its your patch how much did you paypal fatshark for this one 👀

I was GENUINELY hoping we'd see hot shots, melta, longlas anything that wasn't a variant

The new Marks seem to primarily be about filling out the remaining weapons which had none. As an example, the force sword and stubbers went through the same thing. Was just 1 weapon at launch, now its 3 per category. Same is happening with the shovels. And I don't mind it cause they feel really damn nice to use. Regarding Brunt's, they addressed it pre-patch I'm pretty sure. Just a compromise so people don't get booted out of games due to forced server update. I'm not that fussed about there not being new-new weapons yet. If what we got feels sufficiently different, which in my opinion it does, then all is well. Thats not to say i dont want the doomslayer shotguns, the bolt pistol or the melta but I'm not that fussed, the new content is excellent. The map, especially, is really good and so is the addition of stims. I really don't think Fatshark deserves any hate on this one, the updates since class rework have all been quite excellent imo.

What's frustrating about the chainshovel is that if they made the chain bigger so it stuck out the stab might look cool.

NEW EVIS IS JUST WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED; THE EXE SWORD. NOW GIVE ME THE ABILITY TO DUAL-SLOT MELEE WEAPONS AND A SHIELD AND I WILL SCREAM ABOUT A WATERY BINT!

Thanks for the new Heavy Chainsword Reginald! This update would have never been possible without you (the leading authority on chain weapons)

I haven't tested out all the new chain weapons yet, but I will say the new Eviscerator feels amazing to use, especially with cleave-based blessings to get a really nice horde clear / special and elite sniping hybrid. The fact that most of the new weapons are shovels though is a little... icky, to say the least. I'm guessing it's to sort of appeal to the Krieg roleplayers?

Btw regi, the lights on MK4 chaxe now stun maulers/ragers mid combo. Makes it insanely safe to challenge them even without revving up. The rev heavy does seem a little more vertical to me than pre-patch. Also, bloodletter applies max bleed stacks even if you dodge cancel the rev attack. It's quite value.

what the hell is that inventory my man? clean up!

They explained why stuff wasn't instantly in brunts, they appear once all the old instances are closed as otherwise people might get booted from games, or something like that.

I HATE the RNG wheel of misfortune merry-go-round of bloody tears that is Brunt's Armory to Hadron and back. Why are there power level 301 weapons in the shop for me? Emperor's gifts are useless. Hadron always wrecks stuff that happens to be high base stats. Christ. The gameplay and co-op with friends is keeping me here but hell if I hate the process of trying new weapon builds.

I rolled two pretty solid Mk 12 Chaxes to mess with them. L3 bloodletter and L4 headtaker, 25% Carapace/Infested for perks on the one I'm running on my Zealot. I prefer the Mk12 for horde mgmt vs the Mk4 but then I run mostly axes and shovels, so it fits into that move set/play style. The zealot now has a shovel that goes Brrrr.

The patch notes specifically state that light cleave was cut to 0.01, so mark 4s will never go through enemies again. All the better, it was very awkward, and the push attack already covers for the low-right arc that the heavies have trouble reaching. Mine has both slaughterer and headtaker, so I have less incentive to use revved attacks over spamming lights which are very safe and match the DPS of waiting for a revved heavy (veteran). It kind of makes the standard chainsword obsolete as the new chaxe 4 performance has only the same minor attack angle weaknesses but many more strengths.

Absolutely loving the mk4 chain axe, my baby is FINALLY getting the love it deserves. Ran it with martydom zealot and weapon specialist vet, and it feels great and hits hard on both. Only took them a year to get it right 😩 😩 😩

personally i don't love the new chain axe, i don't even think it's bad but it kinda feels like another cadia chain sword, doesn't do anything unique but i do like the heavy overheads, they feel good. the old chaxe feels a lot better and the new map is amazing and i don't actually hate the shovels but for me the true star of the update is the new big chainsword. every swing feels so heavy i'm in love with it. i'm not a laspistol person but i like the new one better compared to the other one and the cowboy revolver is surprisingly fun

Though the thunkyness of the chainshovel is a bit annoying I think I'll like its moveset better overall. Its light for uncomplicated crowd control and heavy for single target damage. Great, simple.

I see the stuff in brunt's armory now. Didn't take them long to fix it. Still wtf, it's the first thing everyone will look for and it wasn't there?

