First Look at My New Rain Jacket - The Enlightened Equipment Visp vs Outdoor Research Helium II

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@charlesmason-smith5763 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frozen - my wife and I upgraded from OR to Visps in May and used them on our hike of Wainwright’s Coast to Coast walk here in the UK. They were amazing, I’m sure you’ll be very happy with your new jacket! Thanks for all the great, inspirational videos! 👍

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I hope so! Looking forward to testing. Thanks for watching.

@brianherman4912 2 жыл бұрын

I just got mine too, used in a rain storm last weekend and it performs well!

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear!

@matthewstanko2478 2 жыл бұрын

i got three years now with the versilite and its outstanding! been in some crazy downpours too.

@cgriggsiv 2 жыл бұрын

Hope this jacket works well for you young man and I love the T-shirt All secure in sector 7

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

WOOO BUDDY!

@brib9716 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for a long time too. Nice of them to notify me (not!) they were back in stock like I signed up for. Thanks for making the video so I could order. Wish they made the cuffs with something other than velcro.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Weird I got my email stating they were back in stock. I actually really like the cuffs but we'll see how they hold up.

@uptrail7169 2 жыл бұрын

EE makes good products. I've heard about it and I've been curious to see a review. I also see that you busted out the Shug shirt. WHOOOOO BUDDY! I'll have to do a live stream with you someday. That would be fun.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Heck yea Shug shirt. A little foreshadowing for the next video!

@johneason6540 2 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the review, glad visp is back in stock. My original OR gave me good service for three years. Then started wetting out this summer in the AZ monsoons. Treated it twice, was still wetting out. Just bought another OR a month ago, it does have a new fabric, but have not been in the rain with it yet. But it has worked very well as wind protection. We will see about the rain with the new one. Otherwise I'm switching to the visp too. Thanks 😊

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's good until the original DWR wears off?

@lifthearth 2 жыл бұрын

Jason, you are more confident and comfortable behind the camera than ever before. You just seem so relaxed and at peace with life. Your having fun and living authentic. Looks like finishing the the AT, getting married and other growth experiences have served you well.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I think I'm a little extra happy too because works been rough and it slowed down finally.

@lifthearth 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures, makes perfect sense!

@barondavis5692 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same.

@gboltonatrail1099 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I thought you were modeling Shug Shirts! Wooo Buddy! Thanks for the review of the Visp!

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

All secure in sector 7

@Jagoffbrewer 2 жыл бұрын

Have the Visp and love it. Biggest issue is it’s not breathable enough for me even with pit zips but I run very hot. If you want to roll it up just roll it into the hood but I just shove it in my mesh too. Still hasn’t wet out for me.

@lynx7906 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frozen for this review. I also have a OR Helium II rain jacket and I'm not happy about the length of it either.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@photog1529 2 жыл бұрын

I just received my VISP about two weeks ago...haven't put it to use yet. Another benefit is its sized to mesh with the Torrid jacket as a size-to-size outer layer...medium VISP will fit over a medium Torrid, etc.

@BreathEmpowerment 2 жыл бұрын

I hadn't noticed that! I was planning on getting a Torrid along with the quilt I just bought from them (taking advantage of their current 20% sale). I was a little bummed it doesn't stuff in itself, but function is priority. Knowing it's meant to layer with the Torrid sealed the deal for me! Thank you

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

The only thing I'm not a fan of is the hood. Wish there was a bill so rain wouldn't run down my face. The way around it is keep it loose. But in high winds your face is going to get soaked even with your head down.

@davidson_oldbull_sectionhiker 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Frozen. By the way love the SHUG tee shirt. Take Care

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Woo buddy!

@nedanother9382 2 жыл бұрын

Im back to using Tyvek - its a bit heavy but its a miracle product. It's mainly for a ground sheet but doubles as my rain kilt. The size is such that it wraps 1 1/2 times around me, covers to my low shins, and is warm and bullet proof in rain. Absolutely doesn't blow up. I wrap then roll down to my waste and finish it off with a real light bungy around the waste. Then you have it as the first item on the ground before the tent. And you can fold it into a swan or a broach or a pterodactyl ....if you'd like (old man joke)

@josephr2766 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent shirt!

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Woo Buddy!

