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Five Of The Easiest CRPGs

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Mortismal Gaming

Mortismal Gaming

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Just talking about what I consider to be some of the easier cRPG's you can play!
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01:29 Wasteland 3
03:00 DOS2
04:56 BG1
06:47 PoE2
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@Lemurion287
@Lemurion287 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, I have all these games. Still as a person in my (very) late fifties, I really appreciate games that rely on knowledge rather than reflexes. I can still learn... I don't have quick motor skills.
@bobxbaker
@bobxbaker Жыл бұрын
i'm starting to feel that way now where i just don't want to be bothered to be on the edge of my seat just to enjoy myself, oddly enough i do play games that usually require quick motor skills but somehow i manage to eliminate most of the need for quick accurate reactions by simply trying to know pre-emptively what's gonna happen so it's more about timing. kinda like learning a song and just going through the motion. but yeah it gets tiresome and that's where just being able to play a game at your own pace is so very nice.
@Jadegreif
@Jadegreif Жыл бұрын
One personal point I'd like to add is, that a game like say Divity 2 or Pillars2 offer great posibilites for role playing setups, basically your own house rules. My most fun run in Divinty 2 was an all Undead party. Or a character who will only use one type of weapon, or going with a smaller party again for roleplaying reasons etc. The easier games offer you much more options here to still finish the game with a setup the Devs wouldn't have considered in their balancing.
@complexfrost7076
@complexfrost7076 Жыл бұрын
I used 4 characters in wasteland 3 because 6 seemed like a headache. Would say it made the game easier but the smaller party just made it so I had to spend less equipment on my team.
@ducky36F
@ducky36F Жыл бұрын
The scope of role playing in DOS2 is one of my favourite things about it
@johnwatkins3883
@johnwatkins3883 Жыл бұрын
Well the first one is never played that 2nd
@aSSGoblin1488
@aSSGoblin1488 Жыл бұрын
divinity 2 has a large difficulty disparity between classic and tactician 🥺🥺🥺 had to redo a playthrough when i spend an hour fighting crocodile
@nikmenn2751
@nikmenn2751 Жыл бұрын
It's DOS 2, not just Divinity, the latter one was an action-rpg from 2012 where you played as the least Dragon Knight sixty years after Divine Lucian has fucked EVERYTHING up.
@1234kalmar
@1234kalmar Жыл бұрын
Divinity 2's combat system boils down to one simple thing: "How much can you cheese the teleport abilities." Still, a pretty good game
@Enigmalake
@Enigmalake Жыл бұрын
Pretty good? 🤔 gasp 😆
@BobRoss-hn8wl
@BobRoss-hn8wl Жыл бұрын
That and chain stuns, still love it though lol
@finix7419
@finix7419 Жыл бұрын
nothing in dos2 cheesed the game more than necro/physical crit build with bloodstorms ,lohse single handedly killed most enemies with bloodstorm ,even doctor was cheesed by this you did not even need to move let alone teleport lol although obviously you won't get to bloodstorm until mid game and this was done by regular 4man not 2man cheese mode
@MrHighRaw
@MrHighRaw Жыл бұрын
Two words - 'Terrain Transmutation'. Gotta be on of the most overlooked spells in Div 2 but I cheesed more of act 2 and 3 just teleporting lava onto people. Made Tactician pretty easy tbh but got damn do I love that game. Oh, and The Doctor was nuts.
@finix7419
@finix7419 Жыл бұрын
@@3toadbroth I played DOS1 with epic encounters even though it looked like it was better first few hours ,later on it was just plain downgrade from original
@Schizm1
@Schizm1 Жыл бұрын
Every time I see how goddamn gorgeous PoE 2: Deadfire is, I want to play it again;)
@Whirl435
@Whirl435 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough this literally made me reinstall it because I haven't played it since the final DLC came out :D
@SaftonYT
@SaftonYT Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to get through it right now. I love parts of it, but other bits of it I'm a bit "meh" towards. I really loved the first Pillars. Knowing that the series is effectively dead in the water certainly doesn't help my enthusiasm lol.
@finix7419
@finix7419 Жыл бұрын
funny I always wished it looked better just like a modern 3d game so when I have 15seconds loading time on ssd every 15seconds in big cities like neketaka I would not say 'wow I never thought a 2d looking game has much more loading screens than beautiful games like witcher 3 and skyrim "
@ThaWolferine
@ThaWolferine Жыл бұрын
Art style is peak crpg territory. Adore PoE 1 and 2 so much.
@scalpingsnake
@scalpingsnake Жыл бұрын
One thing that is interesting with DOS2 is how larian specifically add cheese tactics into their games. Other developers would eradicate it from their games but if you pay attention to their games and how they talk about them (noticed it with BG3's dev logs too) they add the cheese tactics in and then let you as a player decide if you want to utilize them.
@jameswhearry1
@jameswhearry1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that because only real gamer play any type of rpg game that going take 50+ hours to beat, and we won't use them too after we finish are 1st playthrough
@557punisher
@557punisher Жыл бұрын
@@jameswhearry1 not only real gamers dick only gamers with an interest in the genre and long play throughs
@jameswhearry1
@jameswhearry1 Жыл бұрын
@@557punisher ooooh, ok tough guy
@557punisher
@557punisher Жыл бұрын
@@jameswhearry1 what's tough about me? I just pointed out a condescending statement you made that was just not true.... but if that sounded tough to you maybe you're just soft🤷🏾‍♂️
@jameswhearry1
@jameswhearry1 Жыл бұрын
@@557punisher my statement wasn't. I said nothing about having interests in a game. I said real gamers won't use cheats to win in a rpg.. before beating the game. Any gamer can play a long play through, your statement don't make sense. Just because you use a cheese in a game, won't make u beat the game any faster. You would've been better off, saying any gamer that has real interest in the game would play a honest new game.
