First Time with 2025 Ram 1500 Towing! Is Hurricane Any Good?

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4 ай бұрын

We got our first time with the 2025 Ram 1500 towing. Is the new standard output Hurricane any good? Publisher Tim Esterdahl takes it for a spin.
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@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Make sure you check out the price comparison between Big Horn and Laramie. It is shocking! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a96SfNN6076pm4k.html
@derekberg5395
@derekberg5395 4 ай бұрын
$83k for a base Laramie.... Looks like Ram will be rolling out $25k off MSRP to move these.
@clayolson8606
@clayolson8606 4 ай бұрын
The Laramie he is driving is 83k. Actually it is 81400. Because it doesnt actually have the sunroof they had in the price. A base 4x4 Laramie is like 64.. pretty in line with previous year but many more standard features... But the one he is driving has advanced safety and handsfree driving assist. 4 k and 4k respectively. If you want hands free price will skyrocket
@johnmorris77
@johnmorris77 4 ай бұрын
That’s not a base Laramie but yea the price is absurd I bought a 5th gen 2019 base Laramie for 39600 new. Sticker was 54k. This literally is stickered at double what I paid
@clayolson8606
@clayolson8606 4 ай бұрын
@@johnmorris77 everything is more expensive now a days, but the HDs are the worst. Had a 2020 3500 Laramie 69000msrp I had 2 2022 3500 Laramie one ordered right at the beginning of the model year MSRP 76, ordered an identical one towards the end of the model year 88k.... SAME MODEL year.... 10k more. The 2024 I got, 101650...
@johnmorris77
@johnmorris77 4 ай бұрын
@@clayolson8606 yea that’s absolutely ridiculous. 1 month ago I bought a duramax Zr2 sticker was 75k and I paid like 67800. And everyone on here was saying the Zr2 is way to expensive and I kept saying no it’s actually a pretty good deal if you look at the rebel and tremor and trd pro it’s the best truck for the money right now
@ohioguy4326
@ohioguy4326 4 ай бұрын
As the price sky rockets so do the rebates.
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 4 ай бұрын
Some people have already pointed out the cooling system has slot of plastics already. Dorman is going to make a killing with cooling system upgrades.
@4-LOW
@4-LOW 4 ай бұрын
$20k more than my 2022 Laramie optioned similarly. Holy hell.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 4 ай бұрын
In 2019 I bought my Ram Longhorn here in 🇨🇦. Price was $68100.00 before taxes. Ya prices are nuts
@zakobrien8764
@zakobrien8764 3 ай бұрын
my 2022 Power Wagon (loaded) was 71K, 2024...84K
@CrimtideStreams
@CrimtideStreams Ай бұрын
Yeah, 2025 laramies are already selling for under 60K at the dealerships..
@Fresco1044
@Fresco1044 4 ай бұрын
My 2020 Ram 1500 Laramie 5.7 Hemi 4x4 with 392 gears does better Gas Mileage towing and around town that that new one...and it's not recommending high octane gas in mine either...
@maureeceposten47
@maureeceposten47 4 ай бұрын
To your point additionally, yours is a V8 and you're still getting equivalently better mileage and performance, therefore the ridiculous price hike in the cost of the newer truck is unwarranted and not justifiable at all. Give us a better performing transmission, maybe more reliable turbo technology with a longer-termed warranties especially if the manufacturer is going to jack up the price like they have still try to justify supply shortages as an issue, therefore I cannot see endorsing this new truck at this price point., IMO
@dang5553
@dang5553 4 ай бұрын
This was figured on the old 12v and 24v turbo Cummins trucks. Once your above like 10 or 12 pounds of boost mpg suck. When you use boost your mpg are in the crap house happens to all engines boosted.
@alexisguilbe8040
@alexisguilbe8040 3 ай бұрын
As a RAM owner, I feel really disappointed with these engines. I have a Bighorn Lone star 5.7 2022 and I will not change the HEMI for Hurricane.
@M_dot202
@M_dot202 2 ай бұрын
The hemi does not have the low end torque of the hurricane.
@Danzilly
@Danzilly 4 ай бұрын
Tim thanks for showing some towing! Look forward to seeing yours soon.
@doublebackagain4311
@doublebackagain4311 4 ай бұрын
If they can shoehorn this engine into a Wrangler/Gladiator it would be REALLY nice 👍
@jayray274
@jayray274 4 ай бұрын
They coulda done it years ago with the Hemi and chose not to. I wouldn’t count on it in the future.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
@@jayray274 Hemi was too heavy. Not worth it.
@kevincinnamontoast3669
@kevincinnamontoast3669 4 ай бұрын
The hemi is an optional engine on wranglers.
@jayray274
@jayray274 4 ай бұрын
@@DusdaddyI guess, I just don’t think 266 lbs would make a huge change in payload.
@is6566
@is6566 4 ай бұрын
@jayray… and @Dusdaddy 😃 So what engine do you guys think is in the 392 Rubicon Wrangler?
