FIRST LOOK - WA-1B All-Tube Opto Compressor | Warm Audio SHOOTOUT + Stems
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00:00 - Automatic Setting
03:20 - Manual Setting
07:56 - Recording Jazz Vocals WRONG
17:17 - Noticeable differences?
18:30 - Comparison
21:10 - Mixing With Compression
29:52 - Honest Opinion
33:10 - Mixing With Compression 2
45:00 - Final Remarks
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
What are some of your favourite compressors? Share below!
@SheldonGoode 8 ай бұрын
My fav is the LA-2A went #1 with it twice Donell Jones/U know what's up and Ruff Endz/No more😎
@JordiCristau 8 ай бұрын
The Pianist and the recording of the Session
@andreirlmeier 8 ай бұрын
Alesis dirty six dirty
@JordiCristau 8 ай бұрын
inward connections Brute II or TreeAudio LCT1. Pete Place BAC500. EL distressor,
@ismailfardane3207 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if im doing something wrong but i use an 11 76 on practically anything bass snare vocals(and la-2a) guitars i only use the dbx 160 for the bass drum and the fairchild for my drum bus but then it depends on the style of music
@antcall6779 8 ай бұрын
Finally!!!!! Been waiting for this 😁🤘 great as always warren!
@Producelikeapro 7 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much!
@delmixedit 8 ай бұрын
It's subtle. The Warm has it's signature sound that I've noticed after owning several of their products. For 1/3 of the price I'll definitely be getting one!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!!
@mumbles215 8 ай бұрын
You’re better off getting a distresser for that money. It will regain value much better but also be much more flexible.
@nicefish10 8 ай бұрын
I second the opinion above…. Get a Distressor instead…. People will also take you more seriously with the. Distressor.
@JBrm 7 ай бұрын
Everyone knows to get a distressor, but those are just sooo ugly 😅
@chicnwafflesband Ай бұрын
I’ve had the opportunity to use the CL1B many times. I gave a WA1B and I’m completely impressed with the way it sounds and the quality of the build. It sounds amazingly as close as you can get at an economical price.
@arthur.monticelli 8 ай бұрын
Warren, we love your content! Please don't ever stop!!🤩🤩
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much
@johnisrael5183 8 ай бұрын
Well a Big Thanks to WA Audio for caring about the Home Producer I think SSL get further with the Home Producer by being willing to make their products more affordable, Warm is on its on its way to becoming as big as dbx
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much John! I really appreciate it
@MrMusic-nd5to 8 ай бұрын
You're the master Warren! Another outstanding video! The WA-1B sounds fantastic! 🎸
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much! Glad you enjoyed the demo!
@DirtyRed 8 ай бұрын
That song is so beautiful she sang. Man I need that in my playlist asap. Wow
@Producelikeapro 7 ай бұрын
Yes, wonderful singer
@ZilaMike 8 ай бұрын
As always, you`re doing a fantastic job ! Also, between them, i couldn`t care less, the warm is perfect for anyone .
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@adambradley3284 8 ай бұрын
28:30 you nailed it. I listened back with my eyes closed so many times and could no longer hear a difference.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing! I appreciate you listening through the video
@theCarouselPainter 5 ай бұрын
Crazy enough i almost like the WA better on this section.. It's very subtle but it squishes some of these low ends.
@neilfaulkner575 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Warren! So excited to learn of this affordable version of a classic. I am in the UK and have just ordered one from Thomann (who seem to be the only retailer sourcing to the UK right now). Cant wait to get this into my workflow. Always appreciate your clearly honest reaction to gear. Respect!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Please let us know how you get on!
@ProducerStefanSchnabel 8 ай бұрын
AWESOME PRODUCT!
@trapboihustle5009 8 ай бұрын
Awesome content as usual. Job well done thanks 👏🏿👏🏿
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@FromTheHipp 8 ай бұрын
i track through my distressor on opto mode with the tube setting on to emulate an LA2a/CL1B. pretty cool seeing Warm make an emulation. an affordable option for people to improve their sound. i support it.
