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Fixing World of Warcraft

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MadSeasonShow

MadSeasonShow

Күн бұрын

World of Warcraft is in a low right now. Criticism is all well and good, but in this video I've compiled a list of suggestions I think would improve the game overall.
If you have any suggestions, requests, or just general feedback let me know in the comments or with a message. I try my best to answer or at least read as many as I can.
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@flaflaflamingo
@flaflaflamingo 4 жыл бұрын
"I can't wait to play my mage after I'm done with chores!" *logs on* "Oh."
@dadmemes2507
@dadmemes2507 4 жыл бұрын
At this point... I’m pretty sure it’s just the art team that has any passion for Blizzard and WoW
@alexandermartinez1318
@alexandermartinez1318 4 жыл бұрын
It's always the art teams that shine because these lazy companies think thats all they need. They think were alll idiots and only care for petty things
@lierofjeld5051
@lierofjeld5051 4 жыл бұрын
And music
@Mati-mk5wd
@Mati-mk5wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@lierofjeld5051 music is art....
@lierofjeld5051
@lierofjeld5051 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mati-mk5wd true
@Avrelivs_Gold
@Avrelivs_Gold 4 жыл бұрын
they suck since draenor came out worst item design, zone design, everything millions of polygons in totally fake design, with shitty colors. looks like some zoomer interns art. as much as i hate pandas and pet battles etc, pandaria had beautiful memorable landscapes and architecture.
@zul448
@zul448 4 жыл бұрын
"You don't need daily busywork to keep people playing. You need a well designed and rewarding MMO to keep people playing" THIS. RIGHT. HERE. Someone please make modern game developers understand this. I'm tired of the mobile-game-like treadmill every major online game has turned into lately.
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 4 жыл бұрын
That's the entire problem though. None of that "daily busywork" is even necessary. It doesn't preclude you from participating in end-game content.
@shadowlife15
@shadowlife15 4 жыл бұрын
@@cstgraphpads2091 Go level a character to 120, and now skip all of that daily busywork and see if a guild will take you along in their raid, (hint hint, they won't). you will be sub 300 ilvl with a level 2 or 3 neck and no azerite or essences. You won't have flying, and you won't be able to get into raids or mythic dungeons. Now you have to grind out that crappy content to even start playing the end game content.
@elitebooger8208
@elitebooger8208 4 жыл бұрын
The sad true is inbetween people will stop playing that just how it is. No game has perfect player retention but blizzard can do way better.
@Warcrafter4
@Warcrafter4 4 жыл бұрын
@@bitbraindev Dark souls does have quests with big pay offs. Heck using the most popular one DS3 as an example you'd need to do one of 2 quests to get 3 out of the 4 possible endings to the game.
@ultralurker7579
@ultralurker7579 4 жыл бұрын
We fought the casual market tooth and nail. But now that the casual gamers have been conquered they to are the veterans. And they see what has been taken. Accessibility and engagement. Braindead mechanics. Streamlining. Stat overhauls. Game wasn't broken, but they fixed it for sure.
@frogturtle
@frogturtle 4 жыл бұрын
LFR: Jim Arm Thing of Smell Bad Normal: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts Heroic: Sir Jimmothy's Wristguards of Intolerable Gassery Mythic: Lord Jimmington III's Wrist Barriers of Utterly Insufferable Flatulence
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 4 жыл бұрын
lmao xD
@Egghead012
@Egghead012 4 жыл бұрын
meanwhile in classic, using examples: Broken zombie arm(grey low level weapon) Sharp Dirk (low level common) Heavy Mace (low level green) Cool Kid's Sword of awesome(low level blue) Battered Steel Blade(mid level gray) Razor Blade (mid level common) Chad's Axe of Stamina (mid level green) Truesteel Hammer (mid level blue) Fate (mid level epic) Shattered Flail (high level grey) Sharp Steel Axe (high level white) Redwood Bow (high level green) Volutuar (high level blue) Shala'render (high level epic) Vain, The Hammer of Judgement (high level legendary) Grievance, The Greatstaff of The Priestlord (high level legendary)
@delorne2776
@delorne2776 4 жыл бұрын
10/10
@ummthatminecraftguy
@ummthatminecraftguy 4 жыл бұрын
Retail: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts (Assforged). +180 Strength, +120 Stamina, +80 Gas, +100 Smell Classic: Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts. +20 Strength, +12 Agility. Equip: Chance on hit to let rip, dealing 180 nature damage and disorienting for 1 second.
@Self-replicating_whatnot
@Self-replicating_whatnot 4 жыл бұрын
If only. They don't change the name, even. It's just gets more numbery. I prefer classic system where you can learn the name of the item you want, it sounds cool and it matters. Maybe toned down a bit so you can have second and third options for every slot that are weaker but still viable.
@Dreleosh
@Dreleosh 4 жыл бұрын
"Make loot interesting again" Actiblizzard: So you mean add 10 more layers of EXCITING RNG and unessecary complexity, right?!!!
@92Dast
@92Dast 4 жыл бұрын
wtf you talking bout vanilla
@PhenomRom
@PhenomRom 4 жыл бұрын
@@92Dast in vanilla, you can decide you want a piece and then go dark that piece. In bfa, that is way harder. M+ drops like 1-2 pieces per dungeon.
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhenomRom Yet the gearing is still effectively the same, RNG or not. Does this piece have more +good on it? Yes? Then I'll take it.
@andrewteeter3522
@andrewteeter3522 4 жыл бұрын
@@cstgraphpads2091 rng will all way be there that not the problem never was more then one layer or rng is i mean classic what drops it and what it drop chances live same as classic but it can get 2 to 4 different rolls of better which mean ya end up all way wanting more and never feel like ya won and at some point ya stop trying and stop playing me and 90% of us who used 2 play wow feel this
@alexandermartinez1318
@alexandermartinez1318 4 жыл бұрын
Its there way of trying to get you to play the game longer by having to get the stars to align to get the right gear you want. Its stupid and fucked up. Shadowlands better fix this or I'm done. The expansion already looks underwhelming and recycled... So I dont have high hopes. Espcially since the story used to keep me playing if the game wasnt so good. But now it's trash, doesnt make sense, and is targeted for people with low IQs
@TheAwesomeCouch
@TheAwesomeCouch 4 жыл бұрын
"Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts" Love it.
@Unforgiven11
@Unforgiven11 4 жыл бұрын
+300 to Fart Crit
@JimmyVsTheWorld
@JimmyVsTheWorld 4 жыл бұрын
I approve of this
@Nagria2112
@Nagria2112 4 жыл бұрын
i actually try to find that item on wowhead =(
@michaels5217
@michaels5217 4 жыл бұрын
My wife has these bracers. I've tried everything to get her to equip something else, to no avail. Please send help.