@frontendchaos
@frontendchaos Жыл бұрын
Found your channel a couple weeks ago, loving your content. Sooo many of these games sit in my backlog without trying them, after watching your vids I definitely want to give them a shot.
@belifhetthe7th521
@belifhetthe7th521 Жыл бұрын
I found BG2+ToB easy I managed to solo the game as a monk cause I hated having to wait for my party members and at the time I was a teen so I didn't understand the mechanics that well, I only struggled against magic immune enemies and the Dragon at the elven city
@KingslayerSrb
@KingslayerSrb 9 ай бұрын
yeah me too. I first played BG2 as a thirteen year old, on core rules (or however the heck was that difficulty called). with only a basic understanding of English language, with four fighters and my main character as a Wizard Slayer (which objectively is one of the worst kits in the game). I don't think I truly understood what THAC0 meant until like my third play through, and didn't really grasp the various magical counters and counter-counters back then. Still finished it and don't really recall it posing any challenge. Now, Might and Magic VII... That game for my 13 years old ass was TOUGH. Not because the game is objectively hard mind you, but because of how utterly terrified I was of those ghosts in dwarf lands, of medusas in the mines and other things. That was one of my first 3D games I've played, and it was quite an experience.
@MrGouldilocks
@MrGouldilocks Жыл бұрын
The BG series got harder as I got older. When I played it as a teenager, I knew the system inside and out and the game was a cakewalk. I tried replaying it a year or two ago and found it quite a bit harder since I had forgotten many of the quirks and intricacies of the system.
@stevenwoodward5923
@stevenwoodward5923 Жыл бұрын
My good computer broke down a few months ago (the one with a good video card). I had to buy a inexpensive lap top. So I can only play older game, and I am now playing BG1EE and agree with you. I first played it when it first came out in 1998 so I have also gotten older too I am 64. It has gotten harder, but still loving it.
@hellomadet
@hellomadet Жыл бұрын
Returning to old crpg games after not playing them many years, made me realize how unforgiving and brutal they were.
@andrewkelly6828
@andrewkelly6828 Жыл бұрын
It did for me too, but only because I got way less okay with cheese. When I played that as a teenager I was totally okay with exploiting it (i.e., casting dozens of cloudkill spells just outside the fog of war to kill tough bosses/mages, etc.). Now I want to play everything "legitimately."
@robinmattheussen2395
@robinmattheussen2395 Жыл бұрын
I dunno, I played Throne of Bhaal back when it came out, and I have always thought of that game as very challenging. I think it's challenging now, and it used to be back in the day. I realize that I'm probably a worse than most people though, despite decades of experience *ahem*.
@ezet
@ezet Жыл бұрын
One thing to mind is that the enhanced edition on BG1 (and IWD1) can be a lot easier than the standard as you get the class kits. many of them are just OP for BG1
@Spitefulrish
@Spitefulrish Жыл бұрын
Agree with this list. I struggled with Divinity 2 the first run because it didn’t quite work the way I expected. But once I wrapped my head around a few things it’s a walk in the park.
@derekofbaltimore
@derekofbaltimore Жыл бұрын
Depends on where that park is lol
@1234kalmar
@1234kalmar Жыл бұрын
Cheese that teleport! :D
@1234kalmar
@1234kalmar Жыл бұрын
@@Ryudoz26 What kinda mods would you recommend?
@Zaphispo
@Zaphispo Жыл бұрын
lmao how is it a good list. Once I finished the game the game is easy
@derekofbaltimore
@derekofbaltimore Жыл бұрын
@@Ryudoz26 lol i was making fun of the phrase "walk in the park"
@shawngillogly6873
@shawngillogly6873 Жыл бұрын
Another factor leading into BG being easy now is that BG EE includes the kits from BG2. And Gaider has said the game was never balanced for the kit classes. Many of which provide immunity to debuffs that terrorize the player, especially in the early game. Play a Cavalier, you're immune to fear. Everything casts fear in the early game. Which means by the time the wizard gets to casting his second spell, he's had his head caved in by the Cavalier's immune sword. Similarly, undead hunters, immune to paralysis and level drain. Ghouls and Ghasts are two of the most scary enemies in the early game...normally. The undead hunter can virtually solo them.
@GastNdorf
@GastNdorf Жыл бұрын
Or a barbarian who can be immune to all this at the same time under barbaric rage, on top of being pretty tanky and strong… yep just a full team of dual wielding barbs you throw on Sarevok to shred him into 10 second even in Legacy of Bhaal difficulty
@LORDOFDORKNESS42
@LORDOFDORKNESS42 Жыл бұрын
Shadowrun: Returns is my go-to example I'd use for somebody wanting to get into RPGs. Simple systems that get introduced as you play, with the more complicated stuff typically held back. A good yet simple story. An interesting world with both tech & magic. And it's got some really good visuals & music for an indie, AA title. It's only real flaw is the amount of text without voice-over. (And some bugs.) I've heard folks complain about that even in Returns, but I'd argue that's a personal preference in RPGs anyway.
@fitzviandraduivenab2790
@fitzviandraduivenab2790 Жыл бұрын
Man i really want more Shadowrun games. I recently finished Hong Kong and left wanting for more.
