Fireworks Firing Systems: Beginner to Advanced

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The Novice Pyro

The Novice Pyro

Күн бұрын

In this video I share how I leveled up my fireworks shows with an electronic firing system. I'm going to walk you through my take on a few of the best firing systems available today. While there are many options I didn't review, these are the ones that I recommend and some reasons why.
I will talk about manual-fire systems and hacks, plus leveling up with fully automated and more advanced firing system capabilities.
Chapters:
00:00 - Bilusocn and Crackle Cube Firing Systems
03:33 - COBRA Firing System (Bonus Black Friday Sale Info)
04:24 - IGNITE Firing System and Comparing to COBRA
07:19 - Advanced Firing System Features
08:40 - Wrapping Up
Here's some links to the products mentioned in the video:
Bilusocn Manual-Fire System: ebay.us/HccEed *
Crackle Cube: www.cracklecube.com/
COBRA: www.cobrafiringsystems.com/
IGNITE: www.ignitefiringsystems.com/
Here's some links to alternative products not mentioned in the video you may want to consider. This is by no means a complete list:
Firefly (similar to IGNITE): shootfirefly.com/
RFRemoTech (similar to Crackle Cube): www.rfremotech.com/
Mongoose (similar to COBRA): www.simplifirepyro.com/
fireTEK (similar to COBRA): www.keterif.com/
StarFire (similar to COBRA): starfiresales.com/
* paid link

Пікірлер: 66
@scottsmith496
@scottsmith496 7 ай бұрын
Great video Michael! Your approach is so clean.
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for that, Scott! Trying new formats and seeing what works best. I kinda like the RWB lighting in this one. 🇺🇸💥
@amsfireworkdisplays
@amsfireworkdisplays 7 ай бұрын
Great video very clear and concise. We started with the same system and quickly moved over to Cobra!
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah, it was a quick transition between all three for me. Hopefully this will help others save some time and cash. Wish someone would’ve given me the same advice!
@IanBible
@IanBible 4 ай бұрын
When I made the leap from hand firing to firing system 7~8 years ago, i never considered the cheap Chinese systems as soon as I saw their antennas. I pictured someone in the neighborhood with an old fisher price baby monitor setting off a mortar in my face. Safety concerns and future proofing led me to go with Cobra and I have never regretted it. I shoot 2 shows in the backyard every year now. Started with an 18m and an 18r. I add modules as I can.
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 4 ай бұрын
…baby monitor. 🤣🤣🤣 Definitely don’t regret the quick move to cobra myself! Thanks for stopping by!
@IanBible
@IanBible 4 ай бұрын
Even if crackle cube was available back then, I would not have picked it due to the "system" it relies on. I could have reached more ques for less $ by now if ignite was available back then. I'm only up to 146 ques now...I most likely still would have gone with cobra even though I have zero interest in doing pyro musicals.
@evolution2001
@evolution2001 7 ай бұрын
Another solid video! (Liked & subbed!) Your production is solid and your screen presence shows a good level of comfort in front of the camera. Makes me think you have other channels and/or you've done video productions elsewhere. As I said in a previous video, we're both getting started in YT. Keep it up and I feel your subs will continue to grow! Hopefully we'll both get the point where we cross that threshold and they start growing more exponentially! As for the firing systems? I had that first system as well. Used it for one day for a SFX engagement. My unit was COMPLETE GARBAGE and NOT SAFE! First, the main control box wouldn't even turn on unless I had the battery door open! But worse, I was wiring up some ground salutes and when I turned on the module, it popped the ematch! NOT FREAKING COOL!!!! Scared the bajeebus out of me and others in close prox to the salute. I went to return the entire unit and the seller had already removed it from their Amazon store. Fortunately, Amazon gave me a full refund. Other than than lil excursion into "How do these cheap systems work?", I've been 100% Cobra since 2016. 👍🏻👍🏻
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot, I appreciate the kind words! Yeah, YT is a trip… fun… but takes waaaay more effort than most realize. That’s crazy it fired when you turned it on!!! Another reason to level up to something else for sure. Loving my COBRA gear though. I noticed you can’t buy these on Amazon anymore. Means your experience likely wasn’t an isolated incident? Good luck with the channel. Pretty sure I already subbed. 💥😎
@jonelectronics510
@jonelectronics510 7 ай бұрын
It's interesting you got a misfire. I have tested the dB04r system meticulously and never managed to get it to fault. I do some teardown analysis on my channel. I wonder if the Busican (can't spell it) system is a cheaper clone of the dB04r Happiness Firing System product. Makes me wonder if I should get one to compare....
