Firewood Processor Pays for Itself in 100 Hours! -E47

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Oak Mountain Acotts

Oak Mountain Acotts

3 жыл бұрын

Jason is making firewood with the Hakki Pilke Raven 33 firewood processor. He is using the Kubota B2601 tractor with the Kranman Hydraulic Trailer to feed the processor while the bucket on the Komatsu WB150ps is used to take the firewood away.
Jason runs through some calculations to highlight how the simple payback on the machine is only 100 hours!
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@JS-nr9wp
@JS-nr9wp 2 жыл бұрын
Best one I have ever seen Simple, and very functional. Goid job!!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
It works pretty well. The commercial models have more bells and whistles. A nice upgrade for my machine would be the next model feed table. It holds more wood and has a chain feed system. Thanks for watching!
@nelsonridgefarm
@nelsonridgefarm 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, loved seeing your process and work flow. Very nice, thanks so much! -Brad
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the note and for supporting our channel!
@knottwworking
@knottwworking 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, full of information. Thanks Jason
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your feedback and keep it coming! Jason
@paralifetv-youreverydaywhe8314
@paralifetv-youreverydaywhe8314 3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty slick operation you have on the go. Another great video. Very interesting on the business side of things.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching Shane!
@bridiecormican9352
@bridiecormican9352 3 жыл бұрын
Great video a very slick operation.Mind your back and you can work into your senior years.Work smarter not harder!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
We agree. I used to cut up my firewood with a chainsaw and remember my back only being able to take the work for so long. Thanks for watching!
@thelogfather5002
@thelogfather5002 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Jason, especially the intro and outro music! That’s about right, I can make a cord in about an hour and 45 minutes with a helper. I have a decent tractor with a grapple that helps load the live feed table, the expense is real, but so is the pay off. And compared to my day job, it’s really refreshingly simple work. Keep up the videos!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback Jeff. Appreciate your support with the channel!
@daleroley5185
@daleroley5185 Жыл бұрын
Good Job!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching our videos!
@kellydrolet4740
@kellydrolet4740 2 жыл бұрын
Fairly simple breakdown and YES there is money in firewood. There are some basic accounting matrix spreadsheets around that allow for adding in capital costs, insurance, labor, fuel etc. that will provide a better projection. Especially if you are looking for financing. I was in the campground/firewood business for about 12 years as a side business to my professional forestry job. Semi retired now but still dabble in it. Today we are producing dry tree length firewood at the cut block (salvaged during conifer logging) and selling it to the customer for $1100/load (18 - 20 cords) plus trucking and we cannot keep up. With box stores selling little bundles or bags at $10 we can see where this is going. The key is finding inexpensive sources, minimize handling and marketing either locally, to federal or provincial parks and gas stations. Keep up the great work - nice to see!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kelly, thanks for the feedback! There are a lot of costs to be considered for sure. We have a decent sized woodlot and enjoy spending time in the woods so we thought we would invest in the equipment to make the work more efficient. If we lived close to a major city center we would do better on pricing. The demand is relatively low here for the value added specialty wood. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. We appreciate it!
@anssikukkonen768
@anssikukkonen768 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see finnish Hakki in action! It is made in Finland, just 100 miles from my hometown😄👍 You have also swedish crane, that's awesome😄👌
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent engineering design and reliability! Well worth the money… thanks for watching!
@InTheWoodyard
@InTheWoodyard 3 жыл бұрын
Nice set up you have there!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We are not producing the volume that you are though. We’re just playing!
@SouthWestIron
@SouthWestIron 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice piece of equipment. Never even knew they existed.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You can get some nicer ones than this with more options that will handle larger diameter wood but of course, they are more money. Thanks for watching, Jason.
@daniellundberg7142
@daniellundberg7142 3 жыл бұрын
Another very nice video. I like to follow you since I have a setup like you but a little smaller. I like your calculations, it's true, pay back time is pretty short.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Lots of other costs involved but there is a little money to be made. Have a good weekend!
@localcrew
@localcrew 2 жыл бұрын
That looks like the ideal processor for small timber. I especially like the angled feed deck that eliminates the need for feed chains. You’re right about the big stuff though. Too much trouble. Maybe just split that separately and keep the processor humming with the smaller stems. Just subscribed!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing and welcome to our channel! The processor is working well for us on our Woodlot. I am very happy with it and we’ve had it for 3 seasons now. I think it’s a keeper!