@checkitout611 8 ай бұрын
Opto Comp by Audio-Scape is another awesome one in this genre. Has for sure this similar vibe.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@aaroneschenburg4018 8 ай бұрын
@@checkitout611how do you fancy it? I don't like the sound of this wa1b at all. The cl1b is butter. I own the audio scape stay level plus comps and am interested in the opto. I really don't like the upper mid distortion of the warm audio and hope the audio scape is better. The cl1b isn't available these days.
@checkitout611 8 ай бұрын
@@aaroneschenburg4018 I love it. It obviously isn't a CL1B but it does the opto thing. I like it that it doesn't have all the other dialing in options personally. It's an LA-2A clone so it does that "thing" (distortion should not be an issue) like you would expected. It doesn't "drive" the signal like other compressors. It's been perfect for me and I use it especially on vocals and bass. I also use / have their buss compressor and 2 matched EQP-A's for mastering. They just make really good gear IMO. If you didn't like they do take returns.
@kamenbiz 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I think I’m sold on that Wa1b … Almost identical is good enough for us home studio producers!
@papa_da_engineer 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely marvelous, going to have to add the wa - to my to get list 🎉🎉
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@leefchapman 8 ай бұрын
That's pretty damn close! Amazing.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@thomasvandalen7103 8 ай бұрын
I bought a Bae 10dc last month, also very colourful when you drive the output on vocals!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
I have a pair of those! Really great
@jaymanhire 8 ай бұрын
Great comparison. Nice work, thank you.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much!
@uriel-heavensguardian8949 8 ай бұрын
Love how you put all gear though the test!!!!!!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
@user-yo6ji2er1u 8 ай бұрын
impressive...very similar but with the settings you've selected...i actually prefer the sound of the WA...so much more in your face and focused. Also, "We didnt deserve it..." I hear and know that message....Thanks for all You do Warren!....Godbless
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing your opinion
@anthemmakersmusic 8 ай бұрын
Its definitely a great unit!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@JoelWard1 8 ай бұрын
I had this video on full screen and got so sucked into listening that after opening my eyes, I instantly pressed cmd+s as I saw Pro Tools on my screen. Reflexes, man... But yeah, whatever. Time to grab a WA-1B. Sold.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Haha I’ve done the same thing many times!!
@stephenfleming8030 8 ай бұрын
Warm are knocking it out the park with their products. And videos like this just serve to illustrate that at least with some brands of 'clones', the percieved difference between them is no greater than the difference between two otherwise identical name brand units, such is the nature of tolerences between components. Excellent video. A methodically consistent and fair comparison with a real world everyday usage example. If only all comparisons were this diligent!
@whisperthiefmusic 8 ай бұрын
Warren just chilling with 3 awesome singers and great songs :) The Warm unit sounds great though!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much
@busyworksbeats 8 ай бұрын
That Boi got soul 🤯🔥
@fantaztikbeatz 8 ай бұрын
Yeah he does
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Yes! Wonderful singer
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Indeed! Great singer
@Hello-pl2qe 8 ай бұрын
Great singers you got there.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much
@TheMystro242 8 ай бұрын
WA-1B All-Tube Opto Compressor DOPE DOPE
@gatorbullproductions6246 8 ай бұрын
Great comparison, Warm Audio 1B worth buying.
@AnnikaBovender 8 ай бұрын
Glad I could help out with the vocals on this video! Thanks for having me in the studio Warren!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Great work! Thanks ever so much!
@jaydominikoski6264 5 ай бұрын
Your so right, we didn't deserve it
@jameslifetimelearner Ай бұрын
Great for us to hear you! We are great full to be so Blessed are we not.
@byus6928 8 ай бұрын
def hear a difference. cl1b sounds amazing.
@mannysmiclocker 8 ай бұрын
Pretty incredible and so musical! This is going to help so many new artist that can’t afford big time studio rates to achieve quality vocals ❤
@DoctorMandible 8 ай бұрын
$1,200 just for one piece of hardware - which is readily achieved with free VST plugins - is hardly the home studio breakthrough you're describing.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much Manny
@JYOUNGSFL 8 ай бұрын
@@DoctorMandiblelol $25/mo at Sweetwater 🤷🏽♂️ sounds like a no brainer to me. Plus nothing beats analog hardware. Real Tubes!
