FIRST DRIVE: BMW M2 - 454bhp RWD Manual Coupe + Cayman GT4 & BMW 1M Comparison

FIRST DRIVE: BMW M2 - 454bhp RWD Manual Coupe + Cayman GT4 & BMW 1M Comparison | Top Gear

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The BMW M2 is the smallest, least expensive M car. Only, this new one isn’t really that small (44mm wider than the old one at the front, and 18mm wider at the rear) and it’s certainly not inexpensive at a whisker under £70k. It is, however, the only remaining mainstream manual M car in the UK - and the 3.0-litre twin-turbo straight six’s power goes to the rear wheels only. So is BMW’s 454bhp, rear-drive, manual-optioned M4-lite a recipe for success? Well, we brought along the best-in-class - and an old-time favourite - for a stick-shift showdown.
00:00 - Intro
02:36 - BMW M2
09:50 - Porsche Cayman GT4
14:44 - BMW 1M
19:58 - Conclusion
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@maxfrederick7703 11 ай бұрын

1M uses the N54 engine. It is absolutely twin turbocharged, not twin scroll unlike the N55 engine in the OG M2

@infidel900rr 11 ай бұрын

The fact that TopGear got that wrong is a bit laughable.

@panavhulsurkar1260 11 ай бұрын

Many reviewers have gotten it wrong. No point in watching car reviews for relevant info anymore, I just enjoy seeing them being driven on beautiful pieces of roads...

@greathey1234 11 ай бұрын

I like pedantic people

@danieltackett4089 11 ай бұрын

An honest mistake, since the N55 “single turbo twin-scroll” that came in some other 135i’s was exactly as Ollie described. But TG should catch even honest mistakes before they get into the final edit.

@velociti03 11 ай бұрын

The fact that this wasn’t caught by anyone on the TG staff is kind of bonkers to me. Especially when he suggests that everyone else has it wrong. Sheesh…

@nonstopper 11 ай бұрын

Ah yes. “The last manual car” for the 10th year in a row!

@borisyurinov4822 11 ай бұрын

I hate manual gearboxes

@exothermal.sprocket 11 ай бұрын

@@borisyurinov4822 Get used to it. They will never go away.

@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 11 ай бұрын

@@borisyurinov4822same

@reggiecam9134 10 ай бұрын

@@borisyurinov4822good nobody cares

@EndeavorsDnB 10 ай бұрын

Was gonna say the exact same thing.

@juanpablodiazguillot3325 11 ай бұрын

Never expected TopGear to not do their homework its an N54 and its twin turbo. 2011 the 335i and 135i changed to the N55 twin scroll, but the N54 lived in the 1M and 335iS

@blueberrycobbler 11 ай бұрын

Lazy journalism, automotive and in general.

@apexholland7427 11 ай бұрын

N54 Also in 335i coupe and sedan until 2010

@MitchMatrixx 11 ай бұрын

@@apexholland7427 And even later than 2010 if you got the 335is, which also has the N54. (My 2011 335is is the basis of my assertion).

@MihneaStoian 11 ай бұрын

the BMW 1M has the same N54 engine as the 1st gen 135, 335, 435 and the Z4 - TWIN turbo 3L. the N55 is a twin-SCROLL turbo, but it's not as strongly built, and it was available in the later 135 and 335 of the time.

@papa_pt 11 ай бұрын

bruh he said it so confidently too 😂 so wrong

@MTerkait 11 ай бұрын

Correct All N54 are twin turbo.

@papa_pt 11 ай бұрын

No 435i though, it was still the 3 series coupe e92. And only 2nd gen Z4 got the n54. 1st gen were all NA. Also surprisingly, the F01 7 series got it.

@maciejpniewski7996 11 ай бұрын

fact: N55 is (was) far more reliable then N54

@papa_pt 11 ай бұрын

@@maciejpniewski7996 not far more. Definitely more though.

@kimchee411 11 ай бұрын

Embarrassing how Top Gear got the number of turbos on the 1M wrong, and spoken with such authority. These things go through editing, right? And nobody caught that?

@BMW1M 11 ай бұрын

Amazing. Really damages the brand / trustworthiness

@thunderpants007 11 ай бұрын

The presenter looks like he’s struggling to be interesting, he’s naturally an old hat “heel toe” nit picking geek. BMW are doing a great job (I don’t get the XM but it’s still wildly attractive to many).