@flatlinesup
@flatlinesup 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Thanks for sharing. Subscribed
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming along with us. Appreciate the support!
@Ants_Pants
@Ants_Pants 2 жыл бұрын
The log father brought me here. Glad that he did such a nice channel.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Oak Mountain. Thanks for stopping by!
@diyVT
@diyVT 2 жыл бұрын
That's a nice little processor. My dad and I run a big Multi-Tek and do around 300 cords a year. We buy most of our logs and we just about double the price of the wood when it's split and delivered. So we pay around $120 a cord for log truck loads of wood and sell the wood for $240 a cord. There's certainly money to be made selling firewood and a processor is really the way to go if you want efficiency.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Semi tree length is running $150 to $180 per cord here and I need to back out HST (sales tax) on the sale price of $250 to $280. Not much left on the table with raw material costs that high! Thanks for watching!
@claudelovell4235
@claudelovell4235 Жыл бұрын
Good vid
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
Thanks Claude!
@marksparkplug7758
@marksparkplug7758 3 жыл бұрын
Very doable Jason.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for watching the video!
@michaelcochrane5543
@michaelcochrane5543 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same processor Works great !!!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Any maintenance issues yet? How many cords have you put through it?
@michaelcochrane5543
@michaelcochrane5543 2 жыл бұрын
Only problem I had was running in colder weather keep debris clean below ram because it will freeze in the little channel below .I have done about 100 cord in 2 years other than that no problems also would like to share some pics with you I have similar set up
@rodneysweetnam8653
@rodneysweetnam8653 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I know the main distributor of Hakki Pilke products for the entire British Isles as I used to split up to 150 cords a year of heavier logs for him using saws and a vertical splitter. The Hakki Pilke range is well designed, nicely made, financially efficient and reliable. They are a sister company to Japa, which my mate Joe in Ohio Wood Burners uses. Kindest Regards from the Emerald Isle.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the note from the Emerald Isle! It is interesting to hear that Japa and Hakki are linked as I can see the design similarities. Do you know which was developed first and if the strategy is to cater to different markets? Thanks for watching, Jason.
@rodneysweetnam8653
@rodneysweetnam8653 2 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts Jason- Big Rodders again. As I understand it, Hakki Pilke was set up in 1983 and now employs 70 people. Japa was set up in 1977 and now employs 30 people. Palex was set up 60 years ago and now employs 70 people. Over the years these companies were acquired by Terra Patris, who owns many diverse companies. In Oct 2020, Terra Patris established TP Silva Ltd as a separate holding company for these 3 firewood companies to optimise the synergies of the combined businesses. Hakki Pilke would be the major player in The British Isles but the 3 companies each export to circa 35 countries worldwide.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting... a great way to increase market share while offering diversity in the product range for consumers. Thanks for the added information, much appreciated!
@rodneysweetnam8653
@rodneysweetnam8653 2 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts Rodders yet again! My chum is Michael Large Tree Services, Belfast. Google his website if you like looking at fancy equipment. I use an Italian Thor 8.5 ton electric splitter, which has worked seamlessly for 15 years, which Michael is also agent for.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodneysweetnam8653 excellent, I’m going to take a look. I’m researching pricing and availability of a large tractor with a forestry harvester on the back. I see they are prevalent in Europe but not used extensively in Canada yet. I really feel this is the type of harvester I need to grow my business!
@Alan_Hans__
@Alan_Hans__ 3 жыл бұрын
A couple bits of constructive criticism. Firstly don't have your loader bucket up so close to the end of the conveyor. You are better off having a few blocks drop on the ground rather than have the blocks build up to the conveyor and potentially tear off the cleats and/or rip the belt. The other tip is that at the last cut of the log don't do another split cycle to clear the splitter but instead wait until you've fed the next log into place and do it as part of the cut and split cycle for the next piece. The extra few seconds saving per log could get you down to a simple payback time of 99 hours ;) Great video.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
It is funny you say that, when I watched the video I saw that I should feed my next log as soon as it will fit on the conveyor! Going to try this the next time I start up! Thanks for watching!
