Fixing The Diplomacy Bug - Why Everybody Hates You in Medieval II Total War [Vanilla]

Fixing The Diplomacy Bug - Why Everybody Hates You in Medieval II Total War [Vanilla] - Game Guides

Рет қаралды 83,252

4 жыл бұрын

Join the channel: / @tonerdistohumantnh
patreon.com/user?u=8075084
ko-fi.com/tonerdistohuman
Guides: Medieval II
Exterminate, Sack or Occupy - Why you should never Exterminate cities in Medieval II TW [Vanilla]: • Exterminate, Sack or O...
Gunpowder Units | A Guide to Battle Tactics | Medieval II Total War: • Gunpowder Units | A Gu...
Improving Authority - A Guide to Traits and Retinue in Medieval II Total War [Vanilla]: • Improving Authority - ...
The English are Ugly, Spaniards Angry & Muslims Cultured - Genetic Trait Bias - Medieval II: • Tier List | Genetic Tr...
Modding Guides: Medieval II
Basic Modding & File Unpacking - Medieval II Total War - Game Guides [A beginners first steps]: • Basic Modding & File U...
Fixing The Diplomacy Bug - Why Everybody Hates You in Medieval II Total War [Vanilla] - Game Guides: • Fixing The Diplomacy B...
Fixing the Passive AI Bug - Why Ai armies fail against Rebel Cities | Medieval II Total War: • Fixing the Passive AI ...
Diplomacy - Why Everyone Hates you (and how to fix it) | Medieval II Total War | Game Guides: • Diplomacy - Why Everyo...
Modding guns & Improving Musketeers | Medieval II Total War | Modding Guide: • Modding guns & Improvi...
Colossal Unit Scale - 5000 men per army | Medieval II Total War Modding Guide: • Colossal Unit Scale - ...
How to Unlock The Battle Editor in Medieval II Total War - Game Guides: • How to Unlock The Batt...
Adding Resources - Modding Games Guides - Rome & Medieval II Total War: • Adding Resources - Mod...
Islamic HRE, Catholic Turks, Orthodox Aztec Empire? - Mod Religion & Culture - Medieval II Total War: • Islamic HRE, Catholic ...
Permanent Stone Forts | Modding Medieval II Total War: • Permanent Stone Forts ...
Design your Perfect City or Castle | Modding Guide | Medieval II Total War: • Design your Perfect Ci...
Fixing Pikes in Medieval II Total War - Pikes are Perfectly Balanced & need no exploiting at all!: • Fixing Pikes in Mediev...
Unlocking Cut Content - Recruitable generals, mounted longbows & wagons [How to Guide - Medieval II]: • Unlocking Cut Content ...
Adding New Units to your Faction's Roster - Papal Varangian Guard!? [Medieval II Total War - Guides]: • Adding New Units to yo...
Unlock Playable Factions: Medieval II
Unlocking The Mongols Faction as Playable - Medieval II Total War - Game Guides: • Unlocking The Mongols ...
Unlocking The Timurids Faction as Playable - Medieval II Total War [Game Guides]: • Unlocking The Timurids...
Unlocking The Kalmar Union - Game Guides - Medieval II Total War - Teutonic: • Unlocking The Kalmar U...
Norway as a Playable Faction | Medieval II Total War | Teutonic Kingdoms Game Guides: • Norway as a Playable F...
Unlocking England in The Americas Expansion - Game Guides - Medieval II Total War: • Unlocking England in T...
Unlocking New France in The Americas Expansion - Game Guides - Medieval II Total War: • Unlocking New France i...
Unlocking the Barons Alliance - Medieval II Total War - Britannia Kingdoms - Game Guides: • Unlocking the Barons A...
Crusader Venice as a Playable Faction | Medieval II Total War | Crusader Kingdoms: • Crusader Venice as a P...
Unlocking The Rebels, Saxons and Normans in Custom Battle - Medieval II TW [How to Game Guides]: • Unlocking The Rebels, ...
Unlocking The Normans as a Playable Faction | Medieval II Total War | Game Guides: • Unlocking The Normans ...
Unlocking The Saxons as a Playable Faction | Medieval II Total War | Game Guides: • Unlocking The Saxons a...
Diplomacy has always been a little bugged (non existent) in vanilla Medieval II Total War. I'll show you how you can fix this and better understand the triggers for your faction's changing reputation.
Basic Modding & File Unpacking: • Basic Modding & File U...
Unlocking Cut Content: • Unlocking Cut Content ...
Battle Map Editor: • How to Unlock The Batt...
Occupy, Sack, Exterminate: • Exterminate, Sack or O...
Improving authority traits: • Improving Authority - ...
Mod Religion and Culture: • Islamic HRE, Catholic ...
Changing Cities and Castles: • Design your Perfect Ci...
Modding Unit Stats: • Editing Unit Stats & U...
Mod Resources: • Adding Resources - Mod...
Medieval II Campaigns:
Artillery Only - Medieval II Total War: • Artillery Only | Medie...
Papal States | Pacifist Run | Medieval II: • Papal States - Pacifis...
Islamic Holy Roman Empire | Medieval II: • Islamic Holy Roman Emp...
Timurids | Medieval II Total War: • Timurids Campaign #1 T...
Rebels | Medieval II Total War: • Medieval 2 Total War -...
Hitler Reacts to The Mongol Invasion - A Meme video in Honour of Medieval II Total War - • Hitler Reacts to The M...