@jamiepruner2987
@jamiepruner2987 4 жыл бұрын
@@ricardolionheart4920 Embrace your lady's farts! It means she cares about you, because she doesn't do it around anyone else.
@msarchive6247
@msarchive6247 4 жыл бұрын
Powerball: Madseason you just won 100 million. How do you feel? Madseason: I'm alright
@Ninja40K
@Ninja40K 4 жыл бұрын
I see.
@Avrelivs_Gold
@Avrelivs_Gold 4 жыл бұрын
yeah it's hard to watch his videos he needs to hire some e-girl
@weatherman2045
@weatherman2045 4 жыл бұрын
I love that he's like that, can't stand the KZfaqrs that are loud and obnoxious
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 4 жыл бұрын
@@weatherman2045 same
@mobywv
@mobywv 4 жыл бұрын
BRE Drops. Madseason: OK
@FlamingWalrus1
@FlamingWalrus1 4 жыл бұрын
When Blizzard is ready to revamp retail, I hope the main raid will consist of finally killing Sylvanas as a Raid boss. That would be a strait up spiritual experience for most players.
@MatthewTheUntitled
@MatthewTheUntitled 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, kinda like dc did with jason todd
@siradmin6791
@siradmin6791 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I nut from the thought of killing sylvannas. Fucking king anduin had so many chance but noo we have to put her in prison
@highpower1191
@highpower1191 4 жыл бұрын
I hope she doesnt die and becomes a recurring villian for while before we take the bitch out. I see some potentially good content
@siradmin6791
@siradmin6791 3 жыл бұрын
@@highpower1191 bruh she's gonna be the main villain for 2 expansions now. She had a fuck ton of plot armor. Anduin had atleast a million tjens to kill her
@rippspeck
@rippspeck 3 жыл бұрын
stwong woman bad :(
@rosssettles7025
@rosssettles7025 4 жыл бұрын
To hell with Dailys. My gaming time shouldn't feel like a second job.
@Roman470
@Roman470 4 жыл бұрын
i actually fucking hate dailys. im fine with world quests and assaults. but having to do the same shit for 2 months straight everyday non stop on 3 different toons is actual hell. such a waste of time and provides no context or entertainment to the game. fuck dailys
@Roman470
@Roman470 4 жыл бұрын
@Not My real name um.. theres no option really..? dailies = coalacent visions= vape upgrade = stat upgrade + corruption upgrade and also exalted rep which gives a rune, and dailis also unlock essences and mounts and transmog and achieves. o boy.
@zsoltsiro1310
@zsoltsiro1310 4 жыл бұрын
@Not My real name dumbass
@rydersmith2787
@rydersmith2787 4 жыл бұрын
Its 7 dailies that barely take any time to do...
@UnCuervoEnMedicina
@UnCuervoEnMedicina 4 жыл бұрын
Word
@ikuep
@ikuep 4 жыл бұрын
"Every. Single. Piece."
@Joekary5
@Joekary5 4 жыл бұрын
cut of death
@Ranpuma1
@Ranpuma1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Joekary5 Azshara Razorcoral, Azshara font of Power. Physic shredder.
@mdokane
@mdokane 4 жыл бұрын
Cut of Death, mechagon If Then rings & fire mage bracers, fist weapon from underrot, staff from temple, all the corrupted weapons in ny'alotha, but let's not let those get in the way of his point about how interesting int and str on the same piece of gear are in classic.
@powerovercorrupt
@powerovercorrupt 4 жыл бұрын
@@mdokane Yeah he really missed the mark on that one. Gettiku is BiS for any class that can use 2Handers, the cloth braces are super BiS for fire mages, the if-thens are BiS for different classes depending on which combination, etc. Hell this is closest to Vanilla item design than it ever was in an expansion, if I'm not mistaken.
@baldie80
@baldie80 4 жыл бұрын
@@powerovercorrupt I can see what you're saying about end game gear, in the last tier of the expansion, but even so the gear treadmill has increased its' incline by1000% or more since Pandaria or Warlords. In those expansions there was a hard "BIS" for almost every gear slot (usually tier pieces) and while that rotated with each new raid tier you at least knew when you had reached peak gearing. The point Mads is trying to make is that while there is a mind-numbing number of potential activities available to pursue "advancement", almost all the gear available is 1000 versions of the same thing. Sure there are a few exceptions out there if you really know where to look and want to put in the effort to focus on that content, but layering RNG on top of RNG to try to get an upgrade to already pretty good gear means that almost nothing is ever going to give a sense of satisfaction or accomplishment. No gear stands out because almost all gear is the same-smelling rose but by a plethora of names. At the end of the day though, gearing is only one of the problems facing the game going forward. Too much of BfA felt like the busywork of making valentines holders for your desk in elementary school (or most other kids holiday craft projects - hand-tracing turkeys, egg carton Christmas trees, etc.). Sure it keeps you busy enough to prevent total boredom, but "not being bored" is not the same thing as actually having fun. Minesweeper or Solitaire can keep you "not bored" but after a while the repetition is mind-numbing, and that's what BfA feels like to me at this point. Before 8.3 the variety of playing my 3 different main classes (Paladin, Mage & DK) kept me going, but the Cloak system added so many more "mandatory" grinds that I just couldn't force myself to do it all multiplied by a factor of three.
@dexter7782
@dexter7782 4 жыл бұрын
when you reach a point where the players take it into their own hands to make detailed videos on how to fix the game, u know something is up
@CaptainGrim
@CaptainGrim 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful, madeseason *sobs* thank you. Also bring back pvp vendors and pvp gear
@MrDombosfi
@MrDombosfi 3 жыл бұрын
Happening
@madseasonshow
@madseasonshow 4 жыл бұрын
This started off as a wishlist for Shadowlands(alpha soon it seems?). I think that these changes would be good in general though, regardless of the expansion! As always, my $0.02.
@tigerisak9037
@tigerisak9037 4 жыл бұрын
What happend to ur voice?
@mt.averest9750
@mt.averest9750 4 жыл бұрын
@@tigerisak9037 ChadSeason Happened
@tigerisak9037
@tigerisak9037 4 жыл бұрын
@@mt.averest9750 oh he is mad like a chad like wadd and dat is facts
@sarttee
@sarttee 4 жыл бұрын
wow retail is a job with no rewards
@xxispade
@xxispade 4 жыл бұрын
"So if there's no want for them, and you claim there's no need for them, may I ask why they exist?" Easily my favorite wow youtube channel/creator.