@freeforester1717
@freeforester1717 11 ай бұрын
A sheet of tarpaulin on the ground before first cutting session would facilitate clearing up the sawdust. An option for oversized logs that slip through would be a bucking table with capacity for 3-4 logs at cutting height in front of the feed-in table, to drop them onto and be out of the production line proper - you can keep the flow going that way and then deal with the bigger logs at one go, and drop the cut blocks into the processor splitter, assuming the grain is straight. Keep it up off the ground and on an overflow table to save your back👍🏻 Greetings from a Palax Combi MII user in Scotland 🥃
@lawrencecordoni9460
@lawrencecordoni9460 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say good video's. Just a question is the log stop on your processor installed backwards. I would think the big flat spot is the stop for the log not the square tubing.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lawrence, thanks for the video feedback. You may be onto something there… I’m going to check it out tonight before I start processing. Thanks!
@GPOutdoors
@GPOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Good day Jason. Some interesting thoughts and perspectives. With a good, or growing, number of commitments/contracts, sounds like you have, or can have , a reasonable payback period on all the equipment capital invested, especially given that the land and resources are yours and you have no COGS on the cost of the wood itself (notwithstanding land/property tax). Good stuff - thanks for sharing. How do you like the wood processor?
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi GP, thanks for the comment. Obviously lots of other costs associated with the operation but this has been our vision for the property when we purchased it in 1996. If we are careful and look after the equipment, we should be able to have a nice income stream in our retirement. The processor works very well; I have put around 100 cords through it so far with no issues. I need to get it under cover though! I was watching you cut up the chainsaw boots today; I haven't been able to find a comfortable safety boot yet but you have given me some ideas!
@brianolson1211
@brianolson1211 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you never took into account was getting the trees out of the bush. expenses there also have to be included to give you your final total.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, you are correct. Rest assured I have run the numbers on all of my expenses and calculated my profit margin. I don't think any one person will get rich making firewood but for us, there is a little money left on the table after expenses. Thanks for watching!
@waynejohnson9855
@waynejohnson9855 2 жыл бұрын
I look through the comments and all the different comments of how to be more productive and make more money but not everyone has the same access to wood and prices for buying and selling are different. I do not own any land but have been able to cut behind loggers and clean up storm damage. So for me I deal with what is left or damaged and currently I am cutting trees that are 20 plus inches in diameter there are a lot of smaller trees also but just as many that are big. Everything I do is cut with a saw and split by hand I try to cut split haul and stack the same day as I can save some time that way and have the wood out of the woods before the frost goes out. I did a load the other day that was 1cord and another 2/3 of a cord and cut split hauled and stacked I had 5 hours in that load. Would love a processor but it’s not practical for me.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Wayne, I agree that the processors are not for everyone. Even if a processor is suitable for your operation, you need to spend some time to match the right machine up for the size of the wood you handle the most, etc. This one is working out pretty well for us. It matches our wood size on our lot perfectly and helps me keep my productivity up. Thanks for watching!
@nebraskawoodstr
@nebraskawoodstr 2 жыл бұрын
Just found you and subbed. Love the firewood community. Just started my channel at first of the year. Look forward to checking out your channel. Nebraska WoodSTR
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by! I’ll drop by your channel when I get a few minutes to look around. Dealing with a 10” snow storm clean up today!
@peternelly3879
@peternelly3879 Жыл бұрын
It does a great job of singling out the sawdust. Not a speck goes up that conveyor belt.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
It sure does. The wood is quite clean right off the chute. We dump and pile every cord here in the yard so the customer doesn’t see any debris when delivered.
@bwillan
@bwillan 3 жыл бұрын
You certainly have a great setup there and took careful consideration to not handling the firewood too many times between cutting, splitting and stacking. As for you preferred size of logs, just be aware that you want to run as big as log as possible through your processor. It is a simple case of geometry. The volume of cylinder (ideal log) is proportional to its radius squared. So going from 5" diameter logs to 10" diameter logs will increase your volume output by a factor of 4.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Great point and understood. This business all comes back to the availability of quality raw materials. I tend to leave a lot of those perfect trees in the woods so the boys have a nice woodlot some day! Love to run big, straight trees through the processor but I can’t leave the other stuff behind! Thanks for watching our channel. Hope you stop by again! Take care, Jason.
