Firearms Expert Breaks Down Different Types Of Shotguns

Firearms Expert Breaks Down Different Types Of Shotguns - Loadout Extended Chat

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Gaming shotguns come in many shapes and sizes, from the archetypal Remington 870 seen in the likes of Resident Evil and Battlefield 2042, to the sci-fi styled SPAS-12 that inspired Aliens’ iconic Pulse Rifle. Whether they’re packing double barrels or drum magazines, shotguns have made quite the impact on our pop culture. But how close are the shotguns found in our games to the real-world weapons they represent?
In this episode of Loadout, Dave Jewitt visits the Royal Armouries to talk to Keeper of Firearms & Artillery Jonathan Ferguson about the breadth and variety of shotguns, from the classic double-barrelled flintlocks through to the ridiculous revolving Striker shotgun.
You can check out more episodes of Loadout right here. - • How Games Are Lying To...
You can check out our Firearms Expert Reacts series here. - • Firearms Expert Reacts...
If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
If you would like to support the Royal Armouries, you can make a charitable donation to the museum here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...

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@daffodyl_n 2 жыл бұрын

i need it to be very clear to you guys - I don’t watch these videos primarily for the guns. i can find gun content literally anywhere. i am here for Johnathan. do not lose him

@JorisKoolen 2 жыл бұрын

👆

@satitlertritsumpun8930 2 жыл бұрын

I second that statement.

@jpramirez4218 2 жыл бұрын

I approve this message

@bellystraw 2 жыл бұрын

True that

@nigthfox32 2 жыл бұрын

Yes 100% YES YES YES

@Tjthemedic 2 жыл бұрын

It's cute how nervous Dave seems around Jonathan. Must be intimidating!

@zoid_on_youtube 2 жыл бұрын

talking about guns in the presence of Johnathan is like talking about food in the presence of Gordon Ramsey, except Johnathan will annihilate you with subtly snide remarks instead of angry yelling.

@FabianMacGintyONeill 2 жыл бұрын

I used to be a presenter on community TV stations (very small scale compared to this of course) and can testify from personal experience that handling antique objects around curators is a uniquely terrifying experience!

@jic1 2 жыл бұрын

I think he's worried that he's going to mishandle one of the guns in front of Jonathan, and get a safety lecture.

@IrregularDave 2 жыл бұрын

@@FabianMacGintyONeill hahah it’s very much this! JF and I get on rather well, and I’m confident in my handling of firearms safely. But being on camera handling the objects, I do have to be very gentle with things. Both because I don’t want to break, mark or tarnish something that may be rare (especially in front of JF) but also so big clangs and crashes don’t get picked up through the mic on my chest.

@IrregularDave 2 жыл бұрын

You think I’m cute!? 🥺 It’s mostly a mixture of not being on camera for a good while and the fear of breaking something though haha

@Chyrosran22 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer this Loadout episode about shotguns over the previous one tbh. I like this format better. Cool stuff, guys!

@toufusoup 2 жыл бұрын

Fancy seeing you here, angry keyboard Dutchman.

@BattleManiac7 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, frag rounds USAS-12, still the most ridiculously OP thing in an FPS I've ever experienced. Good to know John too remembers that ridiculous episode of BF history.

@MrGrimsmith 2 жыл бұрын

AA12 with Frag-12 is more terrifying IMO, same thing just fully automatic. At least no-one's done fully customisable mag loadings yet. I can just imagine dragonsbreath, frag-12, 00 buck and slug in sequence in a 20 or 32 round drum - blinded, exploded, pummeled and pierced, then the cycle starts again...

@Jeragon186 2 жыл бұрын

Nd in bf4, there are weaklings who use the Saiga 12 with frags. Absolutely despicable beings.

@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын

To note one example where it is notably used AGAINST the player to high effect is in Telltale Batman series where Harvey Dent basically obliterates Wayne mention with it and Batman almost loses his leg at the knee level despite the comic book properties of Batsuit...

