Fixing Less than Good Framing!

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Vancouver Carpenter

Vancouver Carpenter

2 жыл бұрын

Problem solving at the LOAP and getting it ready for drywall!!!

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@Phazetic99
@Phazetic99 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago, when I first started in construction, I remember the words of an old plasterer. He said, "All these young guys think they are hot shit because they can spread mud, but they ain't a real CRAFTSMAN." That stuck with me, even though at the time I didn't really understand what he meant. This video reminded me of the difference between a real craftsman and a mere spreader. Knowing how to make the base of your wall correct is the foundation of making a real good job done. I imagine most other drywallers would just try to (and ultimately fail) make the wall with what they had to work with. "Fix it with mud" so the saying goes. Good video, thanks
@billverine765
@billverine765 5 ай бұрын
Ben I just came across your channel and have been catching up on some of these older videos. You are a master craftsmen and I really appreciate how to always try to do things right, even on this old beaten up house. My house was built in 1972, apparently by a gang of drunken monkeys and I have ran into my fair share of horribly out of square walls. I had to reskin an entire wall in my bathroom because the wall was out of plumb by more than half an inch from top to bottom when I replaced the shower. I cut many shims from 1/2 ply to square it. I have been picking up some great tips that I wish I had known 10 years ago. Keep fighting the good fight and godspeed my friend.
@williamnewman8850
@williamnewman8850 2 жыл бұрын
How are you so lucky to find these lovely jobs? Somebody out there likes you ! Great job. Love these renovations jobs of old houses that’s what makes for real carpenter s.
@jeffreylevin1266
@jeffreylevin1266 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe today but, when I was a kid in the 70’s, homeowners did things themselves. Remember, no internet, no TV show’s, maybe a book at the Library. People asked questions from friends, the Hardware Store guy and they gave it their best shot. If the Cabinets didn’t fall off the wall, they figured they did good 😂. Thank goodness today, I can watch you and then have at it. I’ll be renovating a kitchen for the first time shortly. Please keep the videos coming 👍.
@conradcoolerfiend
@conradcoolerfiend 2 жыл бұрын
with the cost of contractors today, this is having a resurgence!
@leebarnes655
@leebarnes655 2 жыл бұрын
Oy vey, got a cardboard box full of pueblo printed government how to pamphlets and back then we used the one on how to build a septic tank when we put in the indoor turlet as the hill house got real old real quick at the -10 F region not to mention the stinging wasp issues during the summer. Worked my little 13 year old butt off digging thru 14 feet of hard adobe and then we hit easy sand. I wanted to dig more to put a funnel bottom on it, but was voted down. In all it's wisdom, the pamphlet never mentioned that septic tanks need to be pumped out occasionally which is where my tapered bottom would have shown as a brilliant thing to do even if I had no reason to do it other than it would have been real easy in that sand. 30 years later, they have to be pumped out? came as a shock to all here, but it is indeed a part of life. So what else isn't in those best current knowledge you can get government pamphlets? The very idea that the USA government should have such a printing press built in the center of the country in pueblo colorado was to disseminate solid information to the masses at the cheapest mailing rates. And it was a po dunk town at the time which means cheap labor too. By the look of it I'm guessing the photos in it were from the 40s, I thought they shut it all down in the 60s, but it's still a thing with only a token smattering of what they used to offer for free. And it is still free to USA citizens. How to isn't a thing over there anymore. Money advice seems to be their focus today.
@dhollm
@dhollm 2 жыл бұрын
Living in a cold climate I really appreciate your attention to detail with insulation & especially vapor barrier. These are details which could be done badly or not at all and hidden away for the homeowner never to notice until years later there is a mold problem or even just higher heating costs than there should be!
@genekilpela
@genekilpela 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Ben! This is the content that I really like watching and learning from! I remodeled a 1920s house and you really don't know what you're going to get into until you dig in to it-plenty of suprized from construction to previous remodels. It's interesting to see how you would make things right and your thought process along the way!
@robyarrow9690
@robyarrow9690 2 жыл бұрын
And customers wonder why we as contractors charge a premium for taking over their half done renovations. This is a perfect example. Customer think you can just left some drywall on there but no we have to demo the wall rebuild the wall and move electrical. I feel your pain Ben.
@marjoriejudge5348
@marjoriejudge5348 2 жыл бұрын
or meticulous people like my engineer husband see half done work and have to correct it - we think that our house was the learning curve house for the post WWII development , it seems every stupid thing that could be done was done to this defenseless little house (took the electrician 3 days to un weave the mess of wiring from 1958 when we had the kitchen re done) - next project small half bath in basement in a 43 inches by 6ft space that "someone" thought was a sufficient space for a 3/4 bath (no!)