@FromTheHipp 8 ай бұрын
@@DoctorMandible you're wildly incorrect
@Intrinsic.Recording 8 ай бұрын
Really? We're talking a T*BET*CH here. Plugins have come a long way. But I'd track through that warm. Print with it. Commit! And it'd be better than any plugin. $1200 for a tube opto comp that sounds great? A main comp for acoustic gtrs and vocals? Bass? A flippin' steal man. People are getting spoiled nowadays with cheap stuff. Thing is, most of it, sounds...er...cheap. This sounds I gotta say expensive. Tube gear isn't easy to do either. IMHO, warm did a great job. I'm kinda shocked at how good it sounds. Maybe go look at a manley if you think this is expensive.@@DoctorMandible
@DirtyRed 8 ай бұрын
Warm has done it again. Gonna go ahead and add this in front of my WA2A before I hit the Apollo. Already running the WA47 Mic so this should really make my vocals shine even better and for a fraction of the cost of an actual tube tech.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@billyhughes9776 8 ай бұрын
I can hear a difference. To my hears it's subtle but the original sounds more clear on top and cleaner overall. A 1/4 of the price,...wow -- the Warm does sound very good -- Fantastic demo -- thanks Warren!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing your opinion!
@gearslasher7383 8 ай бұрын
I downloaded the stems and panned them left and right and watched the gonio meter. It's amazing, how close they are, but it's more the gain processing itself than the frequency response. Looping small portions I could phase cancel it to -30 dB difference, which is less than 3% difference. I'm pretty sure, one could get a better matching between the two units by accurately setting threshold and ratio to the same values. Trusting the numbers on potentiometer scale should be possible and it would be great, but in reality, pots do differ quite a lot. Thanks for the stems, Warren, they are awesome!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain your process
@projektgemineye748 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!! Im in the market for a nice compressor. Im a big fan of WARM Audio stuff....so im thinking this maybe the way to go. Thanks again for doing this...its extremely helpful.
@fantaztikbeatz 8 ай бұрын
I'm thinking this is the way to go to
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Marvellous!@@fantaztikbeatz
@WisdomHouseCreative 8 ай бұрын
Great comparison! And a great lesson for hearing compression.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@_allcap 8 ай бұрын
The warm is darker in overall tone and the CL1B seems to have more dimension. For the price Warm did a great job.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Interesting that there are so many contradictory statements of how they sound here! Definitely shows that we all hear things so differently. Thanks ever so much
@_allcap 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing the comparison @@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
@@_allcapyou’re very welcome
@tom_k_d 8 ай бұрын
@@ProducelikeaproHi Warren, if you still have both at hand it would indeed be an interesting experiment to just exchange the tube set between these two, to take the tube quality out of the equation (a tube change being one of the rare things that could easily be 'fixed in post', meaning past purchase, on the WA).
@JorgeEgrejasFrancisco 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for such a detailed test, Warren. It’s evident the value of the two units and specially the WA1B for its cost. Nevertheless, I confess hearing a difference in sound between both units across all the video. To me, the CL1B is always more transparent and preserves more the vocals performance dynamics; the WA1B has always a longer sustain with a kind of (low)mids saturation, more pronounced on the first trackings. It seems that the WA1B has a much slower release time applicable on all ratios (and not just with 10:1 and above), but the exact technical reason will be for you to guess (I’m not an expert like you). As a side note I would like to congratulate the girl’s (Anneke?) performance in the video, which is a complete marvel; she is real superb 👏
@fredtimothy940 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate the comparison! The CL1B is a standby for sure. Personally I prefer the sound of the LCA 2B - it has a lot more consistent attack on every syllable, it doesn’t smear anything. But it’s expensive as all get out. Maybe Warm can do that one next.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@Techoftomorrow 5 ай бұрын
Great channel thank you
@Producelikeapro 5 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much
@ThaciaMoniqueOliveira2 4 ай бұрын
Great video as always...
@Producelikeapro 4 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much
@dzezydzerk 8 ай бұрын
great video ! please make blind full mix test next time for those who think that different is so big 😀
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
That’s a marvellous idea!