@AndreasvonT
@AndreasvonT 2 жыл бұрын
Takes me 5 hours per cord. Processing is the easiest part of the operation. lol Nice machine and setup!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
I think that is a fair estimate from the forest to the out conveyor of the processor. I take my time in the woods felling and figure a couple of hours for a Kranman timber trailer load which is half a cord. Thanks for stopping by! Jason
@kevinholbrook7174
@kevinholbrook7174 3 жыл бұрын
You have a great videos of making firewood for a one man operation! I even like the choice of music to go along with your videos and I would like to know the artist and the name of the song!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Haugen - Backwoods BBQ. This is music supplied by KZfaq for video use; you can probably find him online as well though. Thanks for the feedback on our operation and the channel. Thanks for watching!
@yvesjolicoeur747
@yvesjolicoeur747 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jason, Unrelated to this video but I have question about hemlock. We don't have as many around here as you have but managed to get a few log for the first time. Is it true that if used for dimensional lumber(2x6, 2x8) that once dry it is very difficult to drive a nail though it? thanks
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 9 ай бұрын
Hi Yves, that is what everyone says here. When we use it, we build green for that reason so a I have no first hand experience building with dry hemlock. The other thing I have heard is that dry hemlock will splinter when nailing or spiking. Hope this helps!
@yvesjolicoeur747
@yvesjolicoeur747 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jason, I'll keep that in mind for our build planning
@GrampiesWorkshop
@GrampiesWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
How's she goin'? That's a great system you have set up. I have to say you're financial numbers are very much simplified, but I agree with you when you say, make the investment now so that it can make nothing but money down the road. There is lots of overhead to run your operation, but if you can get access to good wood and at a good price, I agree, you can make money, but it's hard work and you earn your cash buddy!!! Getting the woodland operations easier will be your next challenge eh!!! Thanks for sharing and take care!!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. We have been working on developing our woodlot since 1996 when we purchased it. The wood is starting to get to a marketable size and it is time for us to get serious about harvesting at a reasonable pace. Woodlot owners have been getting $90 to $100/cord roadside for the last 25 years in NB. With this equipment, I can add value to my hardwood converting to firewood and get $260+/cord. You're right, simple payback calculations are just that; rest assured, we have done the math!
@jmfarrow3936
@jmfarrow3936 Жыл бұрын
I was leaning towards the Japa 315, but this unit is comparable. Too bad it's not available in Alberta.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
Yes, I don’t think Hakki has expanded their distribution very well in North America. They are owned by the same parent company I am told. That is why they are so similar in design. Thanks for watching!
@bentownsend1200
@bentownsend1200 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid question, bush cord or face cord? Thanks
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Benjamen, when I am referring to a cord, I mean 128 cubic feet of wood. The standard would be a pile of wood 4' high, 4' wide and 8' long. For 16" long firewood, a cord would be piled 4' high and 24' long. I think there are 3 face cords in one cord (128 cubic feet)?
@bcallahan3806
@bcallahan3806 2 жыл бұрын
If you can swing the investment. A wise choice. With 500 acres, if it contains a lot of firewood. Any equipment that saves wear and tear on the body is good. A great tool to aid in forest management. And if the market is there make a few bucks. At least enough to cover the cost of machine and operating cost. Smart to season the wood. Fetches better price too. Easy money air drying. With 500 acres and a good long term management plan. The land can be a real long term asset that pays dividends yearly. And will for generations to come. Not just a real estate investment. Don't know about Canada, but in the states it also affords you to put the property into agriculture status. ( a bunch of programs that require homework before entering) but keeps the property tax mongers at bay. Informative video. Best of luck and be safe.👍👍
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the affirmation. We believe this is the right move and if we look after our gear, it will last for a very long time. I hope the boys work and enjoy this Woodlot for many, many years. Thanks for watching!
@robertsparling
@robertsparling 2 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to see the splitting part of the machine.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, we have some other processor videos on our channel and I'm sure I have a few clips of the splitter in them. Take a look if you get a chance and the next time I do a processor video, I'll be sure to add more clips of splitting! Thanks for watching, Jason.