@MariktheWolf
@MariktheWolf 4 ай бұрын
the zf8hp is the best mass produced auto trans on the market...if its good enough for a RR and many other high end brands then it def holds up in these trucks...its been around for over 10 yrs and they are solid...i wish they kept the TRX and also gave this night vision off the wagoneer and the anti glare high beams that are now finally legal here esp for $80k...other than that its a nice truck...
@jamiesteiger6140
@jamiesteiger6140 4 ай бұрын
I have had 2 vehicles with this trans. I like it.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 4 ай бұрын
Your right on that. People need to understand that the Hemi and ZF trans is a perfect power plant. That’s the only reason I bought the Ram. For back in the day I wouldn’t touch them. Now Ram is the most reliable truck 5 years standing. Ya they have there issues but I will take those known issues compared to the Ford n GM issues. Love the truck…
@justinbourgeois4685
@justinbourgeois4685 2 ай бұрын
​@@ramrider1453Hemi is just an old school engine, not bad, nothing special. But the ZF is unreal
@markf8256
@markf8256 4 ай бұрын
As Tim said the smaller displacement turbo charged engines are here to stay. It has absolutely nothing to do with what you want. It is about what the government wants for you. The government is penalizing the auto industry via fines in the millions of dollars for not meeting fleet emissions standards. This means that most large displacement engines are toast. Until that changes this is just the beginning of the undesirable changes coming our way.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Yup.
@turtledunkknucklebaby8089
@turtledunkknucklebaby8089 2 ай бұрын
Millions? Stellantis has paid Tesla over 2.5 billion since 2017 buying their unused CAFE emission’s credits just to keep producing hemi’s. That doesn’t even touch the fines they’ve been paying on top of what they couldn’t cover with the BS government allocated credits. It’s also how Tesla has managed to stay profitable. They don’t hardly make any money selling cars. They satisfy the government’s ignorant definition of “carbon emissions”, and can do with their credits as they please. So they sell them to other auto makers. It’s a really weird system.
@michaelstone7514
@michaelstone7514 4 ай бұрын
Dont change the transmission. The zf 8 speed has the perfect amount of gears plus its reliable and smooth. No weird shifts or hunting!
@justinbourgeois4685
@justinbourgeois4685 2 ай бұрын
ZF transmission is god sent
@James-kd2cm
@James-kd2cm 4 ай бұрын
Like most turbos you probably won’t save a lot of fuel if you like to put your foot into it. It will have a better emission rating due to the smaller displacement. I’ll miss the hemi sound. Beautiful truck.
@spinedoc893
@spinedoc893 4 ай бұрын
I totally agree the turbo 6's don't get any better mileage than V8's unless you baby them. The #'s look great on the chassis dyno EPA test but in real world no better on fuel and often worse. Time will tell how the reliability is but the turbo 6's are more expensive, more complicated and more expensive to fix so unless you tow at high altitude I'm not really sure what the benefit is???
@crowtein677
@crowtein677 4 ай бұрын
Nothing gets good fuel efficiency if you floor it
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 4 ай бұрын
@@spinedoc893 the benefit is effortless towing
@1gr8oil
@1gr8oil 3 ай бұрын
@@paulhunter9613 AND EXTREMELY SMOOTH!!
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 3 ай бұрын
@@1gr8oil 👍
@bantizzle79
@bantizzle79 4 ай бұрын
Nice having tow mirrors when you are towing large enclosed trailers. Helps with blind spots. Especially if you don't have a truck with trailer blind spot monitoring.
@larrygray1557
@larrygray1557 4 ай бұрын
Nice quick review. Incidentally, while you noted the weights on the Airstream, was confused when didn't match up with the 23 or 25 Flying Cloud. Enlarged to full screen and froze video. In the bottom corner of that label, you had a 2024 25FB TradeWind, which Airstream introduced this year. That is a sweet trailer. Length is 26 ft 2in. Stated tongue weight is 725lbs (usually low - loaded probably in the 850-950 range) which subtracts directly from the 1423lb payload of the Ram...which is really the issue with half ton towing. You run out of payload way before you run out of towing capacity.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Yup, payload is a much bigger concern than towing capacity.
@OscarFlores-gl8gn
@OscarFlores-gl8gn 3 ай бұрын
Wow! Now I don’t have to wonder on the inline 6. Awesome thank you
@is6566
@is6566 4 ай бұрын
Good concise video.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@davidphillips3953
@davidphillips3953 2 ай бұрын
My 6.4 hemi 2500 never got that bad of mpg towing a 30ft brick camper... or car or truck on a open car trailer or anything ever and we have mountains everywhere here in western Montana. Also enjoy trying to fix all those cameras and sensors and crap when it breaks. I switched to this truck after a 2011 5.7 and it never got that bad of mpg and can't really tell the difference in ride from that leaf spring truck to this cool spring truck... just a placebo to sell more flimsy trucks (control arm bushings are made of play dough or something in the leaf spring trucks).
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 4 ай бұрын
I like how people get crazy about the price, it's just the sticker price. No one pays sticker unless they are drunk rich, and that does happen. For everyone else, you pay $30K below sticker on this truck...you will see.
@turnerruma5977
@turnerruma5977 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 GMC Sierra AT4 3.0I6 Duramax. I like the RAM interior but I prefer the horizontal display in the GMC/ Chevy over the vertical display in the RAM.