@Reckoninng
@Reckoninng 4 жыл бұрын
i never realised how bland the itemisation was untill now lol every single piece literally the same
@TheRayny
@TheRayny 4 жыл бұрын
to be honest, it was always bland. I mean, wow classic had some quirkier ones, but they were mostly ignored. Others had crappy stats, and it's easy tot ell which one is the most useful. besides, BFA has lots of quirky items as well, and lots of decisions with it - it's only that it's not always something good - see corruptions.
@dubious6718
@dubious6718 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRayny Why make more raids, when they can just make random/better stats on same item
@TheRayny
@TheRayny 4 жыл бұрын
@@dubious6718 because that's kinda the engine of the game? it's number crunch at its core. I mean, i understand if you dislike it, but that't really it. The core loop of the game is new challenges -> more powerful items, and there's much you can do with special effect on gear. Besides, when we talk about memorable gear we talk only about a couple of things really - have you ever seen a good pair of bracers, boots or what else that wasn't just stat stacking, even on vanilla? and that weren't absolute trash as well. Oh wai,t i have some in mind now: legion legendaries and corrupted items. And while the second got different reactions about it, the first one was good, but also the first one if done again would end up being almost the carbon copy of the first generation with few additions.
@huultah
@huultah 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the moment I tried a legion server and noticed my paladin only had haste mastery and crit (if i remember propperly) as possible stats, it felt...horrible, i went to check a tanking guide and it said haste...haste...for tank. So i tried demon hunter and altough it was fun, i eventually went back to private since no matter what i got it always felt so so weak, indifferent.
@TheRayny
@TheRayny 4 жыл бұрын
@@huultah you mean you preferredolder different stats? That's a crude but effective look at stats - every class and spec has some to prioritarize ( save exceptions ) but they benefit from all of them for their role - crit chance increases parry for example, mastery for warriors increases block in protection. That looks plain, but it's a huge step up from older stat versions - i mean, look at classic, as healer you have ONE stat to worry about which is healing power, and as a dps you have only hit chance/rating to worry outside the other stat to max out, save some crit shenanigans that can be managed out only by simming. Tank stats like dodge, parry and block are ties to mastery and crit basically, they only differenc eis that the sape piece of gear can be useful to dps as well. Plus, there is versatility. That said yeah, i agree they aren't amazing. HAste specifically does too much.
@somedude1068
@somedude1068 4 жыл бұрын
"No bro i will never work in company im not some stupid wagie bruh" *Proceeds to do 9hrs of dailys*
@vtr0104
@vtr0104 4 жыл бұрын
And you don't even get money for it, you're paying Blizzard instead..... I've been working in corporate for 12 years, and been playing WoW since Classic. WoW used to be the game I came back to after a day's work, for relaxing and exploring and meeting random people to talk to or help on Quests. But now I'm literally afraid to Login because your entire map is assaulted by Markers and things to do. It feels worse and even more of a grind than an actual job (and I work in basically SW tech-support), it's never-ending. I kid you not, I've started playing World of Warships instead, and even that thing doesn't feel as bad, even though it's the gaming equivalent of a pyramid scheme made by some Russians...
@vtr0104
@vtr0104 4 жыл бұрын
@Maintenance Renegade Yeah, that's another thing too. You mentioned the Fishing Pole, and I just remembered doing the Kalu'ak quests to obtain it back then. The Kalu'ak themselves were fun and even doing the dailies meant you were encouraged to ride between their settlements on the Turtles. And at the end, the Fishing Pole was cool and let you breathe underwater, but it wasn't like it was absolutely needed to play the game... It was just something fun. Unlike now where you have to do dailies in Nazj'atar or Mechagon just to unlock Flying. It's the only reason I still force myself to play, and even then, when I think why I'm doing it, it's to have less travel time between even more dailies. What the hell, man :( .....
@deroestheknight7853
@deroestheknight7853 3 жыл бұрын
@Maintenance Renegade Honestly, Once Cata hit outside of the confusing story line (at least for me) it felt like they were starting to slip with the game kinda like having two hands hanging from a ledge. Then mist came and as much as I loved it thematically from the small bits of end game content of it I saw it seemed like they were subtly slipping in what made WoD so horrifying for a lot of players (mainly timeless isles and the token system is what I'm thinking of). WoD was the nail home that made the 1st hand slip off. Thankful Legion was good enough that the other held on as hard as it could. but with how much BfA feels like it was still in it's beta phase with all it's RNG and tweaking even now that hand is starting to slip. We can only hope Shadowlands will give it a better grip.
@GegnatzTheReal
@GegnatzTheReal 4 жыл бұрын
Just bring back the Pvp system from MoP or WoD, where honor was a currency That you get simply From playing bgs (you didnt have to win to get Honor). So if you are pvp player you just had to Play bgs, get honor and Buy all blue items you could get, and when u are full equiped with honor equip you start to do Arenas or RBGs for conquest points to buy the epic sets and weapons. Its all i want for shadowlands. So you dont have to do endless pve content to get an alt equipped.
@Tokenutha
@Tokenutha 4 жыл бұрын
This is what got me hooked , I could play bgs like the doodoo player I am but eventually it made the PvP gear obtainable for me
@superjive8282
@superjive8282 4 жыл бұрын
Honor wasn't a currency for pvp in WoD, it was the honorable medallions. I agree tho, the pvp from MoP was easily the best with the honor and conquest as currency to actually buy gear and pvp resil/power on pieces of gear. Right now i feel like you have to do pve to do pvp properly or else you'll have no health no procs and no damage
@IndigoOverdrive
@IndigoOverdrive 4 жыл бұрын
@@superjive8282 I feel Cata did this PvP system better, mostly due to having Tol Barad.
@robinspanier7017
@robinspanier7017 3 жыл бұрын
yeah it was so amazing.. i hope these times will return someday. fuck the busywork, atleast for pvp man.. no pvp guy in their right mind would ever like grind for an edge because the fun part is in getting that damn title so you can .. uhm.. brag about it on your date or sth
@Mageballer43
@Mageballer43 3 жыл бұрын
Huh. Well, seems like this turned out well for you.
@suzukistrange9163
@suzukistrange9163 4 жыл бұрын
I hope the Devs see this video! i have played for 12-14 years now but haven't had a solid sub for years now, just a few months here and there. looking forward to new content tho.
