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I am 100% sure that as a criticism for a movie "I knew the twist before it came." is way better than "I'm sure if I cared more, I would have gotten there." HAHAHA

Tbh, this is the only "Saw" film that was so bad it actually made me a little mad. It felt like a parody more than an actual Saw movie. But in hindsight, that makes total sense - because it was never supposed to be a Saw movie.

If the editing in the movie seems weird it's because whatever organization that monitors movies cracked down really hard and they even had to cut out a whole trap because of them

What I think they meant by the jigsaw didn’t target cops line is that jigsaw didn’t solely target cops, he went after a whole variety of people whereas shenck is only going for cops

I give spiral credit for trying something different. Jigsaw started to do that but then it reverted back to the twists we’d already seen done in previous films and created a storyline that doesn’t really fit with the timeline of the original films. (I understand there are videos and fan theories that point out how Logan does fit into the timeline but I stand by my comment on the jigsaw reaction that this twist was done better in previous movies.) I appreciate the killer this time around was an actual copycat who basically built on jigsaw’s legacy and ended up convincing himself he was doing the right thing. And I do like the idea of touching on police corruption. I also think a lot of the traps were better in this movie (the finger trap and hot wax trap were absolutely brutal.) But, spiral isn’t very good, the story is presented in an odd way, it is very clunky, which I think it’s mostly due to the editing. And William Shink being alive was a pretty obvious twist. I still think it’s better than saw 3d and jigsaw but that’s not saying much. Edited to add: someone commented that they wanted to replace all the Chris Rock scenes with Marty from Madagascar, I full support this idea.

I remember seeing this in theaters with my friend and when Chris Rock actually said “Jigsaw didn’t target cops” we just turned to each other and laughed in complete astonishment. Like what do you MEAN? Eric Mathews, Kerry, Hoffman, Strahm, Rigg, Perez, Tapp, Sing. Like WHAT?

Damn, I didn't know it was THAT bad! Chris Rock's performance and that terrible pig voice and the dialogue made it hilarious in the worst way. It was painful.

I think the pacing was def an issue. The other big part is its more of a spin-off than a sequel since we dont really get any recurring characters

For context: Darren has came out and said this was intended to get new fresh faces into the series and be a soft reboot with and easier to understand story. The idea also started because Chris Rock bought it up to the producers at a mutual friends wedding lol. It was also meant to come out in 2019 I THINK, then got delayed to 2020, but....that whole thing happened...so here they ar ein 2021 IMO having the star power of Chris Rock, 21 Savage and Sam Jackson is what hurt the film the most. Saw has always been a notoriously low budget series in general but jumping from that to having one of the most celebrated comedians, most celebrated black actors, and a current relevant rapper involved probably gave them a lot of power on what to do.

Daryn Lyn Bousman also directed this awesome musical horror called Repo! The Genetic Opera

I described the voice in this movie as an “elderly librarian” 😅 not scary at all

hey I just discovered your channel like two days ago and I've been obsessed!! love them

@Professor No Name Thank you for your Saw reactions. Could you do a video of your ranking of the Saw movies? I think that it would be pretty interesting!

I'm exited for saw x this year comes out on Halloween and yull be happy to know it's been confirmed tobin bell will be returning for it

I really wanted to like this but such a shame they didn't do something better with it. Still hyped for Saw 10 tho!

Regardless of how bad people look at it... I wanna give this movie a mad respect, still. I'm firm to say that it's still part of the whole franchise. Why? Spiral is supposed to be a some sort "parody" of the Saw movies. It focuses on how people outside the characters of SAW reacted to what they were hearing. That's why the story came from a John Cramer copycat guy who does so poor traps and even made a very lame plot twist. It is literally a story of SAW outside of what we've seen. But aside that, it's great that they went on the hot topic of a political and economic corruption. THE ONLY THING I HATE WAS ALL THE UNNECESSARY JOKES THAT WAS INVOLVED IT ALMOST MADE ME REFUSE THIS MOVIE TO BE A SAW MOVIE, TOO 😂

Binged and loved your Saw reactions. Was just sad with the last two because i've absolutely hated Jigsaw and loved Spiral 😂 It's Top 4 to me after 1, 2 and 6

A Saw cult sounds so good as an idea, having an anthology series of different copycats that are not as smart as John was to make their traps so they make them more raw. Recruiting people for the cult, convincing, it sounds like an amazinc concept

Also, Saw X takes place between Saw 1 and Saw 2!