@makincash3337
@makincash3337 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find a grapple like that?
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
Hant’s Equipment in Nova Scotia is the only dealer in Canada that I know of.
@tommyrichmond1293
@tommyrichmond1293 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to know where the trailer can be purchased I live in east tx
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tommy, I have heard from others in the US that there is no distributor their for Kranman. The closest may actually be in Atlantic Canada. Hant's Equipment in Nova Scotia Canada is the dealer I purchased from. You should be able to find them with a Google search. If you can't, let me know and I'll send you a link.
@jimwagner6260
@jimwagner6260 2 жыл бұрын
Wallenstein is a brand that has processor and trailers I think you would like
@chlyon
@chlyon 2 жыл бұрын
I say If you were to buy wood here in New Zealand you could expect to make $100 NZD a cord profit so still only say 10 weeks or so to BE , then theres say another 52 sets of $25K until the units worn out (10 years ) if you wanted to run every week so a mere $1.3 million so130,000 a year . At some point you would buy a easton made 60 c for $250,000 and 5 X your business = $650 K per year
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Great feedback. Our challenge here is a stable wood supply at a fair price. The ceiling for a cord of wood is about $280 so our margins are a little thinner. Nice to hear from someone in New Zealand!
@daveed2812
@daveed2812 2 жыл бұрын
Nice setup however its a bit of a leap to think that a 25k machine would pay for itself in 100h that would be based on profit of 250$ per cord. If you bought cords @ 100$ landed cost right next to your machine plus your labor and expenses of processing it 75$ per bush cord that is 175$ but true volume wont yield one cord in one out more like 1.15-1.25 in to one out so your net cost would be around 200-215$ the 50-35$ net is what you should divide your 25k with to get your hours needed so 500-700hours is more in line with expenses also i did not factor in deliveries or stacking…..firewood is really tight margins.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I agree that there are tight margins if you buy the raw material. In our case, we have a decent sized Woodlot and I wanted to value add my wood instead of selling to the local pulpmill. This is the biggest driver for purchasing the processor! Thanks for stopping by!
@daveed2812
@daveed2812 2 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts even tho i have a woodlot of 300 acres I find the overall work needed to get the wood to my yard there is only about 20$ per cord difference vs buying from loggers and the wood I buy is much nicer overall than what i get off the property. Thanks for sharing your operations
@dapymp17
@dapymp17 2 жыл бұрын
Did you lease or own the 500 acres?
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, we purchased the ground in 1996. Thanks for watching!
@bob_nilsen
@bob_nilsen 2 жыл бұрын
Your equipment is nice, but the set up will normal be loading the table with fork or grabbel. The wood placed ”short” from the tabel. The split wood will go direct into a bag (1,5m3 european). The wood will dry in the bag & you will save a lot of time. And it’s more fun to work with.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, thanks for the note. I don’t disagree with your advice. We use the backhoe to catch the firewood for two reasons. The first, is that we pay our children to pile the wood to build work ethic. The second, is that if we pile the wood the customer is guaranteed to receive a full cord and we also know we are not giving more than a cord away. When the kids are grown and my woodlot has more available hardwood, I may switch to the bags to reduce more manual labour. Thanks for stopping by! Jason.
@scoobygregwrx
@scoobygregwrx 2 жыл бұрын
Would have to charge a huge amount for each load of logs if it pays for itself in 100 hours!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lola, thanks for watching! I think the biggest advantage is how much more firewood you can process annually compared to sawing and splitting by hand… automation certainly reduces the labour required.
@exotictones1054
@exotictones1054 2 жыл бұрын
Wow we only get 190.a cord in mi.delivered usually.15 years ago I only got 120.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! Is that for 128 cubic feet or is that for a face cord? There are 3 face cords in a full 128 cubic feet right? Take care, Jason.
@exotictones1054
@exotictones1054 2 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts yeah about 60.a face cord n they want you to stack it.10.00 for delivery what ever the amount. I used to get 40.a face cord w free delivery.hard to even pay for gas n equipment then.
@johndoe1909
@johndoe1909 Жыл бұрын
an important part of the calculus is wear and tear on your body. a broken body wint help you earning your income. good modern equipment makes you last longer in your profession.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed. It is expensive stuff though!