@LORDOFDORKNESS42
@LORDOFDORKNESS42 Жыл бұрын
@@fitzviandraduivenab2790 I can recommend Hare-Brained Schemes other game, Battletech. It's a bit love or hate, but it's one of the most unique takes on a strategy title I've played in recent years. One of the best, well, Battletech games of all time, too. You'll either play it for an hour and quit in disgust for a refund, or be enraptured for 100+ hours. So I'd call it a pretty safe game to try out at least.
@scullyy
@scullyy Жыл бұрын
Funny seeing Deadfire, but you're right. I've been struggling with solo runs on Potd and constantly think to myself just how insanely easy it would be with just *one* extra party member, let alone four.
@simonvasvary4847
@simonvasvary4847 Жыл бұрын
I'm playing Deadfire through for my second time, this time on PoTD with upscaling (but still with a full party), and I'm finding it to be challenging enough. I mean, it's clearly not as difficult as some CRPGs on their highest difficulties, but I'm not finding it to be cakewalk by any means. (Conversely, PoTD without scaling does become pretty easy as soon as you out-level the enemies even a little).
@scullyy
@scullyy Жыл бұрын
@@simonvasvary4847 There's a significant amount of cheese required for solo runs. I suspect it's impossible to solo potd with turn based mode on.
@daniel.holbrook
@daniel.holbrook Жыл бұрын
I think DOS2 has a reputation of being really hard because it's one of the only CRPGs in recent years that's managed to attract a playerbase beyond those that typically play CRPGs. It can be tricky if you don't cheese it but it's super easy to cheese and the ruleset is very easy to learn. DOS1's a lot harder to me, I dunno if that's because of the game's jankiness or lack of balance or just because I'm so used to the second one
@JohnArktor
@JohnArktor Жыл бұрын
strongly disagree as I am a long time crpg player, and find dos2 unplayable. both because of the horrible horrible horrible camera, and the complete unbalance of the game. also the lack of all that balanced these issues, in the previous game dos1, like humour.
@SeregaOrgan
@SeregaOrgan Жыл бұрын
@@JohnArktor keep us posted please
@Goodwarrior12345
@Goodwarrior12345 Жыл бұрын
Dunno. I'm a long-time RPG player, long-time Divinity fan also (ever since their 2002 game!). I played both games shortly after they first came out. D:OS2 gave me much more of a beating than D:OS1 ever did. In Original Sin 1 I just stunlocked everyone until they were dead. Can't do that reliably in 2 because of the armour system. I had to cheese and respec a ton to get through some moments. I mean shit I only managed to beat the game on my first Tactician run because I found an incredibly OP way to cheese the game. It was also my first time going through the game so I didn't know how to build my character and how to handle some things. Now that I'm doing a CO-OP Tactician run, things are going way smoother, because 1) I know how to spec properly now, 2) I know how to position before the fight starts, 3) the sets they added are actually broken as hell, 4) god damn, having a rogue and adrenaline skilled helps a ton lol. And yet, the game is still genuinely difficult. Fights are challenging and we still get destroyed quite regularly. I agree that it gets easier once you learn the game's systems (as all games do, naturally), and that it allows you to cheese the ever-living fuck out of it if you so desire, but personally I choose not to do that too much because after all, it's not a ranked competitive game or whatever, and I choose to play in the way most fun for me.
@Commandasaurus
@Commandasaurus Жыл бұрын
I agree with you assessment. I had problems with DOS2 and POE2DF, but after playing some hours, restarting with new characters, learning the ropes... the mechanics got very familiar and from then on I just could play. It is practically the same with tabletop-rpgs, since if you study them carefully and begin playing, you get better eventually. The learning curve is very fair, rough start, but once it clicks, very easy.
@Biouke
@Biouke Жыл бұрын
My order of priority when building a character/team : 1. Roleplay/theme 2. "Fun" factor (ie. find a playstyle that I enjoy) 3. Min-maxing So I still find some "easy" games difficult because I try to do things my way as much as I can. I think judging by the amount of save-scumming needed to progress in a game I agree Shadowrun is the easiest of the bunch. Divinity 2 and Encased would come next. Now I'm more a White Wolf guy than a Wizards Of The Coast dude so I remember having a hard time with Baldur's Gate 2 and both Icewind Dale titles, I tried and tried but never finished them. There was always a point I got stuck on some battle gauntlet, not impossible to go through per say, but requiring too much planning ahead and getting lucky during fights to make it a chore. I really get bored by door-monster-treasure design. Often in CRPGs there's too much separation, like you spend hours going around a city hub doing errands then spend hours in a dungeon. When I think about it urban settings alleviate this a bit, intertwining fights, puzzles and story is easier and the game flows better as a result. But you see it more in immersive sims and action-RPGs than CRPGs. Again Shadowrun does a great job with this, Dragonfall in particular.
@ERHershman1
@ERHershman1 Жыл бұрын
One wrinkle about BG1 that makes me dissent a bit from calling it easy: there is a certain randomness in the D&D system concerning whether you, and your enemies, will succeed or fail at saving throws. Early in BG1, some fights can just be instant TPKs if your characters fail their saves against a horror spell, for instance. Like, if you miss your initial attacks against the guy who tries to kill you on the steps of the Friendly Arm Inn, you might as well reload, because he sets off his horror spell and proceeds to pummel you with missiles until you die.