@dubious6718
@dubious6718 4 жыл бұрын
My last proper Retail raid was in Cata, I have played up to Legion, but then with raid finder Have played since US Beta Now I play Classic, doubt I'll ever play retail again, for the reasons in this video, its just the same shit over and over
@kluasvt828
@kluasvt828 4 жыл бұрын
@@dubious6718 Have played since late Wrath, and Legion was the most fun raiding experince i had. Antorus was insanely fun
@MarrisaPlays
@MarrisaPlays 4 жыл бұрын
agreed i have bouts of play time sometimes it revolves around a raid team which is fine but mostly like now im just on to finish some random goal i set myself (unlocking allied races at the moment) and then i stare at the game for a while turn it off and spend the next month playing other more fun games. Im 100% sure they have gotten a decent sum of money out of me because i was so bored i became to lazy to turn off the sub
@hezonJArecide
@hezonJArecide 4 жыл бұрын
Started playing in late vanilla. Raided pretty hardcore in BC, but enjoyed Wrath the most. Even WoD was more enjoyable than Legion&BFA (Mainly because the classes felt more like the classes I always played)
@NoobGamer-di1dw
@NoobGamer-di1dw 4 жыл бұрын
kluasVT Legion is the 2nd best expansion they’ve ever done imo right after Wrath. MoP was really good too even though people hated on it cause of pandas lol
@iowkey_9339
@iowkey_9339 4 жыл бұрын
One of the things I remember best from classic is how travelling, while long, slow and tedious -was the thing that gave me the best memories. You would have to be alert so that you didn't die from high lvl mobs, cause the graveyard could set you back 10 minutes easily. That part sucked, but it's a sacrifice I was willing to pay. Since everyone was travelling on ground you had an increased odds of meeting friendly players. And when you're walking for maybe 30 minutes to the next zone, meeting someone and talking to them, having fun with them really lessened the torment of the journey. Those interactions made the game feel alive. And then you also had an increased chance of meeting bad guys, especially in places like STV, or places for popular dungeons/raids. This gave the game a feeling of being populated, interactive and dangerous. Some people complain that "these high levels are ganking me and its ruining the game". But really, those were the fun parts. The parts where you ran for your life to escape death.. or where you banded together with other people to return the favor. Like travelling to a dungeon for 30 minutes with your party gave you a chance to make friends. Sure, the bad parts happened where the tank DC'd or quit the group, and then the party disbanded because it would take an hour to get back there. But rewards dont come without sacrifice. Friends, community, interactions with other people. That's what made this game so great for me. That, and the feeling of getting the loot I wanted, after farming a boss for like a week.
@zack4209
@zack4209 4 жыл бұрын
coming across random players needing help is what i missed most.
@ChaiKarl
@ChaiKarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@zack4209 that was an experience I grew very fond of in classic. I would be getting fucked up and people would come and help me, it was amazing. Wed end up having the same quest and them work together. It was a great experience.
@zack4209
@zack4209 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaiKarl sadly it’s a mechanic that online games have gotten rid of. Everyone’s a walking army now and it’s sad
@ChaiKarl
@ChaiKarl 3 жыл бұрын
@@zack4209 for real dude. I am disappointed by every game I play now because it lacks the teamwork and simplicity of shared effort for one goal.
@genericcomment3950
@genericcomment3950 4 жыл бұрын
I miss logging on any character I feel like playing, and then pvp cause it's what I enjoy, gaining new pvp gear from the rewards of pvp. Now I can't just do that, instead I have to grind AP and then reps to unlock essences and then again I should probably try to get good corruption gear plus level my cloak. But by the time I'm done doing that, on one character, I just couldn't be bothered, let alone the thought of doing it on another character.
@zillux6461
@zillux6461 4 жыл бұрын
they added account wide essences
@genericcomment3950
@genericcomment3950 4 жыл бұрын
@@zillux6461 They added a means to force everyone to grind for an already unlocked rank 3 essence, they deliberately went out of their way to add another grind to the game to herd people back when they could of just flicked a twitch and enable proper account-wide essences. Like it is better then nothing, but say if you haven't unlocked essences that healers or tanks can only gain then you have to do the grind of a healer or tank to gain them.
@TheLumberjack1987
@TheLumberjack1987 4 жыл бұрын
@@genericcomment3950 that's something I've thought also for a while now. takes me roughly an hour to do uldum/vale dailies + xpan dailies. would be fun if I could just choose to do whatever I want without this constant feeling of missing out.
@eddyke93
@eddyke93 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a pvp guy, and im the saddest person ever coming back to this game and see how different and garbage it is now... imagine this, i just wanted to play arena with my friends, and instead, i got that crap that madseasonshow mentioned, and not only that, if i wanted to do arenas, or any other PVP I need to go to dungeon... I was like, Excuse me? IF i wanna go pvp i must gear from pve? Where is the logic in that? PVE and PVP is different for a reason, I dont want to do dungeons because its boring for me, why i have to do that if i wanted to play arenas and pvp. In the back days, if i was a pvp guy, i play pvp. And thats it folks. Not to mention how fcked up the situation with this corruption things in the pvp.... I think i will unsub from wow, at this moment PVP is unplayable
@FuzzyDreamin
@FuzzyDreamin 3 жыл бұрын
They killed pvp starting in MoP and just ground it into the dirt since... I used to pvp a lot but I haven't touched it in years because you have to do so much for any reward...
@Argidisparken
@Argidisparken 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you're my favorite WoW youtuber. You're so genuine and honest and you somehow make a monotone voice sound fun and interesting to listen to. Keep this going, man. Power to you!
@wills.1978
@wills.1978 4 жыл бұрын
i agree. madseason is the shiz
@TeaGarrison
@TeaGarrison 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, MadSeason. You give a voice to those of us who've loved this game since the old days and have sadly had to watch it fall to such a low point. I sincerely hope Blizzard is listening because every point you've raised is solid and agreed upon by the silent majority of past WoW players. If anyone disagrees, let me just point out that there is a reason millions of players came back to play classic whereas current WoW has under a million players rn (according to third parties).
@elitebooger8208
@elitebooger8208 4 жыл бұрын
Classic wow content gets cleared in 43 minutes lol. It is more of a joke than live outside of leveling.
@TeaGarrison
@TeaGarrison 4 жыл бұрын
@@elitebooger8208 That's not the point?
@baldie80
@baldie80 4 жыл бұрын
@@elitebooger8208 That's because the strategies being used in Classic have been perfected over 15 years by the people playing on Private Servers, not because the content is easy. In Classic pushing buttons mattered. Levelling mattered (and took time and skill). Positioning and pulling mattered. Gear mattered and was unique. Doing things often required other people, and finding (and befriending) those other people made the Massively Multiplayer part actually true (and made it matter). If it's not your cup of tea that's fine, we aren't going to make you play it. On the other hand, simply dismissing Classic entirely just because a tiny subset of players (who have been essentially playing the same content non-stop for 15 years) have perfected the art of clearing Classic's Raids is not a fair examination of anything except your own bias.
