Fix Your Outback's Wild Ride!

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@TheSometimesBuilds 4 жыл бұрын

Jumping on the rear bumper would make an EXCELLENT looped GIF. haha!

@gregdolecki8530 2 ай бұрын

Reminds me of the scene in the movie The Great Outdoors when the bear breaks down the door and is jumping on top of John Candy.

@bradpool127 3 жыл бұрын

Stellar job Mr Subaru. The amount of time and effort that goes into these hundreds of videos you've done that help all of us amateurs out is so appreciated. Absolutely invaluable!

@miken8150 4 жыл бұрын

I just did this job on my '07 Outback a couple months ago! Used the exact same KYB shocks, made a huge improvement. Instead of using the factory jack inside the suspension I used a floor jack on the ground and forced the shock upwards until it aligned with the hole. Worked pretty well and seemed more straightforward. Also, the first shock you removed had a KYB sticker on it, I suspect that one was NOT original to the car - that was a replacement. The other leaking strut, without a sticker, was most likely original. Somebody replaced one strut but not the other.

@cobra454tim 4 жыл бұрын

That's amazing how all that load is handled by that one bolt ! I guess at least it has a side load bolted to the lower arm!

@jameso2720 2 жыл бұрын

I have found OEM Subaru struts from the dealer same cost as most major auto parts stores. Great job Mr Subaru.👍

@deadpossum100 2 жыл бұрын

Just needed the proper placement of them fancy ass boots, no vice needed! Great video thanks!

@Vtindyfan 4 жыл бұрын

Great Video! I had my mechanic - "Tim's Auto " up here in Vermont do this job for Me after I broke a strut. Now I can see what all was involved in fixing it!...

@anthonycruz3568 4 жыл бұрын

you are awesome my man

@jesusfuentes493 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. And tips. Appreciate.

@Dustin_the_wind 11 ай бұрын

Bump for respect and gratitude. Watched your other video to do mine, one side done. Getting my butt kicked on the front 2004 knuckle; stuck ball joint, broke in pinch bolt, siezed spindle.

@hellzbellz1234 4 жыл бұрын

i remember installing coil overs that used the factory spring and using ratchet straps to tighten them up

@bennyadrianmartinez 8 күн бұрын

Thanks for being thorough. Definitely gonna double check your torque specs before I do mine tho, just to be safe.

@occamsrazor1285 3 жыл бұрын

24:08 I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW!! I never even thought of using a crows foot for that!!!

@item6931 4 жыл бұрын

I got some Munroe struts and King springs for my 02 Forester. The springs are so thick it made the originals look like toys. I fatally bent the spring compressor getting the front ones in lol. Looks really good (raised 20 mm) and zero bounce, but man it's a hard ride lol

@pbcanal1 4 жыл бұрын

I had to change the brake pads on my 2004 forester. I had to use a saws - all to cut the head off one of the bolts to remove the brakes . And then it took heat and about an hour to get the stud out. I hate road salt

@nevek20 4 жыл бұрын

I have to say suspension changes are probably the ONLY fix on a car that scare me. Even with a big set of spring clamps, i'm just expecting to fire the spring through a wall at any second.

@TheMastercyric 10 ай бұрын

It is possible to order the struts assembly if you want. It come in one piece so you don't have to deal with the coil compression. Did it on my Matrix a while back, planning on doing it on the outback soon

@ayske1 4 жыл бұрын

Using kybs for my fronts on my liberty GT. Replaced overpriced Bilstein as they were shot. Happy days

@Ramenscooter 2 жыл бұрын

Wondering what your thoughts are on the King Springs progressive coils? Thanks, love your craft!

@lonwillis783 4 жыл бұрын

NO way your actually wearing Snap-on Socks LOL I love it ! Thanks Mr Subaru!

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Only socks I wear. They're amazing. 😍

@VWLivin Жыл бұрын

Another great vid! So, I have a question regarding suspension in general. I own a 2014 outback 2.5i limited and on the highway it rides great, super smooth and complient. However, at slower speeds, and especially on irregular surfaces it really sucks. It's super harsh on even slightly cracked pavement, etc. It has brand new front control arms, struts, etc, but the rear is all original I think but the rear struts are not leaking anything. I've jumpled on the bumper and they rebound just fine. I was thinking that a good place to start would be the front and rear swaybar bushings along with all of the stabilizer bar end links??? Would replacing these things help with a harsh ride? Is there someplace else I should look at first? I would really appreciate anyone's feedback. Thank you.