@afterlightdesigns
@afterlightdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
When you use the concreting Timbers for framing. Looks like it was done by a concreting contractor as well haha Well done on fixing it right up
@JM-io4vb
@JM-io4vb 2 жыл бұрын
nice to see i'm not the only person who uses the trial-and-error method for finding a stud.
@rosscobosco
@rosscobosco 2 жыл бұрын
Dude , big fan of your no nonsense vids, total pro! I am doing up an old house in France, no a plumb line or straight edge in the house nothing lol , wood worm , you name it ,carpenters nightmare? Or a great challenge? I like to think of the latter. Thanks for your drywall vids helped me a lot. Keep em coming
@metaljm25
@metaljm25 2 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculous that any contractor would consider this work acceptable. Good job fixing this mess.
@WayPastCrazy2525
@WayPastCrazy2525 2 жыл бұрын
I bought that same table saw back in May and I must say, It got me back on the DeWalt bandwagon. Clever everything about this portable saw. I love it.
@bboomer7th
@bboomer7th 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This saw is not heavy, it’s accurate and durable.
@danham3344
@danham3344 2 жыл бұрын
Love these vids! Keep ‘em coming. 😃👍🏼
@this1617
@this1617 2 жыл бұрын
This guy has some mad skills!
@carlosjimenez1988
@carlosjimenez1988 2 жыл бұрын
I feel for you. Both houses i lived in needed to repair the other guys shotty work. It's a pain but rewarding.
@markvasiloff2217
@markvasiloff2217 2 жыл бұрын
As “That ‘70s Reno” perhaps some Bee Jees music (instead of country; but I won’t lie - I like country). 😉 Great video!
@khmerohio
@khmerohio 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Ben 👍👍👍
@kennethlemke9826
@kennethlemke9826 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent work
@jamesmchugo9422
@jamesmchugo9422 2 жыл бұрын
What a mess. Nice job correcting and doing it right. 👍
@dinnerwithfranklin2451
@dinnerwithfranklin2451 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thank you very much.
@Lincoln_Hawk
@Lincoln_Hawk 2 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@davidkahler9390
@davidkahler9390 2 жыл бұрын
Nice change of pace from drywalling
@dhammer5645
@dhammer5645 2 жыл бұрын
Nice table saw stand Ben! Looks pretty new. Hahahaha!
@mutwalid4778
@mutwalid4778 2 жыл бұрын
I like your style of working
@treelimb2878
@treelimb2878 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting bud.
@electricalron
@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын
I like your channel and your jobs are usually like mine: shitty, with a lot of overdue and very much needed repairs.
@davidmattson5750
@davidmattson5750 2 жыл бұрын
Just fyi, length of your studs isn't super crucial when the wall is non load bearing. Don't want them super short, but if there's a little gap it's really not going to hurt anything. It's basically just a backer for sheet goods. Super good job on your reframe though.
@stich1960
@stich1960 2 жыл бұрын
I mean not great if you don't like cracks or screw pops though. Maybe you could covice me a credit card gap or floating top member is OK but otherwise thats how you get drywall issues that you can't fix properly.
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he say “hang cabinets”? (Shudder)
@davidmattson5750
@davidmattson5750 2 жыл бұрын
Ultimately was just talking about his little gap he left on his last stud. For a little clarity.
@stich1960
@stich1960 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmattson5750 ah yeah credit card gap is whatevs imo thought you where talking about the orginal framing
@Foz1
@Foz1 2 жыл бұрын
@@stich1960 I don't think the original gaps would be a problem, they're unsightly but you can see in the video how he can't pull the studs out.
@sleeknub
@sleeknub 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including some photos of that wall in lieu of video. What are those boxes for? Seem really big for a typical residential junction box.
@fastmover45
@fastmover45 2 жыл бұрын
Ben i am sure the 2 hammer chisel trick is not in the carpentry hand book for profesionals, but it did make me smile.
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
I do a lot of things that aren't in the manual.
@jimhendrix7776
@jimhendrix7776 2 жыл бұрын
At least you brought the 1970's hammer for the job lol bahaha!!!
@shanesheppard9613
@shanesheppard9613 2 жыл бұрын
Hitting hammer with hammer? You got pretty big balls Ben, stay safe man.
@ItchyKneeSon
@ItchyKneeSon 2 жыл бұрын
Right. I heard of a guy whose vision was *nearly* lost due to doing this without eye protection. Fortunately, he's still able to see... For those that don't know, hammer steel, when meeting other hammer steel with 'vigor' causes one of the heads to fail. This causes steel shards to go flying in various directions at high speed. They care not whether they're heading for a wall, a leather boot, or the supple tissue of your eyeball. They do so with fury!!!