Never seen Max Minghella anywhere else except The Handmaid's Tale. if u haven't seen that show yet I would highly recommend it.

Alot of people didnt like this movie but i watched it in the cinema and i did enjoy it, i was invested in the story. But if u watch Saw 1 and 2 and then this, yeah its not as good/different.

As someone who has two Saw tattoos I was so excited to see this movie in theaters, was so disgustingly disappointed. It’s quite literally the worst movie I have ever seen in my life. Horrible pacing, incredibly predictable, cheesy lines, horrible deaths, it makes a mockery of the meaning of saw and the ‘cherish your life’ lesson. I hate thinking about this being someone’s first Saw movie and introduction to the series. Ugh. I don’t understand how anyone likes it tbh!!

You hear Carl I’m the voice, all I can hear is “I am Kira”

I loved this movie. I prefer when Saw movies lean into the detective element. Like 4 & 5. Spiral to me was a classic style detective thriller. And i dug the urban vibe it had. Chris rock added a lot of personality and was just a cool movie to me.

The puppet is Billy

I like saw spiral and your reaction videos

When I first saw this movie (pun lol) I thought it was a good redemption arc for the movies since jigsaw was kinda meh and lame but rewatching spiral it was good but so much filler parts.

The worst thing about Spiral was that it was just plain boring, the traps were meh, the twist was so obvious a blind person could’ve seen it coming it was just so disappointing I hope Saw X is gonna be better

I kno I’m in a minority but outside of a few things chris rock overrated as hell to me 😭

so fun fact there was an entire trap CUT from the film by the MPAA (or maybe for looking too goofy, can't remember) Drury was going to be in a trap involving face flaying

IM SO INSULTED BY HOW BAD THIS WAS LMAO. I went to theaters to see this mess ;-; and I figured out the bad guy long before the twist at the end.

I'd prefer a direct sequel to Jigsaw. Maybe bring Hoffman back. This movie is not it for me lol. The new Jigsaw voice killed the fuck out of me and my mom hated this movie because of the hilarious voice lmao. I want Logan and Eleanor back. This story and characters felt so silly. Spiral is my least liked Saw film. The twist was predictable and so eh. So I guess in this world, there's a total of two Copycat Jigsaw killers in the same city? With Eleanor as Logan's accomplice ? I feel the EXACT same feelings as you. This movie is horrible to me. Not to mention, there is no group main game which keeps this at the bottom of the pile for me.

the thing that bothers me about spiral is that the traps are excecutions, there's no way any of them could've survived and it's so stupid because this kid is targeting them because of their police brutality while the entire fucking movie is about police brutality (and not even making it look "bad" if that makes sense, they keep saying "it's how we do things") also, i think spiral wanted so bad to be an action movie instead of a suspense / horror and i just hate action/cop movies

I laughed so hard at the final scene. Chris Rock is one of the funniest men alive! 🤣

I would have forgiven this movie if the twist was that the copycat actually WAS Carl Wheezer.

I see why u don't like it, the twist was obvious and the acting of Chris wasn't that good but tbh the rest was pretty good, games and stuff were creative, the movie had to go 11 times to mpaa and the film was cut 20 minutes or smthg wich is huge, cool reaction tho!

Despite what people think of this movie as a whole, I have respect for Chris Rock for at least trying to spice things up a bit. Not many comedians do that kind of stuff. The humor is a hit or miss for the most part and I am aware that the copycat killer's voice is viewed with either indifference or annoyance. At times, Spiral didn't feel like a Saw film per say. It was trying to go back to its roots, which I can appreciate alot. The first two films were more or less horror/thrillers. Once 3 came out, it turned the rest of the series into stereotypical slasher movies. I also do like the traps in Spiral and Charlie Clouser, who did the musical score from the last eight films came back for this one, which I was happy about. All and all, I've seen mostly a mix reaction towards this movie.

honestly better than jigsaw

I saw the previous two movies in theaters and didn’t bother trying to see this movie in theaters only saw it as part as a family movie night and I absolutely hated it

I was excited about this before it came out then I heard a lot of bad reviews so I avoided it. This video solidified that it's just not for me. Thanks for sharing!