@fletch9702 11 ай бұрын

BBC editing is to sanitise any non-pc stuff. While the reviewers are fairly clued up (this example being the exception) the video editors will be computer nerds that wouldn't know a semi-auto gearbox from a flowerpot.

@HarryBradbury 11 ай бұрын

@@fletch9702 That's a fantastic sentence

@giokavt 11 ай бұрын

Can someone comment the timestamp when he says that, I can't catch it unfortunately.

@WBizarre 11 ай бұрын

The trouble with the countless M2 vs. Cayman comparisons is that every journo reaches for the 6-cylinder Cayman. But even the "lowly" GTS is 50% more expensive than the M2. For any sort of price parity you'd have to stick with the ultra-base 718 Cayman with the 4-cylinder, which is still a few grand more than the M2. Has anyone bothered to do an M2 vs. base Cayman comparison?

@mikediazArtist 11 ай бұрын

Agree this is a bad comparison. The price point of a gt4 is ina different world compared to the m2. I think the gt4 is better to compare with the lotus emira rather than the m2. M2 would better be compared to possibly a Supra or amg a45s

@sirka6233 11 ай бұрын

Cayman GTS 4.0 and BMW M2 both in decent spec are about the same price here. On the other hand the driving experience in the Cayman would easily justify double the price of the M2. Even base Caymans have way better driving dynamics as the M2. New M2 might be a great GT, but not a great sportscar.

@moogle68 11 ай бұрын

@@sirka6233 You said "about the same price" in this comparison, but didn't Ollie himself say in the video that the Porsche GT4 he's driving is more than $10k increase in price over the BMW M2? That's a big difference for the majority of buyers who are people who will be getting this as their one and only car. I just think it's stupid to start a review by admitting that there is a spec of one car that is much closer in price to the opponent, but instead of using that spec they are using a much more expensive one because [basically] they want us to believe that _thousands_ of dollars in options and a different powertrain won't affect their impression of the car at all... *_WHAT?!_* TL;DR - The video should just end after the opening where he admits that there is a much closer priced Porsche available that would make the comparison much more fair, believable, and helpful.

@ccharlot 11 ай бұрын

Yeah 50 to 100% more expensive. I guess in theory someone may be cross shopping the two but really they're not the same market segment at all. Porsche = sports car first with luxury trimmings BMW= luxury car (with more concessions for practicality) with sports performance

@khymia27 11 ай бұрын

Porsche the car Bmw drivers buy when they can afford it

@thijsvw 11 ай бұрын

Dare i say, that is one beautiful GT4! 😍

@TML34 11 ай бұрын

Damn, he was so confident that 1M wasn’t a twin turbo. 😂 oh well, rest of the review was good.

@funke4u 11 ай бұрын

The 1M did have a twin (2)turbo(s) N54 engine not the twin scroll single turbo your presenter mentioned. @TopGear

@Tracertme 11 ай бұрын

I watched a red BMW Z4 35is follow me the other day and that little car foot print looked so good….. it’s such an under rated car next to the 1M

@danziger69 11 ай бұрын

Really dig all three, but the M2 has gotten too big and heavy. Glad that manuals still exist!

@dougrobinson8602 11 ай бұрын

The fact that you can't get a manual 2-series aside from the M2 is a sharp stick in the eye to any Bimmerphile. Pick up a previous generation M2 with a manual while you still can!

@imamfn 11 ай бұрын

I don't see the need to choose the current gen M2 over the M4. The dimension is so off as the entry class of sports coupe compared to M4. It grows too big compared to its predecessors, the previous M2 and 1M

@faismain2faisal686 11 ай бұрын

Excellent 👍👍👍

@johnm5131 11 ай бұрын

M2: "Everything feels big in here"......(note: test driver is 5 foot 3 inches, and 65Kg)

@georgimihalkov4781 11 ай бұрын

So the mid-engined, two seater sports car is the best sports car of the group...Thanks, I certainly didn't see that one coming.

@FurkanCemTurfanda 11 ай бұрын

Shock

@RYTF5 11 ай бұрын

And a gt4 is stupid expensive lol. I mean the bmw is overpriced too but compared to the Porsche it's a steal

@maxfrederick7703 11 ай бұрын

@@RYTF5 porsche are actually bargains in their respective markets. GT4 can whoop far more expensive cars for excitement and engagement.