@lowlifeangler 4 жыл бұрын

My 2018 Outback is fine. Just they put cheap tires and brake pads right out of the factory. After it rides great. I park it during the week. I drive my 2007 Malibu during the week

@NTL1991 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! What's your opinion on using something like Monroe's Quick-Strut or Gabriel's ReadyMount vs replacing just the shock? All new spring, shock, upper mount and insulators would be a good thing, right?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

As long as it's a reputable brand, you should be fine. Avoid the cheap Chinese quick struts on Amazon and eBay.

@MrPhotoflori Жыл бұрын

Thanks again for your videos. When would you recommend replacing the springs? I am getting the loaded versions, as just dislike dealing with springs. But considering to save old springs, @180k? Is it worth doing?

@fastfurious9489 Жыл бұрын

Factory uses KYB or Nokico which over the last 50 years I have found too many that leak or do not last that long. My own observation, I replace them with Bilstein B6 not B4, heavy duty, on all my vehicles, same price, last vehicle was a jeep grand cherokee going on 200k miles, when I sold it they were like new, no leaks no loss of ability. FYI...

@kheff46 4 жыл бұрын

I watched a friend almost lose a couple fingers when a spring compressor broke and the shock came uncaged. Gruesome!

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Definitely gotta be careful with those things.

@item6931 4 жыл бұрын

I always get nervous using those spring compressors. The amount of energy they store....

@VenturiLife 4 жыл бұрын

@@item6931 Potential kinetic energy has killed loads of people...

@dixieannhamilton6663 2 жыл бұрын

hello do you know if there are shock assembly or other parts used for American Legacy that fits legacy's made for the eu market?

@robertf4572 4 жыл бұрын

Once the new spring is correctly mounted on the strut, is there any orientation when reinstalling in the car? I noticed the springs have painted dots on them. Does it matter if those are facing the tire or if 180 degrees opposite?

@occamsrazor1285 3 жыл бұрын

23:30 Slight note for viewers; Mr Subaru knows what he's doing, which means he knows how much torque his impact gun puts out, so he uses it to save time. We should not do this. You'll notice that when he goes to use the torque wrench to torque that nut down to 160nm, it beeps immediately. That means the nut is already torqued beyond that spec. There is a ± range for the torque value, which Mr Subaru has enough experience to know he's within, but we almost certainly cannot gauge that. Which means doing the same thing Mr Subaru has done here will probably lead to over torquing the nut and bolt and can cause significant issues like the bolt having yielded.

@fordfactor 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2002 outback that needs new rear struts, but they are the self-levelling sort. Are they still available?

@andrewscott8892 Жыл бұрын

Would the Mac precision torque wrench provide enough clearance to get the top bolt?

@AaronMal1978 4 жыл бұрын

Put a bump cap on. Lots of sharp stuff under there!

@bigunitandmore 4 жыл бұрын

Use a air impact after you have the tension off of the spring. to get the nut off.

@dvgayle1 3 жыл бұрын

QUESTION: I have a 2015 Forester w/57k with brand new Geolander tires and the ride quality is awful. I took it to the dealer and they said the struts were ok but the front control arm bushings were worn. They replaced the front arms and it did ride better but now 6 months later it seems like the ride quality has gotten worse. The struts seems like the only possibility. How long should the struts last? Yes, it gets off road use but I drive it carefully on the road. The vehicle takes dips well and is not "bouncy", but I feel every little bump in the road.

@jackkant2697 4 ай бұрын

Do you know of any heavy -duty springs being available? I have a wheelchair carrier that really makes my 2013 squat.

@ds29912 2 жыл бұрын

I gotta say I felt a lot of tension when you compressed those springs.

@dmcain703 Жыл бұрын

I know there are a variety of factors, but did the strut bolt come off fairly easy? Did you have to PB blast that in advance?

@blahtodd6549 8 ай бұрын

do you need to check the alignment after you replace the struts?