I gave it a like because you had to sit through this, but oh boy was this movie a disgrace to the Saw franchise. Not like the others are masterpieces or anything, but this one tried to go a different route and it completely backfired. Also, Chris Rock can't act for s**t lol (if only Samuel LJ was the lead...)

The puppet isn't named Jeff, it's named Billy lol

i really wanted to like this when i watched it but it was just bad. and other ppl stating it " wasn't supposed to be a saw movie but something different and fresh" while using the IP feels like such a cop out for " if its bad, its okay cuz its not saw " it felt more like a scary movie franchise story.

a little late to see your reactions to the SAW franchise I love them! the reaction to this..I agree, the traps were cool and symbolic to the crimes like the original 3 movies but storyline and pace was dogs*t also...I watched Saw X in theatres....you should too...trust me my man :)

Sorry to break it to you guys but the puppets name was “Billy” not Jeff 😂

Just an opinion but I don't think this movie should have been made. The only good thing about this is they played the old school Saw music at the end

I liked the movie too. Shame if they had to cut out a trap. What could be that bad they got told to cut it. I mean this is saw afterall 😂

XD this spent most of the money on the cast NGL but it's definately part of that world the jigsaw murders are history to these people kinda like the kids in the newer screams they grew up hearing about the trilogy

I liked Spiral actually. The actual twist was with "why" William was the killer, not him being one. That was way too obvious for the franchise. And mark my word, in Saw X they will connect young William to John, that's my bet. But I only liked it after seeing it twice. I appreciated that they made the killer disconnected instead of creating another yet-unknown secret disciple. Let's be honest. They tried semi-reboot actual sequel with Jigsaw. Too many ties for the new audience, not enough for the fans of the franchise. They made Spiral, this time only the motif being the common thing, didn't work good as well. Now they come back with the old characters to see how that works out. Personally I would be happy with Spiral 2, but Saw X is what fans truly need. But in Spiral, at least the investigation part of the movie was cool and characters were memorable, unlike Jigsaw in which investigation was a sh*t show of nonsense actions and cops believing that Kramer came back from the dead. It was also lacking in terms of continuity, while Spiral wasn't.

I think you will LOVE Saw X

Yeah, this movie is a real stinker. I got absolutely nothing out of it.

Jeez, after rewatching this movie, it's actually worse than I remember. It was already very low in my Saw ranking but I'm actually dropping it down to my least favorite as well

Glad I watched this instead of renting the movie

I want to play a game. . The voice 🤣🤣

Ngl, once i heard the voice during the train trap i already turned it off. i know its a spinoff . but that just had me nope tf out of there.

As much as I love Chris Rock, he is HORRIBLY misscast in this one. Not just a bad Saw movie, but just a bad movie

I genuinely liked Spiral. But I think it’s because I saw it before I saw the Saw franchise 😂

Hi buddy

an absolutely unneeded movie

dayuum Sammy L Sure does love playing corrupt cops markus banks in this movie officer frank tenpenny in GTA San Andreas

Ready for Saw X?

Eh. It flopped the execution. But I respect it for trying to do something different. Like they wrote themselves into a corner by killing the main villain in the third movie. Kinda limited themselves in the universe they created. So I like that this movie tried to expand it. But yea, Chris Rock’s acting wasn’t very good at all, and the pacing was bad too

This movie is definitely not good, but I still like it. I get a lot of mileage out of bad movies

Why is Carl Weezer in the thumbnail help

he never went after cops

I absolutely HATE this movie with a passion. Agree with everything you said. Hands down my least favourite of the franchise.

i hated this one tbh. they took away my boy billy

I don't hate the movie, but i don't like it either lol.

The last couple of Saw films are bad, but Jigsaw and Spiral are atrocious.

I don't remember much about this movie, other than not liking Chris Rock as the primary protagonist.

Was very disappointed to see James Wan associated with this film

It wasn't that bad. I've watched it and went to bed without being drunk, so it's a win for me. Try watching "Moon fall" or "Catwoman". Those movies will knock you cold.