@azazel8938
@azazel8938 Жыл бұрын
Honestly why don't you have 1 million subscribers already man.. I found your channel maybe about a year and a half ago and ever since then I've had a pretty dedicated watcher. Do you have basically completely turned me on to the CRPG genre and I am so happy to have found your channel because that made such an impact on my gaming life. Anyway just wanted to comment because usually never do that and say that your channel is amazing and I really look forward to watching your videos for a long time to come!
@letefte
@letefte Жыл бұрын
PoE 2 has become infamous for being a joke in terms of difficulty. I would also add Disco Elysium on the list as an honorary mention. Now, I am very interested to see what games end up on the “other” list. My money is on Underrail.
@mrcopycat2355
@mrcopycat2355 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! Shadowrun series was a joy to play through. I specially loved all the improvements in Dragonfall. Cant come back to "Returns" anymore... Ironic!
@s4nder86
@s4nder86 10 ай бұрын
The interface is the worst I've seen in an RPG, I gave up in less than an hour. No keyboard shortcuts, nothing.
@Davlavi
@Davlavi Жыл бұрын
This channel deserves way more views. Keep up the great videos.🙏
@Platerade
@Platerade Жыл бұрын
My favorite use of summons in BG1 is to swarm the final boss with mobs and then cast entangle. HE isn't effected but he needs to deal with the monsters before he can safely swing at you... and the whole time at least one party member with a composite bow has been peppering him. Usually its my dude Kivan.
@Jonaleth
@Jonaleth Жыл бұрын
The boss has a mage with him, doesnt he just fireball them?
@Platerade
@Platerade Жыл бұрын
@@Jonaleth sometimes yeah but none of the boss team are as much of a threat as the big man himself and its not too unlikely that you wipe them all before he's taken serious damage due to his high level, AC, and immunity to magic damage. And if the mage is hit with entangle they are really easy to take down before he throws a wrench in your plans. ...honestly that fight is so hard the first time you run it it'll take a few tries to get what works best
@ganzgrosseskino
@ganzgrosseskino Жыл бұрын
I think some of the cases can be described or categorised as "easy to min/max" which, once the player takes the deliberate choice, become easy games due to this. I don't want to say the Divinity (...) 2 was the hardest game ever but we did not do any of those things and just built characters that were good in their niche and even then not all battles were super-challenging, but at least some of the harder ones.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Like I said, easy/hard is all pretty subjective and you're welcome to interpret it however floats your boat
@otelloreichmann6576
@otelloreichmann6576 Жыл бұрын
DOS2 was my first CRPG, explorer mode was tough when I first started so I thought the game is difficult, but after beating the game twice, tactician was a cake walk. Relentless onslaught obliterates anyone, you can be low HP before the fight and use forced exchange, use living on the edge etc. and most of all you can kill one enemy, run, repeat. Although the fight after you learn of the aeteran and the one with the demon who possesses your party members are still highly difficult on tactician.
@bobbenson6825
@bobbenson6825 Жыл бұрын
I play DOS2 on Tactician as lone wolf with 2 characters. I should make my MC a human once but I enjoy the one-on-one interactions with only 2 of the preset characters. Lone wolf can also make the game relatively easy if you set up the characters for it, but you can force the difficulty by fudging the skills a bit. Fane is the best, regardless.
@Dermetsu
@Dermetsu Жыл бұрын
Pretty good list.
@user-rk2xi7iw9k
@user-rk2xi7iw9k Жыл бұрын
Fallout 1 with a sniper/crit build turns you into a walking death machine.
@johnreeves5152
@johnreeves5152 6 ай бұрын
I am old school and I agree with you on Baldur's Gate 1 difficulty. It doesn't have any of the instant death that Baldur's Gate 2 has, and I think the difficulty is the 2nd edition rules themselves and learning where to go.
@LastSider
@LastSider Жыл бұрын
Just finished Baldurs Gate 1 I would say its easy except for 2-3 fights and where wizards can stun your whole party unless you single them out of the map screen. AoE effects like Tangle, Hold Person, Stun, Confuse, Charm, Fear(they all do the same thing as is "disable").... are huge and will disable your party for minutes, real time minutes. Multiple times I would AFK for minutes until a party member, traps, or AoE effects had his "disable" status go away or the AoE/Trap effect stop. Dunno about DOS 2. How combat goes for me in DOS 2, Combat Start, First Turn-> Enemies -1 shot- in 1 turn kill someone in my party... ok, even my "Tank". Got to the marshes, and after a few hours of the same feeling.... nope. And then I dont like how Quests are made for this game and I will just keep my thoughts about it since many players like how it is, dont wanna poke the hornet nest about it. Will come back to it maybe later in the year either in Easy or Story mode.
@evilsdemise1287
@evilsdemise1287 Жыл бұрын
Cool little video. Didn't know you had a BG1 guide video, I'll need to check that out because I want to play BG1.
@Shikao87
@Shikao87 Жыл бұрын
Difficulty of learning a system is also quite subjective matter
@SaftonYT
@SaftonYT Жыл бұрын
I've tried the first two Baldur's Gate games but couldn't get into them at all. I wanted to love them and found a lot about them initially very attractive: the character creation, the lore, the dialogue, etc. But the combat system, micromanagement, and inventory system was utterly overwehlming for me last time I attempted it and I quickly gave up on it. I've considered giving them another try on Story Mode now that I have more experience with RTWP games and all so that I can have a better understanding of the lore prior to BG3 coming out, but I may just end up watching videos instead lol.