@bradpool127 3 жыл бұрын

Wondering if anyone has a Subaru 10/1998 - 2003 Outback with SLEV(Self Levelling Suspension) in the rear end and have you replaced it with non-self levelling suspension? The SLEV shocks aren't easy to come by and cost a bomb to replace and I was wondering if anyone had any issues or success with this? Both rear shocks are P/N 20365AE020 Gas Filled and I think they have a specially shaped top rubber bush as well. I'm assuming if you went with the non-SLEV shocks, you would have to have a different top bush and bush mount. And how does that effect the ride level or towing ability? Any information from anyone who has tackled this issue would be great. Cheers!

@justaddafan 4 жыл бұрын

I'm extremely impressed with how easy the lower shock bolts came off on the car in the video. Mine wouldn't release with a 3 foot breaker bar, a high torque impact gun or intense heat and they were absolutely rust free. I had to cut the heads half way through with an angle grinder to release the tension on the nuts so they would back off. So I'd advise watchers of the video to be prepared for that job to take alot longer than it did on this car. Second question for @MrSubaru1387. If I were wanting to replace the shocks on my Outback with Legacy shocks to improve the car's handling but not totally loose the car's higher ride, which rear shocks would you recommend? '04 from a wagon for the higher damping rate, or '05 wagon or sedan?

@577buttfan Жыл бұрын

Video editing is a wonderful thing.

@allanbsantos 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I have an Outback 2007 3.0 H6 model. I searched your videos but didn't find a solution. my car is shaking on the way out or at low speed. I feel like it's in the rear of the car. Can you help me diagnose this issue? I think it would be something in the differential or not, mybe axis

@pdbnc 4 жыл бұрын

"Now these coil spring compressors are real dangerous, use caution!" [uses an impact and hammer on them]

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

I see the comedy of the hammering was enjoyed! 😂 Do as I say, not as I do. Lol

@inerlogic 4 жыл бұрын

This bolt is under tension, so support the bottom of the strut with a jack stand before driving this out..... Drives it out without a jack stand :)

@bierbrauer11 4 жыл бұрын

I did all four corners on my forester recently. First time doing it so paranoid AF, did hand tools only and found my 1/2” ratchet did pretty well.

@shadowzedge5793 4 жыл бұрын

@@inerlogic with the Jack stand underneath the bolt might have even come out a little easier as well. 🤣

@Dustin_the_wind 11 ай бұрын

Are the rear shocks universal or side dependant, does it matter which one you put on if you bought a set?

@salsarriba5695 4 жыл бұрын

wouldn't you tighten the shocks once the car is sitting on the wheels? otherwise it is a great channel , helped me a lot many times.

@kartboarder22g17 4 жыл бұрын

Crowfoot to be at a right angle to the torque wrench to get the right torque or closer too it.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

I'm fully aware.

@jeffreygoss8109 4 жыл бұрын

Did you get a shop? Nice to see you out of the heat.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, it's plenty hot in there too. 😂

@mal798 3 жыл бұрын

Ah the shocks. One of the most overlooked service items on cars. Any thoughts on replacing the strut tops/bearings while they're out?

@benriggs1851 Жыл бұрын

Always.

@georgekonrad911 4 жыл бұрын

I did this job but had to try and put the spring compressors on with struts still installed because the shock shafts snapped and the weight of the car was the only thing keeping everything from blowing apart. It was very nerve wracking.

@bobtheelectrician6692 4 жыл бұрын

Wondered why you don't just put the spring compressors on before removing the whole assembly to relieve tension on the bottom mounting bolt. Clearance issues?

@georgekonrad911 4 жыл бұрын

You cant get them in opposite each other, the whole spring bends at a wierd angle. Its very sketchy

@stevemontano1361 3 жыл бұрын

Can I install legacy struts on my 06 outback? Want it to be a it lower.

@gotenianiki Ай бұрын

I have the same squicing on the back end, it is driving me nuts, cause I don't know where it is from.

@alihakimpour1015 4 жыл бұрын

Hi how are you, love your channel and i also fixed my 2015 foresters heat shield noise for the cat with one of your videos. I just had one question where can i get one of those nice torque wrenches that you were using in this video i know their pretty pricy but where can i get one. keep up the good work.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

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@VenturiLife 4 жыл бұрын

I'm a little surprised that the shock nut isn't wired on or a split-pin.

@anderschristianson1161 4 жыл бұрын

What attachments did you use on your torque wrench at 24:12 ? They seem to be very useful!

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Just a crow's foot on an extension.

@GunFunZS 4 жыл бұрын

That annoying guy who yells , "ow!" On the O'Reilly's ad, Is reason enough to shop at Rock Auto.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

???