@mikewilkey9431
@mikewilkey9431 4 ай бұрын
Said by no one that owns one
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Horizontal is preferred. The top portion is all that is used so it's like a low-end Nissan with a 8" screen.
@turnerruma5977
@turnerruma5977 4 ай бұрын
@user-hw9lm1lf9n No, it does not 24+ MPG and great low end torque. Even in the city I get over 20MPG. Do you own a 3.0I6?
@is6566
@is6566 4 ай бұрын
@turner… Of course he doesn’t. He wouldn’t say that if he would have one. According to every review and real owner experience the 3.0 is probably the best engine in the half ton market and that includes the 5.0 Ford V8 that I have. Today I would buy the baby Duramax instead.
@traciweisenbachCITB
@traciweisenbachCITB 4 ай бұрын
@user-hw9lm1lf9nany dodge engine sucks.
@outfitr9703
@outfitr9703 4 ай бұрын
So im looking at a very well equipped 24 chevy 2500hd gasser at $65000. Why would anyone pay 83k for a half ton pickup?
@DM-tf6mk
@DM-tf6mk 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Price is ridiculous!
@estried86
@estried86 4 ай бұрын
These half ton trucks aren't worth buying anymore. My 2022 F-250 Lariat with the Godzilla gas motor was $62,000 with tax, and after incentives.
@fozzybear9114
@fozzybear9114 4 ай бұрын
Get what u pay for. Chevys burn oil. ALL OF THEM
@justinbourgeois4685
@justinbourgeois4685 Ай бұрын
@@fozzybear9114 yep
@bradley190
@bradley190 4 ай бұрын
Interesting truck. Don't like the price. I will be curious to see how they hold up with time and miles. As a former mechanic, Im usually quite skeptical of anything new. Give them 3 to 5 years and see how they hold up.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 4 ай бұрын
Your a mechanic? Then you should understand that Ram has greatly improved. Hemi and ZF transmission is solid since the last few years. Data shows there best in reliability so that says a lot. Ya they have there quarks and issues but so does Ford and GM. Ford has the highest record breaking call backs. But like anything. No maintence,then things don’t last.
@bradley190
@bradley190 4 ай бұрын
@ramrider1453 You are correct the ZF 8 speed is a good transmission and has been around a while. I have no issues with that. Anytime a new engine platform is brought to the marketplace there are always bugs to be worked out. Anyone who thinks the auto manufacturers are looking out for the consumers best interests hasn't worked in a dealership. The only thing auto the manufactures care about is your new vehicle lasting until the warranty is expired. Then, planned obsolescence can take it's toll so you can buy another new vehicle.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 4 ай бұрын
@@bradley190 Your right on that. Hurricane will take time to prove out for sure. I was mostly thinking of the Hemi and it’s reliability. Theoretically the straight six should be a well designed engine but only real world tests will prove that out. 👍
@johnkoko
@johnkoko 4 ай бұрын
8speed is a great transmission
@markf8256
@markf8256 4 ай бұрын
Correct. With a 10 spd you are not using the top 2 to 3 gear ratios anyway.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 4 ай бұрын
Agree. We have RAM trucks in our fleet, over 70 of them...and we've never had an issue with one of them. Our guys beat the daylight out of these trucks and the entire fleet of trucks has held up amazingly and the transmissions have been bulletproof.
@ramrider1453
@ramrider1453 4 ай бұрын
@@onthethrottle7104Same with the contractors at my work. That’s why I went with Ram. I seen it up and close how well Ram held up. Now the early years had there issues and to many. It will take time before people see that they picked up there game on reliability.
@weegeemike
@weegeemike 4 ай бұрын
Nice truck. Sad to see the HEMI V8 option go. I prefer V8s in my trucks but thats just me. I think RAM is going to alienate a lot of traditional V8 truck buyers. Crazy high price but inflation is going nuts despite what the government wants you to believe.
@mikehewitt1766
@mikehewitt1766 4 ай бұрын
I don’t get all the hate for turbos, I’ve been around turbocharged engines for over 50 years and never had one go bad. I’ve heard of a few going bad, it’s bound to happen with anything that turns high rpm’s. An in-line 6 cylinder with turbo is a decades old recipe. I currently have a machine with a in-line 7 cylinder with compound turbos factory built.
@lb7144
@lb7144 2 ай бұрын
Some folk just have to complain about something. Chrysler is not forcing anyone to purchase their products. Most of these people couldn’t have been around during the late 70s, early 80s-90s. Most of the V8s were gone and turbo 6s & 4s were being sold.
@alp3781
@alp3781 4 ай бұрын
Insane price. Hold tight all, Stallantis will have no choice but to give back some money/gifts cause these trucks will pile up at dealers.
@duggydo
@duggydo 4 ай бұрын
I've never been much of a Dodge/RAM guy except for the older 5.9 HD trucks. This one is the most interesting I've seen as far as engines go. I'm not a fan of the knob shifter though.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
It's odd in the beginning but amazingly easy to get used to. Nice thing is no loss of space on the console. More room for clutter!