Majority of the movie kinda mid. Although the ending is surprisingly good, it's one of my favourites.

This is without a doubt the worst Saw movie. I remember being pretty hyped for it. Chris Rock is a fan. He seemed enthusiastic about it. Said he had a great idea for a new Saw movie. After seeing it, I have no idea what that "great idea" was supposed to be. "You should make a Saw movie but with Chris Rock in it" seemed to be the extent of it. So...congratulations Chris Rock, you made Saw IV actually look like a much better movie by comparison. No small feat. Maybe Will Smith is also a Saw fan. In which case his actions at the Academy Awards ceremony were completely understandable..

At the very least it had some pretty good traps, the story was just terrible.

Better than Jigsaw. At least the ending of this isn't a rip off of the ending of Saw 2 with the game happening in the past and Saw 4 with another secret apprentice (that in Jigsaw's case completely comes out of nowhere and breaks the canon) God I hate Jigsaw

Now that you’ve reached the (at the time I’m writing this comment) most recent Saw film there is one major grievance I would like to express regarding my favourite horror franchise. In the later Saw movies John Kramer seemed to develop some sort of strange psychic ability. Like seriously some of the stuff that John “predicts” would straight up require him to have psychic powers. I don’t care how good John says his “perception” or “ability to predict human behaviour” is because he shouldn’t possibly be able to predict most of the stuff that he does. It’s pure plot convenience! Why can John predict seemingly impossible to predict things? Oh, he’s just really good at it. Probably the most hand-wavy explanation ever. The writers obviously just got lazy. They’re telling us John is smart rather than showing us that he’s smart. It started off small with stuff like the magnum eyehole trap (yes, that’s what it’s called) from Saw 2. The trap working relies on two factors. One, someone finds the key and disregards/ignores the instructions not to use it on the door. Two, that person looks through the eyehole on the door while turning the key. While it isn’t completely unreasonable to assume that those things would happen the possibility that someone either follows the instructions or doesn’t look in the eyehole is still very much there. As the movies went on John’s “predictions” became less and less believable. The straw that breaks the camels back would likely be John’s death, or more specifically what happens after his death. So many things happen after John dies with so many variables that it would be basically impossible to predict all of it perfectly. Like what if Hoffman just decided to call it quits after John died? John’s entire plan for Saw 5 and 6 would be screwed! In conclusion, John Kramer is psychic. The proof is indisputable. If only he had used his powers for the good of humanity rather than murdering people (I don’t care what anyone says about his nonsense philosophy! He is absolutely a murderer no matter how much this franchise claims that he isn’t.) than we could have advanced our understanding of the human mind to new heights! Oh well! I guess that all this nonsense happened instead! (This conclusion is a kind of half joke by the way.) More on the topic of Spiral it’s alright as a generic horror flick, but it’s absolutely abysmal as a Saw film. I find that I enjoy this film much more when I don’t view it through the lens of it being a Saw film. Still even then it has its problems. Schenk is possibly one of the most obvious twist villains in horror history. Horror movie rule numero uno: If you don’t see their body then they probably aren’t really dead. I know we have the doll with his tattoo on it and the skinned body, but the guy could have just replicated his tattoo on someone else and skinned them in order to accomplish this. My next complaint is that Schenk’s plan (at least at the end of the movie) makes no goddamn sense. The way Schenk presents the final choice is very strange. The way he presents it Zeke can either shoot the target which will free his father but allow Schenk to escape, or he can shoot Schenk and let his father die. The main problem is both of these choices would not really be in Schenk’s favour. Remember that the final choice is immediately preceded by Schenk asking Zeke to join him. If Zeke takes the first option to free his father and Schenk runs away then no apprentice for him! If Zeke takes the second option to shoot Schenk and let his dad die then at best Schenk will be seriously injured and at worst he’ll flipping die. It would be kind of hard to get revenge on corrupt cops with a bullet stuck in you or with a bad case of death. And even if Schenk survives the shooting with relatively minimal injuries it would at least slow him down making it easier for the cops he just called to catch him. So the question is what does Schenk have to gain from giving Zeke this choice? Practically nothing! What, was Zeke supposed to drop the gun and not shoot at all and then Schenk would be like, “Alright, you passed my unnecessarily confusing final test! Now you can join me as my apprentice!” Cause if that was the route he was hoping Zeke would take then Schenk made absolutely no effort to indicate that was an option. And if he was hoping Zeke would figure that out on his own then it still wouldn’t make sense! As mentioned earlier, Schenk calls the police and tells them there’s a crazy guy with a gun at the building before giving Zeke the final choice. So Zeke is under pressure to make his choice quickly before they arrive. He probably wouldn’t be thinking straight enough in this situation to even think of an option beyond the two that Schenk presented. Ultimately Zeke ends up freeing his dad. He tries to chase down Schenk anyways but this results in Zeke getting the worst of both worlds. Schenk gets away and Zeke’s dad also dies because Zeke didn’t have the common sense to realize there was a backup trap in case he tried to cheat the game in the way that he did. So now not only does Schenk not have an apprentice but Zeke probably also hates him now. Zeke is likely to become an obsessed detective of sorts (like Detective Tapp) and dedicate the rest of his life to tracking Schenk down. Congratulations Schenk, you played yourself! Game over! Another grievance about Spiral I have (but less so then Schenk’s downright nonsensical plan) is that there isn’t really anything that the corrupt cops are learning from these traps. It’s just blatant murder. Like, it’s even more blatant than the murder that John was committing. This movie probably contains some of the most brutal and unsurvivable traps in the series (not counting the traps that are literally designed to be impossible). At least when John was killing people there was some sort of lesson that his victims were supposed to learn from their game. Schenk is all just, “Horribly mutilate yourself in a way that will likely result in your death anyways or die, LAWL!” (And yes, if your playing the trap by Schenk’s rules as he presents them then most of the so called “escape” methods would likely result in the victim’s death. This is most apparent with the tongue trap and hot wax trap.) I mean, it kind of makes sense considering Schenk’s backstory and motivation, but it still bothers me that there wasn’t really a lesson the corrupt cops were supposed to be learning from the traps other than the already obvious, “Don’t be corrupt.”