@GunFunZS 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 KZfaq has been playing a very irritating ad for a car parts chain store on every car related video for a while. Often several times a video. Other viewers will understand.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

@@GunFunZS ah. Gotcha. Don't believe I've seen that particular O'Reilly's ad.

@GunFunZS 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 it's a sort of shout like you would expect a guy to say at a pep rally to call attention to himself.

@Houdini.C 4 жыл бұрын

What is your personal opinion on spacer kits for a more aggressive stance and do you have a brand preference?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

As in the lift kit? Have no first hand experience with any of them, so can't say.

@charger19691 4 жыл бұрын

Are there any good quick strut assemblies worth buying or are they all crap? Thanks for the video!!

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Every set I've had hands on have been cheap junk.

@johnathansmith3819 4 жыл бұрын

I remember the good old times, when I used to replace the top seal, and re fill it with Glycerin, for a "sport" ride... Shouldn't you have to torque up the shock nut BEFORE you placed the spring in position? You are fighting the torsion force with the torque wrench...

@brianskinner4328 4 жыл бұрын

Are there quick strut assemblies so you're not playing with widow makers. Also to save time for the flat rate techs?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

There are, but haven't found a decent set yet. Most are cheap junk.

@brianskinner4328 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know

@FANGSTALKERNINJAMASTER99 4 жыл бұрын

Why not buy new shocks with new springs and rubber ends on them? Way safer. Plug and play easy install.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Because most assembled struts are cheap, junk.

@FANGSTALKERNINJAMASTER99 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 I bought Monroe assembled struts for my 08 forester and they are anything but cheap, junk. I love them.

@GunFunZS 4 жыл бұрын

I did this job on my 04 legacy sedan recently. I didn't know that I should bleed the struts. Is there any harm possible, or just decreased performance while it gradually self bleeds?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

No.

@brianskinner4328 4 жыл бұрын

Also forgot to ask, have you ever had struts due the opposite scenario of seizing solid instead of bouncing?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

I have seen that once, due to rust and the car sitting for a long time.

@kylerathburn1738 11 ай бұрын

What's a good inexpensive scan tool for my 2020 out back I can get ?

@MrSubaru1387 11 ай бұрын

Topdon Artidiag 900 BT is solid. amzn.to/3rYhymZ

@dave44052 Жыл бұрын

08 outback with 200k , would you buy complete struts or reuse springs and top bearings. If complete what brand would use. Thanks

@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын

KYB full replace at that age/mileage.

@dave44052 Жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 going to have to do head gaskets trying to figure out what motor gasket kit and which head gaskets to use. At this mileage might have to do valves and guides or at least seals. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

@benhuot6852 Жыл бұрын

Hi, you say stuff like supporting the shock (to much pressure and it shows in you video) from under and you don't do it??? Again, remove the upper 2 bolts first if you shocks is supported from under??? Not A big thing but the way you proceeded is the inverse of what your saying.

@adamwolfram6126 4 жыл бұрын

I'm about to replace the struts on my 2003 VDC with 120,000 miles on it, and no rust. The springs are not broken, but do they fatigue? It'll cost about an extra $250 to replace the springs. I'm ordering Subaru struts. Does replacing the springs make sense, or is it just a waste of money? Thanks for the videos!

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

They do sag with age, but I probably would replace them until 200-250k plus.

@adamwolfram6126 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the input. I appreciate it. I'll keep the springs. Are KYB true OEM spec/same part?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

@@adamwolfram6126 KYB is the OE provider for Subaru's struts/shocks.

@adamwolfram6126 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info and replies!

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

@@adamwolfram6126 you're quite welcome. 👍🏻

@joeladkins7083 4 жыл бұрын

MrSubaru, what impact wrench are you using for this job?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Milwaukee M18 1/2" High Torque - amzn.to/2A2qWI4 Milwaukee M18 3/8" Mid Torque - amzn.to/34vQJpY Milwaukee M12 3/8" Stubby - amzn.to/2ZKsVQx

@joeladkins7083 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much. I just got the non fuel Milwaukee 3/8 ratchet for working on my ‘01 Forester. I will add one of these to my collection.

@SilverHunterIsHunted 4 жыл бұрын

@@joeladkins7083 the M12 3/8" is my favorite tool. Very versatile and saves a ton of time. Glad I find a deal and bought it

@joeladkins7083 4 жыл бұрын

Eastphilly, thanks. That’s the one I’m leaning towards. I already have the m12 batteries so for the time being it seems the best.