@mattdayne2585
@mattdayne2585 4 жыл бұрын
@@elitebooger8208 Yet, joining a pug on your alt to do MC and being stuck in MC for 3-4 hours wiping on Domo or Rag happens too. Imagine wiping in LFR lol. g O b aC K t O r E tA i L
@elitebooger8208
@elitebooger8208 4 жыл бұрын
@@mattdayne2585 dude I mythic raid and am 2k+. I would not struggle with mc because its a joke.
@mylifeasCrysta
@mylifeasCrysta 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the magic Blizzard Entertainment games originally had.
@meta1152
@meta1152 4 жыл бұрын
Back when it was only Blizzard and not ActiBlizzard
@santiagolago9989
@santiagolago9989 4 жыл бұрын
It was probably because you were 15 years old. Games will never be as magic and amazing as they were when we were teenagers/children
@accless510
@accless510 4 жыл бұрын
@@santiagolago9989 nah ive been playing wotlk and BC private servers for almost a decade now, the game never gets old. the system was simple, addictive, rewarding and challenging. it is not nostalgia.
@mylifeasCrysta
@mylifeasCrysta 4 жыл бұрын
I was 12 and Diablo had just come out. I thought it was the coolest game. Then I played Starcraft & Vanilla ❤️ Best gaming memories😩
@bastion5686
@bastion5686 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, back it used to be about making games fun for the player, now it's all /time played, and making 90% of content be daily chores. No new dungeon content and literally unless you play one or two of 100 dead alliance servers not named Stormrage you can't raid as alliance. People are forming 25000 population hyperclusters just to have people to play, while the non cross guild makes raiding dead on 95% of servers where even my top 5 alliance pop server now only has a single mythic raiding guild that has all 20/20 raiders and benched me despite a 90% parse because even though i was geared.. i wasn't unemployed as the other 10 coronavirus applicants were who could have a 90% raid attendance raid. Not to say it could see the point but it feels terrible when they refuse to put on mythic flex raiding caring about "INTEGRITY OF BALANCE" when they literally DESPAWNED THE FINAL BOSS of last world first race and killed bosses for the #2 guild so it wouldn't be 8/12 M Method after their 4th world first vs 12/12M Limit getting thirsty and pushing. Who cares about the "INTEGRITY OF THE GAME" if the game design is purposely dead to 50% of the population with no population fix, or cross server grouping for alliance. World first races sacrifice game design with raiders who LITERALLY, LITERALLY use unemployment benefits to play are the catered target content. Don't have 25-30 hours a week to raid non stop? Where does 90% of new content development go. not on content the 90% plays. I get that ion was a raid lead, but the amount of focus that raids that barely anyone can actually physically play at mythic while m+ is neglected with no new dungeons is droll. I wish they'd have more dungeons or introduce new dungeons with Raid patches. Forget 12/12 raid bosses, 0 dungeons. I want 1-2 new dungeons a patch with new loot. Maybe a weekly 5 man challenge dungeon to double the loot in your weekly cache.
@Coinkidoink
@Coinkidoink 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought there would come a day where i would leave my 12+ level 110 characters, vast amount of mounts, toys and transmog behind when we were in Legion, but god damn. Here we are. What i miss the most are the class orderhalls and the generally good questlines they came with
@adrianzamfir2663
@adrianzamfir2663 4 жыл бұрын
Its ok bro, do something better with your time.
@IDDQDXW
@IDDQDXW 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes i wanna wake up in the 2008 again, dying to log in and level up my warrior in the new northrend zone. So pumped to reach 80 and start to gear up for naxxramas, that's a feeling this game's never gonna give me again. You really nailed the points about gear, gear in todays wow feels completely dull and has been for a couple of expansions now. I remember a time when i got so pissed cus i lost a 2H, or a trinket from the new raid. If i'd lose something today, i wouldn't even care because it's just a bunch of 1's and 0's. It's really sad when blizzard let go of what little that was left of it (tier sets) in BFA.
@Alsund
@Alsund 4 жыл бұрын
I loved Wotlk so much.. - Great economy, mining made my gold, and farming eternal fire's. - Finally getting that Deathbringers Will, that always got ninjalooted was an awesome feeling, also Bryntroll 2h Axe. - I knew I couldn't get into any raids on my new level 80 without going through Dungeons to farm BiS pre-raiding gear, then go for a tier 7 raid, farm it > Then tier 9 etc. - Loved the token-upgrade. First I needed to get the T7 gloves, then upgrade those by adding a token from a higher difficulty to make the better version. - Rare-mob grinding that resulted in mounts wad awesome. - Wintergrasp, genious ❤
@IDDQDXW
@IDDQDXW 4 жыл бұрын
@@Alsund dude that is so nostalgic..It's sad that back then we had "less" daily/weekly things to keep track of, but we logged in and played all day long nonetheless. I could spend a whole night just mining titanium in wintergrasp, fighting against the bots flying under the map haha. I also miss the valor thingies u got from dungeons and raids that you could use to buy gear with. People who didn't play wow back in the day really missed out
@ayyubabdullah9289
@ayyubabdullah9289 4 жыл бұрын
Lefortunez private servers with WotLK now are very good.
@PennyAfNorberg
@PennyAfNorberg 4 жыл бұрын
I took 3 days off work then.
@shanwn
@shanwn 4 жыл бұрын
"Every single piece" Thats the most emotion i get from this guy.
@binesy
@binesy 4 жыл бұрын
I would add make professions interesting and worth investing time in again.
@baldie80
@baldie80 4 жыл бұрын
Or find something to replace them with, honestly. I agree they have been largely useless for several expansions now, but mostly because the gear you can make is obsolete before you can even make it. So much gear drops, and so frequently, with World Quest rewards scaling based on your ilevel, that the only possible use is for enchanting materials.
@cajintexas7751
@cajintexas7751 4 жыл бұрын
This.
@sherlockscones
@sherlockscones 4 жыл бұрын
As a new player this is what i have to say about wow Classic: - leveling is way to slow but fun(most of the time) - nice community aspect - items feel impactful Bfa/Retail: - leveling shouldnt be called leveling but the longest and most boring tutorial in gaming - way to much wierd shit you have to do like wtf is even going on - gear feels like upgrading from a q-tip to a tooth brush - collecting aspect is cool such as mounts and stuff - really like transmog - pretty much everything that doesnt evolve playing the game is cool
@XRemARx
@XRemARx 4 жыл бұрын
yess
@PregnantOrc
@PregnantOrc 4 жыл бұрын
Calling BfA/retail leveling a tutorial is very generous of you considering how it doesn't teach you anything beyond movement and camera controls.