@ogstinky7305 11 ай бұрын

BMW isnt in same league as Porsche though everything is nicer and better on porsche

@georgimihalkov4781 11 ай бұрын

@@ogstinky7305 Well yeah, that's my point. It's a pointless comparison.

@nlocnil3602 11 ай бұрын

That M2 looks absolutely sad standing between 2 stunning cars

@maybelive765 11 ай бұрын

The GT4 is a 35+ year old design and the BMW 1M has DTM-like modified look to it to a 25yo design. Its not really fair I'd say, but that said I would not get the M2.

@user-iu1ru1qz7u 11 ай бұрын

Right? Looks like shite lol. Way to make everything worse BMW 😂

@kayronmercieca8226 11 ай бұрын

Really? The 1M looks awful - really dated. The GT4 is beautiful (not this colour though), I'll give it that, though the interior is very dated as well. The Cayman series isn't currently worth it for their interior, in my opinion. The new M2 looks very aggressive. Much better than the older F87 M2.

@markhormann 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, the new M2 needs to come down about 2" also.

@jeebus2121 11 ай бұрын

I never did like the 1M's headlights, even when it was a new car. The rest of it, though, it pretty pleasing visually.

@imperialginger1590 11 ай бұрын

The 1M power was always under quoted from the factory as well (so as not to step on the toes of the M3). Our 1M, completely stock, put out 340whp on a reputable dyno (w/15% loss that's 400hp). I'm confident that they all far exceeded the quoted power.

@mauricetoussaint7283 11 ай бұрын

Mine was bang on the money when dyno'd, so don't make that assumption that they were all like that.

@BMW1M 10 ай бұрын

Mine makes 670hp. Now that's fun

@odinikita4821 11 ай бұрын

seriously the lines on the cayman/boxter twins ever since the 981 series came out are just beautiful. they say the F type is beautiful, and it is, but this stands shoulder to shoulder imo.

@RichardJones-kx6mb 11 ай бұрын

Nice to see cars with 3 pedals. What lovely roads for being engaged with the driving. You just don’t get that with an automatic. One of my great joys in life when visiting Europe is getting a rental with a stick. Even a little estate (station wagon) is fun when you’re on a small road in the countryside.

@dylanbland 11 ай бұрын

I think you’ll find the 1M is twin turbo as it’s based on the N54. It has a small turbo which hands over to a larger turbo. Awesome review love that BMW has continued the 1M/M2 philosophy

@mdifficult3675 11 ай бұрын

Nope, sorry mate. It’s a standard twin turbo. One doing the front three cylinders, and one doing the back three. Same size as each other.

@dylanbland 11 ай бұрын

@@mdifficult3675 OK! Thanks for clarifying!

@mdifficult3675 11 ай бұрын

@@dylanblandYou were a lot more accurate than Top Gear! 😂

@mashinajoe 11 ай бұрын

N54 uses parallel turbos. Not sequential.

@rafaminus5366 11 ай бұрын

That Gt4 seems absolutely beautiful, powerful. 🎉🎉🎉

@dp2901 11 ай бұрын

I've got a 1M and it still brings a smile to my face and a crowd at the dealership. It's sad to see what its descendants have devolved into.

@F87M2CS 11 ай бұрын

Yeah , its a shame winning the EVO car of the year 🫨 how the 1M compare to the NA grandfather E30 M3 or the E46 M3? Each generation has its audience.

@F87M2CS 11 ай бұрын

@@FogAndLimehaahah dream well my friend with your M lite .its a good car , i respect it but its not a real M without a proper engine. An experiment made by M to see if there is audience for such a compact car ! And thanks god they did ! The 1M was a cheap immitation of the E46 M3 , without a real M engine ofc.

@F87M2CS 11 ай бұрын

@@FogAndLime if that makes u feeling better , yes !

@germanengineering204 11 ай бұрын

Agree with this new M2, but last gen M2 CS is the best M car of all time imo! M2CS is just a spectacular looking car as well!