Пікірлер: 293

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

A (potentially obvious) note of caution here: Have back up copies of any files you edit. ENJOY!

@natknutson1482 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly this does not work on linux. Feral redid EVERYTHING but kept all bugs nicely preserved. Yay. I can't even find the desc files. Certainly aren't any tools or anything.

@andreasthanopoulos7918 3 жыл бұрын

hi i want to add more settlements and regions on the campaign map. can you help me how to do this if is possible? thanks a lot

@JohnDoe-zu2cm 2 жыл бұрын

@@andreasthanopoulos7918 You would essentialy have to make an entire mod.

@spenceremerson5044 2 жыл бұрын

Could you not just add the one semi colan? isn't the way you wrote the new code removing all penalties for razing cities as well?

@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK Жыл бұрын

@@spenceremerson5044 you can't raze in med2

@quantregio5976 4 жыл бұрын

I have been always ok with M2TW diplomacy. I have two reliable allies that never betray me. They are my army and fleet.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Pahaha. That all depends on just how loyal your men are of course! ;)

@aisir3725 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, Alexander III, what about your troops deserting?

@ev6558 3 жыл бұрын

_Rome 2 has entered the chat._

@helium-379 3 жыл бұрын

Spam assasins and murder as many characters as you can and you will see your dread and authority climb. Your armies and cities will be unlikely to rebel.

@NobleKorhedron 3 жыл бұрын

@Quant Regio: What difficulty?

@runswithbears3517 3 жыл бұрын

One pretty useful trick I only learned recently, is that when breaking an agreement (like an alliance) or declaring war, you can actually compensate the other party to avoid a reputation loss. For example, if you break a trade agreement through the diplomacy screen the game will probably tell you the other party does not like this deal. If you break the agreement but also compensate them (until the deal is rated "Balanced" or higher), you will not suffer a loss in relations nor will you suffer reputation penalty for breaking an agreement.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

Great point. I never really thought of it in those terms but yeah I suppose if the deal overall is fair then you are still being a reputable kingdom.

@enterwind97 3 жыл бұрын

15 years and there are still things to be found in this game.

@Zach-mw5so 3 жыл бұрын

@@enterwind97 Just goes to show that love and effort from the developers really will go far. Doesn’t have the best graphics compared to now, but the mechanics and intricacies of the older TW’s blows all the new ones out of the water. Not to mention the mod ability of the older titles

@godlymoose9118 2 жыл бұрын

break agreement and ask them for 300 florins per turn for the next 99999999999 turns

@MelkorGG 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. I got to look more into that file and those semi colons then, maybe some lost cut-content in there XD

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

There are a few lines cut out in there. Go wild 🤣 Obviously slaves are designed to be at a completely negative relationship every turn, but they cut out the relationship update screen as they probably noticed that every turn you'd be updated that you hate the rebels 😅 There's some other odd stuff about diplomatic insults and attacking Othordox on crusades. Worth a dig into methinks.

@lordblenkinsopp1537 4 жыл бұрын

MELKOR YOU’RE HERE

@MelkorGG 4 жыл бұрын

@@lordblenkinsopp1537 I'm everywhere. : )

@matthewbrennan3127 3 жыл бұрын

HAIL MELKOR

@VitorEmanuelOliver 4 жыл бұрын

The way to correct the bug is to conquer everyone using cheesy tactics

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Corner fight the whole game. Sorted. That or Timurid Elephants.

@Sanguinn 2 жыл бұрын

Blitz with Holy Roman Empire, won vh/vh even before the Mongols arrive lol.

@TheGhostbuster1989 4 жыл бұрын

OMG!! I had no Idea this was a bug and that I can fix it. Thanks so much for this. Liked and Subscribed!!

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help. Hope you like the other stuff on the channel.

@comedyrulez1 Жыл бұрын

Three. Semicolons. All this friggen time!!! I wish I'd discovered this video so, so much earlier. IDK how long it took you to discover this, but thank you SO much.

@0MVR_0 2 жыл бұрын

There is a trigger referred to as 'BandTogethor' which allows for smaller factions to increase relation. When in combination with 'Tall_Poppy', used to automate hatred to large factions, Med2 might look comparable to a paradox title in aggressive expansion.