@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын

*mansion. I'm just done with Google keyboard at this point. It doesn't correct actual mistakes, but it sure does love replacing words and context:(

@BattleManiac7 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGrimsmith BF3's USAS was select fire with full and semi-auto

@michaelnorkus5592 2 жыл бұрын

In 007 Nightfire, you can actually toggle the SPAS 12 between pump and semi. Attention to detail in that game.

@ThePocketier 2 жыл бұрын

That game was so good! I miss good Bond games

@CalamityCain 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThePocketier Aren't IOI (the Hitman guys) working on a Bond game? That should be good. Especially if they take their time to improve shooting mechanics. But they should easily craft awesome levels, as always

@somerandomgamer8504 2 жыл бұрын

@@CalamityCain With their recent track record of games basically being expansions of the last, I feel like it'll just be Hitman reskinned

@yuriteixeira5816 2 жыл бұрын

Even though bf 2042 is a joke, you can there too

@CalamityCain 2 жыл бұрын

@@somerandomgamer8504 Yeah, that'd be the worst case scenario and *still* would make for a propably decent game. I hope it's a little less sandboxy (wouldn't be the right decision for Bond, imho) and more story focused 👍

@Harkness197 2 жыл бұрын

"it's not as easy as games make it out to be" followed by Jonathan's stare at him was amazing!

@coltenbrown 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see a video on handguns. Or a video on bolt action rifles mostly the mosin nagant. My dad had that rifle as a hunting rifle for deer and just a right shot makes the difference.

@MrPh30 2 жыл бұрын

C&Rsenal, USOG, have many good ones, CR about ex mil ones, USog have for alot of everything, and RifleChair also is good bolt rifle channel.

@TheMaxWhoKnewTooMuch 2 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons is pretty good in that regard.

@leggo0116 2 жыл бұрын

Bolt actions yesss

@shaneblair-hicks4975 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoy the series but the lighting is too dark. Black weapons disappear when held up against the background.

@ARZZiO 2 жыл бұрын

I like how Gamespot is slowly becoming a gun channel

@griz312 2 жыл бұрын

You’re right lol, most videos have a decent 50k viewership. But when they involve firearms they get over 200k.

@bombomos 2 жыл бұрын

Gubspot

@keynanmartinez 2 жыл бұрын

You need to learn your guns before playing the game with those weapons.

@WayStedYou 2 жыл бұрын

@@griz312 when they involve Johnathan *

@Treblaine Жыл бұрын

@@bombomos Gub?

@whyjnot420 2 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain the not-a-SPAS-12 in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (they changed the names of all the guns, but kept them true to form aside from that) had the ability to switch between pump action and semi-auto. Been a long time since I played that game, but it treated its realworld elements with more respect than ye olde standard fps games which focus more on action. edit: checked a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. wiki and confirmed that it does this, also got reminded that you can put multiple types of ammo simultaneously (combo of slugs, shot & darts, say 4-2-2 as an example, given the available ammo in the game) and they renamed it "SPSA-14"

@dude11579 2 жыл бұрын

I would be intrigued to see a video about the history of the ergonomics and usability improvements (and sometimes downfalls) of semi-automatic handguns. Kind of the throughline of how things went from something like the C96 to something like a 92fs, with some of the major advancements and some of the faulty detour dead-ends along the way.

@ghost-jesus 2 жыл бұрын

Funny thing with the c96 is that it was designed to be able to take a stock, which in modern times would effectively make it a pdw or an SMG if you have a rare select-fire version or even better the hyper-rare select-fire Shanxi-45 variant, on the hyper advanced end check out the new Laugo Alien, which is designed specifically for holo/red dot sights and has a stationary top-strap and a gas system that uses gas pressure to delay the blowback or the CZ52 roller locked pistol.

@estaticethan1752 2 жыл бұрын

I love your Loadout series, especially the Firearms expert. Man, I love Johnathan in these videos!

@RangerHouston 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan’s excitement and giddiness when explaining guns is 💯

@heshamshrifa5839 2 жыл бұрын

Great series Dave, keep up the great work! Your videos are literally the only ones I watch from the Gamespot channel. Love that we're getting so see more of you, can't wait for the next episode. I agree that the overall blackness of the room makes seeing the gun's details a lot harder, but that shouldn't be too hard of a fix.