@dempa3
@dempa3 Жыл бұрын
I found Baldur's Gate very easy. It was as simple as getting in way over my head, getting my behind signed and delivered to me, loading, and repeating the procedure. Easy, but tedious. Until one discovers the wand of summoning. Jokes aside, Baldur's Gate doesn't have the same amount of choice for character progression as DnD 3.0/3.5. On the one hand it might be less overwhelming, on the other hand, since combat is a very significant part of the BG-games, I find the combat gets somewhat boring. The story, setting, characters are great though. I think some cRPGs would've benefited from using the d20 system, instead of inventing their own. Not because d20 is great, but simply because players might be familiar and the challenge is not to study up on a new system, but to overcome some challenge in the game itself. Developers could put more of their time in to other aspects of the game, and players more time in to actual playing. Unless they're making a rule set to communicate unique and interesting ideas in the game.
@Hrafnskald
@Hrafnskald Жыл бұрын
Agreed, though in fairness, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 is older than the d20 system :)
@dempa3
@dempa3 Жыл бұрын
@@Hrafnskald That is very true and very fair! I was being incoherent, and changed train of thought somewhat. My criticism was directed at games in the cRPG-revival era. But on the other hand, I'm very glad that we have this revival of cRPG and will study whatever the developers come up with. :O)
@lanagievski1540
@lanagievski1540 Жыл бұрын
Very much agree on BG1. I’m a complete newbie and once I took a good amount of time understanding the systems, everything else was relatively straightforward
@osn19
@osn19 Жыл бұрын
Looking for the best one with the less possible dialogues / cutscenes. Any recommendation ?
@tacbravo6374
@tacbravo6374 Жыл бұрын
This is one of your better videos, Mortym! Another cRPG where the challenge is mastering the system but the combat is easy is Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children. Metagaming the system is helping me progress faster. Can you please produce a video about how you "learn" or research some of these systems? What specific resources do you use? I want to learn anything I can about your 100% approach to help with eventually completing more of the games in my library. A fair number of your other subscribers and members are looking to do the same. Thank you for all you do, Sir!
@stevenwoodward5923
@stevenwoodward5923 Жыл бұрын
My good computer broke down a few months ago (the one with a good video card). I had to buy a inexpensive lap top. So I can only play older game, and I am now playing BG1EE. I played BG when it first came out back in 1998, and still loving it today.
@Alexanderrr3r
@Alexanderrr3r Жыл бұрын
DLC for BG1 are pretty difficult though.
@Throrface
@Throrface Жыл бұрын
Hey Mortim, there is a series of RPGs that have been a major part of my childhood and I wonder if you ever checked them out? One of them is getting an updated remake, too. I'm talking about the Gothic series.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I will eventually
@yxolloxy3273
@yxolloxy3273 Жыл бұрын
eh; I wouldn't put bg1 in an easy list; the dnd system it's based on is notoriously hard to get to grips with.
@vladimirtchuiev2218
@vladimirtchuiev2218 Жыл бұрын
If you abuse Mutamin's Garden 90% of the game becomes almost trivial, at least until you get to Baldur's Gate city and try Durlag's Tower.
@mikeg5039
@mikeg5039 Жыл бұрын
Im with ya, the bg games are the hardest i own. Dark souls aint nothin when your dice rolls are shit lol
@wahahabuh
@wahahabuh Жыл бұрын
I would actually agree with him, BG1 was incredibly hard my first 5 times or so trying it. I didn't know much about dnd and my low level mage protagonist was getting one shot by just about everything, gibberlings and wolves in the first map, gibberlings and ogre in the 2nd map, first assassin, every single thing between FAI and nashkel, 2nd assassin etc. But as I get older and now I know dnd rules, most things don't scare me or provide much of a threat to me. There are still some boss fights that are challenging but overall it's a much easier game once the knowledge gap is gone and that's without cheesing. With cheese strategies it becomes even easier
@Nattybumco
@Nattybumco Жыл бұрын
@@mikeg5039 that's not difficulty though
@Immor7alBG
@Immor7alBG Жыл бұрын
I'd say the lack of modern default features you'd find in a crpg would be more of a hindrance for newer players. I imagine someone who is used to AoE spells having an indicator showing exactly where the AoE will hit might have some trouble aiming fireballs in BG1. But in some aspects the AI is very weak and exploitable as well. I remember always cheesing the Ettun you can find in one of the first maps by running around in a circle with the bhaalspawn while shooting it with Imoen. You can even trap Drizzt and kill him, thats how silly the AI is.
@OffShotGaming
@OffShotGaming Жыл бұрын
I know I'm a noob with these kinda games. Divinity original 1 and 2 kicked my butt. i've probably got a lot to learn
@shanytopper2422
@shanytopper2422 Жыл бұрын
You should have a list of games that are short yet fun. For the player who doesn't have a lot of free time but still want to 100% a game while having fun.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure I made one, take a look at the list video playlist
@benwalbrecht8889
@benwalbrecht8889 Жыл бұрын
You should try baldurs gate with scs mod. It makes it wayyy harder, but also more interesting
@livefortheone7992
@livefortheone7992 Жыл бұрын
I've played a bit of most of these but haven't committed to finishing them yet. POE 2 is still in my steam wishlist tho
@cartergreen2309
@cartergreen2309 Жыл бұрын
Ah man you need to pick it up. In my opinion it's the most fun crpg. WotR has gotten close to it but it's still tops in my opinion (tb, I don't do rtwp). It's just as brilliant as wrath without that garbage crusade mini game and you get your abilities every fight and just constantly let's you do what you built to do. (Definitely pump the difficulty some though)
@daemonbyte6818
@daemonbyte6818 Жыл бұрын
your intro music is amazing,
@Joshcoshbagosh
@Joshcoshbagosh Жыл бұрын
this video must be for people who are extremely well acquainted with cRPGs because DoS2 fucked me up far more than I care to admit.