@TeikevanBaden 7 ай бұрын
Damn, Warm Audio did something amazing again. We are spoiled nowadays.
@AtTheSourceStudios 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha CUT YOU OFF IN YOUR PRIME 😂 you did you really did. Those are the funniest moments in the studio cutting the vocalist off mid take lol
@patrickalphenaar 8 ай бұрын
Sound pretty similar! I love Warm Audio, i have two EQP’s and the 2MPX and pretty happy with that. Maybe this unit is next………. Nice vid! Thanks a lot! Cheers
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@user-is4si7qx5f 8 ай бұрын
dang it, another piece of gear for my Sweetwater wish list
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Haha thanks for sharing
@christianschneider1706 8 ай бұрын
I've had the tube tech some years ago. And the TT has a creamyness to it that's hard to explain, even the Softube has it. I don't think the WA has it. Compressor characteristics sure, but I think the WA is to grabby as well, the TT sounds to me a bit more open and natural. But really small differences, the price difference is bigger lol.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing, the tests we did and others too suggest that the WA isn’t as grabby, after all the attack isn’t quite as super fast
@KlemenKotar 8 ай бұрын
Yeah! He's got that Ray LaMontagne vibe :)
@Producelikeapro 7 ай бұрын
Yes! Marvellous!
@erickgutierrez5798 8 ай бұрын
Close , Cl1b sounds better , but for the fraction of Price , Fire !!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing your opinion
@AmiliaCaraMia 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like it's in the ballpark to me 🤷 Past that, I couldn't care less. If it's doing something cool then I can't complain. I picked up a real Cl1b last year and it's great on pianos and synths actually. The attack / release times can do some serious reshaping of sounds with fast attacks. Hopefully the WA version can get this style of compressor into the hands of more people. Very cool 🙌
@maco34576 4 ай бұрын
thanks for not telling me what to think and only showing us and letting us make the decision
@Producelikeapro 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for appreciating that!!
@relaxmax6808 8 ай бұрын
to paraphrase you in a comical way, I would say that between the CL1B and the Wa1B: "the subtle difference between the 4000K...$"😄
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@thomasvandalen7103 8 ай бұрын
My schwerkraftmachine from Tegeler audio is also killer on so many things. So many tubes, it sounds so sweet.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much! We love Tegeler
@gbsrecords 8 ай бұрын
I second that opinion on the Tegeler. And the fact that it's completely recallable and automated via its plugin is a game changer. I write automation into the compressor, changing the input, the ratio, the attack, etc, throughout a mix or while tracking. Insane. And the ability to change the detector circuit EQ and high pass; unbelievably useful! Sounds *amazing* as well!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Yes, great company!@@gbsrecords
@1loveMusic2003 8 ай бұрын
You got it lookin like a stereo pair. Pretty close!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much
@captainslapem 8 ай бұрын
Damn that WA is nice! I don't hear anything immediately that easily seperates them.
@jesslucio3104 8 ай бұрын
Finally!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Marvellous
@Notmuchherereallytbh 8 ай бұрын
just ordered 1
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@alextorchio5625 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Warren for your time, as always! it seems a little bit harsher the Warm Audio, but it's not 3700$... Great second choice for who doesn't wanna wait one year and a half for a Tubethech or who can't spend that amount of money for a Cl1b. I have the Tubetech and it makes any mic better, my Neumann U87 ai now is totally not harsh on the upper mids with every voice I track.
@torocruz1192 8 ай бұрын
Your U87 ai was never harsh to begin with that’s all in your head. 😂✌🏽
@alextorchio5625 8 ай бұрын
@@torocruz1192I know, that's why I spent 2500€ to buy it😂, but the enhancement on 10 k and the grainy sound of the u87 it seems to be mitigated by the the valve quality of Tubetech, the result is a better vocal tracking on the overall sound, not just the dynamic.
@akamoosh218 8 ай бұрын
@audioscape were waiting on you!
@jdc6681 8 ай бұрын
Warren, thank you for another great, in-depth review / shootout! Would you recommend the WA-1B over the WA-2A for smooth vocal compression application?
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
I’m the wrong person to ask as I don’t like LA2A’s very much haha so I would always go with a CL1B!