I can say that the new heavy chainsword can easily hit 1 hit rev kills on Crushers. It is kinda insane in that regard. Taking a bit of getting used to since it isn't just H1, L2 spam for everything like the OG one. I absolutely love the OG heavy and the crusher but I feel (preliminary) that the new heavy chainsword outclasses both and probably the Ironhelm as well. Now that could all just be "new toy syndrome". At least all of them are very good, hard to ask for more than that tbh.

Pretty much only played vet last night, but I like the skill tree change we finally got. Feels in line with the other trees now, and was more or less able to recreate all my existing builds (just better than they were before). I may be in the minority but I like the shovels, like a lot. I find the "do extra damage as you wrench the spike back out of the heretic's head" mechanic to be quite satisfying. Edit: (I still REALLY want a hotshot volleygun though)

Oh yeah test a full rev into a bulwark. It works now! The idea with introducing cancels is that if you can cancel, you then backload the reward for the rev attacks. Eg the stagger on ragers happens only on the second tick of the light, so early dodge cancelling loses you the stagger - and the more backloaded the reward, the more you're incentivised to commit. This way you still are rewarded for finding time and space to get full revs - and you do need to make sure you have the stamina for activation cancels - but you choose the amount of commitment, and you no longer feel incredibly restricted in acting under pressure. The core issue with the old activation design is essentially that the downside of "what's the worst that can happen if i give up my ability to act or dodge for the next 2 seconds" is potentially enormous; the more chaotic the situation, the larger, and the harder to assess correctly. This automatically leads to very conservative rev usage. A chainaxe especially should be a weapon where your response to people turning up is "IM GOING TO PUT THIS IN YOUR FACE BROTHER" - and so that needs to be something that can conceivably be done under pressure. Particularly for chain axes, having lights that could potentially eat a dodge input in an intense situation even when you know the weapon is just not a risk other weapons have to take - and it's not like the chainaxe had a huge upside in other ways. I didn't have as much to do with these other than pressing hard for activations and stickies to be cancellable but have delayed benefits (though I did strongly push for speeding up those heavies because good lord they were arthritic before). But my hope is that this is a better space for activated and sticky attacks to be in in general - this works for force sword activations too, for example - and will make attacks of those kinds much more useful and feel like much more functional parts of the toolkit. Ultimately, before this patch almost no chain weapon was good because of its weapon special. In an ideal world I would move to a different model for activation weapons with rev being an input used midcombo and during attacks, but we do not live in a perfect world and this was the best fast solution.

TBH I just wish that one of ogryns shovels had a stab as a special, heavy, push, hell even a light. It would help distinguish the mks better.

I tried running chaxe before and frankly speaking, its "rewards" NEVER outweighed the risks. Slow, with difficult and inefficient horde management, pitiful cleave, lackluster damage and stagger. I can dance around each Rager/Bulwark/Crusher or I can grab something else and kill 3 of them in the same amount of time. And while I certainly COULD play with chaxe anyway, I play with randoms - shooting myself in the foot by basically using a needle-filled-sausage as my melee never felt like a good idea. Because its as good as preparing to fail the run before it even begins. I wonder if devs thought that to buff its "rewards" they'd have to add so many numbers, that its wiser to just reduce the risks.

Lord Inquisitor Reginald, did you already test the new heavy eviscerator?

That is weird that I am trying on zealot too but like one shot light attack to kill the thing that you need two, I wonder where is the different.

I was hoping for a 3-round burst-fire laspistol mark, but yeah the slow hard hitting laspistol is alright i guess. 😕

For crafting how about you can still upgrade the rarity but you can buy blessings

Still waiting for my 2 handed force sword goddamnit. It's also nice to see how the arrival of the new weapons immediately reminds everyone just how fucking awful the crafting system is, no matter how much fat guppy refuses to accept the fact.

I think the new revolver should have been a 6 shot to co inside with its reduced damage. With its very poor accuracy with only 5 shots its not worth using

Chainshovel!

I prefer the Mk XII because it's my favorite shovel.

I noticed someone said the thunder hammers changed their move sets slightly. Are we so back?

Mk12 chain axe with thrust 3 has the craziest heavy attacks. Its boss dps can be pretty good and it destroys elites. Its light attacks are an absolute joke but they can get the job done with headtaker.

Wwwwwhhhhhhhhoooooooooooo🎉 first here. Do you like the new version of the chain weapons

Hey Reginald what build are you using? I need a new Axe build!

They should offer you a job already to get chain things right

why do you keep so many guns like why not scrap them?

I was blown away on that first swing with the new chainaxe. The lights look and sound just so bad.

Hilarious that you were complaining so much in the beginning when all you had to do was wait 30 minutes for the server migration and youd be fine LMAO

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