@lukalaa1764 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact about the spas-12 in H3VR! It has both pump and semi, but to switch between them is somewhat complicated

@joaquinvelasquez6252 2 жыл бұрын

One Special thing about Jon is that he knows video games. And what I mean is not just what the name and has played it before, but how developers change IRL to fiction to make the game more interesting to its player base.

@Darkraisvictim 2 жыл бұрын

The Striker is definitely a case of asking "Can we make it work" vs. "Should we make it work"

@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын

Shotguns are multitools of firearms. Just like howitzers are multitools of artillery and grenade launchers are the same for crew served/squad based firepower. All share high caliber, low velocity characteristic with IMMENSELY wide spectre of available payloads for different tasks many of which their contemporaries cannot cover. And videogames usually let it all down the drain instead. Who needs variable ammo choices, am I right? Right? Right... P.S.: I kind of forgot mortars in this list too.

@stevenbobbybills 2 жыл бұрын

Games have slowly implemented systems where most shotguns in games can take standard buckshot, slugs, probably incendiary and maybe flechettes, but they're still not quite on the level they should be yet. Amusingly, Red Dead Redemption 2 only has four ammo types for the shotguns, considering that there's five for the various rifles and sidearms, and six for the bows.

@davidschneider9145 2 жыл бұрын

Tobe fair, you wouldn’t be using less than lethal ammo on the battlefield

@TheArklyte 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidschneider9145 /looks at leaflet shells and bombs and at military use of tear gas/ Yeah, that would be absolutely ridiculous. Who would even do that?

@MetalGamer666 2 жыл бұрын

Escape from Tarkov really has a lot of ammo types for every weapon type, including shotguns.

@blurview6904 2 жыл бұрын

good to see you guys bring back the loadout series.

@lucienmaranber 2 жыл бұрын

loving this series so far. I'm hoping to see one on revolver soon

@QuintusAntonious 2 жыл бұрын

I'd really like to see a video collaboration between Jonathan and Ian from Forgotten Weapons. I know they are friends, Ian has featured weapons from the Royal Armouries, and IGN has had Ian do a few videos like this. I'd love a fireside chat like this format with the two of them.

@DJHalfbarr 2 жыл бұрын

They have done a few together already, mainly during the Patreon push for John's book, that is published by Ian's publishing company...all those vids from the Royal Armouries on Forgotten Weapons would have had John on the other side of the camera - point being, like a bunch of car youtubers I watch discovered, constant collaboration actually inhibits growth for one or more of the creators (they become a sidekick) - note how John has bloomed without Ian, and the rare, future collabs will be better for it!

@mnsega 2 жыл бұрын

I love the master details explained. Keep it going

@matthewkehoe4015 2 жыл бұрын

Love this format, great video

@kitsune_jones 2 жыл бұрын

Super excited for more content with Jonathan but I do feel like the format could be a bit different. I think it'd be better if Jonathan was allowed to take the reins and determine the "flow" of the episode and explain the guns in detail while Dave inquires more about the guns and ties them into the video game side of things. I think that would let you pack more information into the videos and still be very entertaining. Again, really excited to see more of these. Keep up the brilliant work, Gamespot.

@mamit3760 2 жыл бұрын

On one hand you can see that Dave is shy around Jonathan, maybe it is because of that

@ZygfrydQ 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this episode so much, now I HAVE to subscribe ;)

@Wladislav 2 жыл бұрын

I like that these are getting more elaborate.

@EX7RUD1CON 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a Remington 870 tactical, mines got an adjustable stock and a pistol grip pump, really really fun to shoot and it’s cool to have something I’ve used a lot in games

@Penigale 2 жыл бұрын

Nice, would love a pump action in my country but no…

@AR15andGOD Жыл бұрын

@@Penigale what the heck kind of country bans a pump action shotgun?

@christophermichaels1494 2 жыл бұрын

Really interesting this series enjoyed it

@cocod7272 2 жыл бұрын

love the ongoing work with the royal amouries

@richardmazkin9994 2 жыл бұрын

I can't help but wonder if the Striker's clockwork mag issues could be resolved with a couple electric motors and a battery housed inside the stock. Electronically automating the drum and ejection system should improve it's function, and make it easier to reload than a Colt Single-Action Army

@peterdinklage1912 2 жыл бұрын

There's a gun I really want to see on the show, a Russian bullpup called the Groza! It's featured in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series and I just think its such a cool weapon. Would really love to hear what Jonathan has to say about it.