@denizinyeri
@denizinyeri Жыл бұрын
Baldur's Gate is so easy you can solo the entire game with most classes. On the other hand in BG2 you need certain abilities like Wish-resting and some immunities, otherwise you will have a hard time.
@darkholyPL
@darkholyPL Жыл бұрын
I would make the claim that once you learn the system, pretty much any cRPG is easy. And I mean really learn and understand it. Then you'll know all the exploits, all the 'op' spells, skills and so on and the game becomes a cake walk.
@ryandavid1277
@ryandavid1277 Жыл бұрын
I found that the combo of the Druids entangle, lightning stun and then meteor shower from a wizard made life very easy in Pillars of eternity 2 deadfire. The only thing I've come across thar broken in a game is the Shotgun class in Gears tactics equipped with the best grenade perks
@sarthakmishra1415
@sarthakmishra1415 Жыл бұрын
Please make a list of beginner friendly crpgs
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
I have, just search beginner on the channel's video page
@SpecShadow
@SpecShadow Жыл бұрын
For me it would be Fallout1 - overall difficulty combined with short (for RPGs standards, at least) playthrough and not being overwhelmed by the content. Interface might be clunky but you don't need manual for it which was a thing in RPGs back then. Personal pick - Wizards&Warriors. Until you encounter Amazoni Mantrap or need to grind shells to buy equipement for underwater level. Overall a team with 2 casters and 3 warriors is pure overkill. And you can grind by boosting spawn ratio in the Options.
@blanchiplanchi
@blanchiplanchi Жыл бұрын
SOLASTA? I am playing it right now, long battles at lvl 10 but you learn the advantages and how re-rolling works and gets pretty OK (core rules)
@AtreyusNinja
@AtreyusNinja Жыл бұрын
nowadays i still can't tell which is my favorite if DOS2 or POE2, is insane, i have 1k hours on both... i would love to say POE2 but still... i still wanna play more of DOS2
@cartergreen2309
@cartergreen2309 Жыл бұрын
Totally understand. For me it's POE2 because I hate Divinity's armor and magic system but if that was changed it would be the best game of all time
@ryandavid1277
@ryandavid1277 Жыл бұрын
Love them both!
@AtreyusNinja
@AtreyusNinja Жыл бұрын
​@@cartergreen2309 i'm sorry do u mean the "armor and the magic armor system" or the armor system and something about the magic system of dos2? BTW if so! (cuz i think the same about that) there is an interesting mod that change that system: "Divinity Unleashed" make the armor value in term of defence, like, magic and psysichal defence, so armor won't save from CC anymore (like DOS1
@cartergreen2309
@cartergreen2309 Жыл бұрын
@@AtreyusNinja I can see why that would be confusing what I said lol I mean the armor system and the magic system. I don't like the source points and how few you have and how you get them back. And then you understood what I don't like about the armor system. I might have to check those mods. Like I said dos2 would probably be the best game of all time imo if those things were changed
@AtreyusNinja
@AtreyusNinja Жыл бұрын
@@cartergreen2309 yes i can totally understand that, and i think the same about both armor and the special points
@lagbait3076
@lagbait3076 Жыл бұрын
Me listening to the first part: So I shouldn't take a dip into scaled fist?
@ravenfeeder1892
@ravenfeeder1892 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing cRPG's since before BG1 came out. I'm not sure I've found any of them easy without taking it down to the very lowest difficulty level.
@Pedone_Rosso
@Pedone_Rosso Жыл бұрын
As far as easy (and fun) cRPGs to mention, the two South Park titles would make my list. Maybe you didn't include them because the others in the list are more "serious" titles. Maybe it's because of the nature of the turn based combat in them, as they show kind of chess-board-like battle field in their turn based system (i.e. organized in rows and columns), rather than a free-movement kind of grid. I don't think I'll ever be fully aware of all the distinct sub-genres, with the several available classical and action Role Playing Games' nomenclature branches... Thanks for your videos!
@roybatty9935
@roybatty9935 Жыл бұрын
I'd kinda say they're more akin to jrpgs tbh. I feel you tho. They are fun and easy
@Abstrack88
@Abstrack88 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate Challenge PoE II. Have fun.😂
@civoreb
@civoreb Жыл бұрын
Im curious on what you think of Sword Coast Legends
@jeanfioravantegoncalves4898
@jeanfioravantegoncalves4898 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mortismal, have you ever played IceWind Dale series? It is a good CRPG game, i think that you would like it.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
I've reviewed the first one, havent gotten to the second yet
@jeanfioravantegoncalves4898
@jeanfioravantegoncalves4898 Жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming the Second, for me, is way better than the first, only because he uses the 2.5 DnD system instead of ADnD.
@grey_wulf
@grey_wulf Жыл бұрын
Played all of these games except for PoE2. Loved them all.
@Poltionorch
@Poltionorch Жыл бұрын
I love AD&D because it was my first experience with TTRPG's and CRPG's, but yeah, it's so clunky and outdated, it really hurts trying to defend how much fun I had playing it :')
@garchomowner
@garchomowner Жыл бұрын
deadfire and its DLC is like that dog and werewolf monster meme. the base game is the smiling dumb looking golden retriever the DLCs are are the wolf monsters thing. at the very least it is so because i am using deadly deadfire mod which increase the stats and level scaling of enemies even more.