@majorpyrotechniks_
@majorpyrotechniks_ 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Subd. Great content Yessir
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Much appreciated!
@mikelondakos9723
@mikelondakos9723 Ай бұрын
Several year ago I did a big fireworks show, I didn't have time to get a remote firing system so I have to go with one long fuse and many calculations. It was almost perfect, the timing was perfect, the problem was my grand finish did not fire off, for some reason the individual fuses didn't ignite. With a little video editing I was able to add in the finale. This year I'll be doing a remote igniter to avoid that issue.
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro Ай бұрын
Nice you got to add it in via video later lol. Yeah man, remote firing is 100% the way to go!
@dalefriedenstab5916
@dalefriedenstab5916 7 ай бұрын
This ia a awsome video to explain the Cobra Firing System very easy to follow along with lots of excellent information! Have you been in the Movies? nice work...........
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you found it useful! And no... not in movies LOL. If you're interested in COBRA, be sure to also check out their COBRA classroom and other videos. Far more in-depth than I can ever go! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5tojJV21LbMdZs.htmlsi=-hPfFsSSh-MnHKvu
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment 7 ай бұрын
Good advice 💥💥 thank you!!
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! Thanks so much for watching!
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment 7 ай бұрын
@@TheNovicePyro No problem, we was standing behind you in line at the international fireworks competition and been following you since, thanks again for actual useable knowledge on anything Pyro💥💥💥
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
That is so awesome. I'll keep it coming! Let me know if there's anything you want me to cover. :)
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment 7 ай бұрын
@@TheNovicePyro some more in depth on the cobra, not on why it's the best but on usage and overall knowledge on using it and what's communicating with what,,, would be nice to kinda already be familiar with everything so the hard way isn't so hard lol
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
@PlatinumPyroEntertainment COBRA already has so many great videos that are pretty in-depth. It would be hard for me to improve on those! Check out their COBRA classroom playlist and other COBRA basics videos. Really informative stuff. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d5tojJV21LbMdZs.htmlsi=-hPfFsSSh-MnHKvu
@jesseweaver_fuyt
@jesseweaver_fuyt 5 ай бұрын
I personally like the ignite system cause I can see it going above and beyond Cobra. If they do away with the color system allow numbers 001-999 with a 72 que module that's a lot of wire. The 36 que mods are good as well if you are doing a small home show. It's all personal preference.
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 5 ай бұрын
Ignite is definitely awesome!
@jesseweaver_fuyt
@jesseweaver_fuyt 5 ай бұрын
@@TheNovicePyro that system is endless. You can do so much with it as well.
@trevorlaporte5951
@trevorlaporte5951 4 ай бұрын
I think you just described firetek 😅
@jesseweaver_fuyt
@jesseweaver_fuyt 4 ай бұрын
@@trevorlaporte5951 firetek is not run off your cellphone or tablet.
@zchats
@zchats 7 күн бұрын
I agree, I used the ignite i36 this year with a few breakout boards (So glad I realized that was a thing, saved my booty for an epic finale). I'm wondering what's stopping you from bringing your iPad out with you and starting a whole new sequence of queue mods with a separate device. I was hit with a bit of sticker shock this year with the price of fireworks and then stepping up from hand lighting but after doing 2 shows, I will be buying at least 2 more for next year. Hopefully by the time I need more than 216 queues, they will let you do channels instead of colors. ETA: I only had to light about 150 by hand, not counting tubes as I have yet to build a set of proper racks so that I can automate them. Glad I had a helper, we made a SOLID 15 minute show for a local business.
@3ccdmike
@3ccdmike Ай бұрын
The first one is known as an analog system.