@harrysmith3988 4 жыл бұрын

That's such a silly little bug! Thank you very much.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@aisir3725 3 жыл бұрын

In my latest Scotland campaign i pushed angles s of isles by turn 12, only occupied cities and ransomed troops, next turn i signed peace with them and started peacefully expanding into rebel towns, 10 turns later i am at war with France, England, HRE, Portugal and Denmark keeps landing troops near Nottingham and loading them back, but wouldn't attack, all of this wars were declared in span of 2 turns and i had 2 cities sieged by 0.5-0.6 stacks whole the garrison was like 1 squad and almost full stack sitting on doorstep of London

@RossoNero1987 2 жыл бұрын

As England I had alliance with Scotland, Denmark, France Germany, Spain and Portugal. Just in case so I could expand on rebel cities. I attacked Scotland before so they don't grow strong but pope dude warned me of the curse. 20 turns later Scotland attacked me... And Germany in the same turn. Two turns later France also attacked me, so I destroyed Scotland, kicked France ass and scared Germany, now i'm in peace with them :D

@danielgally6389 2 жыл бұрын

if by some legendary feat of cheese you managed to fight all that off, then finally get ready to take one measly town the pope would give you a cease hostilities, you'd back off into an enemy ambush and get excommunicated for not surrenduring

@jshabadoo 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video, great coming back to this game and being able to fix everything yourself!

@julianusofcrete3729 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff - helpful as always!

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help!

@Ma_Zhongying 3 жыл бұрын

Julianus Vatinius, is that you?

@ahmedjamalhabibi1173 4 жыл бұрын

Quality and helpful content, you deserve a sub

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated! More like it to come.

@Kugerl2 2 жыл бұрын

My god I have been looking for a fix for this for ages, thank you!

@minnie988 2 жыл бұрын

An Excellent guide!

@gordonthomas5756 Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe I just came across this. You’re literally a saint.

@chris_cracknell 3 жыл бұрын

Ive never really cared what other factions think of me. But if the pope has a poor opinion trouble can occur. To cure that just send a diplomat to rome and ply them with cash every now and then. Bingo, your reputation remains high

@coreysmithson4002 6 ай бұрын

I wish i could fix the diplomatic bug in real life and figure out why everyone hates me

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 6 ай бұрын

I feel you deeply sir! 😅

@coreysmithson4002 6 ай бұрын

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH haha. Thanks for the great content! You've gotten me back into Medieval 2 again, truly a timeless game

@Cloud43001 2 жыл бұрын

One good way i found was reputation, its a bit of a pain to let go of some man, but when you release men and get an immaculate reputation I find it way easier to get peace or to stay at peace, also a large army on the frontlines also helps to keep the enemy at bay the Ai only attacks when it thinks it can win.

@TheHuskyFamily 2 жыл бұрын

basically if you cant be bothered to edit the bug just sack the city every time:D -0.02 vs 0.05 if you occupy or exterminate

@neman135 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@roguewasbanned4746 2 жыл бұрын

Ah so this is why the “always sack the settlement” saying makes sense

@Suraknar 2 жыл бұрын

Reinstalled the Game recently and started a Campaign, this seems to be working, I made a few more changes though to some other areas reducing some penalties. Some 60 turns in (playing at 2 turns per year) relations are good and steady without wondering why they are constantly getting worse.

@Granditaz 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! :)

@aggelos8256 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, was just searching on internet guides about this but couldn't really understand them! Thx a lot, would ask: do you recommend the mod stainless steel?

@harrysmith3988 4 жыл бұрын

A video is so much simpler to understand isn't it!? Those written guides are very confusing.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to help! I haven't played stainless steel as i tend to play around with the vanilla game myself. I've seen quite a lot of it though and it seems pretty darn solid.

@fedgesmedjji7494 2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone taken out the semi-colons for the change to target settlement's enemy's relationship so that the enemy of your enemy has a relationship change based on how you handled taking a settlement? Just curious on how this changed gameplay if at all.

@richardtaylor215 4 жыл бұрын

Role-playing ridiculous Portugal in the thumbnail I see!? 😅 They were always the sort to randomly invade half way across the map.

@harrysmith3988 4 жыл бұрын

Second to Milan, they are the most insane!

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Portugal is a fun campaign. Tricky but enjoyable!

@tglaws27 11 ай бұрын

just recently found your channel, thanks for doing these tutorials. I have a question though, does this change affect the AI behavior in the Kingdoms games too?

@dman1988 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, man! I fixed this bug as well as passive ai bug. The game feels different, you can play with diplomacy, make strong alliances, etc. It's great, cause it became more of a strategy than just conquering the Word. Stil, I think the amount of positive effect from occupying a city is probablys too big. I would make it +0,25 for occupy instead of +0,5. Cause you need just 3-4 occupied cities to significantly improve your reputation, which change the whole course of the campaign dramatically. I'm playing as France now and with perfect reputation and strong army almost everyone turns to be my vassal after 2-3 fight wins, I don't even need to besiege their capital, etc. I made almost the whole Europe my vassals on vh/vh by turn 60 or so.