@howldread
@howldread 4 жыл бұрын
I actually switched to Argent Dawn because I felt lonely on my server, even with a guild. I realized that RP and community is the real meta and even though I raid Heroic and do +10-15 mythic keystones, at the end of the day its all because I can chill with strangers in the Inn.
@sherlockscones
@sherlockscones 4 жыл бұрын
@@PregnantOrc LOL it's sad how accurate that is.
@elitebooger8208
@elitebooger8208 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree making all dungeons scale with level makes itemization so much more fun than classic. I think classic leveling is fun in it's own way but so is live wows dungeon spam. Is addictive an awesome. Every item is now good within a certain level range and that's fucking great.
@js-ib4bb
@js-ib4bb 4 жыл бұрын
I can sleep a little easier after listening to this, as if I was just told some great story by an amazing narrator
@TheUnknow
@TheUnknow 4 жыл бұрын
Now i want a "Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts" as a joke item made! XD
@Zerohopexe
@Zerohopexe 4 жыл бұрын
On Equip Effect: "Cause a brown wraith to appear periodically and cause people around you and ./fear"
@qunt100
@qunt100 4 жыл бұрын
That and a madseasonshow npc of somekind. He speaks in monotone.
@jeremyguzman7936
@jeremyguzman7936 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I enjoy about BFA is its gorgeous zones and beautiful music.
@CosmicCleric
@CosmicCleric 4 жыл бұрын
The art and music people always do a great job.
@MalonzeProductionsGaming
@MalonzeProductionsGaming 4 жыл бұрын
yep. the only good things about WoW.. even WoD has great music. i still listen tot he music of wow.
@wisniamw
@wisniamw 4 жыл бұрын
ye, imo lvling is pretty good in bfa, I personally love drustvar
@gaurok
@gaurok 4 жыл бұрын
@@CosmicCleric and that's may be because Samwise Didier is a senior art director at Blizzard Entertainment. Sadly he's the only one left of the good old "core" Blizzard staff. Let's think about the Shadowlands cinematic: the whole "Sylvanas easily defeats the Lich King" is bullshit, but the cinematics is done well. Art and music are the only good thing left in Blizzard games now
@Zerohopexe
@Zerohopexe 4 жыл бұрын
@@wisniamw Exactly. The leveling experience is great, it just goes to crap once you hit max level
@iyankov96
@iyankov96 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope Blizzard watches this video. These are literally THE REASONS why I am no longer playing the game. Fix them and I'll sub to modern WoW again.
@alexandermartinez1318
@alexandermartinez1318 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! In your wildest dreams! Theyre long gone. Only self serving idiots that only care to milk the cow til it's dead
@JAPi2314
@JAPi2314 4 жыл бұрын
No thanks, I'd rather do dailies than sit in IF wondering what do in the game after raid night..
@Schroedingers_Bad_Kittey
@Schroedingers_Bad_Kittey 4 жыл бұрын
I was exhausted from BFA and therefore switched to Classic. Now four weeks have passed and I'm level 54. I enjoyed every minute. I was finally happy to log in again. Day after day.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 4 жыл бұрын
@PepoHappy MMOs probably aren't for you friend
@chocolategoose7350
@chocolategoose7350 4 жыл бұрын
@PepoHappy Thats... kinda what mmos do. You grind dungeons and raids for gear. Try a different genre and see if you like it better.
@sparriz
@sparriz 4 жыл бұрын
All is now ruled by the almighty "engagement". Mom I miss fun. Shut up billy Engagement is what you get now sit down and play!
@KanedaSyndrome
@KanedaSyndrome 4 жыл бұрын
I hate engagement mechanics - it's why I quit all modern mmos
@kyotheman69
@kyotheman69 4 жыл бұрын
then i rather play in FF14 where the game is actually fun and lets you do other stuff then do shitty dailys, get power and end gear
@tomebundalevski1872
@tomebundalevski1872 4 жыл бұрын
@Cthulhu I too despise the current CORPORATE strategies. It doesn't belong in a game and it never will. Today's "systems" are designed to be something you would see/expect from a casino. If I want to gamble, anything, I'd go to a fucking casino, not buy a fucking game.
@ndr2q
@ndr2q 4 жыл бұрын
I think they use “engagement” as a substitute for fun, because it’s objective, measurable, quantifiable, and trackable. But it’s really not a good substitute for fun. Which leads to all this infinite treadmill shit. Perfect example: I bought and played DOOM Eternal last week, and it took me only about
@tomebundalevski1872
@tomebundalevski1872 4 жыл бұрын
@@ndr2q You said it in English better than me. There you go, people. When you go corporate, you go broke. Because the ONLY fucking thing they care is that fucking word, "engagement". Pretty fucking sick of hearing that from the same guy that runs the same game for over 8 years (Ion). Not trashing the guy and blaming it all on him, but someone's gotta say it...
@StereoMadness_Bjøn_Jævla_Pikk
@StereoMadness_Bjøn_Jævla_Pikk 4 жыл бұрын
Hay Madseasonshow I just wanted to say thank you for bringing entertainment because it really helped me through a tough time and I just wanted to say thank you.
@madseasonshow
@madseasonshow 4 жыл бұрын
Well, making them has gotten me through some tough times as well. It's my pleasure man! Glad they have helped you out that way.
@SolDizZo
@SolDizZo 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same
@13Krentebol
@13Krentebol 4 жыл бұрын
thx
@j.franklin21
@j.franklin21 4 жыл бұрын
@@madseasonshow Woah! You used a "!" (Joking)
@jasonwisniewski6880
@jasonwisniewski6880 4 жыл бұрын
You know a small, small, small part of me was like: "man, what if I did go back to Retail?" But instead of working on my warrior, work on my rogue - since I'm enjoying it on Classic. But as soon as I saw the daily list, and all the things that I would have to do to catch up, I literally said: "Fuck that." I would rather make a new character from scratch on Classic (which I have, AND I'm enjoying it) than to come back to BFA on my already-existing 120 to try and catch up to be PvP/PvE ready. There's so many things too do, in fact - TOO many things to do - in Retail. The sheer amount of stretched content is overwhelming. Classic has a set amount of content that I am more than comfortable with repeating over and over again. Because as simple or reduced as Classic content is, it's actually fun to do. I enjoy running Scholomance / Stratholome / BRD / Dire Maul (Less so, because I don't like the aesthetic but that's a personal gripe) multiple times. But, when I last played a dungeon in BFA, I was exhausted and bored before I even finished it.