was not a huge fan of Spiral

I agree Spiral is the worst one has nothing to do with the saw series its literally a saw copycat of a movie nothing positive about the movie at all.

I really disliked this movie. The script writing is bad, and I am being generous. The way they delivered the expositions are just too obvious, too scripty. I almost expect them to look at the camera when they say those lines. It's almost on par with Shyamalan's Last Airbender lines of "As you know... ". Every time I hear them, it takes me out of the movie. It makes the actors look like they're bad at acting (at least I hope it's just the script). Also, that movie protagonist, he just talks and talks, and it makes me hate the movie even more. And that weird Jigsaw voice in the tapes. *puke* Zero enjoyment in watching it but I am still glad to watch your reaction to it. I do love the idea of a spinoff rather than a sequel without John Kramer. But this is a bad execution in my opinion.

Am i the only one who finds the pigs voice a little creepy?

Funny enough, and very controversial to popular opinion, this is my favorite Saw "sequel" haha. Saw VI is a close second

Terrible absolutely terrible not even Chris rock can save it lol . from the acting , to the voice over, to the laughable set and prop designs. 😅

This movie was a fat L

This movie definetly was awful.

Yeah it’s a terrible movie

Ngl I actually really like this one. Disagree with a lot of points here. Can’t comprehend how ppl hate this but like 5-7 and jigsaw.

This movie is usually just criticised because it doesn't involve John Kramer or Billy the Puppet and it's stupid. It's a spin-off and they weren't needed

I genuinely dont get why people hate the voice of the antagonist in this movie so much.. If anything, I think a low, gravely “I WANT TO PLAY A GAME” is just cheesy and super predictable. With this voice to text method, idk man its just so eery to me. I wonder if I’m the only one who thinks this

Yes I agree. It was so bad. So fucking bad. So pissed it even happened. Saw is the best franchise ever and they really fucked up here. So excited for saw X coming this year it will be a prologue to the first movie so I’m so excited holy shit

I thought you would show the you wanna get a slice moment. It was the funniest.

Spiral fell short