Definitely at least* 51, actually more, but save that for later.... 🤫

No doubt. It's SO deep and it's amazing seeing all the questions being asked from an intelligent, adult, first time viewer.

I think there's a meta process going on here too. Our confusion as the audience mirrors Luke's and we enter the next chapter alarmed that maybe we don't understand. Like Meg, we've been bamboozled.

@@adamwells9352 Oh yes, definitely.

And that line, of course, is: "I don't know where you get your delusions, laser-brain."

Oh...I always thought that Vader used the Force to get information from Han, that's why they didn't need to ask any questions. :D

​@nyuszicsib Honestly, it could very well have been that, too. Vader was torturing Han to lure in Luke, but he could have absolutely been probing Han's mind at the same time.

Right? Like what was he supposed to do?

Not to many realize the lose/lose situation he had been put into.

Yeah, he had some adventures with Han and Chewie a long time ago. But at the time of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, he's far removed from that and has a whole city he's responsible for. Han was never his favorite person anyway, especially after a certain card game. Why would Lando risk what he has now?

I imagine Vader said give up Han, or everyone and everything in the city gets destroyed.

@@jimmyboredom3519 According to EU sources that is exactly what would have happened. Had the falcon been outright warned to stay back the Executor would have trained every bit of its fire power down on to the city in a massive orbital bombardment. There would have been no survivors left afterwards which again points to the lose/lose situation Lando was in.

When it was originally written in Star Wars, it was intended to be because his father was an adventurer and risk taker... after Empire, it took a more ominous tone

As someone who grew up watching Star Wars, with most of my family members also being aware of at least the original trilogy, I used to think that "no way people don't know anything about these movies... they're everywhere! the merch, the tv runs of the movies and shows, just people talking..." So yeah, then I made a good friend in college who was so totally not-in-the-know about any kind of space fiction, I just had to convince her to give Star Wars a chance, and... so happy I did, lol. I still remember the pure shock and amazement on her face at the whole father reveal What I'm saying is, personally, I can absolutely believe people being blind to almost 100% of the stuff from extremely popular franchises, ahah

It's very possible. I haven't seen the Spider-Verse sequel, last season of TWD, later John Wick, Breaking Bad, I mean, Shang Chi, you get it, for some reason! Maybe I need my old peeps to watch with! That's it! Get back on track! And I haven't seen Oppenheimer or MCU Spidey Sequels...and I'm usually the first myself whether people wanna see or not. This was before the dark times ...

Neither have i seen later season Mando.

cuz this shit is ALL bullshit lol. just for views.

@dariathelazy it's also a testament to the fact that many people know the value of the secrecy of it all even if the OP mentions parodies and memes, etc, which frankly because of the gravity of the reveal, it's not divulged and so it's not spoiled. Parodies are fun if they don't spoil core content. They're an art themselves. Spoiling would make them a-hole ruiners of other people's experiences.

Uh, spoilurrhhh.

@@genghisgalahad8465 Ummmmm....how, exactly? 😒🙄😮‍💨

@@genghisgalahad8465 it is not a spoiler as people can't comment until after they already did the movie.

Well, perhaps the reveal in The Sixth Sense is just as big if not bigger.

Are you up for some trade negotiations?

@@richwagener If not, don't worry, the negotiations will be short.

100% I've long thought this analogy. As with certain drugs, they make you feel happy and POWERFUL, and the grip is so strong, that you can become rapidly, if not INSTANTLY addicted.

Never realized that before. Good explanation.

For better and for worse since every subsequent films keeps getting unfairly held up to it by quite a number of fans. It's almost impossible to conceive that Empire was rather divisive when it came out.

To be fair, the theatrical release is the best movie. The re-release stretched the ending slightly, and this takes away from the danger and the soundtrack. This one also showed the snow beast, and it was scarier when you only got a glimpse of it.