@Idontlikeanyoneanywhere
@Idontlikeanyoneanywhere 4 жыл бұрын
Summed it up for me. They tried a make it friendly to the new or returning player, but to this long time returning player, i was turned off. Classic is fun, i log on and there's stuff i can do, because i want to do them. Not because i need to do a arbitrary task for a certain reward. BfA just throws a bunch of dailies at you hoping one would stick.
@jasonwisniewski6880
@jasonwisniewski6880 4 жыл бұрын
@@Idontlikeanyoneanywhere Amen bro.
@ambassador1449
@ambassador1449 4 жыл бұрын
Preach the truth! I've been so overwhelmed trying to get back into current, I have signed on 5-6 diffrent times as of late, only to sign out 5-10min later, overwhelmed with the chores I would need to do, to get flying, better gear, allied races, even just to catch up with current content, I really hope this video catches blizzards eye, thank you for making this!
@ryankoopacanada
@ryankoopacanada 4 жыл бұрын
I have one, “Enough pathfinder achievements”.
@nevr9281
@nevr9281 4 жыл бұрын
i mean i get that they want people to see the zones in their first playthrough but i feel like completing the questline should be enough fuck the rep grinds and shit
@mates9816
@mates9816 4 жыл бұрын
@@nevr9281 Or just make the rep grind easier for example just add tabards like in wrath or cata where if you would wear one faction tabard in dungeon you would get rep for that faction.
@Greenleaf_
@Greenleaf_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@mates9816 I like the current large grind for reps, but I think the rewards should be cosmetic things like mounts and stuff so it still feels like something worth doing, but not necessary. Pathfinder and Allied races or anything effecting gameplay should require only Honored or maybe Revered.
@arcamean785
@arcamean785 4 жыл бұрын
When I was thinking of pre-ordering Warlords of Draenor I did so on the assumption that flying was going to be added after a short 2-3 month wait and though I didn't like It I decided that it was ok. Then later turned into even later which turned into "We won't be adding it because we never designed it for flying" ONLY to add it eventually because subs tanked. Even then when we got it it came with a load of bullshit like finding "treasures" and was such a pain I didn't get it until after I'd gotten legion pathfinder.
@shadowlife15
@shadowlife15 4 жыл бұрын
@@nevr9281 After you have quested through a zone, you have seen it enough, pathfinder should just be the questlines in each zone and honored with each rep, and explorer, nothing else.
@WikiHL
@WikiHL 4 жыл бұрын
Can't watch the video, gotta do my 16 dailies (doesn't include old content farm)
@mattgenaro
@mattgenaro 4 жыл бұрын
It's really sad going from "Oh boy, can't wait to see how awesome this expansion is going to be!" to "I just hope they don't fuck all the way up, 'cus I'm done". Last coin for Shadowlands.
@VeryProfessionalGamer
@VeryProfessionalGamer 2 жыл бұрын
18:33 - aged like fine milk
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 4 жыл бұрын
The "stat overhaul" system in general was a big mistake. Sure there were some streamlining problems with the old stat system, but what they did wasn't to fix it, but to throw all of the really cool concepts out with the faults, and replace it all with an incredibly dull and uninteresting stat system.
@zolikoff
@zolikoff 4 жыл бұрын
And the talent system too. Personally I think the current talent system where you have to choose between abilities is really good, but not as a replacement for the talent system! They should've kept the original talent system, and added this ability choice ON TOP. Complexity is good for an RPG. It's half of what makes the game. There has to be a lot of shit you can get lost in. Sure it will always caused problems that require constant hotfixing, but so does the current status quo too. Except it's much more boring and sterile.
@FSGoingStraight
@FSGoingStraight 4 жыл бұрын
I Miss Multistrike
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 4 жыл бұрын
Except the stats have barely changed lol.
@cstgraphpads2091
@cstgraphpads2091 4 жыл бұрын
@@zolikoff The current status quo doesn't require a bunch of hotfixing though. Adding pointless complexity just drives away people. Even then, can you honestly say "Oh look, I got another point for 1% crit" is "complexity"? It isn't "complexity", it's minutae.
@NoobGamer-di1dw
@NoobGamer-di1dw 4 жыл бұрын
zolikoff Idk the talent system from the old days wasn’t good either it’s all cookie cutter too depending on what you’re doing. Always gonna be a build that’s better than others still no freedom of choice I’d say the talents every 15 levels still aren’t as restricted. It does feel better getting something every level though that’s what makes them feel better to people you feel like you’re getting stronger even though the impact isn’t that big.
@gabrielpaulino9701
@gabrielpaulino9701 4 жыл бұрын
Bonus Idea: Make Sylvannas an interesting anti-hero again who lives to save her people instead of a villain who wants a lot of deaths to be super powerful.
@lynxerz
@lynxerz 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be enough to save the game but sure, drive her story to at least make sense... The one we're currently getting is plagued by completely braindead storytelling unfortunately
@poorpriest4549
@poorpriest4549 4 жыл бұрын
Warcraft storytelling is brainded since warcraft 1, so it's not gonna change anything.
@jmanjman2685
@jmanjman2685 4 жыл бұрын
Moonis sylvannas always sucked as a character
@lynxerz
@lynxerz 4 жыл бұрын
@@jmanjman2685 doesn't mean she needs to keep on suckin after 20 years (or does she ;D)
@Zerohopexe
@Zerohopexe 4 жыл бұрын
Also make an Alliance character a villian for a change. Let Tyrande become corrupt and become a raid boss
@cadwar
@cadwar 4 жыл бұрын
"It's like 300 slot machine handles that reset daily" Perfect analogy lol
@hondaaccord-cd8bb
@hondaaccord-cd8bb 4 жыл бұрын
I know absolutely nothing about WOW but this was in my recommended
@iambarnowl
@iambarnowl 4 жыл бұрын
the thought of picking up retail again just exhausts me
@RealmsofPixelation
@RealmsofPixelation 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even mess with the dailies in Uldum or the Vale. I just do the objective and gtfo. I don't raid or do mythic dungeons at all, as I'm a solo player. I do enjoy the timewalking dungeons though.
@justan324
@justan324 4 жыл бұрын
same here though i do raiding and mythic dungeons. mostly now im helping my guildies get better
@NoobGamer-di1dw
@NoobGamer-di1dw 4 жыл бұрын
moonknight79 Yeah, but honestly that’s ok unless you’re in the top 1% of the player base you don’t even need to mindlessly grind. The game isn’t in a good state but I think too many take it to seriously.
@nagybotond713
@nagybotond713 4 жыл бұрын
How can you be a solo player in an mmorpg? Like, what do you do? How do you progress your character? Genuine question, because I can't wrap my head around it.