@mygmail6579 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!! One question Do i need to set the Faction Standing file to read only?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you do. Though I do recall that I would sometimes play with read only to make the files behave. Try without first I suggest.

@landsman420 4 жыл бұрын

Does this only work on the Steam version? I have an old CD version of Medieval 2 and didn't have a faction_standing file in my data folder. I created one and added the altered content but I'm not sure if my old game version recognizes this folder or if it only exists in the steam version of the game Any clues?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

A good question. You should be able to use the code on the back of the booklet to play via steam. I haven't used the cd version for years so I must say I don't know what differences there are. In rome, the file is in its own folder called 'preferences', but other than that uggestion I'm not sure!

@Zach-mw5so 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this guide! I've always wondered too, why everyone seems to hate me. Even though I try to be trustworthy. I followed your guide and it seems to work. Do you know if this works for the Kingdoms campaigns? If not, its not as big of a deal anyway since there aren't as many factions that'll hate you.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

It does indeed work on Kingdoms. If my Kalmar campaign is anything to go by then alliances will stand happily pretty much until you're ranked number 1. Only then will they start to stab you in the back.

@Zach-mw5so 3 жыл бұрын

To Nerd is to Human TNH Makes sense. Gang up on the superpower. That’s how diplomacy is supposed to work. Thanks again :)

@ragael1024 3 жыл бұрын

Mate u've just saved me a lot of pain. Cheers.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 2 жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

@twitterdonmechonero8809 2 жыл бұрын

Hello! I'm using Vanilla Beyond mod, and there is not available that descr_factionstanding.txt. If I import that .txt from the original MTW2 unpacker and place it in the Vanilla Beyond data folder, could that work?

@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын

Haven't tested it for myself yet but this would honestly be so amazing. Everyone on the entire damn planet wants to kill me. Even if I have someone down to their final city and I offer them literally everything if they just stop fucking attacking me, they refuse to give in. I know it's called Total War but I enjoy building my empire. And war was incredibly expensive. Constant full scale invasions all year every year from everyone ganging up on me really breaks the immersion. No one is going to do that unless they are an insanely powerful empire in comparison to their neighbours. Two even sides going at it indefinitely is not feasible.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed! Even with this tweak you have to play in a precise way to manage diplomacy but it is far more doable. Usually when the AI declares war if you brutalise them in a 1 or 2 battles and sue for peace next turn then they give you silly money. But take one of their cities and usually it is just a forever war... Total War it is...

@wafflingmean4477 2 жыл бұрын

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH Yeah I've been playing with the bug fixed for most of the week and it's so good. Getting alliances is much easier as well. Everyone kept attacking me, which was reducing my papal standing when I fought back, and then I negotiated an alliance with the Papal States, who are protecting my southern border. And now anyone who attacks me starts to lose their standing. The Hungarians got excommunicated for it and then I took almost all of their lands.

@Alexiosization 2 жыл бұрын

@@wafflingmean4477 that sounds really cool bro

@dylanram4653 10 ай бұрын

do u also change that file to read only as well or no?

@kevinhernandezretana2170 2 жыл бұрын

I just hate it how neighboring factions treat trespassing as nothing - I'm always like "GET THE FUCK OUTTA MY LANDS!!" >:(

@SimonAshworthWood Жыл бұрын

I feel similar… however, looking on the bright side, it helps provoke war - which is what the game is about, no? Also, I reckon when factions trespass on my land, it’s them telegraphing that they’ll attack me in the future… so I appreciate it as a hint to prep for war against them.

@kevinhernandezretana2170 Жыл бұрын

@@SimonAshworthWood But when you do a pre-emptive attack YOU get punished for it by the pope due to the dumb relationship mechanic in this game. The A.I plays the "I'm not touching you, I'm not touching you" game and you end up in a lose-lose situation: You attack first, everyone hates you now. You do nothing, they get an upper hand moving more forces in. Glad Total War improved the relationship/trespassing mechanic later on

@countmrvhs776 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, I'll have to get around to trying this :) As a much more frequent player of RTW, I'm very curious about the relationship between these 2 games in terms of diplomacy. There is no diplomacy file in RTW, and therefore no way to peek under the hood to figure how the AI makes its decisions. However, I've long suspected that M2 uses the same basic system of RTW, but with more transparency (i.e., the game actually tells you how the AI evaluates its offers, and shows you your standing and relationships, none of which is given in RTW). I have no idea, therefore, if Occupying, Enslaving, or Exterminating cities in RTW affects diplomatic standing or relationships... which would be nice to know!