@germanengineering204 11 ай бұрын

@@FogAndLime 1M is better because of the better steering, but worse everything else lmao! Whatever you say!😂

@markburton5170 11 ай бұрын

Just heard 'there is more room in the back' - sadly not, I am getting one (manual, no carbon seats) but whereas the M2 Comp is comfortable for adults in the back that is not the case with the new model due to significantly reduced headroom. This reduces the practicality advantages of the M2 over Caymans. I was comfortable and happy with the driving position and setup in a manual demo.

@mooshninetyfive 11 ай бұрын

This guy explains everything so well ! Enjoyed this a lot

@gregskel48 10 ай бұрын

8:15 the great thing about these new sport seats is being able to see when you've lost your phone down the pit of doom but still not being able to get it out as the bolsters are too stiff.

@fletch9702 11 ай бұрын

M2 looks plastic. Better here than in the Hyundai/primer blue that most reviews have used I admit, but it still looks like a semi melted lego car. 1M looks gorgeous, as does the porka. The last M2 was quite the looker too, but it appears to be BMWs aim these days to ruin any good styling work they have done in the past.

@MbTrojansurgeon 10 ай бұрын

If you want the real deal “M” experience…do what I did. 2004 E46 M3 manual. Full refresh and fettle, with lots left over for track days and maintenance.

@sugarsaint 11 ай бұрын

How can the 1M still look so damn good in 2023 👀

@igorbrezovic 11 ай бұрын

Because all new Beemers are so damn ugly 🤷‍♂️

@sugarsaint 11 ай бұрын

@@igorbrezovic 🤣

@mauricetoussaint7283 11 ай бұрын

It doesn't! Looks dated!

@Schmitzelhaus 10 ай бұрын

@@mauricetoussaint7283 Looking dated is the biggest compliment you can give it when you look at the current gen of any BMW imo. 😅 But to each their own, no point in arguing over taste. 🤷‍♂

@MRVSKIN 11 ай бұрын

It would have to be the 1m every time. Might be a good video to do from the 1m along with all the series of base M2’s up to the latest one to see how each fairs against each other

@psgp298 11 ай бұрын

1M forever!

@UndeadCrook 11 ай бұрын

Trying to correct people with wrong information..facepalm @Topgear. The 1M with N54 is 100% TWIN TURBO. The first generation M2 with N55 is SINGLE TURBO. Disappointing review.

@andrewpiper2880 11 ай бұрын

Awesome video guys.. well done everywhere!

@timbonfield3589 11 ай бұрын

Definatly coming round to the looks, arches are almost e30 m3 box like, almost if you squint

@Winning9999 11 ай бұрын

The 20-second ad every 6 minutes really adds to the immersion 🤩

@DavidBrown-bs7gg 11 ай бұрын

Still prefer the 1M, and it'll hold its value the best too

@duffydon1741 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely bang-on

@currycel470 11 ай бұрын

S58 platform will hold value better

@tarquin161234 11 ай бұрын

@@currycel470 If it were engine performance that determined a car's long term value then no cars would ever hold their value.

@BMW1M 10 ай бұрын

@@currycel470 The 1M has already won - If you actually own one, it was worth more than you paid from the very first day you drove it, and keeps going up. No S58 has done that. Look at the price of X3M and X4M and cry (if you bought new),

@TCrimson05t 11 ай бұрын

Yeah it's somebody currently looking for a daily 1 series I'm looking for an N55 one made after 2010. Because I really love the 1-series m I know for a fact that has an N54 in it. Of the three that's the one I'd pick.

@Schmitzelhaus 10 ай бұрын

Without even watching, i would take that 1M any day of the week! Even the licence plate on it is perfection! 😁👌

@rcouchh 11 ай бұрын

Not sure how you can compare it to a GT4. The M2 starts at 62k and with every option is 75k. The GT4 starts at 105k, and can go up to over 130k… not even in the same class. Bunch of errors here too. The 1M is twin turbo. The G87 M2 also has significantly LESS room in the back seats than previous gen, not more.

@mariellarojas8562 11 ай бұрын

You forgot the Lotus Emira in this comparison. BTW I hope the manual transmition stays alive for the M2 CSL

@danieltackett4089 11 ай бұрын

I’ve been debating whether the M2 or GTS 4.0 should replace my current F87 M2 as a weekend car. Thank you for helping me to make that decision.

@chrisharris4223 11 ай бұрын

I have the GTS, you won’t regret it 😊

@Ricky26uk 11 ай бұрын

Save your money and keep the f87 👌 miss mine🥲

@bimmeracing 11 ай бұрын

GTS all the way !