@jtukko 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! This is a cool way to educate gamers about their firearms for sure

@Upsideround 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you gamespot. we told you we want more Johnathan and you delivered. I could watch this for hours.

@isaacibbotson4632 2 жыл бұрын

It's worth pointing out that there is so much variation between different shotgun loads that pump really is the only style of shotgun that I've had reliable success with. That's what makes dual mode(in my mind) the best option when choosing the shotgun

@davidschneider9145 2 жыл бұрын

Sad breech loader noises

@isaacibbotson4632 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidschneider9145 yeah breach loaders are pretty cool but for what I do they just can't hold enough

@0dayExploit 2 жыл бұрын

Dual mode is really a compromise where you end up with a gun that’s not as good as a normal pump action when in pump mode, or not as good as a normal semi-auto when in semi mode. Modern semi-auto shotguns are good. You can also do 80% as well with a good pump action. I have a SPAS-12. The SPAS-12 and the Benelli M3 are the two most well known dual mode shotguns. I cannot personally attest to the M3’s reliability and quality, but I’m sure it’s good, but I’d rather have an M4. The SPAS-12 is notoriously finicky and heavy. While I’ve had good luck with mine, I’d not take it into a serious situation

@polkka7797 2 жыл бұрын

When Jonathon bangs on about semis auto being the future over pump, I’m pretty sure he means in a future military setting. Not civilian firearms, militaries can issues mostly uniform loads for their shotguns that will work the same amount as a rifle round. Where’s pump action is useful when you don’t have a large military industrial complex behind you

@blueboy1958 2 жыл бұрын

Love how careful and gentle they are with the guns. Handling them as if they're made of thin glass

@lego007guym8 2 жыл бұрын

Well, they are museum pieces. At the same time, it's also basic fire arm safety. Always treat the gun like it's fully loaded with a round in the chamber

@TotallyNotAFox 2 жыл бұрын

The first time I saw a Striker in a videogame was in Stalker: Call of Pripyat

@XxeffinbackStabrxX 2 жыл бұрын

I own 2 R870. One is for hunting the other is just a sporting/home defense one. And I honestly think they are just as reliable if not more reliable as an AK-47.

@stevenbobbybills 2 жыл бұрын

The manual operation means that the vast majority of errors are going to be due to user error, unlike any reciprocating system that adds additional factors. Of course, with suitable training, cleaning and ammunition, almost all factors can be eliminated or minimised for both.

@kommanderketamine8172 2 жыл бұрын

Happy New Years!

@Davideo523 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, would love a video on Assault Carbines

@Madjo-qj2ge 2 жыл бұрын

Double barrel and Pump Action is my Favorite

@stevenbobbybills 2 жыл бұрын

It's really funny to me that they showed footage of Hot Dogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades whilst talking about how the SPAS-12 is usually either pump or semi in games, but not both, when H3VR is one of the few games that DOES allow both operation methods. Also, a minor gaffe, but the presenter mentions Terminator 2 whilst discussing the SPAS-12, when the shotgun's iconic Terminator appearance is during the (comedically simplified) gun store scene and the following police station assault in The Terminator, with the T2 pick of course being the Winchester 1887.

@trevorboheler6507 2 жыл бұрын

I think another few great examples are the AA-12 with drum mag, and the venerable Saiga 12

@SWATforce1 Жыл бұрын

I’d have been intrigued to see the SPAS-15 and Neostead analysed in this video.

@marknycz4833 2 жыл бұрын

you guys should add a boom light above the table ;) and maybe not have a black table cloth. its harder to see with so much black :/

@CAARaeed 2 жыл бұрын

More of this, please

@DudeGuyBroGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Nice to see John in a more quality video than a ZOOM call lol

@brownmsoe Жыл бұрын

I would like to note that the SPAS-12 that they display has the original defective safety. There was a recall back in the 1980s for all owners to visit any gun smith and Franchi would pay for trigger group and safety mechanism to be replace with a cross bolt design. Original safety, if a shell was chambered, was cycled from safe-to-fire or fire-to-safe would eventually cause the gun to fire. Similar to the Remington 700 rifle issue.