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I would assume its very similar as the game engine is the same. Perhaps in Med II it is simply a little more transparent than in Rome. I think there are more triggers to help your relationships too but that is just a guess. Yeah I have wanted to do a video on Rome's occupy, enslave exterminate options but I would want to have a better idea of the relationship impacts caused by it. I suspect it doesn't change things and that's why it was emphasised more in medieval II.

@SageManeja 3 жыл бұрын

Why dont CA fix this? seems like quite an easy update to do. Changing a text file.

@0MVR_0 2 жыл бұрын

There is no team responsible for maintaining Medieval two.

@cactusfacemcgillicuddy Жыл бұрын

Will this work for a current campaign or will it only go into effect on a new campaign after altering the file?

@blasty137 Жыл бұрын

I always hated diplomacy in Total War games, they're basically programmed so that everyone attacks you as soon as you get in touch with them. The worst of all is that a functional diplomacy system is extremely easy to make. I'm currently playing as the Byzantines, I wanted to play nice, no sacking/exterminating, no breaking treaties, maintain high reliability, etc. And everyone still kept attacking me. 50 turns into the game there were 10 wars going on, and I was involved in 7 of them despite never actually attacking anyone. So then I said fuck this shit, went full Mongol on everyone and I'm already down to 4 wars. Once I played as Scotland, conquered the British Isles and just wanted to develop my cities and economy in peace without further expansion. But Denmark, Spain and freaking Portugal kept landing and attacking me all the time.

@n0sf3ratu5 2 жыл бұрын

well Ive managed to apply the modification but when I apply "read only" to the preference file, lots of the text disappears from the game, such as the menu text or the win conditions. sb experienced this to and can help?

@AWENGERR 3 жыл бұрын

I always thinked that AI in Total War games have strange behavior. 14 years after release of game and still full of bugs. Good job i will do that. Maybe you should check Shogun 2 as well ? I have the same experience that all hates me after 5 years.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know Shogun 2 as well but I can take a look! To some extent it is just the way the AI are designed in total war games but there may be a little thing like this too!

@tylerwhaley4872 2 жыл бұрын

you probably expanded too quickly and attacked people that had lots of friends.

@user-qz7it3cc2y 2 жыл бұрын

Shogun 2 is fine, never had a problem like that.

@TheDarkness2582 2 жыл бұрын

this caption is actually my life story

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@TheMidwestGaming 3 жыл бұрын

I cant seem to find a _descr_factions_standing_ in the "M2TW Total Vanilla Beyond" mod. It's in the base-game's files, though. Is there any way to use that diplomacy fix in the mod? Does editing the one in the base files make it compatible for all of the Kingdoms expansions *and* the mod, since they're all located in the "mods" folder?

@sauromatae9728 3 жыл бұрын

if mod has no file in its folder, it uses the same file from the base game as a placeholder. so yeah, either create new file or edit file in the base game.

@TheMidwestGaming 3 жыл бұрын

@@sauromatae9728 Thank you!!

@Spasmann 7 ай бұрын

I tried to fix the bug with your video I first watched your modding video and did the stuff ther. Now I can’t open the game do you know what the problem could be?

@TheGoldennach 2 жыл бұрын

Do I need to start a new campaign for the change in the file to take effect?😶

@PaulJohn01 2 жыл бұрын

Should you start a new campaign or would this work during a campaign, would this affect mods negatively/positively ?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 2 жыл бұрын

It does work during a current campaign but unless it is very early on it is likely the damage is a already done. You'll more likely see the effects on a new game.

@thebenevolentsun6575 4 ай бұрын

It always annoys me how people hate you more and more as you get bigger when it should be the opposite

@Zooptastix 2 жыл бұрын

Sicily can never be stopped

@LateRoundLegends 2 жыл бұрын

In case you were wondering, it does not seem to be fixed for the mobile version of the game 🙄

@Rafael00000_ 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Does this works for games that have already started?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. It won't recalculate the previous triggers but it will change diplomacy from thereon-in. Though if your reputation is too low it may well be best to restart.

@tugrulserhat 3 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot for thia tutorial man. I guess they just forgot to add those at the start because as you said, they probably didn't want that trigger to be active. did you find out about this yourself just going through the files and modding ? also, how can I prevent the desertion on crusades and jihads and why is it so extreme ? (%80 of army runs away before reaching destination)

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing it on an old blog post from probably a decade back. Thought it was more common knowledge than it was. Glad people are making use of the fix, it makes a big difference I find!

@YY-ug9mv 3 жыл бұрын

Dont go in a direction away from the target city.It causes major desersiton.