@doctorlolchicken7478
@doctorlolchicken7478 Жыл бұрын
Baldurs Gate 1 - if you have 2 or more decent archers with magical arrows it is super easy. I don’t even use bows on fighter characters because it trivializes every encounter.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
My LoB party was like 4 Archers lol
@mp7311
@mp7311 Жыл бұрын
Knowing the mechanics is hard to incorporate into what is and isn't difficult because when you learn to abuse the mechanics, ALL games are easy. Kingmaker/Wrath were insanely easy even on unfair when you abuse OP spells and run a 6 man party full of Smilodons. How complicated or complex a games mechanics are is a part of how difficult a game is. If I have to go read a wiki on how to play Pathfinder games, then its pretty damn difficult. PoE2 mechanics were easy to understand so I would say that it was definitely easier. Despite that, like I said earlier, once you learn the intricacies of the mechanics, then it all becomes just as easy as eachother. What should be the biggest consideration for difficulty is accessibility. What games are easier/harder to learn. That's really the only thing that matters at the end of the day.
@PaganP1lgr1m
@PaganP1lgr1m Жыл бұрын
Would you say this applies to Wasteland 2 as well as 3, as I haven't yet played it?
@aleszol
@aleszol Жыл бұрын
Which exploits do you mean for Wasteland 3? I'm planning a second run to cover the dlcs, and I thought the game wasn't that easy.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Max charisma immediately and take the bookworm background and you can get like 50% extra exp from the start of the game
@aleszol
@aleszol Жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming thanks man! Will do
@stevea3626
@stevea3626 Жыл бұрын
Nice list of games but learning and mastering the systems of a game is the difficulty. Once you do that just about all games are easy,
@geekynerd7346
@geekynerd7346 Жыл бұрын
I have two added suggestions and some comments. Elder scrolls 4: oblivion is easy if you focus on Conjuration, Conjuration is incredibly overpowered in that game. Might and Magic 6 is easy once you know the order of exploration. Baldur’s Gate 1 is not easy! In my first two playthroughs I could not win because I did not have the right skills and abilities
@RonnieMyers777
@RonnieMyers777 Жыл бұрын
I love Wasteland 3 & DOS2 😁
@AlacrityTW
@AlacrityTW Жыл бұрын
I would put DAO on here. Unless you are impossing some self-restricting challenge on yourself, even nightmare difficulty is fair strsight forward.
@phantomeyebrow
@phantomeyebrow Жыл бұрын
Basically 5 of my favourite RPGs! I'm going to have to have my credentials re-validated.
@wahahabuh
@wahahabuh Жыл бұрын
Just because something is easy doesn't make it bad
@phantomeyebrow
@phantomeyebrow Жыл бұрын
@@wahahabuh Oh, agreed. This list hasn't caused me to question my judgement or anything. I suppose some of these are easy enough once you get to grips with them. Great games though!
@TimeIsMine93
@TimeIsMine93 Жыл бұрын
I'll be the first to admit Pillars 2 is an easy game. I died a few times and had to reload but i immediately was able to reload and correct within 1 or two tries. Which is great for someone learning. The amount of critical thinking and research to deal with a new kind of encounter was minimal. I've died more in the first to acts of wotr than in pillars
@Suikojunkie
@Suikojunkie Жыл бұрын
Playing DoS2 on Tactican and i'm loving it. Btw i think you shoud check out Lost Eidolons (i have anything to do with the game i just love crpgs).
@SeregaOrgan
@SeregaOrgan Жыл бұрын
casual
@Hrafnskald
@Hrafnskald Жыл бұрын
With respect, I think the best word to describe these is Exploitable: they contain exploits that, if known and used, can break the difficulty. They aren't Easy, but they do have simple ways to bypass the challenge of gameplay. I would never called BG1 or DOS2 easy, because they have complex systems that are far more in depth than the Dragon Age, Mass Effect, or Diablo games, but they are simple to exploit.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
I hear you but I disagree, for instance in BG1 knowing that Elven Archers are the single best damage across the game isn't really an exploit, and neither is just spamming summons. DOS2 is more debatable as a lot of the 'exploits' were made, anticipated, and explicitly designed to be used.
@jesusredondo513
@jesusredondo513 Жыл бұрын
BG1' system IMHO is one of the simplest ones and It works perfect. Much easier than wasteland 3 or DoS:2 system wich I consider mucho more cluttered and hard top learn
@aliquidcow
@aliquidcow Жыл бұрын
I would definitely agree about D:OS2 and Baldur's Gate. These were the first two CRPG type games I played in fact. I was actually pretty surprised to see people describe D:OS2 as difficult. To be fair, I died quite a lot at the very beginning because it does start you off with very little defense, but once you get into it then it becomes very easy, to the point that I was actually finding combat a little tedious in the last third or so as I could just use the same few tricks in most fights. Baldur's Gate I honestly just muddled through for the most part. Although I read up on the system (I remember the era when you had to actually read an instruction manual to play a game so I was used to this), the game doesn't give you much feedback, or at least not in a very helpful way, so a lot of the time I was just trying stuff and seeing if it worked, and I made it through the game that way.