@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly 4 ай бұрын
So you're a big fan of the big ignorant column shift this does not connect to anything
@traciweisenbachCITB
@traciweisenbachCITB 4 ай бұрын
@@ubeuonlyCHEVY WINS SOOOOOOOOOOOO
@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly 4 ай бұрын
@@traciweisenbachCITB Chevy hasn't been anyone's First Choice in about 15 years. They failed so miserably trying to keep up with ram that they redesigned it in 2021 2 years after its introduction because it was such a failure for interior Spec. Engines blowing. Transmission issues. Good luck
@Flathead40
@Flathead40 4 ай бұрын
I tow a camper 10ish times a year and so far I can attest that tow mirrors are worth money after having a truck with and without.
@barryhamilton3112
@barryhamilton3112 10 күн бұрын
I have owned 5 Ram trucks in a row. I will not buy a truck that requires PREMIUM FUEL!! My current truck is a GEN3 Eco-diesel that I travel for work in. I love it!! I guess I’ll have to go Chevy/GMC Diesel next!
@estried86
@estried86 4 ай бұрын
A "Chrysler" product with European turbos, what could possibly go wrong...
@keithm7087
@keithm7087 4 ай бұрын
They should demo the truck with a conventional travel trailer that the vast majority of us would be pulling. Towing an Airstream in my books is presenting the truck in the best possible light with regards to towing. Very little wind resistance from them.
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
They aren't taking them put on a hwy so it doesn't really matter. Looked like a mile maybe. They just wanted something wide to sho off the mirrors.
@TheWookie_USN
@TheWookie_USN 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely true observation!
@legrandechene3734
@legrandechene3734 4 ай бұрын
Unless you heat soak it for a few hours on the Interstate the numbers will be off
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 4 ай бұрын
@@legrandechene3734 yea it should get better mpg on the interstate
@genehart261
@genehart261 4 ай бұрын
In 1990 I had a 2500 series Chevy with a 350 engine, 400TH transmission and 3.73 axle ratio. I was pulling a 29' Jayco travel trailer with a loaded weight of about 7000 lbs; consistent towing MPG of 10. Is this truck really an advantage?
@SuperSnakePlissken
@SuperSnakePlissken 4 ай бұрын
I doubt you were towing all that at 85 miles an hour down the highway. That’s the big difference between trucks today and trucks from 30 years ago.
@thebigguy
@thebigguy 4 ай бұрын
The thing that you have to remember is that the reason your old truck was able to do that is because emissions standards were much lower back then. All these new turbo engines got developed not because the manufacturers were striving for better MPG's, but because it was the only way to meet tougher emissions standards. I would really be interested to see what kind of MPG's they could get if they used modern tech without having to worry about emissions...
@pineychristian
@pineychristian Ай бұрын
​@SuperSnakePlissken not ideal to tow any trailer at 85 mph . Most trailer manufacturers will also tell you that
@stevenpeterson7234
@stevenpeterson7234 4 ай бұрын
Ill keep my 23 Nissan Titan Pro-4x 5.6 V8!!
@Yaboidavey
@Yaboidavey Ай бұрын
I mean.... you probably SHOULDNT buy a new truck every year.
@jsk.71
@jsk.71 4 ай бұрын
I still miss the days when power steering, power brakes & A/C was an option. And you could actually roll a basketball under the front bumper😂
@JosueLopezXIX
@JosueLopezXIX Ай бұрын
What gas grade you put?
@caseyl3631
@caseyl3631 4 ай бұрын
That LCD screen in the center of the dash looks like an afterthought. Makes me laugh. Good job Dodge!
@sanantoniotonight5569
@sanantoniotonight5569 4 ай бұрын
1400 pounds of payload? 4 passengers and that airstream tongue weight and you are way over payload.
@rockyjay55
@rockyjay55 4 ай бұрын
You can’t have any passangers with that payload.
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
@AJourneyOfYourSoul 4 ай бұрын
Tongue weight loaded is going to be 800-1200 lbs depending on how you load and hook up the trailer So 200-600 pounds of people and stuff in the truck. For anything over 5,000 pounds, I would get a 3/4-1 ton. The half tons can tow a lot, but they don’t have the payload to carry a lot of people and stuff in the truck while towing the higher weights.
@sanantoniotonight5569
@sanantoniotonight5569 4 ай бұрын
@@AJourneyOfYourSoul bingo….
@sanantoniotonight5569
@sanantoniotonight5569 4 ай бұрын
@@rockyjay55 exactly
@yankeesusa1
@yankeesusa1 4 ай бұрын
Almost $90,000 for this truck??? Wow
@shekharmoona544
@shekharmoona544 4 ай бұрын
I was thinking of getting a used Armada, or a Chevy Express to tow my airstream. Depending on dealership prices I would consider looking at a new 1500. Everytime I have gone to my dealerships they disappoint with the prices.
@chulzart
@chulzart 4 ай бұрын
83k for Laramie? now I'm laughing LOL
@johnmorris77
@johnmorris77 4 ай бұрын
I paid 39,600 for a 5th gen 2019 Laramie 4x4 crew cab… sticker was 54k I wouldn’t even consider paying 80k+ for the same truck with a new motor.