@burgoo64 2 жыл бұрын

Also check out Lightheart Gear sil poly rain jacket. I love mine long pit zips and nice pockets.. Have had mine over a year and never wet out.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I almost went with that jacket at the end of my thru hike. But the last time I looked they had changed the fabric.

@_Roasted_Marshmallow 2 жыл бұрын

Love the shug shirt!

@AROOnline 2 жыл бұрын

My Helium II has the same issue, it worked great for a few months, and then started wetting out where my pack hit it, now it just wets out all over if its more than just a light rain. I have not reapplied the coating though, but frustrating for such an expensive jacket.

@teawithfrankie 2 жыл бұрын

So grateful you are reviewing this piece for our wet PA backcountry trails! And yeah Jupiter might be everyone’s thru hiking crush ❤️ ❤️❤️ this winter can you review the EE Torrent jacket?

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I've had my eye on it but since I'm saving up for the PCT thru hike I have some other priorities first.

@teawithfrankie 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventuresPCT is a muuuuch better investment. Let us help you reach your goal! Ever consider hosting some PA backpacking trips? We pay you to lead us on some fun adventures!

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe one day but I enjoy solo hiking a lot.

@HikingwithBraids 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Montbell Versalite and do love it, but I like the back length on the EE better. I'm definitely curious to see how it performs for you. Btw, love the thumbnail!

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Braids! Looking forward to it raining for once lol

@stitch3163 2 жыл бұрын

Sporting a Shug shirt made my day. The Visp is a winner without a doubt.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Woo buddy

@TheLaunderetteExplorer_uk 2 жыл бұрын

5:24 - Yes ninja guy 👍 Great product review.. 👍

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@tompannill4562 2 жыл бұрын

I think the Helium was designed more for climbing than hiking. The lack of length in the back is better suited to being worn with a harness. The climbing aspect is also why the Helium has elastic cuffs (less chance of getting caught on rocks/gear compared to the adjustable). Great video as always Fro…except for the whole Jupiter being your man crush instead of me 😤😅

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Lol you will always be my man crush 'Murica ❤️

@jimpflugrath6220 2 жыл бұрын

A wide-brimmed WPB hat worn OVER any rain jacket hood will prevent the rain jacket hood from ever wetting out. Marmot Eco Precip Safari hat is one such hat, but needs some ring magnets on the strap to make it work even better. Such a hat is also great to shield one's head, upper face, and neck from the sun.

@OldPackMule 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent! BTW, the labels on your picture look reversed. Hope it's as good as it looks. Love the Shug shirt. If you go Full Jupiter you've got to sleep on a 1/8" closed cell foam pad and no hammock or tent! You can have that life... I need good padding or suspension.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

LOL Good catch it was late when I made that pic!

@timlois 2 жыл бұрын

The pad has to be torso length as well. lol

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I'll never be able to sleep on that 😂

@Hangs4Fun 2 жыл бұрын

I switched from OR Helium II to ZPacks Vertice about 2.5 years ago. Mine is still going strong though I have heard others having issue eventually with their Vertice wetting out. Looks like EE almost copied the Vertice jacket feature for feature, except the Vertice has a slight bill to the hood. Highly recommend the the Vertice mits, layered with 100% merino glove liner from Sitka as a base layer and then the possum down gloves from ZPacks, those Vertice mits provide the 3rd outer layer for max protection at minimal weight and volume. Those Vertice mits also keep the wind from robbing any heat your other layer or two has. Those three layers on my hands were a game changer for me 2.5 years ago and they all are still going strong. No thread or fabric issues with constant use. I just add and remove layers as needed. I also have the Vertice pants. They are fine, but I just don't seem to use pants as much as my jacket and gloves, as my legs seem to be able to put up with quite a lot. I will say, the pant can be put on and taken off easily even with your footwear on (from Altra trail runners to Salomon hiking boots)

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

The vetice was on my list of things to check out as well. I've heard some down sides from other vloggers (like Darwin) that he didn't really like the vertice.