@joe718gt4 11 ай бұрын

Get the GTS and a nice exhaust, if you don't need the extra space for the weekend

@rickycolon4053 11 ай бұрын

Is it me or did they edit the video to take out the incorrect reference to the N54 not being twin turbo? If so, kudos to Top Gear for fixing this.

@eviltriangle 11 ай бұрын

Beside the mistake on the 1m engine its a great Video and i found myself agreeing with most of his thoughts. The weight of the new 2 is just insane, i thought my m2c is heavy. This is just too much. Plus the interior is to much playstation like and removes a lot of that driving machine feeling of the older Ms. Sure bmw must keep up with other brands/interior gimmicks. But they went star trek all the way. I drove an e36 before so i must say i cant relate to other comments seeing a 36 design language in that new one. Again. Great Video.

@Schmitzelhaus 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, don´t see that either. With how squared it is and the bolt on looking wheel arches on the side it is to me clearly more going for the E30 look. Just not nearly as well executed as the E30 imo. And weighing almost as much as two E30 surely doesn´t help it either... Gimme the 1M any day of the week, in terms of both looks wise and driving experience.

@supercarxtasy 11 ай бұрын

"Kudos to the editor and videographer for this incredible video! The editing is top-notch, and the videography’s is simply stunning.”👏🎬🎥

@papajimg9238 11 ай бұрын

Strange that the long gear ratio of the M2 was not mentioned. Of course, not as long as the GT4's, but quite long to consider the auto a better option.

@Schmitzelhaus 10 ай бұрын

He said that pretty much everything is 3rd gear while driving it tho. 😉

@jasonoshita4441 11 ай бұрын

What a fun comp. You guys get me.

@Spyder_Tours 11 ай бұрын

Even a cayman gts is not close to being comparable with the G87 it’s 15k more at least. The Porsche manual is the best as you would expect it to be but it costs a lot more on every angle.

@franzhuber7361 11 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh, how beautiful the GT4 is😍 Xspecially next to the Beemers

@WhiteP01 11 ай бұрын

I am sure that the manual gearbox in M models will survive longer than the normal dashboard, it seems to me that we are doomed to complicated tablets full of unnecessary information.

@vuyosono3352 11 ай бұрын

Name of song on the transition to the 1M ? Please 🙏🏾 14:40

@hypermotardking 11 ай бұрын

where are these roads in the UK?

@01pabz 11 ай бұрын

1 M next too the M2 . Is so much better looking 👀 (1M) wow !!!!

@w210source-uv5lc 11 ай бұрын

1M was actually twin-turbocharged. Other than that, new M2 for me.

@mattb5342 11 ай бұрын

14:35. Where is that? Incredible.

@tapiwahondova3938 10 ай бұрын

As of the 14th of August 2023 in South Africa, Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 is priced at R2076000.00 and BMW M2 Coupe at R1503975.00 base prices. I think the two cars are in different market segments.

@BMkeys14 11 ай бұрын

Incorrect @16:00. N54 is twin turbo

@mauricetoussaint7283 11 ай бұрын

You only have to look at the new M2 and it's a no. But then sit in one, as I have and the issues highlighted in this video are immediately apparent. I could never get comfortable in it and frankly, didn't like the interior layout either. Quality was good though. I currently drive a Cayman 718 GTS and was considering the M2, but nope. No even close to my car in so many ways and anyway, I don't manuals anymore, just can't see the point.

@joe718gt4 11 ай бұрын

If i had to get a BMW I think i would just get a nice E46 or E9x M3 at this point in my life and just maintain it

@kborn1239 10 ай бұрын

What countries are the M3 manual being released?

@ashman0071 10 ай бұрын

It's not that I don't like new cars - it's just that I feel much better when I'm driving much older cars .......

@85priesty 11 ай бұрын

The 1M is definitely on my ultimate dream car list...unfortunately when you have kids and being a musician...Sports cars have never been a viable option...but after a GQ 4.2 Litre Nissan Patrol diesel ....everything feels sporty. Used to have drag races with buses for an adrenaline rush...😂 2010-2012 was the best era for manual vehicles. Working in car sales. I love that era, because screens age vehicles so quickly...

@deanisplemoni 10 ай бұрын

The more and more I see that M2... the more I like the front.