@roadglide1142
@roadglide1142 4 ай бұрын
So glad I just bought a work truck leftover 2023 Ram 2500 HD 6.4 V8 single cab 8’ bed Tradesman that I can work , plow snow with , & tow 14K with for $48K lmfao 😂. You can keep that overpriced 1500 turbo !
@mrshopjulius5840
@mrshopjulius5840 Ай бұрын
Hands down my favorite product It's all i recommend to my customers
@mikebianculli2614
@mikebianculli2614 2 ай бұрын
Tim out of all the trucks you have just drove or even bought witch one is your favorite
@MrRockyko
@MrRockyko 4 ай бұрын
That’s insane those prices
@TheJoeSwanon
@TheJoeSwanon Ай бұрын
$80,000 and you didn’t even get a sun roof
@bryanm4065
@bryanm4065 4 ай бұрын
You probably won't see many of these on the road at that price! It blows my mind anyone would spend that much for that truck. These are going to rott on dealer lots until they offer huge discounts. I feel sorry for anyone paying that much, they will get nailed on resale value.
@Expedition18
@Expedition18 4 ай бұрын
Watched your last vid with this truck and thought i heard 3:95 rear end ratio. With that wont matter what engine mileage will be poor because of rpm's. Could be a talking point for another vid?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that GM told me rear axle ratio doesn't matter for MPG and Ram tells me the opposite. I think it comes down to the transmission with extra gears for GM. They can basically mirror the performance of a 3.92 rear axle with the additional gearing while Ram still offers it. Good thought on a video.
@josephjohnson6626
@josephjohnson6626 4 ай бұрын
What is the warranty on the new motor and can I get the high output in a work truck?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Powertrain warranty hasn’t changed with 3 year/36,000 miles. No high output work truck unfortunately.
@arclay10
@arclay10 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@Pickuptrucktalkisn’t the power train warranty something like 5 years 60,000 miles, 3 years 36,000 is for the full warranty if I’m not mistaken
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
@@arclay10 That’s sounds better. Honestly, I did a quick Google search this morning.
@richshan529
@richshan529 4 ай бұрын
Question: When is the high output engine going to be available? And do you think that folks that don't opt for that engine are going to regret sticking with the regular straight six motor? Or is that engine really going to be enough for most buyers?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
I think the S/O is good for most people including myself. I don't need the extra power. It will be a few months until you can likely test drive a H/O engine. They are going to build Big Horn with Pentastar engines to begin and then all other engines and trims.
@richshan529
@richshan529 4 ай бұрын
@Pickuptrucktalk ...Thanks Tim! I can't wait to see all of what you do with your new truck. I'm interested in seeing how strong the new straight six motor is going to be, moving forward. In the meantime, I'll stick with my 21 Titan (5.6L V8) until I see what happens with this new engine. Then I'll consider the 25 Ram for my next truck down the road.
@brettradecki
@brettradecki 4 ай бұрын
Did they get rid of the daytime running lights on the lower trims? Also, incandescent taillights, wow. Huge step backwards.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
I don't recall them talking about daytime running lights at all. I've checked all the information they sent me and I don't have any details on DRLs.
@brettradecki
@brettradecki 4 ай бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk thanks Tim. Appreciate the video, especially covering the bighorn.
@jayray274
@jayray274 4 ай бұрын
@@PickuptrucktalkIf it’s Sold in Canada it’s a requirement usually the automaker will keep that component consistent here as well.
@rockyjay55
@rockyjay55 4 ай бұрын
Tow mirrors are very important when you’re towing .Sure safety technology helps but don’t rely on that.
@angrybeavers1175
@angrybeavers1175 4 ай бұрын
Sounds better than ecoboost but no v8
@JIPlatium
@JIPlatium 4 ай бұрын
Interesting that the payload is less than the Tundra. I didn't see anyone complaining about it like they did when you had the Tundra. What was the max tow?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
11,300.
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 4 ай бұрын
Not a Tundra w/ rear air. 1400lbs is respectable, considering the options and air suspension.
@calledout4437
@calledout4437 Күн бұрын
I want to know what the Ram Charger is expected to get with towing.
@wilmarbarrick3194
@wilmarbarrick3194 4 ай бұрын
10:48 Wuuut?? But, buh... Cybertruck Tim? 😂
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
No Cybertruck. Sorry to disappoint! LOL
@TheWookie_USN
@TheWookie_USN 4 ай бұрын
Not going to make me upset. However, anything with a turbo short of a large diesel is simply junk (having owned quite a few turbocharged “wife” cars). Let alone for towing! They simply dont last. And I’ll bet you $50 that just like the new Tundra, to replace a turbo on that will require a cab-off! Great while under warranty, break out the wallet if you’re past the warranty period. Good luck !
@jameseroh6544
@jameseroh6544 4 ай бұрын
With the 3.92 ratio and the right tires and shocks. Ford owners could be jealous 200k miles down the road. But I would upgrade the radiator and ceramic coat the turbo, exhaust manifold, and the exhaust pipe to the turbo.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Why do you think you need to upgrade the radiator and coat the other parts?