@derrickray1123 4 жыл бұрын

Just a bit of a blown strut issue, allow me to demonstrate!

@malandvulamachawe6323 4 жыл бұрын

Which shocks are good, Bilstein or KYB?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

KYB is the original equipment.

@malandvulamachawe6323 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 Thanks bro.

@liketolearn141 2 жыл бұрын

Im dieing rn .. they don't call these things widowmaker for nothing.... As he bangs on it with a hammer

@Set_your_handle77 4 жыл бұрын

23:20 Would it be okay to add anti seize?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

If you'd like.

@matthewprosco5940 4 жыл бұрын

Last i checked Subaru doesnt use kyb for original equipment. Lol

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Well, you better check again. They do and have been for years.

@EDDIEGARAGE 2 жыл бұрын

Do the Americans have WD40?

@Eskandarany246 4 жыл бұрын

I liked the video, I gave you thump up, and I'm sure your next video will be better taking the comment below in your consideration regarding your safety,

@cruzanbum3108 4 жыл бұрын

I’m a decent shade tree mechanic but sus stuff just gives me the heeby-jeebies. I need to find someone willing to help me out.

@ToddClemmer 4 жыл бұрын

Are those snap-on socks?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

That they are. The most comfortable socks ever. They're all I wear. Have about 14 pair of them. lol

@jeffreygoss8109 4 жыл бұрын

Does the snap on truck launder them for you? Lol

@jomangeee9180 4 жыл бұрын

I thought I joined!!! Did my membership not go through??? OK it says inactive membership for some reason, whats going on?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Deactivated/refunded. Apparently people took issue with it.

@jomangeee9180 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 I don't understand. You really help me out a lot and I would like to show my appreciation!! Seriously you have saved me hundreds , whats the big deal. So I can't ask you questions any more... This is just twisted sick

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad that I've helped you and many others. No, not at all. Things will continue as normal. As they always have. Apparently some people thought it either wrong of me or greedy of me to turn on the new membership feature, so I turned it back off. I'm going to edit it to see if it will be more accepted by people.

@wim0104 4 жыл бұрын

well, sometimes you need to get rid of the cheap "customers" that demand you give away quality work/info.

@dustin9035 4 жыл бұрын

Photoshop him out and two ( ; ) in the back. Now that's a funny video

@ikariku 4 жыл бұрын

Using Milwaukee stuff?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Yup. Upgraded. 👍🏻

@robertf4572 4 жыл бұрын

Was that car a 2009?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@cody0 4 жыл бұрын

There's no rust on that subaru! Bs! Try doing that job with the car that's lived in New England for 2 years and its instantly ten times worse

@wg5768 4 жыл бұрын

I live in Maine and own a 2008 Outback with 183,000 miles on it. It is garaged every day and driven every winter. No rust problems!

@jayxpoke 4 жыл бұрын

Totally irrelevant, what coolant is required for 2011 forester XT?

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Subaru Super coolant. The blue stuff.

@jayxpoke 4 жыл бұрын

@@MrSubaru1387 i just purchased this subaru and it has green coolant, its sitting a lil low on the reservoir can i mix it with the blue?

@jayxpoke 4 жыл бұрын

@UCgBbrfuYo_uSwE3hI_OUagw really? I just bought PEAK 50/50 its blue today they told me the current one i had was universal coolant that i could mix it and i did so. Can i damage my car?

@jonk6137 4 жыл бұрын

Robert I know it’s hot af out but y u always wear shorts to work on cars.... I just hate it

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

Hot and humid. lol Only in the summer time. I wear Dickies work pants or Carhartts in the fall, winter, and early spring.

@MrSubaru1387 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNGFiKij3q6scas.html See, black Dickies and a Dickies jacket too! Haha

@jonk6137 4 жыл бұрын

MrSubaru1387 I’ll cut ya a lil slack bc u are much closer to the equator than I am here in Pgh

@lucifchristo 3 жыл бұрын

Strange thing that happened with my 05 aside from the stuck in FWD issue is that every time I hit a bounce my ass end will go all over the place so I replace the rear struts and improved ever-so-slightly only but why replace the front struts there are no longer bounces all over the place? I think my Subaru is possessed