Revenge of the sith clears imo

@@WitcherSigns2023 *The scene where Anakin becomes Darth Vader is still one of the cringiest scenes ever in a big budget genre film.* I was in the theater embarrassed for myself watching Ian McDermott play possum talking about he is "too weak... ooh eee, aah". Jesus Christ.

Gimme RotJ. I know, I know ewoks, but the throne room scene and final space battle carry it to my fave

Also when Luke asks what is in the cave, I am surprised how many don't seem to understand or completely miss what Yoda means when he says "only what you take with you." He is not talking about Luke's gear but his emotions. And yes, Luke already failed when he took his lightsaber with him, and the rest what happened in the cave proved that the greatest threat to his fall was himself.

SO SWEET! Thank you!! -Meg

Hahaha I did my best, thank you for the support! 😂 - Caleb/Korbal Starscreamer

Ditto. Kudos to you, man! You are allowing her to experience the movie the way we all experienced it. Just think if you had to wait three years before Return of the Jedi!

They only escaped without him because Vader was distracted, and Vader was distracted because Luke was there. If Luke hadn't gone, there's no way that they would have been able to escape from Darth Vader. The real lie is when Yoda says that if Luke goes, he would destroy all that they have fought for, but Luke going doesn't hurt the cause of the rebellion at all.

@@WJS774 you may be right that they were able to escape because Vader was distracted by Luke. There’s no way to know that for sure but it would’ve been much harder for them to escape if Vader wasn’t busy with Luke. I don’t think you’re correct about Yoda’s quote, I’ve always thought of that differently. I don’t think he’s talking about destroying the rebellion. He says “fought and suffered”. I always took that to mean the suffering they are experiencing being tortured by Vader. The main reason Vader is hunting and then torturing them is to get to Luke. By Luke willfully going there he is falling right into Vader’s trap and his friends’ fighting not to get caught and suffering the torture is in vain.

There's also the point that Hans been needling her aaaaaall movie that she's got unresolved feelings for him she's refusing to process. It's very Han to be like "yeah, that's what I've been saying for awhile now" in his response, no matter the situation.

cuz they don't appreciate anything...even love.

Real romance has been lost to time...

That line wasn't in the script. Harrison ad libbed it. George Lucas liked it and left it in.

​@@inarar5334Yes, that's it. It's extremely in character, but it's still not very nice, and I don't know why people are suddenly trying to insist that it is. Han isn't a very kind and sweet person, at least at this point, so he didn't say something kind or sweet. He said something kinda mean that perhaps hints at his deeper feelings, and the fact that he is actually a good person deep down. But he's trying very hard not to show it.

The original cut of the film had it so Vader and the Emperor already figured it was Luke Skywalker, but it was altered by Lucas in later releases to happen on-screen. Though the new comic's have also established that Vader learned about Luke from Boba Fett after sending him to find the Rebel pilot ho destroyed the Death Star, so the exchange takes on a new light of them knowing the other knows but keeping up the pretence because their Sith.

Like Jones or Smith?

@@putinscat1208 Don't know what you mean?