@tugrulserhat 3 жыл бұрын

@@YY-ug9mv alacağım şehre doğru gitsem de oluyor yaklaştıkça. saçma bence

@YY-ug9mv 3 жыл бұрын

@@tugrulserhat valla ben din adamı koyuyorum orduyla beraber, piety artırarak azaltırım diye tahmin ediyorum mantık olarak veya yüksek pietyli generaller kullanıyorum, kanıtlanmış birşey değil ama sanki işe yarıyor dene derim

@tugrulserhat 3 жыл бұрын

@@YY-ug9mv denerim ben de sağol

@SomeOne-ti2cz 2 жыл бұрын

Does this work with mods? Also, can I load a game after I make the changes?

@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 жыл бұрын

Basically That Worked Like Aggressive Expansion In EU4 But A Bit Extreme

@MrStaridever28 4 ай бұрын

Mate, just one question. With this fix, does this affects AI aggressivness towards player? If my reputation and global standing is good, will AI attack me every 3 turns like a horde of zombies? Or it is just more likely for AI to offer you ceasefire and accept one from you? Thank you, all the best!

@MrKaiyooo 2 жыл бұрын

It always seems like this is one of those things. The definitive disk version feels so much better than the steam version. Just because of these little bug fixes they forgot to rectify

@2LoveRebuke 10 ай бұрын

Was diplomacy fixed in the disk version? It seems to me i remember taking everything even on very hard. I don't remember it ever being this hard though. Playing as Russia (for the first time) I'm at war with every neighbor and some of the neighbor's neighbors. I have hardly gotten any trade income all game. Without trade income i can barely keep enough troops made to fend off the deluge of attacks even with the occasional save scum.

@gabrielemichelli8341 Жыл бұрын

I tried with vanilla beyond mod installed and It did't work, do you have any suggestion?

@Arnechk Жыл бұрын

If the first line says +0,05 and the second one -0,05, shouldn't occupying be a sum of 0?

@ellbo2 Жыл бұрын

I can't seem to find this file. I've looked around and nothing. Any ideas?

@goblindvd 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to make alliances last longer?

@markoantonijevic9683 4 жыл бұрын

So I did all the unpacking and stuff, but I can't see the unpacked files, so I can't edit them. It's like they aren't there. Same with my save files, I can see them when I run the game but, when I open the saves, it's empty. Any help?

@markoantonijevic9683 4 жыл бұрын

Also, I have the Medieval 2 Total War Gold, so idk if that makes a difference?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

I've looked into it and yes, Gold edition does make a difference - essentially there's a missing unpacker file. I can't experiment myself to guide you as I don't have that version. But it is discussed on the total war centre site: www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?355307-Unpacking-The-very-first-steps-amp-simplest-method-for-new-modders I hope that helps.

@markoantonijevic9683 4 жыл бұрын

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my comment as well as looking into it yourself! I will definitely look into it more

@JoeyMLewis 2 жыл бұрын

I searched the internet for "Medieval II Total War why does everyone hate me" and this great easy to follow video showed up! Thank you! I have a problem though, I followed these instructions and now the game won't launch, can you think of why that might be or how I can fix that?

@JoeyMLewis 2 жыл бұрын

Not to worry, I just validated the files on Steam and it seems to be working again. Thank you again for a great video that even a Victorian like me can follow it! :D

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 2 жыл бұрын

I love that those were your search terms... sums it up right!?! It is pretty much my opening lines 😅 Happy to help, fellow Victorian. In spite of all my modding videos, the channel is very much based on the premise that if a numpty like me can somehow mod this game then you probably can too! Happy Modding!

@wololoman3314 3 жыл бұрын

I played as England as always got backstabbed by the whole Christindome. At first I tried to get an alliance but after few round they all started to gang up on me and the pope threaten to excommunicated me for defending myself. Portugal always invade my country by sea and after I repel them. They send a diplomat for ceasefire and requested I pay 13k of gold for reparation. I've been more war with a Christian country than a Muslim. I started my war at turn 12 and now I'm at 174 struggling to survive because I keep getting backstabbed.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I was looking to do a video exploring the pope mechanics. You can get away with attacking them inside your territory and it won't badly affect the pope's relationship with you but if you counter attack into their territory then the pope won't care who started it!

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

And backstabbing in Med II is a constant menace. This diplomacy fix helps a bit if you do go around occupying... Still, once you get to number 1 in the end of turn report stats they will all turn on you no matter what your reputation. Same if you are too near the bottom. Try to be unremarkable! 😂

@markdotinc8371 4 ай бұрын

Me, having sacked every single settlement: 🙃

@TheMadTurtle 2 жыл бұрын

Does it work if I already have a campaign started?

@hunterthewerewolf 2 жыл бұрын

Is there anyone having this problem: I unpack the files then follow the steps in this video only to have text missing from certain places when on the campaign map? For example when in diplomacy where there should be options for "Offers" and "Demands" but there is nothing at all?