@jdc6681 8 ай бұрын
@@Producelikeapro Ha!..did not expect that answer! Thanks much!
@Joey-rp5vg 8 ай бұрын
Waoh that was an awesome review and shoot-out. Maybe the Warm doesn't have to be exactly the same as the tube-tech, it just needs to be good.........corny, I know, but true. Thanks very much for the great video
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Joey! Glad you enjoyed the video! I really appreciate it
@Therealsmashavelli 8 ай бұрын
Great Review 👏 singer reminds me of John Legend
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Douglas76235 6 ай бұрын
maravlha de teste!🙏
@Producelikeapro 5 ай бұрын
Gratidão
@realraven2000 8 ай бұрын
Sounds great, I saw some other reviews today and I think the WA reacts a little faster, so if you are matching knobs, slow down that attack knob.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Actually the attack on the Warm is slower than the Tube Tech
@realraven2000 8 ай бұрын
@@Producelikeapro ok! Maybe i got mixed up with release….
@JakeLewisReal 5 ай бұрын
@@realraven2000the release on the warm is also slower. Watch end of video he turns the knobs all the way and on his units the warm is slower than the tube tech for both attack and release on fastest settings
@carl-magnusconsitt7389 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for a very detailed and accurate comparison with different vocalists in solo and in the mix. Thorough and very professional test! My own opinion is; very close..but... Warmaudio has a little more pronounced "Carnhill transformer" character" in its tone compared to the softer, creamier TubeTech. Possibly around 4.8- 5khz. We're talking more than "experience" "tone" character" than frequencies here! Has Warmaudio possibly thrown their "carnhill transformer" into the signal chain? Thanks for a great review!
@hauntedbytheliving1175 8 ай бұрын
It’s funny you say this… I always feel like Carnhill translates to a little “harder” & brighter, perhaps less euphonic sound than say Sowter
@TheSakuraGumiLTD 8 ай бұрын
Not quite as forward... but only fractionally, which I think can be brought back with a tiny bit of the parallel of the original signal
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@elektriceye 8 ай бұрын
They do sound close. But the WA sounds brighter and thinner and more mid scooped to my ears. Imo, you get what you pay for, and 1k for the wa gets you a good comp!
@iyoran4838 8 ай бұрын
i think a tube swap could do wonders to this warm audio unit, since it's also has a good build quality
@elektriceye 8 ай бұрын
@@iyoran4838 it might, but I think where WA cuts costs is the xformer. As with a lot of audio gear. If an xformer swap was possible, it would likely get you 90% there.
@toonertik 8 ай бұрын
Wallet says no.. no more gear.. no no no.. Always enjoy your content ;0)))
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@robmillisTW2 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic. The Warm is definitely a valid choice - I wonder if two different TubeTech units side by side would actually have as many differences?
@legacyShredder1 8 ай бұрын
My two tube techs are pretty far apart. There is no way I could pair them on a stereo bus.
@robmillisTW2 8 ай бұрын
@@legacyShredder1 as an organist I get this all the time: is the Nord B3 sound better than the Hammond Suzuki one? Or the Yamaha one? And they'll pee and moan about them all. Wheel in two B3s and even through the same Leslie they'll be wildly variable and the differences between the various modern clones won't even be a thing!
@legacyShredder1 8 ай бұрын
@@robmillisTW2 I've got so many classic gear pieces that are identical but sound different. I've got microphones that are supposed to be stereo pairs, but they're different. Many of my vintage preamps are closer in sound to each other, but they can still vary a lot. Many of my compressors are just off the charts different to the other. I've got vintage stereo compressors that one side is wildly different to the other. At the end of the day we're making music and art not science projects. A lot of the gear that gets lusted after today was used back in the day just happened to be available at the time. The musicians are special, not so much the gear.
@operasinger2126 8 ай бұрын
@@legacyShredder1 Yes. A million-dollar studio won't make a bad song good.
@legacyShredder1 8 ай бұрын
@@operasinger2126 I'll 2nd that motion with proof: The Shaggs, My Pal Foot Foot.