@damitbobby6677
@damitbobby6677 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItchyKneeSon thanks I did not know. I always hit my drywall hatchet with another drywall hatchet
@ItchyKneeSon
@ItchyKneeSon 2 жыл бұрын
@@damitbobby6677 I didn't know either, until about a year ago. Maybe try a mallet instead? One of those flooring hammers might be about the same size. What do you use the two hammers to do?
@damitbobby6677
@damitbobby6677 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItchyKneeSon I use one hatchet to pound other hatchet into studs sometimes to pry the studs apart if needed
@ItchyKneeSon
@ItchyKneeSon 2 жыл бұрын
@@damitbobby6677 Gotcha. Maybe get one of those Stanley prybars/flatbars? They're like $10 at HD and you can also use it as a kicker when hanging walls. They're about a foot long, mostly black, and have yellow at one end. The steel won't fail like it hammer steel. They're designed to be wailed on. Do it for your eyes. :)
@fredfaresjrcarpentry
@fredfaresjrcarpentry 2 жыл бұрын
So the shim and piece of wood is to make the frame squared off? This is done when your walls are not squared off?
@steveknievel
@steveknievel 2 жыл бұрын
nice work ;)
@goodtobehandy
@goodtobehandy 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this was a training project for the newest apprentices. What could go wrong.
@rla1000
@rla1000 2 жыл бұрын
10:57 I admire your trust in that 2x4 to be straight. But nice remediation!
@AsHellBored
@AsHellBored 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just rip down the drywall and sister the studs for the new wall? Also, why no blocking for cabinets?
@Andygeofri
@Andygeofri 2 жыл бұрын
There must be a mistake.. I came here for drywall advice.. 🤣
@goali3903
@goali3903 2 жыл бұрын
When my 2x4s say a wall is flat, that’s when I know the wall is messed up
@mgjk
@mgjk 2 жыл бұрын
11:13... When I was in high school (it's been a while now), my electrical shop teacher told us the nails for boxes need to penetrate the 2x4s. Those tiny screws in the 2x2 would have failed me! I still don't know why. Pulling nails like that out of a wall are such a PITA that I prefer to use a hacksaw (or a bare hacksaw blade in tight spots)
@stevehairston9940
@stevehairston9940 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they don't make a face plate extension for plastic residential electrical boxes. They do for commercial boxes. It would make it a lot easier. Or maybe they do and I've just never seen or heard of them. 😁
@tay13666
@tay13666 2 жыл бұрын
They do. I've used them. Plastic extension rings to go on plastic boxes.
@gregnixon5770
@gregnixon5770 2 жыл бұрын
You should never hit a hammerhead against another hammerhead instead of a chisel because they are made of the same kind of steel and shrapnel can happen....I knew a guy who lost his eye that way and he was wearing glasses
@bastiandelcastillohuerta3549
@bastiandelcastillohuerta3549 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly ! That shit is really dangerous !
@bramvanhautte5112
@bramvanhautte5112 2 жыл бұрын
Did you screw the framing directly in the drywall or was there a beam (or an osb plate) after the drywall?
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
Studs behind
@safemasteryoh2717
@safemasteryoh2717 2 жыл бұрын
Hammer versus hammer big no no - lucky no shattering
@williammoore4101
@williammoore4101 2 жыл бұрын
some good safety-squinting going on there
@TapelessDrywallFinishing
@TapelessDrywallFinishing 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@milesharlan1
@milesharlan1 2 жыл бұрын
Looking good Ben!! How many pairs of Adidas Stan Smiths do you have? Do you have different pairs for skate boarding or ones for casually around the house? Keep up the good work!!
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
Just one.
@milesharlan1
@milesharlan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter Thank You..I have the blue backs while you have the green backs!!
@Rob-mv7oj
@Rob-mv7oj 2 жыл бұрын
Better be safe and add insulation to That closet wall. That way you won't disturb the people living in that closet lol
@johngrossbohlin7582
@johngrossbohlin7582 2 жыл бұрын
You could shim the center stud near the top like you did it near the middle… that would secure the top to something. Better than having the “top plate” attached to drywall only mid span.
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
Even that one at midspan is more than enough for how small it is.
@johngrossbohlin7582
@johngrossbohlin7582 2 жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter I was thinking about hanging cabinets… For rock alone it is fine for sure!
@carlmax46
@carlmax46 2 жыл бұрын
glad to see you wearing ear plugs.
@packers45678
@packers45678 2 жыл бұрын
Ben, can you pass on a link for the table saw rolling table and your glazier bar? I believe you have affiliate links
@renannascimento2423
@renannascimento2423 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏽
@RehabLife
@RehabLife 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I don't know if anyone has asked, but I have to know .. are you really 2.5m tall or is that ceiling low? It can't be much more than 2m! I'd feel very confined in that space.