@anthonylarson6511 11 ай бұрын

Jeremy, Richard, or James would've known the correct turbo config on the 1M

@BMW1M 10 ай бұрын

Indeed. Embarrassing.

@Csl74csl 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the advise with regards to the seats in combination with the manual, but you are 5ft tall

@toobasaurus23 8 ай бұрын

Who the hell gets a Porsche Cayman GT4 in lavender?

@alexmaddox2255 11 ай бұрын

You'd still have the M1 though out of these three. However, I think a Cayman GTS would sway me more than the GT4.

@vonknight5311 11 ай бұрын

Lol yall know I came to the comments when he said that one part.

@BMWROYAL 11 ай бұрын

20:50 only in the Uk

@Jim-jw8gb 10 ай бұрын

Comparing 2 cars that start at 20 grand apart, one is a 4 seat coupe and the other is a 2 seater sports car………yeah that seems like a good match!

@memememine1 11 ай бұрын

Ugh if gt4 had a proper 2nd gear which ended at around 60mph it would be perfect. Even though it has almost enough torque to lug its way through 2nd it just feels wrong.

@cw205mi16 11 ай бұрын

A short ratio diff would be great. 45/65/95/120 etc would transform the car and be so much more fun to drive

@aigarsmironovics2253 11 ай бұрын

Perfect! 1M Fan.

@RiperSnifle 11 ай бұрын

I love the M cars but i agree regarding the size of the interiors/steering wheel. What were they thinking?! Unless you're 6ft 5 with massive hands its just ridiculous, way, WAY too big and chunky.

@Chris-nj1mr 11 ай бұрын

Silly comparison with the GT4 in terms of price point but I think the outcome would be the same with any of the cayman line up. Even a base cayman has that Porsche DNA and chassis that made it a wonderful drivers car, the extra mid range torque from the turbo in the lesser caymans also helps with the tall gearing

@VitaliiTrofymenko 11 ай бұрын

Where is this road?

@pgr3290 11 ай бұрын

I love BMW but the M2 can only be a heated up coupe. It's also too large now because of the M4 platform, the previous M2 was much better. The Cayman is much more expensive because it's a mid engined sports car from inception and you get what you pay for in that sense. The M2 then is always onto a loser in any comparison. Other cars in this category are fairer comparisons such as the A110 S or Lotus Emira. The 1M is something special because that is a car BMW built for fun with a bunch of stuff pulled out the parts bin mashed together. It worked perfectly.

@alasdairstuart3394 9 ай бұрын

Great video. 🙏

@Daniel189HLL 11 ай бұрын

Love Chris

@ezekielochieng8941 11 ай бұрын

The XM, M3/M4 and the M2 are all just too weird to justify their price tags. The in-line 6 and V8 power plant engines are wonderful.

@AndyS2K76 11 ай бұрын

i have a gt86 and a fiesta st mk8.5. Automatic clutch is better, faster and easier....but nothing can be more connected and enjoyable than a good stick, a good car and good roads....no need also for so much engine power. I had an M3 e46 and for me the gt86 is more fun, more easy to handle and better on the road. every corner can be a little drift and the rain is something that make me smile....because it has the right power for the road

@Spikestriple 11 ай бұрын

I’d still take the 1M… unless we’re talking about the GT4RS.

@rw1592 11 ай бұрын

The M2 competes with the Audi RS3Y and the AMG A45S. A comparison of these three would be relevant. A Cayman GT4 is a great second or third car and not an alternative to a compact, very sporty 4 seater.

@peterkogoj7028 11 ай бұрын

The M2 is missing a body color painted front lip

@Eduardolo1964 8 ай бұрын

I really like the long gear ratio and that's what appeals to me extremely about the GT4. The nervous shifting of today's short-ratio transmissions is simply annoying.

@ahemgee9542 11 ай бұрын

Imagine working for Top Gear and not knowing that the 1M DOES infact have a twin turbo N54 engine as opposed to the single turbo twin scroll 135i engine. Atleast do some research before making the video ? Especially worse as he attempted to correct people for saying it wasn't a twin😅 😅😅

@RandyRodgirth 11 ай бұрын

Despite the lack of a manual option, I’d take an Alpine A110 over all of them. Porsche and BMW have all become too fat, and the long gearing on Cayman’s saps some of the fun too. Lightness has become far too underrated in the sports car segment.