@jameseroh6544
@jameseroh6544 4 ай бұрын
@Pickuptrucktalk I live in Lancaster, CA. Anywhere I drive involves going over big hills. When I looked at a Wagoneer with this engine. Someone else finished a test drive and had the hood up. I just thought too much heat was coming off the engine and radiator. My Ecodiesel seemed cooler, even though it sometimes runs a little warm on I-70 in Utah. Our Cummins powered Ram 2500 is just fine. Some formulations of plasma sprayed material reject heat better than other materials. But way back in the 1970's, a guy I worked with had a Chevy Vega. He upgraded the radiator to a 3 row. His all aluminum engine worked fine for years. He only replaced the car because the interior plastic was rotting after 10 years of the California sun. When the Ram Ramcharger comes out. I will really have a hard choice about which pickup to trade my Ecodiesel in on. The Hurricane engine, Ramcharger, or the Chevy 3.0L diesel.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
@@jameseroh6544 fyi I’m working on an interview with the engineer chief and cooling is one of the topics. I’m hoping to get our timing figured out in the next few days. That would be a good video for you.
@jameseroh6544
@jameseroh6544 4 ай бұрын
Also, I had ceramic coated headers on an '03 Ford Explorer 4.0L. All the underhood plastic and rubber parts have been in good condition. I am currently getting caught up on the deferred maintenance. And plan to give the Explorer to my grandson. It looks like new inside and out!
@jameseroh6544
@jameseroh6544 4 ай бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk- I look forward to any video you present to us.
@NMTRUCKER
@NMTRUCKER 4 ай бұрын
Great video. But $83K for a mid-level RAM😮. I wonder what the noise level inside the cab is at highway speeds with those huge towing mirrors?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Funny you mention that. I heard some wind noise and I should have said that on camera.
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 4 ай бұрын
Its mostly how this one was spec'd out. Ramboxes and air suspension are $5000 alone.
@NMTRUCKER
@NMTRUCKER 4 ай бұрын
@@hellkitty1014 OK but then you’re talking $78K for a mid-level 1/2 ton. In ‘23 I bought a GMC SIERRA SLT 1500 4x4 with the 3 liter diesel, multifunction tailgate, 2-speed transfer case, x-31 off road package, SLT preferred and convenience packages for $65K. This was considered a mid-level truck. In 2019 I looked at a RAM1500 Laramie also well specked out and it was like $52K. Yikes🤔
@NMTRUCKER
@NMTRUCKER 4 ай бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk And you weren’t traveling at highway speeds.
@IATG-tl3jf
@IATG-tl3jf 4 ай бұрын
There are some serious issues here they never addressed from out going model. Those payload numbers are horrible. 1400 lbs - 700 lb hitch weight - 300 lbs of fuel weight leaves only 400 lbs of weight for passengers and gear. I’m 280 lbs so no gear or passengers for me. Bad design with no substance for an inflated price.
@caseyl3631
@caseyl3631 4 ай бұрын
EPA killed the V8. I'm skeptical of the turbo 6, but the I6 design should be a huge improvement over the v6 especially when trying to turbo one. I think Dodge has a good chance at a winner here. But there's no replacement for displacement. An itty bitty 3.0L engine working hard it's whole life just isn't going to last. Which makes 83k amortize over too short a duration. This truck will run you broke. Avoid!
@krizcarloz9880
@krizcarloz9880 4 ай бұрын
Are you in Canada? Because the Tungsten starts at 87k. Here
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Nope. Nebraska.
@JDMHero47
@JDMHero47 4 ай бұрын
I've said it in other videos, & I'll say it again -- I'm not getting why the mpg's that reviewers are recording (even hand-calc'd) are so low... 1/2 of the epa rating while towing?? You're joking, right? I'd expect that truck right there (with a 5.7L hemi) to get at least 13mpg doing 65mph in the oregon mountains. I'll wait till the end of the video, but people's towing mpg expectations are really really low these days 🙄🙄
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
I get that number after the massive towing test I put out.
@is6566
@is6566 4 ай бұрын
A V8 HEMI towing and a turbo engine towing will behave drastically different for mpg. The turbo will drop way more than the NA V8. Any turbo will do this ie the Tacoma turbo 4 at TFL had half the mpg when towing.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 4 ай бұрын
He was doing more start/stopping type of towing in this review. A constant speed on the interstate of 65mph should bring up the mpgs
@chadwegner2705
@chadwegner2705 3 ай бұрын
I don't think it helps when you reset the mpg to zero and then idle for 2 minutes at 0 mpg while you talk either.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 3 ай бұрын
@@chadwegner2705 2 minutes of idling isn’t going to make any difference.
@briandonald
@briandonald 4 ай бұрын
Didn’t you say it has air ride? No coil springs if so.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
IIRC that's what the slip of paper said. Sorry, I don't have time at press events to double check everything.
@briandoty438
@briandoty438 4 ай бұрын
In you ZR2 diesel video, 1432lbs of payload was a top 5 "dislike". That was for an off-road truck. This street/towing optioned Ram has 1423lbs of payload and you simply gloss over it, without comment. Hmm.... Also, $83k?!?!?!