@MrGrayThunder - Actually, Vader did know that Luke was his son, well before Vader had his conversation with the Emperor. The movie’s clues are very clear on this point: 1) The Emperor IS NOT telling Vader anything that Vader doesn't already know. Note that Vader said, in an earlier part of the movie, "...and I'm sure Skywalker is with them." So Vader already knew that someone named 'Skywalker' was a Big Person in the Rebel alliance, and he probably already knew that this Skywalker was THE PERSON who destroyed the Death Star. Vader also knew that when he (Vader) was attempting to shoot down Luke’s X-Wing in 'A New Hope' that, "The Force is strong with this one." So, the Force is unusually strong with someone, who happens to have the name, 'Skywalker' - and 'Skywalker' is the same name that Vader had before he was Vader. I’m willing to believe that George Lucas said what he said about ‘Skywalker’ being a common name in the galaxy. But the fact remains that no fact, no piece of dialogue or revealed info in any of the 1-6 films, supports this view. The ONLY characters we EVER encounter, or hear about, with the name ‘Skywalker’ are Anakin, Luke and Shmi. From the audience’s context, ‘Skywalker’ in these stories is a name that is absolutely unique...So, Vader already knew he had a son, before he spoke to the Emperor. 2) If Vader already knew, why did he conceal that fact, and act surprised when the Emperor mentioned it? "How is that possible?" The answer is, that while Vader serves the Emperor, Vader also •hates• the Emperor, and has a different agenda than the Emperor. Vader wants to rescue Luke from death, and to kill the Emperor, and then rule the galaxy with his son - the only family he has left (that Vader knows about). That means turning Luke to the Dark Side. By contrast, the Emperor wants to remove Luke as a threat. That could mean destroying Luke, but when Vader suggests turning Luke to the dark side, the Emperor goes along with it: If Luke is converted to the Dark Side, the Emperor can "trade up" and replace Vader with "a new apprentice, one far younger and more powerful." So, when Vader talks to the Emperor, both Vader and the Emperor are "scheming past one another." Each one wants to use a future, changed-version-of-Luke to destroy the other Sith Lord. •••• Therefore: Vader learned that he had a son, that his name is Luke, and that this person almost certainly is “the young Rebel that destroyed the Death Star.” Vader began pursuing Luke for Vader’s own purposes. Then the Emperor learned about Luke independently, and spoke with Vader. Vader had to pretend to be surprised at the Emperor’s statements about Luke. At the same time, the Emperor is setting Vader up for a downfall. The Emperor does not know that he is vulnerable to Vader, but the Emperor does want to ‘trade up’ with Luke. The Emperor wants to move things in that direction, and that’s why the Emperor talks with Vader in the first place.

Canonically he did know. He found out in a comic book.

Damn.

Yeah, I've seen reactors be confused about why Obi-Wan sacrificed himself. You are correct and part of it also is he knew there was no way that Luke would leave without him and they would all just get re-captured. He saw Luke and Leia about to get on the ship and stop when they saw him. He had to "die" so that they would leave.

This moment is much more powerful after viewing the Obi-Wan Kenobi show.

Yes the text it showed on the display in front of Luke in the X-Wing was translating for Luke.

It’s binary. Asrromech droids speak binary, which is why Luke can understand Artoo. So long as you learn binary you can understand astromechs.

R -2 is a badass pilot too!!!

@@glowhoo9226 Not true. Luke always had to depend on 3PO or the XWing to translate for him. There are sever times on screen where this happens. In fact, when they first land on Dagobah, Luke says, "If you're saying coming here was a bad idea..." implying that he didn't know what R2 was saying.

@@glowhoo9226no it’s written on the screen in front of Luke in the x-wing. In the first movie, C3PO translates for him when R2 speaks to Luke

You know, i've long thought that since the Emperor knew Luke was the Son of Anakin Skywalker BEFORE his Vader Zoom call, that the Emperor was manipulating Darth Vader into thinking it was Vader's own idea to recruit Luke, when the Emperor had the idea, as well. I dont think it's a far cry in logic for the Emperor to think "Self, I want Luke on the team. If i tell Vader about his son, he'll want to meet him. Vader will try to manipulate ME into getting Luke on the team when that's what I want all along. Good plan, self. Break!"

Boooooo (good one)

The Darth Brooks segments are comedy gold!

Me too. Only a special edition version of Star Wars trilogy on 📼.

I'd go into the games before the TV shows. The games are mostly top tier, but the shows are mostly mid.

​@@iremainteague5653KOTOR 1 and 2 Star wars bounty hunter and Stars episode 3 the game are Great.

Or just that he knows that Piett hadn't screwed up, like the other officers did. Or maybe that meeting Luke (and subsequently failing to capture him) has mellowed him a bit.

Oh Darth Vader definitely has a sense of humour. "Apology accepted...", "Perhaps you feel you're being treated unfairly?", "The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am".