@aitorgallego98 10 ай бұрын

I have an Alpine a110 as my daily and her driving dynamics are insane

@Schmitzelhaus 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely agree on the weight comment and i would also agree on the Alpine, as it is everything a BMW M used to be with being RWD and lightweight. It even looks absolutely gorgeous! But with all that it just is the biggest shame ever that Renault dropped the ball so incredible hard by not offering a manual imo... That would´ve been the absolute no-brainer modern day sports-coupe to buy like the GR86 is now...

@aitorgallego98 10 ай бұрын

@@Schmitzelhaus i have one and I agree the dual clutch it has is nice but a manual would be awesome

@Karabo_Dean 11 ай бұрын

I always find it “funny” when journalists make bold statements about a brands sales strategy or how the brand respond to specific needs of their customer base. For true bmw fans boys, we get why they do what they do.. so my advice to outsiders, your job is to either enjoy the visit and experience what we do when we drive our cars or go play with the toys you’ve spent your money on 👀

@BMWROYAL 11 ай бұрын

9:00 the 2 series not based on the 4 series becuase the 2 series gran coupe is fed, the f87 was based on the 4 series and the first 1 series was based on the 3 series.

@cw205mi16 11 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with what he said. You're thinking of the wrong 1 series; he's talking about the F40, not the 1M's lineage.

@Spirited_Driver 11 ай бұрын

Ive got 2 issues from this guy! Pretty sure the 1m is actually a twin turbo n54 engine not twin scroll n55. ...and the fake gear changes in the Porsche doesn't count because nobody is going to shift gears back n fourth consecutively without changing speed as you have illustrated in an over exaggerated fasion in this video. That was a fail. The Porsche is however the drivers car I'm sure though, even though I have a bmw. I can't afford one so that's the other issue lol.

@BPoweredLove 10 ай бұрын

0:21 Wow! He's in an M2 and can barely see over the steering wheel. He is tiny. 8:05 Sir! It's because you're itty bitty! Raise that seat. There's a foot of air above your head. You're WAY too low. Great video. Thanks!

@Tatexo77 9 ай бұрын

Should we wait for the CS or competition?

@rb6978 11 ай бұрын

Anyone know the roads on this video?

@curtisgilmore9446 11 ай бұрын

The 1M and M2 OG are just special cars full of character and personality. The new M2 is a big step forward in terms of performance but it’s now just a mini M4 and lacks personality.

@roguetrooper1000 11 ай бұрын

I prefer the old shape m2 not that new 1 ..love the porsche colour and we al love 1m 😊

@HariOmRadhaKrishna 10 ай бұрын

I'd vote for the Porsche for best colour, despite being a BMW fan. Pale purple?

@Sparky6string 11 ай бұрын

Please bring the show back! I miss the new trio. Get well Freddie!

@friendlyuser1 11 ай бұрын

the front of the M2 looks similar to the Dodge magnum srt8 from back in the day

@patrickbateman7122 11 ай бұрын

Haha N54 is twin turbo charged!! Call yourself an enthusiast!! Oh dear TopGear 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

@garbage2882 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, I still don't why people say the new M2 is bad looking, my own taste has been changing a lot lately, but the front doesn't look as bad.

@Schmitzelhaus 10 ай бұрын

But is "doesn´t look as bad" really the new standard you would want to settle on? I also would agree that the front looks waaaay better than the current M3/4, those boxed vents left and right still look simply out of place to me, they just don´t really fit with anything else of the car. And at the same time the back looks waaaay worse with the weird rearlights if you ask me.

@garbage2882 10 ай бұрын

@@Schmitzelhaus no, we shouldn't settle on this, but what I meant by ''doesn't look as bad'' was that it doesn't look nearly as bad as people make it out to be, and I agree with you about the reason why it looks not as good as it could

@paulelliott3056 11 ай бұрын

Don’t get why the M2 is getting compared to the GT4, or even a GTS 4.0. The GT4 is twice the price of an M2, and the GTS 4.0 is about 60% more. If I had the cash I’d def take either of the Porsche’s, but jeez you get a lot of sports car for your money with the M2

@paulelliott3056 11 ай бұрын

@@Legotechs a new 718 GT4 the same price as a new M2? Really? Where?