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6 foot 1
@RehabLife
@RehabLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter you barely edge me out in height, but your drywall skills are leaps and bounds better than mine. Thoroughly enjoy watching you work.
@hexhex7220
@hexhex7220 2 жыл бұрын
"See that silverfish?" Ha ha ha ..Would be nice to think the guy who worked on my house, cared about " the hidden stuff" like you do..
@frenchiesfrankieandhenry
@frenchiesfrankieandhenry 2 жыл бұрын
At least they weren't duct taped together, I suppose.
@Steve-bj2se
@Steve-bj2se 2 жыл бұрын
Nice music
@makiestho
@makiestho 2 жыл бұрын
What to say, live proof that wood expands and contracts😅🤣🤣
@HisboiLRoi
@HisboiLRoi 2 жыл бұрын
4:02: That is one weird-ass ceiling, especially considering there is a floor above it.
@erg0centric
@erg0centric 2 жыл бұрын
That dish cabinet would yeet the wall right off of there, please paint 'no cabinets here' on the finished drywall.
@PepperLion
@PepperLion 8 ай бұрын
Don't hit a hammer with a hammer kids. It's dangerous and can easily cause shrapnel when two hardened metals hit each other. I know you're just baiting for these comments so here ya go 🍪💖
@frankpinmtl
@frankpinmtl 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ben is up early in BC....or late, as the case may be
@a_w_bukhari7579
@a_w_bukhari7579 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for fixing my work, bud! Could use the exposure lol jk
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@sleeknub
@sleeknub 2 жыл бұрын
My relatively uneducated impression is that framers use nail guns to frame. Why did you use screws? What are the pros and cons? Thanks! Also, why not use a stud finder or something to locate the joists in the ceiling?
@thoughtlesskills
@thoughtlesskills 2 жыл бұрын
Some may be preference, nail guns require extra tools, screw guns don't. There is also the shear vs pullout forces. Nails pull out easy but are much stronger against shearing forces than screws.
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
Nail guns are super loud and dusty in indoor spaces. Such a small job doesn't warrant a nail gun.
@sleeknub
@sleeknub 2 жыл бұрын
@@thoughtlesskills Thanks for the insight. While I think most professional framers use pneumatic nail guns, electric or gas ones are pretty common, so you’d only need that one tool (instead of also needed a compressor).
@sleeknub
@sleeknub 2 жыл бұрын
@@vancouvercarpenter makes sense. Thanks.
@soundman6645
@soundman6645 2 жыл бұрын
Hitting a hammer with a hammer .... OH the Horror ... :)
@conradcoolerfiend
@conradcoolerfiend 2 жыл бұрын
stan smiths? i prefer my steel toe flip flops. XD
@MonicaElleRose
@MonicaElleRose 2 жыл бұрын
i don't even own a hammer, and i find this video so greatl
@nicholasjohn1001
@nicholasjohn1001 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t you buy a stiletto?
@Titantitan001
@Titantitan001 2 жыл бұрын
Its not structural, so I mean maybe it was a quick slumlord technique with whatever he had laying around. Who knows.
@iphoneography
@iphoneography 2 жыл бұрын
Feather that like......
@thoughtlesskills
@thoughtlesskills 2 жыл бұрын
"less than good framing" So, like 50% of the framing nowadays?
@jiml5837
@jiml5837 2 жыл бұрын
9:23 - just stick a shim in between the two studs to tighten them up before you screw them together. Then the top plate would be tight to the ceiling.
@jdorffer
@jdorffer 2 жыл бұрын
Shame you, wear your safety glasses 🤓
@bishopsautocare4434
@bishopsautocare4434 2 жыл бұрын
Who dislikes this video?
@silverwoodchuck47
@silverwoodchuck47 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, safety glasses work better in front of your eyes!
@delt19
@delt19 2 жыл бұрын
Shames the unknown for roughly 2 minutes and 40 seconds. That's enough shaming. I don't need to shame anybody.
@mohamadshaw3862
@mohamadshaw3862 2 жыл бұрын
Exaggerate much? Lol
@tygoenamy7178
@tygoenamy7178 2 жыл бұрын
Amateur
@tonyc7352
@tonyc7352 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen many of your videos, I'm a fan. I didn't like this one, please don't start doing like so many other millions of youtubers who play music with a montage of you just doing things.
@sleeknub
@sleeknub 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including some photos of that wall in lieu of video. What are those boxes for? Seem really big for a typical residential junction box.
@vancouvercarpenter
@vancouvercarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea. I wasn't there for the electrical
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