@ChadBixby
@ChadBixby 7 ай бұрын
Great Video!! Liked and Subscribed! Question: did you say that the ignite modules CAN or CANNOT fire DMX? I need to learn more about DMX as I want lights and flames in my show. Thanks again, and keep the videos coming!
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
IGNITE cannot fire DMX. For that you’ll want the COBRA system with the DMX upgrade kit (36 or 72M only). Thanks for the sub and kind words, it’s much appreciated!
@ChadBixby
@ChadBixby 7 ай бұрын
@@TheNovicePyro thanks for the info!
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
@@ChadBixby Of course! Enjoy the Black Friday sales! 😎
@denfireworks
@denfireworks 7 ай бұрын
How many shows did you run with the Crackle Cube? And what kind of problems did you experience with it? I have been using it with Happiness 4 and 12 cue units, Bilusicon 4 cues AND the DCC24A's ALL in the same show without any issues in scripted and non scripted shows..... And instead of buying the control deck you can buy the Crackle Cube for $50 more.... It is an OUTSTANDING option for the backyard pyro who wants to up there game and use what they have and not break the bank. Personally I would rather have the Crackle Cube range then rely on Bluetooth like the ignite... And so the only 2 options are Cobra and Cobra?
@jordanroberts896
@jordanroberts896 6 ай бұрын
I would like to second this defense of the crackle cube. It really allows you to create a pyromusical at a fraction of the cost of Cobra Modules. I am a neighborhood guy and the crackle cube with bilusocn modules work great. I believe the crackle cube gives people a great electronic firing system without having to purchase 100 ques at cobra pricing. I am not stating the crackle cube is better. I am stating it is a great system that works at a cheap cost compared and perfect for neighborhood pyros that dont feel they need a 2-3K firing system. It is a good product.
@412pyromaxb8
@412pyromaxb8 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I liked the short and sweet version for the comparison but hy voice over and not just talk directly to the camera? Unless im crazy haha. But again thanks for sharing and keep em coming!
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I was definitely talking to the camera the whole time lol. Maybe your screen was frozen or something? What were you seeing?
@412pyromaxb8
@412pyromaxb8 4 ай бұрын
It just doesn't seem to line up with what you're saying. Seems to me like it's a voice over
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 4 ай бұрын
Very odd. Definitely not a voiceover. Only thing I can think of is to try watching on another device and see if it’s maybe related to the device you’re using? 🤷🏻‍♂️
@412pyromaxb8
@412pyromaxb8 4 ай бұрын
@TheNovicePyro no other video is like that but who knows
@blueman841
@blueman841 3 ай бұрын
have you heard anything about ignite programming to allow for more than 6 mods anytime?
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 3 ай бұрын
I haven’t heard anything official. I know some users have talked about a hack using Android devices and running two apps via a “Secured Folder” but I haven’t seen that done in person. Sounds like you might be entering COBRA territory if you’re anticipating needing more than 216 cues.
@BuddiiiBoiii
@BuddiiiBoiii 4 ай бұрын
Beginner- Ignite Advanced/Pro- Cobra PRO- Mongoose
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 4 ай бұрын
I’m genuinely interested in what makes Mongoose a more professional system over COBRA. What specifics help it stand out in that regard? I haven’t used Mongoose.