Yep, he was the one needing to be rescued. Vader was NEVER in any danger, he doesn't even use both hands on his lightsaber for most of the fight. He was feeling out Luke's skill and then playing with him and winding him up to try and get him to access the dark side. Arguably even the reveal was deliberately timed to hit as hard as possible, emotionally.

And of course to James Earl Jones, the voice of Vader.

@@a_fine_edition2746 Even JEJ thought at the time of Empire that Vader was lying.

There's an interview of Mark discussing how he was told about it. He said Kershner came to him and said ,"I'm going to tell you something. George knows it, I know it, and now you'll know it. So if it gets out, we'll know it was you" and handed him the piece of paper with the line on it.

Well said and right on.

I think you are spot on with the reasons not to tell Luke. Until you've trained Luke for a while and taught him about the evils of the dark side how safe would it be to tell a dirt-poor kid who's never even heard of the force that his real father, who he's never met, basically rules the galaxy and think that kid isn't going to be tempted to go and join him? I don't think that Owen and Beru knew that he was Vader though. I think they knew he was a Jedi and thought that it got him killed. They wanted to keep Luke as far away from that life as possible.

@@jabecker21 That interpretation is 100% plausible!!

​@@jabecker21 Yes, very few people knew that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker. Anakin was very famous, but after he fell he was put into the suit that hides his appearance almost immediately and only Obi-wan and Yoda knew what had happened. Well, and Artoo. Artoo knows all! Owen and Beru definitely wouldn't know unless Obi-wan chose to tell them though. He might just have told them what he told Luke, that Anakin had been killed by Darth Vader and he wanted them to keep his newborn son hidden and safe.

Or, 11 years, and waiting three years. Marvel comics, playing with the action figures, collecting cards - I was in the SW fan Club then, and ‘hints’ in the newsletter, yet it was still a wait.

If you watch Battlestar Galactica 1978, The Gun on ice planet zero episodes, you will see where TESB and ROTJ plot points came from. You also have special effect scenes with special effects that did first what Lucas did later in ROTJ

Just recommended your channel to someone on Instagram who shared a certain Star Wars character in a cowboy hat with a humorous caption - I know they'll enjoy your vibe! Cos Darth Brooks had me like 😂😂😂

She reacts to Return of the Jedi alone, I insisted on it! haha. I just really wanted to watch this one with her. - Caleb

Agreed tbh. EDIT: I don't mean to be rude of course, but I just feel there's something special about sitting down alone and coming to your own conclusions by yourself as you watch, completely uninfluenced by anything other than your own mind.

@@MegMageReacts All good, looking forward to that reaction releasing whenever it's ready for KZfaq!

Agreed, but glad I didn't have to be the one to say it first! The reaction comments are great but it's distracting away from the movie to have another person there that you're specifically making them to because then you start talking to them instead of watching. Sorry Caleb, nothing personal!

Agreed.

Unfortunately, most people don't understand subtlety.

Was he? When did he ever say something to that effect to her? He had that "or I'm beginning to like her" line, but that wasn't said to Leia. Most of the things he says to her are sarcastic, teasing, or just downright a bit mean. He made his attraction to her pretty obvious, but there's a pretty long way between that and "I love you".

Thank you so much! We’re so glad to have you along with us ☺️ Imperial March headbanging is a must. It had to be a blast to play this music in orchestra!

Agreed. You get that sense of progression.

I agree with you unless they already know the Vader twist. If someone already knows that then I think episode order, which can include the shows, is the best way. Can't discuss it more without getting into spoilers.

I feel like the twists in episode order are better.

@@samgradyfilm Completely disagree because the viewer than loses the shock of learning Vader is Anakin. Also, I'd go one further not only should you introduce people to the films in release order but for the Original Trilogy you should only show the person the original version of A New Hope vs the Special Edition because than they also get the surprise of finally seeing Jabba in ROTJ after the build up from ANH and Empire.

@@jokerz7936 And if you watch in release order there is no shock when he _becomes_ Vader. People only say that you should watch the films in release order because that is how _they_ first watched them.