@johndoe1909
@johndoe1909 Жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts sure. but its way way more exoebsive to end up with a broken back.
@DLSWV
@DLSWV 2 жыл бұрын
👍😉
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by!
@Raul28153
@Raul28153 2 жыл бұрын
looks nice. the logs I get would not fit through that thing
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I bet! We sized this machine for the average trees on our Woodlot. You can get bigger units but they cost more money! Thanks for watching, Jason.
@jimwagner6260
@jimwagner6260 2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at Eastonmade. I think you will like it.
@Raul28153
@Raul28153 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimwagner6260 They make some nice splitters. I'll beat on mine till it breaks. It's a 35 ton swisher and it is slow. When it breaks, I may get an Easton I built a heavy table for it I can mount logs 30" in diameter using my tractor and grapple. Before I got my tractor I was wrestling them up a little ramp of steps.
@optimoprimo132
@optimoprimo132 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the forethought in the early investments you have made to your business.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback and for watching our channel!
@bcpfarmandtrucking6560
@bcpfarmandtrucking6560 2 жыл бұрын
Just getting back into cutting fire wood for myself and maybe the odd neighbor but I have to say that wood processor looks like a great machine...having under a roof would definitely help it last alot longer...really like the minni grapple and trailer 👍👍👍if your interested in farm vids check me out...we are in Saskatchewan Canada
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reaching out! An open building is in the plans for the firewood processor. If things go well, we will stand it up next year. I'll check out your channel this evening! Jason
@nickthrane4940
@nickthrane4940 2 жыл бұрын
How much did you pay for that processor? How much fuel is consumed per cord? How much is your time worth per hour? Depreciation costs? Price per cord? The list goes on...
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it sure does... I guess at the end of the day you need to sharpen your pencil and make sure that for your specific situation, the revenue is higher than the expenses! Take care.
@nickthrane4940
@nickthrane4940 2 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts stating the obvious yes but processors aren't quite as profitable as some may think! 😅
@makincash3337
@makincash3337 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the machine
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts Жыл бұрын
Processor is Hakki Pilke Raven 33 and trailer is Kranman.
@optimoprimo132
@optimoprimo132 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in southern Ontario and sell my wood at 300 a cord. Is it possible for you to sell at 300 where you are in Canada?
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
We are in NB and the highest quality firewood goes for $285/cord. The $300/cord price is elusive for us. We would need to bundle firewood to get our pricing higher. Thanks for watching!
@optimoprimo132
@optimoprimo132 3 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts I understand. The highest price I've seen here in the country is 350 pick up and 375 for delivery. I use to sell my 35 to 40 cord at 250 but then I checked the prices and found I was under selling. Especially since all I have is 150 acres, a bush trailer and 4 wheeler and I split all my wood by hand. (we will not talk about city prices... They are outrageous at 600 a cord) I had guys who have big operations coming with dump trucks to by my wood for 300 a cord when they ran out. The one guy drove from 3 hours away. The reason... He was selling in the city of Toronto for 700 a cord. Crazy eh! What a profit!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable! If we had 2000 acres outside of city limits we would have it made! You are working hard putting that volume up by hand. Hats off to you!
@bradjunes1610
@bradjunes1610 2 жыл бұрын
Lets me know what I don't want to do. Much thanks'
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
We aim to please Brad. You should check out some of our other videos to see if there are any other things you can put on your list!
@mr.redneck2715
@mr.redneck2715 2 жыл бұрын
Make no mistake it takes years to get back this investment!!!!!!
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Don, with all the gear that we have, it will take a while for sure. I look at the Woodlot as the investment though and the equipment is the means to maximize returns. At any rate, we are enjoying ourselves and we’re not going broke so I call that a win. Thanks for watching!
@makmak151515
@makmak151515 2 жыл бұрын
This processor looks to lightly built. Luca
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Luca, we haven’t had any issues with it yet! Is there a certain component you are referring to? Thanks for watching, Jason.