@NacekO 6 ай бұрын
wonderful singers :)
@Producelikeapro 4 ай бұрын
Yes, truly exceptional
@Intrinsic.Recording 8 ай бұрын
All I can say? D*mn. Great job Bryce and Warm! Thanks for they great comparison.
@hisroyalsucculence 8 ай бұрын
Warm was a bit more harsh sounding soloed, which was confirmed by your frequency snapshots. I actually preferred it in the mix however as it was a bit more forward.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@nicefish10 8 ай бұрын
Front part f the word ‘didn’t’ was mushier down low on the Warm.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so,much for sharing!
@yoyolebatteur 8 ай бұрын
There's a blind test with the tracks on FunkyABX and approximately 50% get it wrong;)
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Haha genius! Yes, the comments here are very contradictory, some people hear one thing and the others the exact opposite!
@timbrown7652 8 ай бұрын
LOL of course they did!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
@@timbrown7652yes! Indeed
@ProducerMC 8 ай бұрын
If you can upgrade the tubes this might be beastly
@cowabungaw9958 8 ай бұрын
interesting the WA-1B power lamp has a flicker. Time will tell how reliable the warm will fare. As some other commenters, I too like my UAD Softube plugin.
@fenderbender6664 8 ай бұрын
The warm has a led and the tubetech a “real” lightbulb… that’s why you see a flicker…
@nicolasblanckaert2035 8 ай бұрын
I... Prefer t0he Warm ? Like... It's... Warmer ? Joke beside I hear a little difference and love the Warm... oh yeah allright you said it HAHA nice I heard the difference it brightens my day for real, thanks ever so much Warren ! great performers you got here by the way It makes me wonder, why are the waveforms different from a comp to another ? I know about compression but can't seem to understand why it hanges waveforms so much on a vertical axis, if you know what I mean... ?
@musical_o3 4 ай бұрын
Night & day.. listening through headphones u can hear clearly the Cl1b is warmer, more high mid is audible in the WA
@snotnosedpunk7995 8 ай бұрын
Bit more open on the top end on the Warm Audio than the CL1B. More Saturation on the CL1B. But it's very close. Much closer than the Tubesessor from Heritage Audio I would say, at a much cheaper price too.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing! Again very interesting that everyone heard them quite differently
@arrivalsband9201 8 ай бұрын
great vocals à10:00
@anthemmakersmusic 8 ай бұрын
The woman with the glasses has a pretty voice!
@anthemmakersmusic 8 ай бұрын
She sounds so much like Joss Stone smiling!
@anthemmakersmusic 8 ай бұрын
and she is holding back Warren smiling.
@AnnikaBovender 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@Producelikeapro 7 ай бұрын
Annika is a wonderful singer!
@adamphillips6747 8 ай бұрын
Is Annika(?) available for demo work? Great voice.
@EudoxeP 8 ай бұрын
Seems like the TubeTech has more compression in the low mid WA sounds more nasal and don't have that smooth lows, as the plugin :(
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing your opinion
@RockmannMusic 3 ай бұрын
I mean, everything hardware is better than a plugin
@AndyKub 8 ай бұрын
Well done Warren! And you did speculate that comparing another CL1B might yield different results. This is true, but not only due too age difference of both units, but of the fact that new electronic components have tolerances. Though today's tolerances are tighter than those of the past, you might only hear the difference when you do a null test, that would be fun too, no? And, another rabbit hole worth investigating would be tube rolling some of the 12AX7s and 12AU7s. Gold Lions are more costly than JJs, or even Mullards might prove to sound better in these units! Long plates vs short? I have the WA2As and have some NOS (New old stock) in them I "borrowed" from an amp I need refurbished, but I am tempted to get either the Mullards or Gold Lions...