@fatnootz3466 Жыл бұрын

Is this applicable to RTW aswell? Diplomacy and allyship are kind of redundant and mean nothing in that game aswell

@christianflores3437 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@rafaelsabino9745 3 жыл бұрын

I can't find the file in the game data folder. Is it because I have the CD version? (Gold Edition)

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

In Gold Edition, the unpacking of the data folder may happen at another destination such as in your virtual store and not in Program Files e.g. (AppData/Local/Virtual Store/Medieval2). Perhaps that is what happened for you?

@martingoodier849 3 жыл бұрын

Can you add the semicolons to occupying and extermination too?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah absolutely. Haven't tested how that impacts gameplay but it would stop those lines being read by the game, yes.

@renetio7378 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to make my ally dislike my enemies as well?? If so pls make a video I have subbed :)

@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK Жыл бұрын

Can this be edited on the android version too?

@fogwar Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I recently started a campaign against Scotland; I release all prisoners and occupy all settlements, and my rating went from Immaculate to Despicable. I couldn't figure out why, but I guess this is it!

@mcsmash4905 Жыл бұрын

probably has something to do with you as a christian fighting other cristians , i generaly stay away from fellow christians unless i cant help it heck i even gave durazzo to venice just so they fuck off and peace out

@thecynicaloptimist1884 Жыл бұрын

I dunno, I made these edits and started a new campaign, and it's been fine ever since!

@KawaiiSoulB42 10 ай бұрын

To use the unpacker file in tools move everything under Med2exe and put it in the packer says YES 3 x and it unpacks it

@bradpitt5355 Жыл бұрын

I cant believe they dont fix it to this day

@SgtAndrewM 8 ай бұрын

One wonders why this was never patched when it was discovered

@OkstadOo Жыл бұрын

Ok, I have a lengthy question, hope you find the time to answer. I have known about this glitch for a decade, and I always remember to implement it. However downloaded a fresh install the other day to play some vanilla and fixed the pikes before launching. Of course, after taking one settlement I remembered to go fix diplo aswell. In my experience this can be done mid playthrough. IIRC if you don't fix your file, the global rep will never improve beyond mixed. Now I have a turn 79 save. I'm at war with 8 factions they alle started, some of them allies with good relations. No one will take vassaldom, not even England, whom I offered three settlements. No one will take a ceasefire. The pope refused my alliance with perfect relations. I HAVE IMMACULATE REP for the first time ever. 1.0. Maxed. Everyone treats me exactly the same as any with despicable rep. No one will take any deal, no matter what. Why? Is this hardcoded in my save file, since I changed it after starting? That can't be the case since my global rep has actually changed, right?

@SEXTETOFANTASTICO 2 жыл бұрын

nice

@MaFe1992 7 ай бұрын

I do not have all these folders and files when i click into data, why is that? I only have Animations, cursors, fmv, sounds and world.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 7 ай бұрын

You'll need to unpack the other files: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ed95mbOi1N7ammw.htmlsi=urt7c_3tT8u1jmj4

@ManiacalClone Жыл бұрын

Has anybody had an issue with unpacking the Teutonic campaign for its files? Mine gets to file 260 or so and then just closes without unpacking

@josephleyk833 2 жыл бұрын

Did the steps but now the program wont run. I tried running it from steam, my desktop shortcut, and from my files. Anyone know why that would be?

@stephaneroberge5182 Жыл бұрын

Try this mod but now, everybody loves me and even when I broke an alliance, I was able to go from very unthrustworthy to reliable over time and quite rapidly.

@amar1mazlami844 4 жыл бұрын

I did everything like you but now whenever i join a battle the game crashes.And when i make everything the same as it was it doesnt help.Have you any idea what i can do ?

@amar1mazlami844 4 жыл бұрын

Its some geography files that need to be deleted everythings fine :) thanks for the vid.

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

@@amar1mazlami844 oh gosh the geography files, yes. I'm guessing you have an older version of the game because I remember that solution ages back. I'll make an extra pinned comment on the video to remind people of that problem. Cheers!

@iliketrains746 4 жыл бұрын

@@amar1mazlami844 hey, can you explain how you solved this problem? I also have an older version of the game and now my battles are chrashing too (after I fixed the bug)

@user-gq6rv5wp2p 3 жыл бұрын

Does the game run without a crash after the changes are made? I'm usually afraid to change something because it can then make the whole game unstable

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I have personally had no stability issues at all and I play with these changes permanently. Sometimes people do find the older games struggle on modern computers but I imagine if yours usually runs well that this will not change that! Just make sure you have a back up of any file before you change it around. :)

@user-gq6rv5wp2p 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH and does it really help? I mean Byzantine will not try to swim half the map to me if I play let's say, Spain? Because even if my relations were good and my princess was married to my ally he backstabbed me anyway. With my reputation being good

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-gq6rv5wp2p It helps slow down the madness as any time you occupy you will now improve your reputation and your relations. But that is literally the only change here. You will still need to be active in your diplomatic gestures as on harder difficulties the speed at which relationships deteriorate is steep. In data there is a file called descr_sm_factions In there you can chose if a faction prefers naval invasions or not. Setting that to no may well help a lot with those random invasions!