@is6566
@is6566 4 ай бұрын
Launch event. You should look up the (ex)-car journalist’s video about his Volkswagen launch event experience. I forgot the channel’s name. Launch event and negative comments don’t mix or that was your last launch event.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
I read that article and that guy was full of shit. We all made fun of his stupidity. I glossed it over because there is a TON of information to cover at these events, nothing more than that. You just don't have the time to cover things as well as you'd like. When I get it for a press loan or I buy one, I'll have more time to discuss payload numbers and a host of other things I missed.
@is6566
@is6566 4 ай бұрын
Ok I stand corrected but I still have a hard time thinking of a single launch event video of any channel of any brand where a single negative comment is mentioned about any aspect of the vehicle in review. What I found was that you better read between the lines. Some channels might do a damn with faint praise comment. Or an understatement, like, “Maybe this new Tacoma doesn’t have a vastly improved rear seat legroom “. 😃 Nobody will say at the Tacoma launch event:”This rear seat leg room is terrible.” And that’s fine. You don’t sh$t on the carpet at a the host’s house if you are an invited guest in good company, either.
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
@@is6566 it's not that you can't say anything negative. I've left many launch events and didn't love the vehicle and I've said it on camera. Instead, it is more of information overload. You are bombarded with an hour plus of presentations and then boom you get to drive for less than 2 hours in most cases. Like with this event. Presentation didn't get over until 10 am, then we drove to lunch, ate and were back in the bus by 3 pm. You have to film interior, exterior, do a towing demo, off-road portion, KZfaq shorts, photos, etc... Its a LOT. You don't have time to really critique things because you are focusing on everything that is new and different. I did say I didn't like the tow mirrors that much in this video. So I got one critique in. I also have another video that just went live discussing how the H/O engine is fun, but not something I'd pay for because of the premium fuel requirement. So I did offer some critiques. The big thing to remember is if every review is OMG this is AMAZING that's not really helpful to viewers OR the automakers. The automakers are far more interested in what I don't like versus what I do. They can fix what I don't IF I tell them what I don't like. You can't fix what you don't know is broken as the saying goes.
@briandoty438
@briandoty438 4 ай бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk I get it. I was just fresh off watching that video obviously. Lol. It's all good. Enjoy your content.
@kurtfirestone2761
@kurtfirestone2761 4 ай бұрын
That engine sound sounds almost like a V8
@TheRealestHi
@TheRealestHi 2 ай бұрын
Wow it costs double what I paid for my home.
@rodgood
@rodgood 4 ай бұрын
Did they have an older 5.7 there so you could compare ? If not, i think i know the reason .
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Nope. What's your thought on the reason?
@rodgood
@rodgood 4 ай бұрын
Reviewers might find that overall the six is not an improvement ?@@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
@@rodgoodI suppose. A lot of manufacturers bring the past model to test drive at events. Honestly, I wouldn't have had time to drive it. I completely missed the off-road portion, for example, due to filming other stuff and a massive headache. Just what it was.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 4 ай бұрын
@@rodgood If you can get almost the same hp with a 6 as you can with an 8 cylinder, that means the 8 cylinder is wasting almost ¼ of the gas you bought.
@rodgood
@rodgood 4 ай бұрын
So the Six will get 25% better fuel economy ?@@garysarratt1
@mclovin6629
@mclovin6629 4 ай бұрын
The straight six should've been a 4.0 instead, To handle the power 🤦🏽‍♂️
@ejshelby5460
@ejshelby5460 3 ай бұрын
2025 is already out in early 2024?
@wingman8447
@wingman8447 4 ай бұрын
Let’s take a look at that engine bay
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Great critic. I should have done that. I did put a chassis walkaround in the Big Horn video.
@angrybeavers1175
@angrybeavers1175 4 ай бұрын
Already out there looks clean, miles ahead of ford's mess
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
@@angrybeavers1175 funny how much a plastic engine cover can clean up the engine bay. LOL Yeah, there are photos of it from corporate and you can find it online.
@MrTonaluv
@MrTonaluv 4 ай бұрын
​@@angrybeavers1175stupid comment an engine cover does what? Traps heat and dust and is only for looks and is one more thing to remove when doing repairs.
@Alucio97
@Alucio97 4 ай бұрын
Just crazy how both the Laramie and rebel are now the same price as the new tungsten did they not think about how dumb that is that makes the tungsten a better buy especially with the H.O SST. Just crazy really messing up in my opinion this will affect the sales.
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 2 ай бұрын
The Ram looks dated. I'd say that the complete body style update is behind by about six years because of the slow updates from Ram.
@hibbasc1
@hibbasc1 3 ай бұрын
I was under the impression payload ratings on the 2025 1500 was noticeably increased? 1400 pounds is less than my 2018 had.
@pineychristian
@pineychristian Ай бұрын
I have found almost all the electronic dash for the MPG is never accurate. Always need for manually calculating the MPG
@briandonald
@briandonald 4 ай бұрын
The engine doesn’t sound bad at all. Is that the natural sound or is it some piped in shenanigans? lol
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Natural.