@SeregaOrgan
@SeregaOrgan Жыл бұрын
wow, you so cool. Now try to change game mode from easy to honor 🤓
@diegocalzolaio8179
@diegocalzolaio8179 Жыл бұрын
BG1 was so easy that I could finish it even with a Bard... BG2 required a lot of planning with spells and equipment to face enemies like Kangaxx
@viamdolor9226
@viamdolor9226 Жыл бұрын
BG1 - it's much easier when playing the EE because of the changes from BG2, vanilla BG1 isn't easy.
@vladimirtchuiev2218
@vladimirtchuiev2218 Жыл бұрын
Can you abuse Mutamin's Garden in the vanilla one? If you abuse it on the EE 90% of the game becomes a cakewalk. Only Sarevok is pretty hard.
@xGarrettThiefx
@xGarrettThiefx Жыл бұрын
I agree, BG1 vanilla is a tactical challenge esp when you start getting into Durlag's Tower territory etc. Just forget the EE versions.
@chrismiller3484
@chrismiller3484 Жыл бұрын
Great List!
@joel5956
@joel5956 Жыл бұрын
I had an easier time with DOS I than DOS II. I just happened to stumble onto how insanely good summons are in the first one. All you spend to cast a summon is the action point cost that turn and the summon itself is almost as good as one of your party members. And you don't really have to commit much to changing a character's build to let them summon.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Summoning is very overpowered in both games
@joel5956
@joel5956 Жыл бұрын
@@MortismalGaming I felt like I at least had to spend a lot of resources levelling to get the really good summons in DOS II. Like the gremlin-thing you get in early DOS II dies pretty quickly (the champion form later on slaps though). In DOS I, that spider summon you can get in character creation can carry you for a while.
@DGneoseeker1
@DGneoseeker1 Жыл бұрын
I have to say all the Shadowrun games seem to be super easy. I never really felt challenged. There is frustration but it comes from things such as being locked out of buying the monowhip until you almost completed the game.
@abovewater6918
@abovewater6918 Жыл бұрын
Summoning aside. I think if you just pick regular classes and builds in Baldur's Gate 1 it's not super easy, because you can wander into a forest and get jumped by ogres in very early level, and you have very small chance of living or surviving. But yeah the game also isn't hard, thanks for the video
@erics8192
@erics8192 Жыл бұрын
Once you learn the system it's easy to exploit most RPGs. Case in point, elder scrolls morrowind, oblivion, skyrim. Dragon Age: Origins is relatively easy, especially late game.
@sfisabbt
@sfisabbt Жыл бұрын
For me, the hardest part of many CRPGs is to stick around long enough to start caring about the story. The pace of narration is very often so slow and not all games have interesting mechanics to distract you meanwhile.
@Zinczion
@Zinczion Жыл бұрын
Solasta is also fairly easy.
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
It was on my initial list before I narrowed
@cbear3476
@cbear3476 Жыл бұрын
DO2 is easy tell your the glass canon of the co op run and you get to the end XD
@Darkfire9189
@Darkfire9189 Жыл бұрын
BGII was pretty easy. At least for me. A few hard fghts but, I found it pretty easy as someone new to that sort of game.
@syro2412
@syro2412 Жыл бұрын
Divinity being easy is an overstatement. This game can be hard
@Azuris190
@Azuris190 Жыл бұрын
Played Baldurs Gate 1 on the Console, since it has Difficulty Settings, i just did set it down when i wasn't in the Mood to figure a Boss out. Edit: Or when it felt that it is wasting my Time.
@Th3ba1r0n
@Th3ba1r0n Жыл бұрын
You 100% games? :D Do you have a POE2 game play complete?
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Review, yes. Let's Play, no. Also made a bunch of other videos on the lore and story
@rpgmusik2172
@rpgmusik2172 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed a pretty big one. Unlike its predecessor, which could have some genuinely hard fights, Knights of the Old Republic 2 is an incredibly easy game.
@sumdude5172
@sumdude5172 Жыл бұрын
now im interested in the hardest crpg
@therdku
@therdku Жыл бұрын
What about KOTOR? Or that doesn't count as a CRPG? :P
@hplovecraftmacncheese
@hplovecraftmacncheese Жыл бұрын
So, if Divinity 2 is easy, which games would you consider hard?
@derekofbaltimore
@derekofbaltimore Жыл бұрын
First thing i thought of when he said divinity original sin 2 is easy is the mission where you are supposed to save the guy on the wooden tower and within five minutes EVERY THING is in flames!
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
You can start that fight by teleporting him into a trap away from the fight and cause the flames to never even show up
@MR67UToob
@MR67UToob Жыл бұрын
Disagree with BG and DOS2 being on this list. DOS2 can be very difficult if you're underleveled for the fights. BG uses the AD&D rules (albeit slightly modified) which can be unforgiving at times and saving throws are often difficult to pass. I would replace these two with Kingdoms of Amalur and possibly Dragon Age 2 (which is a joke on normal difficulty).
@Insertein
@Insertein Жыл бұрын
I want to play DOS2 someday
@MegaRossik
@MegaRossik Жыл бұрын
Baldurs gate 1 might be a joke, but until the final battle. It was hard.
@sedraczek
@sedraczek Жыл бұрын
P:WoTR doesn't have similar AI system like in PoE? In Kingmaker AI are amebas and it was anoing to micro all the time
@MortismalGaming
@MortismalGaming Жыл бұрын
Nope, you can set them to auto use one thing
@Mynxfitz
@Mynxfitz Жыл бұрын
I felt personally attacked with Divinity hahaha but tbh it was my first crpg
@FMGInferno
@FMGInferno Жыл бұрын
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