@user-gq6rv5wp2p 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH disabling naval visitors would really help. Thanks, I'll try that. I remember once I played Third age Total war. I quit because I wasn't a fan of Tolkien, but diplomacy there was unbelievably better. If you are an ally, you cant backstab him like a sly cowardly c.nt. you had to send an envoy first and break the alliance officially. Damn, that was good. That's what vanilla misses badly

@nevadanate4957 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-gq6rv5wp2p yeah but in Med II it costs you reputation to break alliances. With the bug fix alliances aren't likely to break unless they have no choice or you really let your reputation slip

@steppinstones6491 3 жыл бұрын

wouldnt it be better to remove the semicolon next to the trigger line so razing a city has a proper diplomacy trigger at all?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe... you can fiddle with all the options there to get the balance you like best! :)

@nevadanate4957 2 жыл бұрын

Razing cities doesn't happen in the game so I don't know if that would just prevent the occupy trigger from setting those off, or if it would do nothing.

@SimonAshworthWood Жыл бұрын

Why would taking a city increase your global standing? It would make people see you as a warmonger and threat to world peace, and more of a threat because you’re more powerful.

@javalres9606 4 жыл бұрын

how do you turn on the trade traffic ? steam medieval 2 its gone

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the little wagons on the screen? Maybe you simply have no trade? 😜 not something I've notice before. Is it an accidental click of a hockey?

@Yoinkyst 3 ай бұрын

Everyone hates me when I use england

@Vekhh Жыл бұрын

It doesnt work for already created games?

@imperialfront6366 2 жыл бұрын

can you make a tutorial on how to upload our mods?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 2 жыл бұрын

I've never done it myself but it is something I want to learn about so in time I should get to that, yes!

@NathanThomass 3 жыл бұрын

I unpacked the files and changed the diplomacy but now my game refuses to start, any help?

@nevadanate4957 2 жыл бұрын

When unpacking you need to delete the following files or it won't run: descr_geography_new.txt and descr_geography_new.db

@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK Жыл бұрын

I'm In a HRE game, tur 60. I allied with Milan and Hungary at the start and declared not a single war.... Milan turned on me right away and turned the other Italian States on to me. Now I have to fight off byzantines, France, Milan, Venice, Poland, Denmark and sicily!! Wtf. This was a pacifist run too!!! Thanks so much for this video as it explains exactly what happened as I was being chivalrous.

@shrekas2966 3 жыл бұрын

Does this fix Kingdoms expansions as well?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Though you would need to edit the descr_faction_standing file inside each subfolder as they have their own version of the file.

@thecursed01 2 ай бұрын

damn. that file isn't in my folders. most others are thanks to kingdoms and retrofit

@ausenciomartinez-olvidares1294 3 жыл бұрын

Does this big still exist on the Stainless Steel mod?

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

I don't use the mod but I'm reliably informed that it has been fixed on there!

@ausenciomartinez-olvidares1294 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToNerdistoHumanTNH aight thanks man great video!

@tahahasan236 Жыл бұрын

"Diplomacy failed us this day"

@adumbass8759 3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever noticed the time passes by weirdly? Like your family members grows 50 years older but more than 100 years passes over? Is it just me or do this really happen?

@wilfredwilfred1730 3 жыл бұрын

Time is bs in medieval 2 total war, the soldiers in your army are literally immortal

@SimonAshworthWood Жыл бұрын

You can change this by modding the game’s time system to fit the ageing of characters.

@Arnechk Жыл бұрын

@@SimonAshworthWood But then everything else is out of whack, if you want realism. I was working on a mod that balances everything to scale 1:1, but the AI would end up having deathstacks of farmers because I made the recruiting progress of professional units much longer and costlier compared to peasants, much more so the buildings. So the AI said fk it, wont bother, i can surely afford peasants so peasants it is. I might give it another try in the future, but i doubt. :D

@raygodwin3496 3 жыл бұрын

How do o find the game code with the o e downloaded through steam

@ToNerdistoHumanTNH 3 жыл бұрын

My file is in steam library / steam apps / common / Medieval II Total War. Yours could be in virtual store though. Apologies for missing this comment! Hopefully this helps if you haven't already solved it! :)

@campionpesate4647 10 ай бұрын

Played as Hungary for the first time. Around 20 turns in, two factions attacked me, Poland threatened to attack me unless I give them money, and there's a huge rebel army in my territory. I'm like, dude, I'm playing on Normal....

@bigblackjay900 Жыл бұрын

Playing as Milan 13 turns in already fought against Sicily 4 times(all seige defenses) went after their city ONCE Papal States: D:< Next turn Byzantine Empire went out of their way (while in a war against Venice and Hungary) to seige florence