popular than an evora.

I understand you're uk centric - but I expect the v6 and v8 to be roughly the same cost ratios in quids or $$. The point being few people will shop for the V6 and be sold up to the V8 - even though the V8 may be the 'better' car. On paper I think the Lotus and Jag look much much closer than they do in real life. The fact you have a Lotus but never looked at the Jag, and Tom has a Jag but has never driven a Lotus says everything about the real world. It may have been interesting to explore why this is in the video. The Evora is in very limited supply here on the resale market so values are up with new models, clearly there are more f-types but if you're looking for a 2017 V8 you're going to pay around $90K plus tax - very comparable to the Evora. Different horses for different courses!

I really don't know. The car is 150kg heavier than the BMW I tested, which had a hard folding roof!

The average car customer is an idiot. That is why they buy faux SUVs not useful estate cars

Between the two. Better handling for sports driving than the Z4, but less comfortable than both.

JayEmm on Cars do you think z4 handles little worse because of those crashy runflats? I replaced those with Michelin p4s and it's a major improvement. BTW I'm talking 35is specifically

The car I drove was not on the runflats. It is just setup too soft, it doesnt hold together in the corners well at all

A Lotus is a gentleman's sports car too, at least they used to be

A lotus certainly isn't a gentlemen's car, lmfao.

This "comment" shows you haven't noticed the date this was filmed on, or even watched or listened to what I had to say about the car

@@JayEmmOnCars what does it matter when the video was filmed? The video is finally all about criticizing the FType. Even bevor driving you started to criticize the technology and what Jaguar has done wrong on that car. If I would have been the owner of the Jag, your trip would have ended before it's start.

It matters because my technique, opinions, etc... have changed. It's all about context. Also I still stand by a lot of what I said about the car back then, and its owner agreed with me. He wasnt blind to the car's faults

We did do my drive first.

U seriously need to check out a newer review with a decent reviewer. This guy even years ago is complaining about it being a couple of hundred kilos more than a LOTUS which r ultralight cars & carpet is even an option & how can he moan about tyre size as it has one of the smallest in its class n he keeps going on about weight with two huge blokes in at & driving the bottom of class V6 n nope I don’t think you would just cut off pistons to make a 90% camber. Although the F Type starts at 47k.

Have a look. It's basically the fact you can space the firing evenly - 90 degrees is correct for a V8 but not a V6.

A bmw m4 and m2 Bland? in whot way because m2 has wide arches and aggressive front and m4 is just evil looking at front and most would say the best looking coupe out there today And id say lot more heavy on the fuel than a m2 m4 with that 3ltr v6 supercharged engine

jonny jones I averaged 35mpg to Monaco which is pretty good for a supercharged v6. If you show a non car person an M4 or M2 it looks like any other BMW. It's samey. You look at an f type and you know what it is. With an m car it's like is that actually an M4 or is it an m body kit spec car or has he made a replica etc. There is no replicating an f type. I did test drive the M4 and I didn't like the interior. I don't like the M2 either I personally feel it looks cheaper inside and out for the price compared to an f type. I don't know of anyone who's said you should have got an M4 it's better looking since buying my f type. that's including my friends who love BMWs and own a couple of e92 m3s m140i and an e46 csl. They agreed with my choice.

everyone to there own likes buddy and I did look at a f type but not that much room for a 6ft 5 bloke the m2 and m4 would kill the f type v6 for speed

F type is nice, but so poorly designed for anyone over 6 foot

jonny jones haha I'm not that tall only 6ft 1 I don't find it too bad. I see your problem.

People in the UK I think wanted the perceived better fuel economy

In my opinion the original XK (96-06) has styling which is evocative of the E-type whilst carrying on Jaguar's lineage from the E-type to the mid nineties. The newer aluminium body XK just looks like a very nice car, but the interior is mostly black and outside styling isn't quite as timeless.

I don't know about him moving premesis, he is normally there but he's more of a late night than an early morning person. Always good to ring ahead!

JayEmm on Cars will do thanks Jay

Drive an Evora. It's far from an "almost track car". In fact it probably rides better than the Jag!

JayEmm on Cars cayman destroys the f type

...but not the Evora.

It needs the V8 I think

found it

Well said crooky1811. I have just spent a few months researching my next car, and reached the conclusion the XK is the best car for me out there. I have admittedly only had it a month but having put over 2,000 miles on it am pleased to report back I am dead certain I made the correct choice. Better still, they are now incredibly affordable...