@BuddiiiBoiii
@BuddiiiBoiii 4 ай бұрын
Sure. I have professionally used Mongoose for 6 years and cobra for 2 years just for a background. Mongoose is 900mhz and does not require any 2.4ghz mesh networking. In extreme conditions of shows this is very important especially for the audio box. For example, I was 150 ft from the audio box from where we had the command center to the dj stand. Had no signal to audio box so moved back to where dj stand was. Lost signal to big guns in the back (900 ft away) but still had good signal to front 9 positions. (This was a 900 cue show) I had also put down 3 booster mods to try to get signal to the audio box but didnt work. Im assuning i was getting some sort of interference from the dj stand. To start the show I had to hold the command center in my hands to have signal to the audio box and then walk back to our shooting table to have signal to big guns. To me that's unacceptable especially in front of thousands of people. I have never ever had signal issues with mongoose. People said I could've done this or that but I'm hot and tired after putting the show together and I expect my system to just work. And that's what Mongoose does, you simply fire the show. I have never had signal issues with Mongoose especially with a $75 yagi antenna. I know Cobra sells their bigger antena but I work with someone who has used Cobra for 10 years says it sucks. Mongoose you can simply plug the audio jack into the dj stand. No audio box required. Or if you have multiple music locations you can make any laptop an audio box with their radio base. Mongoose has two free applications. Show director and music source. A laptop can either be a director or an audio box at a click of a button. Anyways don't get me wrong, I have seen incredible shows shot with Cobra but it just seems I always have to do an extra step for something. Mongoose just works. I say it's for PRO also because it only comes in 48 cues. So to get in is pretty steep. Cobra is definitely budget friendly to get in. I am not saying Cobra is trash. I think Cobra is awesome for backyards and yes pro shows but in extreme conditions I hesitate.
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your wisdom! It’s helpful to hear other points of view on these topics and gives us all more things to learn about. Appreciate you taking the time out of your day! 😎💥
@davidrogers-jz1wt
@davidrogers-jz1wt 4 ай бұрын
Cobra basically has a yearly subscription even after paying a ton of money for it
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, if you want to use the Show Creator software you have to pay annually for it. The cost isn’t too bad though at $69. Much cheaper than other paid options out there. There’s guys out there that just use excel though and are happy with that. I could never do that though myself.
@davidrogers-jz1wt
@davidrogers-jz1wt 4 ай бұрын
@@TheNovicePyro I'm plaing on cobra this winter got the cheap 4 cue type to test the waters as I'm partial to hand lighting but if I like it I'm building the cobra with 6 18ms
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 4 ай бұрын
That’s awesome, man! You’ll love it!
@czechmate5098
@czechmate5098 7 ай бұрын
Crackle Cube is by far the most economical choice! Did you even try it? How is it dependent on manual firing? It has free scripting software. The guy made it out of his own house! Way to put down a new product that is good.
@denfireworks
@denfireworks 7 ай бұрын
I agree 110%... My cube has worked great and I am running a mix of different systems as well. I was already invested into the Happiness system when I found the Crackle cube and it was a total game changer! This just feels more like a cobra commercial...
@TheNovicePyro
@TheNovicePyro 7 ай бұрын
I don't disagree with you that it's likely the cheapest way to script cues, however; the video wasn't about the best economical choice. It's about my journey and what I recommend as a result. There's a dependency on the RF modules (which come with the manual-fire systems). Consequently, anything that depends on those, I don't recommend due to the battery issues mostly. At 09:20, I do recommend going through the pros and cons of all of these options and deciding what's best for yourself regardless of my opinion, and that poking at the crackle cube was all in good fun and recognizing it may not be for me, but may be for others.
@czechmate5098
@czechmate5098 7 ай бұрын
@TheNovicePyro you do know the Crackle Cube it compatible with the dc24a modules? Zero batteries are needed. Rechargeable.. you poking fun is going to hurt a guys start-up. The cobra is RF dependent, too. But Sure, go buy the cobra with 18 cues for $679. But to knock down "poke fun" at a good product you never even used is ridiculous. Novice fits you very well.
@czechmate5098
@czechmate5098 7 ай бұрын
@denfireworks I shoot maybe once or twice a year. The CC has worked flawlessly with my pyromusicals. Steve is only going to make it better as it grows. I'll spend the money I save on cues and buy more pyro!
@denfireworks
@denfireworks 7 ай бұрын
@@czechmate5098 It has been rock solid for me too, and I shoot a lot more times a year. In each show I am running (8) DC24As (10) Happiness R12's and a TON of 4 cue modules with mixed vendors and not a single issue. AND I can still mirror all the systems too and setup multiple positions at a time because the units are so simple. And Steve keeps making the software better and better! I am beta testing the DMX cube too and it is going to be awesome with some tweaks. It is incredible with what he is doing as a one man shop!! Didn't seem like just poking fun to me either...
@nishadharmaraj1227
@nishadharmaraj1227 2 ай бұрын
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