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much Andy for the amazing comment! I really appreciate it
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
I would definitely be I rogues to see how swapping out components could improve the units
@AndyKub 8 ай бұрын
After years of listening to your wonderful videos it's the least I could do 😀@@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks very much!@@AndyKub I appreciate your support
@kosmilproduction9304 8 ай бұрын
So damn curious to hear warm vs heritage…TBH warm did a great job for all the affordable gears and of course the sound you hear is not the sound everyone else hear.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, comparisons like this are pretty huge for us
@kosmilproduction9304 8 ай бұрын
@@Producelikeapro you’re the best warren
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
You Rock!@@kosmilproduction9304
@hakanjohnson2726 8 ай бұрын
Yes the Warm vs Tbesessor from Heritage as ”i think” the HA will be a different beast but thats me guessing. We use HA 609 and Britstrip and the Ram 2000 amd love them on certain things BUT we have a Neve version of the 609 and it has slightly more ”heft” so again clones are good but original gear unfortunately beats clones everytime.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
@@hakanjohnson2726thanks ever so much for sharing! I will say that the BAE 1073s I have sound as good if not better than my originals. I think that’s a fairly well accepted belief
@GrumpleSenior 8 ай бұрын
Neve 5045, Distressor, CL1B and Shelford channel combo for my live vocal chain but I also have a Locomotive Audio 14B which is stunning.
@adieltm 8 ай бұрын
Great to see you work on a gospel record Warren
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Would LOVE to!
@kevoladams1454 8 ай бұрын
I like the WA-1B on the male vocal the add brightness rather then the cl1b sounds pretty similar. But the warm is doing something I like. on a blink fold comparison I don't think no one could tell. Two analog compressors are not going to sound identical attack and release etc.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing
@garyh1296 8 ай бұрын
The tube tech has more headroom and breadth but doesn't really warrant the 3x cost. The WA just has a slightly congested sound. If I had the money, tube tech, if on a budget, then I would be more than happy with the WA.
@mikesnydermusic 8 ай бұрын
Warm has a signature pattern of having very present low mids and a dip at 5k, see it in the wa47 and wa2a. Not necessarily a bad thing, I liked how the vocals sounded better solo’d with Lyndcraft, but was intrigued how vocals meshed with track with Warm. Would bet a good tube swap combo could change everything for either though 😆 Great video as always
@hakanjohnson2726 8 ай бұрын
It’s ”LYDKRAFT” if we are gonna nitpock on sound vs price etc The warm sounds great and no one will ever hear anything else in a finished production! We have both and for testing purposes we borrowed the WA and then it stayed as both our CL1 and WA1b has a place in a serious studio.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing Mike!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing your real world opinion!@@hakanjohnson2726
@oneminuteblues 8 ай бұрын
Been using a pair of CL1A for years… lately though, moved over to the TubeTech SMC-2B (a stereo multi-band on acoustic and electric guitar, acoustic piano, vocals and drums) Way more control over frequency bands. Also way more expensive.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much!
@chrispschultz 8 ай бұрын
From the KZfaq A/B comparison the Warm sounds like it’s going through a side chain and not compressing the highs above 6k. I definitely hear a bump around 12.5k. It sounds like CL is compressing more evenly across the whole frequency spectrum. This could just be the difference in transformers. To me the Warm is a little harsh at the very top. Thanks for a great video.
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
@user-mj3ir4mk9z 8 ай бұрын
bollocks..
@nugznmugz 8 ай бұрын
To my ear there’s definitely a difference in the top end. The CL has a brighter tone, with less of the low mids, while the Warm is the opposite. Both sound good to me though.
@kenntakac5034 8 ай бұрын
I have to say Warm really nailed the colour!
@Rhuggins 8 ай бұрын
Strong disagree
@RockmannMusic 8 ай бұрын
Yep, they did a good paint job on their enclosure
@baercew 8 ай бұрын
Quite a big diffrence between them in the high mids/low highs, CL1B sounds a lot warmer and rounded off, WA-1B seems a bit bright around ~2-5k ish. CL1B Sounds better to my ears, not sure if it's 4x the price better though hahaha
@ridinglow6732 8 ай бұрын
$1,199.00 for the warm
@adamphillips6747 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like every warm product I’ve heard. It’s, eh a little brittle in the upper reg. But for some one starting out it might do the job. The UAD plug is on the same plane as the warm.
@johnnybregar 8 ай бұрын
So funny. In another review people were saying the exact opposite. Too much low mids.
@baercew 8 ай бұрын
@@adamphillips6747 would be interesting to compare them to the plugin yes!