@Hangs4Fun 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures yeah, Darwin's the only one I've hear from, but he does seem to fancy the EE line. Similar to your original OR Helium II, maybe I got a good one, no clue. Also, possible that fabric supplies changed for both OR and ZPacks? I'm just glad my Vertice setup is still going strong. I still use my Helium II jacket and Helium pants btw, I keep them in my vehicle in case of emergency. The Vertice had a pit vents, we're lighter, and breath better. I def understand though if Darwin's Vertice let him down, it's time to try something else. If I remember coming correctly he loved his first set and after getting a replacement he had similar wet through problems that you experienced with your warranty replacement. Any way have a great day, and be safe out there

@Hangs4Fun 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures hey your thumbnail for this video is backwards on your labels BTW. You have the label under the wrong images ;-)

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Someone else pointed it out, it's fixed but will take a few hours for the thumb to update.

@Hangs4Fun 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures no worries, :-)

@BeichnerFarms 2 жыл бұрын

All secure in sector 7.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Woooooooo buddy!

@Errcyco 7 ай бұрын

The new non-PFC DWR just doesn’t let water bead. I’m using a 2023 Patagonia and it sets out instantly but their solution works.. you gotta just test it, hard to describe.

@scottbutler1561 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review

@mutestyles 2 жыл бұрын

Thumbnail was top notch.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

thanks!

@KN4OKadventures 2 жыл бұрын

My Visp came in about 2 months ago. Real test will probably be in Oct

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Here's hoping

@Mr_J_J 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. I was also between the Versalight and the Visp, but went with the Visp and it’s a great minimalism lightweight shell for on-the-go or backpacking. I also have a Goretex Pata rain shell that weighs closer to a pound so it’s my cold weather or camping preferred layer when I need something heavy duty. Now, I’m strongly considering the Visp rain pants piece. Do you have any opinions on these, or rain pants in general? Thanks!

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I'd probably go with a rain skirt than pants. If you are after a lightweight wind pants that you can add dwr to then check out the ballerina pants on Amazon. Under the name body wrapper. They've been great for windy days and warmth. Not great in the rain though.

@Mr_J_J 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures I can see that being good with shorts but I was thinking that I would use rain pants with my thermal bottoms to create thermal pants as temps start to drop. But then again maybe just bring pants from the get-go in that case. Hmm

@glenloewen7507 5 ай бұрын

Super interesting review. I was super excited to get my OR Helium and in my first rain storm with it, it completely wetting out in minutes. For me, that jacket is completely useless and a huge disappointment. I need a packable jacket that will work well enough to put over a puffy and keep everything dry.

@robinsavard84 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! I just ordered the Hellium 2 😳😩

@emmanuelvincent6107 2 жыл бұрын

I, too, started out with the helium ii. The dwr was iffy but the real deal breaker for me was the lack of adjustment on the hood. It would be ok as long as the wind was calm but just a small breeze would blow it off your head. Mildly infuriating. The visp looks sweet. Hope it works out for you.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

You didn't have the shock cord on top of the hood? Mine fit nicely with it tensioned.

@emmanuelvincent6107 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures It did but I still never really got a good fit with that cord squeezing my head. I just always wished there was cord adjustments on the front of the hood to cinch it around your face.

@tdeen752 2 жыл бұрын

Knowing how fast the outdoor gear world evolves,,is that the latest OR jackets you are comparing with?

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

That's the 3 year old helium 2

@gagesleeper4578 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Frozen, can you give me a recommendation on a few trails to hit in Pennsylvania for a nice backpacking trip with my girlfriend for a weekend

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

If you look in my.instafram profile, you can find my channel. Search Pennsylvania. And I'll give you my top 10

@tommaurer996 2 жыл бұрын

I was going to pull the trigger on a Visp, but I've read that a lot of people are concerned about durability.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard that about a lot of things including my pillow. But it's still going. I'll give it a good test and report back.

@lancewasniewski2637 Жыл бұрын

You have had this visp jacket for a year now. What do you think of it? Are you thinking of going to the Monte Bell?

@FrozensAdventures Жыл бұрын

In that time fortunately or unfortunately it's only rained once on me. My initial thoughts are the material is better than the Helium 2. I do not like the good on the visp though. For us people that don't wear ball caps on the trail I think it's a missed opportunity not to put some reinforcement shaping material or a wire in the bill.

@bird.1980 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Frozen, any update on your injuries from doing the A.T. or is everything about back to normal?

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I'm actually back to normal now. Thank goodness! My knees took about 9 months to recover and I started taking glucosamine vitamins for joint health. Hope that helps!