@SliderFury1
@SliderFury1 4 ай бұрын
I swear, pretty soon we're gonna get like a "2032" vehicle in 2028 😂
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
Credit to Ram for being on the ball. Everyone else misses their release dates. Ram was selling 2019 new models in April of 2018 also. Ford can't get 2024s to the lots. Same with Tacomas.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 4 ай бұрын
@@Dusdaddy Ram is selling 2019 models as “new” in 2024 🙄
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
@@garysarratt1 Ahh, you're downplaying the "new" part? Think about it, Ram hasn't had a different engine since the Hemi was introduced over 20 years ago. Yeah, it qualifies as new.
@garysarratt1
@garysarratt1 4 ай бұрын
@@Dusdaddy The Classic?
@Dusdaddy
@Dusdaddy 4 ай бұрын
@@garysarratt1 The classic is the 2012 design which was a mild refresh of the 2009.
@ned8936
@ned8936 4 ай бұрын
That center stack is frigging gaudy. I'll take my '23 Chev any day.
@nordlandak6853
@nordlandak6853 4 ай бұрын
What’s funny is right now u can get a 24 Laramie for less than the bighorn you’re buying. Hell I bet u get a limited for less. The new engine and bigger grill not worth it…
@mrnobody5989
@mrnobody5989 4 ай бұрын
A 3 Camshaft engine. Wow
@DM-tf6mk
@DM-tf6mk 4 ай бұрын
Nice truck, but prices are absurd!
@robertannable9584
@robertannable9584 4 ай бұрын
You do not need 10 gears in the tranny. The ZF 8-speed is the very best auto transmission money can buy. It is a perfect pairing with the HEMI, so this should be even smoother, due to the inline architecture. RAM's 8-speed never hunts for gears. Ever. Ford and Toyota cannot say that.
@paulhunter9613
@paulhunter9613 4 ай бұрын
I can say that ford does not hunt for gears. Ever
@Eightball2516
@Eightball2516 4 ай бұрын
Nope I will keep my hemi they can have this twin turbo night mare
@WeSRT4
@WeSRT4 2 ай бұрын
Ain't no way i'd pay that!
@briandonald
@briandonald 4 ай бұрын
83k for a Laramie? Wow. Is that a Night Edition or do they all come with no chrome?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
Night edition.
@reggiecoles6616
@reggiecoles6616 4 ай бұрын
$83k 😮😮😮 don’t think so!!
@shanebrown2963
@shanebrown2963 4 ай бұрын
Their prices are just astronomical asinine!! They are already having hard time selling trucks and now they are upping the price even more.
@M_dot202
@M_dot202 2 ай бұрын
Why would you worry about turbo reliability? See class 8 trucks with turbos...
@pallen807
@pallen807 2 ай бұрын
Understand people the knew Hurricane engine only has more horsepower than the current 5.7 hemi engine when the turbos are spooling when the turbos are not spooling this inline 6 is making less power HP an TQ than the 5.7 V8 therefore to make power you will be making the turbos spool more sucking up more gas. it is not a better engine for towing but better on gas for daily driving
@cs1992
@cs1992 4 ай бұрын
The price. The price. The price. 😳
@ringa8600
@ringa8600 4 ай бұрын
83k in Canadian dollars, right? Right?
@Pickuptrucktalk
@Pickuptrucktalk 4 ай бұрын
LOL. Nope.
@jimmyspencer4019
@jimmyspencer4019 4 ай бұрын
Very good looking truck. Definitely will be on my radar when I'm in the market and rams hurricane is proven to be reliable
@anthonygasparini1734
@anthonygasparini1734 4 ай бұрын
$82,000 dollars! 😂😂😂😂
@CarlosRTorres-mq1cu
@CarlosRTorres-mq1cu 4 ай бұрын
VERY EXPENSIVE
@Redfour5
@Redfour5 3 ай бұрын
I'm hearing a bit of a growl there, not as deep, but there.
@giovannimartinez2145
@giovannimartinez2145 4 ай бұрын
Man that’s a lot of money You might as well buy a base model Ford Raptor they’ll hold their value more
@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly 4 ай бұрын
Raptors hold their value better because of the intentional short supply from Ford, but Ford limited is the same price as a Tungsten
@privateer9181
@privateer9181 4 ай бұрын
a 6.4 would get better gas milage than 10
@frankkeel8410
@frankkeel8410 4 ай бұрын
Why dont you tow a Grey Hound Bus? Who has a air stream may be plane!
@jimbov23
@jimbov23 4 ай бұрын
$83k........wow.
@aesho46
@aesho46 4 ай бұрын
Ram didn’t do enough, they will continue begging people to buy for 10-20k under msrp
@blackericdenice
@blackericdenice 3 күн бұрын
When I bought my 2016 F150 2.7 new. I was not worried about the turbos. I've own turbo before and they don't go bad as often as people online think. I'm @ 104k miles and I went 8,500 miles before my last oil change. I didn't have to add any oil.
@dakotabrown6850
@dakotabrown6850 4 ай бұрын
Anyone who pays that much for the truck that hasn’t changed that much. Is a sucker.
@jw8578
@jw8578 4 ай бұрын
83k for a Laramie. Crazy.
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