@CreativeMindsAudio 8 ай бұрын
Love that you went into so much detail with this comparison! It is close, but as you showed with the EQ (ugh why’d you use the waves Paz though?! Why not fab filter pro q3 for a much more detailed curve?) there are tonal differences. Warm is a bit… warmer? Likely in how it compresses. I don’t see this as a good thing though as i often remove lower mids from my vocals to have it sit better in my mix. So that means more work for me. Seems like the tube tech will enhance my mixes and save time. Appreciate this kind of shootout to highlight those differences.
@legacyShredder1 8 ай бұрын
I have two of the CL1B comps for when I'm tracking two singers at the same time. I don't know the age of either of my units although one appears to be significantly older than the other. They both track differently. One is less aggressive in the low mids while the other has a slight boost. The one with the dip in the mids actually clamps down on the highs more, which you would expect from the other one. At the end of the day they're both good. I probably wouldn't have any issues whatsoever with the Warm.
@CreativeMindsAudio 8 ай бұрын
@@legacyShredder1 good to know! I will say that this is probably the most accurate clone warm has done. Glad they are stepping up their quality still feels off somehow. I’ve never used an actual unit only the plugins. I have used actual 1176s though and the warm is not great there. Though everything they make is a bit better than most plugins. I would also worry about the build quality and how long the parts will last because I’ve heard a lot of stories about their other products.
@metalman3227 8 ай бұрын
Waves PAZ is the standard in most Mastering Rooms
@Producelikeapro 7 ай бұрын
Yes, as has been said the Paz has been a standard for so many years, there's others of course! Whatever you personally prefer would be great!
@curly_ 8 ай бұрын
That shows that units around 1000 are absolutly worth the same as the 4K+ Units .
@adamphillips6747 8 ай бұрын
Worth the same? Nah. Re-sell value is nowhere close.
@J-DUB-F1 8 ай бұрын
That was fun!...... I gotta tell ya, while my ears are nowhere near as finely tuned as yours, I don't hear a big obvious difference in normal use ???. I've rented CL1-B's numerous times over the years. They always took a bit of tweaking for me to get what I wanted, but when you get there it's fantastic!. With Warm Audio stuff I hear a lot more obvious differences with the WA-76 and an original Rev D 1176, The WA has a more obvious grittyness to it. With the female Jazz voc the WA had a bit more edge in the upper mids?, but it didn't bother me. For the male voc at 33:10 I thought without the high-pass, the CL-1B had a touch more low-mid warmth. But with the high-pass, the WA-1B difference is so small I don't know if it's worth mentioning??. I'd love to hear it on bass. The WA-1B doesn't show an obvious mechanical difference until you smash it. Could that be down to quality of components?, transformer, tubes?. Is the real thing worth the $3k-4k difference??......my spicy take is, no, imho 💁♂
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing!!
@J-DUB-F1 8 ай бұрын
@@Producelikeapro and your comment of, if the WA-1B had a fancy paint job and didn't say Warm Audio, people would have no misgivings. Like if it were called, Forest Tone Creations, with knobs made of redwood, people would be ooooh'ing and ahhhh'ing 😏
@Doctaj54 8 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@AndyKub 8 ай бұрын
I thought I should add this about tube rolling, since I don't know how many ppl will read it. First of all, only replace a tube with one that is the same, ie 12AX7 with another 12AX7, etc. depending on the equipment you take it out of, you want to mark which socket you pulled for each tube. There are a few tubes which can be exchanged, but make sure you talk to the designer if it will work ok. Chances are that as in the case of Warm Audio, whoever designed the circuit may have chosen a particular tube for the job. In case of a preamp with 2 channels, if it's fairly new, the builder probably matched the tubes. Even brand new tubes out of the box need to be tested as they will vary. That's why you'll notice most places you buy tubes from offer matched pairs or matched quads, whatever the case is. I got a pair of WA2As some time ago. I couldn't get both at the same time, but if I could, Warm did offer a matched pair. This applies to tubes in the audio path, although some claim that replacing other tubes makes a difference too. I haven't noticed a difference when replacing a rectifier tube, for instance. Have fun!
@Producelikeapro 8 ай бұрын
Thanks ever so much for sharing this information with us
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