You should definitely watch my F Type SVR review

@@JayEmmOnCars ....I will James...

Sounds awesome. A bit like the E34 BMW I used to own, with a 3L V8.

JayEmm on Cars yes I should imagine a similar sound. But it highlights further the question, why make a 3.0 v6 out of a v8 block in the first place.

Cost saving.

They did. For a while Ford owned both Jag and Aston.

JayEmm on Cars And Land Rover too during the same era!

Except most of Jaguar's literature bangs on about how light and agile it is. A second hand Vantage can be had for similar money, and is frequently discussed as being an alternative to a used (but newer) Jag

This is not me being harsh. This is me being honest, then pleasantly surprised.

One long whine

I agree with Jay's review. And in my opinion (all due respect to the owner and other F-type fans, my 2004 XK8 is better in every way. The engine sounds divine. The looks, well what can I say. The ride/handling balance makes it feel like the car was set up by very serious engineers. It has basically every option the F-type in this video has. The only options it doesn't have which were available at the time are radar guided cruise control and computer controlled dampers. In terms of tech, let those two options (which admittedly mine doesn't have) sink in, those were available in the year 2000! I know Jay has said he wasn't a huge fan of the original XK8, but I have a suspicion (and this is the biggest downside to the car) that the one he drove probably had knackered suspension. They just eat through rubber bushes, and there are many of them. A fully refreshed and sorted XK8 drives so differently one with worn out suspension that you would honestly swear they were two completely different cars. It's also extremely sensitive to tyres, I mean like you would think you were driving two different cars just from the tyres being worn out. But I still maintain, it's better than the F-type in every single way. Sound, looks, fuel economy, running costs, and honestly it's just a real Jag. In my opinion it's a real shame the way Jag have gone. I have to struggle to recognise any qualities in the F-type that originally attracted me to the XK8. The problems all started when they switched to aluminium designs in 2006, they abandoned all their heritage.

logan86123 I love the f type with all respect I disagree with you .the f type looks so gorgeous, they hired the same guy that designed the Aston Martin to make the f type .my opinion this is the best jaguar ever made and they stuck to their roots with that same similar styling from the 70s drives amazing sounds amazing.i just brought mine two weeks ago i have no regrets

@@JayEmmOnCars You're an idiot - you disagree with about 90% published reviews of this car!

You think an ftype looks like ANYTHING else? and the sedans look NOTHING like the german cookie-cutter models. They ARE different in that they are all gorgeous, something you cant say about almost any audis, a lot of BMWs and some mercedes.

@@Gandalf721 so never driven one, right?

Baffling comment, given that the German car brands are now almost interchangeabley bland.

An excellent car, and superb value for money

You have to look very hard to find an F-Type without a shitty black interior. We finally found a 2018-R Dynamic, blue with white seats!

@@jrgb9945 Some of us like shitty black interiors. They're popular for a reason. Trouble with light colours is they require a lot more maintenance.

I have done my best in recent times to not make things too Lotus focused, although this review called for it. I have been asked many times how the Evora compares to an F-Type. People have come to my channel for Evora stuff so that's generally what they use as a benchmark.

Review the Jag and at the end do a 'So, for those of you who've asked in the past, let me compare this to my Evora...' hearing it all the way through is getting tedious..

Cletus, old sport, forget the F-Type. All I want to know is how the Evora compares with the John Deere lawnmower‼️😎😎😎

Someone get me a John Deere mower and I'll make that video.

Yeah, Cletus, now we're getting somewhere‼️ Calling all sit-down mower men, " Get Cletus a John Deere mower, the man has a video to make‼️".

The Coupe is actually not that much different weight wise, in terms of price the V8 would have also been a fairer comparison but alas we make do with what we have

I think I said quite a few nice things about the car. And Jag were fairly simple with their reasoning for not letting me have one - channel isnt big enough

Fiesty Henry Fiesty..... 🤠

For an alternative take, look at my F Type SVR review

You'd be amazed how many people were asking for the comparison - and have a look at the other comments, surprising so many people don't appreciate the fact the Jag is also less comfortable and less practical

Wet, narrow country roads is what I had available. And the motoring press can be wrong.

Lol. Triggered f-type woner ;)

The irony here is the Evora is the much better GT. You should check out my F Type SVR review