@DarksideZurg 2 жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays everyone !

@unifiedhorizons2663 2 жыл бұрын

The striker starting to sound a like hazard of accidental discharge waiting to happen

@sordschie3944 2 жыл бұрын

So nice, i love dem boomstikkz

@Chris-ok4zo 2 жыл бұрын

Thought maybe I'd get to see some more oddballs, like the revolving magazine of the M1216.

@trblemayker5157 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see his reaction to the Borderlands 3 guns

@RandomlySet Жыл бұрын

I've fired that 870 a few times in Las Vegas.... Nice shotgun

@RubyMikotoGaming 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see more older type of gun to be shown off here, just a little sneak peak at their collection. like spencer shotgun, luger maybe some wacky gun they have on the collection, to get the gun more recognition. Loadout idea RPG I want to see the table handle it.

@BBrunswicker 2 жыл бұрын

Interestingly H3vr is one of the only games to get the low pressure shell detail right! Means that the SPAS actually has its function for firing shells that aren't full power.

@LOBricksAndSecrets 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps grabbing one of Jonathan's coworkers at the museum to talk about swords and other such melee weapons?

@tombombadil9338 2 жыл бұрын

The Striker's upgraded version is still used today by various armed forces. The new version, The Protecta, fixed a lot of these issues.

@CturiX.IREALLY 2 жыл бұрын

was this a reupload? i could have sworn i watched this last week or two

@gameragodzilla 2 жыл бұрын

I have a SPAS-12 myself and I love that shotgun.

@Derp12 2 жыл бұрын

When did you buy it and how much did it cost?

@gameragodzilla 2 жыл бұрын

@@Derp12 I bought it last year for $3000. Very expensive collector’s item.

@ThunderBuddy 2 жыл бұрын

Seeing as Jonathan has written a book about how about an episode on bull pup rifles?

@ThisGuyAd. 2 жыл бұрын

That Daewoo has always given me butterflies. It looks like it was designed for Robocop 😎

@SweHall 2 жыл бұрын

Would have liked to see the Saiga 12.

@RealZefrety67 Жыл бұрын

seeing them handle vintage weaponry with gloves heals my broken small heart just a bit.

@stevemc6010 2 жыл бұрын

2:45 FYI, with a bead only shotgun sight you should aim with both eyes open. Helps particularly with clays and birds.

@Penigale 2 жыл бұрын

Using both eyes is generally a good way to go with most handguns, shotguns (not with slugs) and any red dot sights mounted. Gives a larger field of view as long as you can get used to seeing 2 rear sights

@the_ur3an_myth 2 жыл бұрын

Please do a Loadout video on Anti-tank rifles

@gabrielgb803 2 жыл бұрын

I really like John not for the guns but for history behind it

@parallel-knight 2 жыл бұрын

Cool stuff but would like to see a slightly better lighting system

@benzzodude 2 жыл бұрын

“THAT is Jonathan Ferguson” Doesn’t sound right

@dragonstormdipro1013 2 жыл бұрын

Armsel Striker is a horrible gun in real life. Using the trigger for any function than shooting is a terrifying concept.

@nipplecream3099 2 жыл бұрын

double action

@sotiriospeithis6659 2 жыл бұрын

Christmas gifts keep on coming

@mamit3760 2 жыл бұрын

Dave, don't be so shy :3 Jonathan ain't gonna bite, he might be good in firearms, but he sounds and looks like a super chill dude. JONATHAN IS AWESOME, AND THIS SERIES HAS GREAT POTENTIAL

@colbemugen9932 2 жыл бұрын

WE NEED MORE JOHN PLEASEE

@breadymold3206 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan-chan is what I'm here for

@walldoby Ай бұрын

Have you guys ever covered the AA-12 of COD MW2 fame? Would be interesting to hear Jonathan’s thoughts

@crusaderone1701 2 жыл бұрын

That USAS 12 is beautiful. Because of that I got a AR-12.