@johanneslaxell6641
@johanneslaxell6641 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends of what the machine is made for. If you want to lift and push a lot, buy a wheel loader and not a tractor. If you process up to 15 inch straight good wood buy a processor, if the wood is bigger and/or othervise difficult use chainsaw and splitter/hydraulic axe. At least here in Northern Europe the common "modus operandi" is that we get the woods with a processor (Nisula, Ponsse et. c) and that define the size allready. We don't have loggers with Stihl Ms881 equipped with huge bars. Sure we have some farmers who make some extra wood working in the forest in the winter, but if we talk abot real work we depend on processors/harvesters. When I look at "Axemen" on tv and look at their rigging and the amount of people I think: Here we use one processor and one harvester sometimes two or three shifts /day, working "indoors". Over there there are people running in the hill with dangerous wires regardless of the weather. But it is good to see different methods in different parts of the world 😋🤗.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
@@johanneslaxell6641 I believe you folks are years ahead of us with forestry methods and equipment. I would love to have a Valtra with a crane and forestry harvester head on it. I believe one of those machines is the next step for us on our woodlot. We could start a small forestry business to help other private woodlot owners maximize returns from their property. Thanks for your thoughts!
@johanneslaxell6641
@johanneslaxell6641 2 жыл бұрын
@@OakMountainAcotts That's ok, it limits you to about max 17". The thing is that it almost has to be a N or T series to be heavy enough, the processor is quite big and then there is the tree. Nisula is building the Valtras and have a processor (425C) wich can be used for loading to. You can get a lot of wood from the forest if the conditions are ok, but it takes some serious money. A Valtra N by Nisula with crane and processor plus a big trailer (14 tons Kesla with hydraulic motors in the hubs) doesn't come cheap 💸💸💸. And as allways: more wood means upgrade of the firewood processor (50-75 000$ depending on feedertable and conveyor) and better storage, bigger trailers and so on 😉👍🏽...
@Freetheworldnow
@Freetheworldnow 3 жыл бұрын
Your math is too simplistic in my opinion. But if this is a full time operation, then the investment is worth it if it is properly sized to your wood supply; of wich you have quite well described.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Pierre, simple payback is a simple calculation performed at a very high level. I agree with you and there are many expenses to be considered against the revenue to ensure the overall operation makes financial sense. For our particular scenario, it does. Thanks for the feedback!
@bobc.7740
@bobc.7740 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but what is going to happen to your business when the green new deal outlaws burning wood. In the south west part of Washington State it is already becoming a thing that is going to become outlawed due to both the smoke and fire danger.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there are risks in any business. There will always be something that the wood is used for, the natural resource is too vast to not be used. If that happens, we will pivot and keep moving forward! Thanks for watching, Jason.
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 2 жыл бұрын
The feed roller speed is way too high. They sill be worn out in no time.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I’ll check it out!
@jameschandler2776
@jameschandler2776 3 жыл бұрын
Those are not trees, those are limbs. Why would you need a hydraulic arm to lift those.
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James, unfortunately I’m working with the trees I have at my disposal on our Woodlot. You are right, I could handle some of this stuff by hand but I also handle some decent logs. My trailer can handle softwood up to 16’ long and about 14” to 16” in diameter. It pays dividends then and helps me keep the wood nice and clean. Thanks for watching, Jason.
@diyVT
@diyVT 2 жыл бұрын
Logs or limbs get a lot bigger when you start trying to lift them high up without a machine.
@jamespartridge8062
@jamespartridge8062 2 жыл бұрын
250 a cord no way I do fire wood to and the most you can get is 120 who pays 250 for a cord the must be on some good drugs
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi James. $250 is actually low. Normally it is selling for $280 to $300. If you have a market for bundle firewood you can turn a cord of wood into $450 to $500. Take care, Jason.
@davidsignor7931
@davidsignor7931 2 жыл бұрын
Go to the city that's cheap
@outdoorswithlarryrobin
@outdoorswithlarryrobin 3 жыл бұрын
Nice setup, same here with my Halverson 120, 8”-12” straight wood is money in the bank, curious where your from, the processor appears to be made in Finland, we are in Northern Virginia 🚜🪵👍🏼🇱🇷
@OakMountainAcotts
@OakMountainAcotts 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Larry, we are in New Brunswick, Canada. The processor is from Finland and my log trailer is from Sweden via a distributor in Nova Scotia about 6 hours away from us.
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