Methinks that's exactly what the US and its allies want us to think 🤔 ask the citizens, and I betcha way more of them would agree that it's an intimidation tactic. Even the way you describe it shows that it is. There might be a small minority of situations that contradict it, but on the whole, our presence everywhere is very much a reminder of "we have the biggest guns, and we want them everywhere, and you can't do anything about it" - Caleb

@@MegMageReacts How many countries do you know of that were invaded when the U.S. military was present and how quickly were they invaded after the U.S. military pulled out? What's preventing China from invading Japan? China remembers the Japanese occupation and would like to take revenge for that. But since Japan has a heavy U.S. military presence. Without the U.S. military there, Japan would basically be defenseless due to the agreements set forth when Japan surrendered at WWII. After the Iraq war, everyone knew that Syrai was trying to get a foothold in Iraq, but what prevented Syria from going to war with Iraq was the presence of the U.S. military.

Sounds an awful lot like intimidation tactics to me 🤪

@@MegMageReacts No. There may be some citizens who want the U.S. military out of their countries, but the governmente want them to stay. It's expensive to build a defense force. And it's cheaper when another country, a superpower, does that defense for you. I have mixed feelings about the U.S. being overseas. Let's say you are an immigrant from the Ukraine. Would you want your country to be protected by the U.S, where you have friends and family still there? I am an immigrant from South Korea and have many friends and family there, and I know that North Korea will invade as soon as the U.S. pulls out. There was anti-American sentiment early in the 2000s in South Korea due to the Olympics and then a few years later due to two young girls being run over by a tank. And some people wanted the U.S. military to leave after those incidents. But the vast majority of the citizens wanted the U.S. military to stay. I hate that the U.S. governement is spending so much money on the military, but at the same time, I don't want my family and friends killed from a North Korean invasion. Half of the population of South Korea live just 35 miles away from the DMZ. And with the North Korean army having 3x as many soldiers as the South Korean army, millions would be killed from an invasion in just the first hour. America has immigrants from many countries and I'm pretty certain that they want their friends and family in the countries they came from to be safe.

@@MegMageReacts Here are some few articles you can read if youtube doesn't shadowban them. They'll be listed in the next few comments.

I posted this reply to another comment, but I'll post it here too because I think it's even more of a fun fact. The "fact" about Luke's face and the wampa attack in this movie is just a widely believed urban legend. George Lucas, the director of this movie Irvin Kershner and even Mark Hamill himself have all been asked about this and denied it. George Lucas was asked and he said the wampa attack was in his original script for Empire Strikes Back which was written before Mark Hamill's accident. He just needed a way for Luke to be in distress when he sees a vision of Obi Wan telling him to go to Yoda. Irvin Kershner was asked about it and said that there was nothing done to the movie due to Mark's accident and that all his scars in this movie are makeup that was added to show the effects of the wampa attack. Mark Hamill was asked about it in an interview all the way back in the 80's I believe, you can even find videos of the interview on KZfaq. He said that he was in a minor accident and got minor injuries and somehow people turned that in to he received major injuries and then somehow that turned in to him getting facial reconstruction surgery. He said that none of that is true. He was even in another movie called Corvette Summer which was filmed after his accident but more recently after it than Empire Strikes Back and he looks completely normal in that movie.

It was an accident in a Corvette not a motorcycle

Awwwww, I'm so sowwy you hate fun 🥲 I'm having fun, dude. If you don't like it, there are literally MILLIONS of other videos you can watch. - Caleb (the editor/guy in the video)

I think that that whole thing with 'Vader' being the word for father in the Dutch is a fortunate coincidence, cause it was just supposed to sound ominous, a short form of 'invader'. George Lucas has a gift of pulling things from his behind and than proclaiming 'it was planned all along' :) He had no idea where he was going with the story when he wrote the first Star Wars. I mean, Leia kissed Luke here :) Ah, good old George, you just gotta love him.

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