@korno96 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan is literally my favorite human.

@megaben99 Жыл бұрын

Pump action shotguns are my favorite. :)

@Impirator 2 жыл бұрын

To be honest the first time I heard about the USAS-12 was from Stargate SG1.

@LipColt 2 жыл бұрын

Please guys, do a video on Warface weapons. It's class based, and the Medic has plenty of weird shotguns, some are AR-based semi-autos, one looks like an FN F2000, there are two rotating tube semi-autos and a triple barrel break action shotgun.

@Mustafa_9628 2 жыл бұрын

My fav type of weaponry

@humanthefinite8304 2 жыл бұрын

Is this a re upload? I could have sworn i watched this a week ago

@juandemarko8348 6 ай бұрын

Johnathan Ferguson is a true treasure

@ARAFELI 2 жыл бұрын

didn't they publish it before?

@aldenret 2 жыл бұрын

Wait, i think i've seen this episode before. Is this a reupload?

@SachoManMandyRavage 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan forgot to mention that later strikers and most game depictions have an automatic gas ejection system for the shells

@cedricbaccay633 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to see him play games

@bensayeed953 Жыл бұрын

Nice 1 dave

@redrunner3649 2 жыл бұрын

It's a wonder why the SAPS' mode of operation hasn't been implemented in newer shotguns, bot real or fictional.

@Madjo-qj2ge 2 жыл бұрын

Complexity, which means more expensive

@trblemayker5157 2 жыл бұрын

@Brupcat Yeah like how the G11 never caught on. Imagine field stripping, cleaning or clearing a jam with that under stress.

@BattleManiac7 2 жыл бұрын

@@trblemayker5157 I remember Gun Jesus taking one apart. Once you get to the mechanism, that's it for a soldier, you'd need an armory or workshop. The thing is built like a mechanical watch. If something goes wrong in that part of the gun, better hope another weapon is nearby or you or your buddies have a pistol.

@Madjo-qj2ge 2 жыл бұрын

@Brupcat hence why Double barrel and Pump Action and sometimes Lever Action is used on post appocalypse

@redrunner3649 2 жыл бұрын

@@Madjo-qj2ge I mean in the case for lets say Battlefield 2042, There could have been a select fire shotgun called the Spas 24 for example. It just seems like a hotbed for some cool guns in game. As far as real life goes you're 100% right.

@morethanjustasloth5528 2 жыл бұрын

Mad respect to Gamespot for treating these the weapons from these collections with respect and using good gun safety.

@Solo76239 2 жыл бұрын

Hey is this a re upload? I felt Like i seen this before 🤔

@korno96 2 жыл бұрын

Jonathan is literally my favorite human

@ringoreddo308 2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't this already uploaded?

@stopka5848 2 жыл бұрын

Best gift on Stephen's day

@reginaldsafety6090 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, Dave holds that double barrel shotgun like I would hold a baby.

@gemmabutterworth1208 2 жыл бұрын

I really want him to either right a book or do a video like this on anti material rifles from 20th and 21st century

@honzabalak3462 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video.

@Scav8835 2 жыл бұрын

To me, it's really weird how many if not all fps games, that include the SPAS-12, gets it's depiction wrong, mainly due to how it actually has both a pump and semi mode, and games often choose either for it to be semi or pump and not both. The gun also has a loading door to the magazine tube, but games ignore that, and the player just shoves in shells, like it's any other shotgun.

@user-yy7tw9hv9n 2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't arma get it right?

@bladypiter 2 жыл бұрын

but in most games you don't run ammo that would require using pump-action on spas, so why bother?

@Mr.deacle 2 жыл бұрын

Similar for the FAMAS, it's usually burst only or auto only, but almost never both. I exclude semi-auto because that option's just a blanket decision for the developers to make for all of their rifles.

@Scav8835 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-yy7tw9hv9n I haven't checked, many of the games that I've seen get it wrong.

@anglerfishtanking 2 жыл бұрын

I think 007 The World is Not Enough or maybe it was Nightfire that included both fire modes for the SPAS