@bird.1980 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures great to hear. Just 2nd ACL surgery in 20 years today. Ive gotten 500mi in on AT from section hiking. (Grayson last section) looking forward to getting back on it next summer.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Spend sometime in Maine. It's beautiful.

@dapopohiking4339 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Frozen this Anthony I came up with the trail name DaPoPo lol since I am in law enforcement. I created a channel for my blogging. I am the one who messaged ya a few weeks ago about going on my first hike in Arkansas. Just wanted to let you know how much you inspired me to pursue this new world of hiking and backpacking thanks!!!

@micbernier6403 Жыл бұрын

hi Frozen, do you still got the visp? do you still love it? Thanks :)

@FrozensAdventures Жыл бұрын

So far so good with it. I haven't wet out yet but it's really only had one good test.

@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE 2 жыл бұрын

What ever happen to the light heart gear jacket? The helium2 is to small. I have both but I think I prefer the one wind hammock poncho.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

When I looked last they had changed the fabric.

@dewaynekinder7713 Жыл бұрын

Quick question if you will please help. My feet dry and crack to the point of bleeding. I noticed you always use foot balm. Does it work well if so what is the name and where can I purchase. Thank you

@FrozensAdventures Жыл бұрын

It was a brand called RocketPure. Haven't been able to find it anywhere but this has the same ingredients it looks like: amzn.to/3jdT7Of Put it on at lunch or night wait a little bit then shove your foot in a dress sock or something as to not get it on your sleeping bag / quilt.

@rolytech212 2 жыл бұрын

Frozen, are you going to use the skirt with that?😎 Zpack skirt?

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

More than likely yes but not in the summer months.

@rolytech212 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures Great Videos. Keep it up. I watch them all

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Cheers

@OneNvrKnoz 2 жыл бұрын

Is gortex too heavy nowadays? Seems like it was a superior fabric compared to these in terms of durability and water resistance

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with gortex just not a big fan. It is twice as heavy usually which isn't a big deal to me if it keeps me dry.

@barondavis5692 2 жыл бұрын

Gore Tex- very effective but heavy and hot (not very breathable), compared to visp.

@unclerojelio6320 2 жыл бұрын

How does it compare to the Zpacks Vertice?

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

From what I'm hearing it's pretty similar but less expensive. Fit is more relaxed on the Visp

@unclerojelio6320 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures 👍

@barondavis5692 2 жыл бұрын

New threads? I see a SHUG Tshirt.

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Woo buddy!

@idrissamorehouse5776 2 жыл бұрын

With all due respect = for the prices of these jackets - having to re-apply the water repellent really isnt acceptable (at least not in the first year ?!) Def would love to see a vid comparing the virtues of these lightweights as oppose to a tougher midweight material like the midweight models of Arcteryx -seems that the problem w/ lightweights is they’re liable to get punctured alot easier ? Right now im using a MAMMUT lightweight i got on sale but it doesnt have pitzips so its only for winter -Last few years of been buying whatever is on sale and once its beat down it gets replaced BUT THEN THERE’s the question of creating waste?!? Ugh!!

@bengunderson82 2 жыл бұрын

Shug, FTW

@BackcountryTreks 2 жыл бұрын

Helium 2 is junk save your money. Wets out in no time. Good video frozen!🤙

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@ddff5242 2 жыл бұрын

Is anyone else skeptical on the specs of the visp jacket? More specifically the 20,000mm H₂0 Waterproof combined with the 75,000 g/m²/24hr. breathability? All major brands dont even come close to that breathability rating... In otherwords, how can a cottage company with smaller research resources blow out gore tex breathability ratings along with a competitive waterproofness. I just find it hard to believe....

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

I am super skeptical. But so far so good. Hood needs work for sure!

@advanturecantstop901 2 жыл бұрын

how much did you pay? i got my for $20

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Where in the world did you get your VISP for $20

@advanturecantstop901 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrozensAdventures not same brand but i say my is very good quality..and i use always..but they already up price..market system..when they get spot they up price..

@HBRDynamics 2 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail reminds me of the pointing spiderman meme

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree!

@nghiado4801 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please take 1 months off from work and hike some long distance then give us a full review abt this jacket ASAP? What are we supposed to do now??? 🤣

@FrozensAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely 😂 will you write a letter to my boss explaining this