@elitebooger8208
@elitebooger8208 4 жыл бұрын
@@nagybotond713 You can do dailies, battlegrounds, and other stuff. Also playing alts helps.
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 4 жыл бұрын
@@elitebooger8208 do dailes and then level alts so you can do more dailies on them too, eek
@cr4mb0ne
@cr4mb0ne 4 жыл бұрын
Aw man I never write comments on youtube videos but as a longtime player who tried to get back into the game in late bfa, you just said everything I was feeling. I felt like a filthy casual scrub for complaining about the giant pile of bs they're making me slog through to be viable in the content I actually want to play so it's comforting to hear someone who clearly knows a lot about the game and puts a lot of time into it voicing the same concerns I had. You're really articulate and get your points across in a concise way and still manage to be entertaining without any added fluff. I don't sub to many wow channels but you've earned it :)
@shadowlife15
@shadowlife15 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we have a level-headed and logical voice like you out there, blizzard doesn't listen to their player base but they have been known to listen to content creators, hopefully some devs watch this video and learn from it! Thanks for making it!
@pyromanglad1136
@pyromanglad1136 4 жыл бұрын
My favourite expansion is MoP. Ye there were tons of daily quests, but the thing is, it wasnt necessery to do it. Most of them was just for customization aspect as mounts, toys, transmog. So for me as a pvp player it was perfect design, because i havent been forced to do them to be able to play and enjoy the game. Just make shadowlands the same way, please.
@PhenomRom
@PhenomRom 4 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE I MISS MOP
@rickroll9705
@rickroll9705 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong. They were must have for professions.You also had to farm rep to buy certian trinkets like thunder isle patch ones.
@starrystarrynight52
@starrystarrynight52 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in MoP I actually enjoyed doing the dailies for the mounts. I mean it was something to look forward to. My brain goes into foggy mode with BFA dailies. Reminds of going to Church when I was a kid and singing the same songs every week. I knew all the words but my mind was 1000 miles away.
@oskarpetersen962
@oskarpetersen962 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like MoP was unappreciated in its time, but retrospectively now with BFA on our plate, MoP looking back was actually an excellent xpac, at least imo.
@gorkskoal9315
@gorkskoal9315 4 жыл бұрын
so that.
@tierdra9513
@tierdra9513 4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to gear out of all the gear in BFA The Mechagon bracers (Hyperthread Wristwraps), is by far the most interesting item. While you do get higher ilevel versions at higher levels it's primary point of value is the non-scalable activation ability. The best part is that it's good for some classes and broken op for others, well just for Fire mage, which is why all workshop runs get swarmed by mages. That's the kind of gear I like to see more of, I want more people to be walking around with a single item that is 20+ ilevel lower than the rest of their gear but makes their class really work.
@davidfarago1378
@davidfarago1378 4 жыл бұрын
But for this to happen, they should get rid of the ilvl system, too much ppl rely on it. They don't look at your skills, they look at your ilvl and rio...
@elitebooger8208
@elitebooger8208 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidfarago1378 They would do that anyway... Before item level we just looked at spell power or hp. Any decent player is looking at logs or in the case of mythic+ runs. Stupid people just look at ilvl but as a fire mage in 8.2. I was 432 ilvl and doing 48k in eternal palace. Item level means nothing and good players don't just go off it or io. They look at individual runs or logs. If you under-geared good guilds look at your damage taken and parses for ilvl instead of just ilvl. If they're a semi decent guild anyway. Feeding people gear is easy once you've done mythic for x months. Anyone who is 50% done with mythic realizes this.
@ddrac
@ddrac 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on, on every single suggestion. The sad part is that this will fall to deaf ears for once more. I have zero faith in this company anymore.
@iversonsilva793
@iversonsilva793 4 жыл бұрын
On uninteresting loot: I have been playing a new character, as in im "starting over" after not playing for years. While i was exploring, i noticed mobs, quests and gear scales with your level( to a limit), and at some poiny i stoped going out of my main big city because, why should i? I can get gear AND exp on dungeons. Maybe i could level my professions, or hunt some very specific armor for my planned trasmog, but thats about it.l
@bear576
@bear576 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds impossible to remove all this stuff given how its been ingrained into the game for almost a decade.
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, it's so tainted now that i don't know if it can be saved
@baldie80
@baldie80 4 жыл бұрын
@@EB-bl6cc It could be, if the right people were brought back in and cared enough to extend Classic with new content in the old style. But Activision/Blizzard doesn't think that's the way forward so it's (sadly) not going to happen. That said, Classic is the perfect opportunity to split the player base in a healthy way. Those who like the "Retail" treadmill could keep it, while the fans of Classic could get new content, even if it was at a slower pace. Then, since Blizzard can doubtless track the numbers of "who plays which version of the game, and for how long" they could devote development resources to the version that is actually bringing in the cash. THAT said, I don't think they want to lose the extra revenue from things like store mounts/pets, and especially Token sales. All the features that have allowed them to make more money on fewer people are the same features that have caused there to be fewer people to make money on in the first place.
@chrism3562
@chrism3562 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on as usual. The current daily grind is so overwhelming. I WOULD rather sleep and sometimes do, and dream about simpler times.
@penguinchris796
@penguinchris796 4 жыл бұрын
Daily content should be reserved for professions and rep grinds where the rewards are generally cosmetic or at least inconsequential to overall gearing. The netherwing grind was long and arduous, but if I didn't log in for a day I knew I would simply finish a day later than expected, with all of the RNG involved and less finite goals, missing a daily or a world quest means I might miss out on an amazing gear drop. I guess that is what they are going for but it feels bad, especially when I do all of my chores but don't really get rewarded for them. Situationally useful gear and specs is also a better route than trying to achieve hyper-balance and could reduce the need to grind for marginally better versions of the same item, imo. Requiring resistance based gear for some fights or areas feels more natural, and will give you something to work towards. It feels better to say "I'm getting wrecked in the poison swamp area better get some nature resistance gear", than "I got my bracer drop but there's no socket, guess I wasted an hour". Having fights that require different gear sets due to their damage type, or enemies that are resistant to damage types, requiring you to play more of your class or enlist help from someone who is more suited just feels more natural. For mages maybe it's as simple as throwing some frost bolts instead of fireballs at the fire elemental where for melee it can be the difference between weapon types, heavy armour guy is weak to blunt attacks, switch from your sword to your mace. Why have damage and weapon types and enemy varieties if you're not going to take full advantage of them? This could also reinvigorate some of the gear crafting professions, maybe you just need any level appropriate mace for this heavy armour based enemy not the Hammer of Justice reforged in the blood of Illidan, aged in the anal cavity of C'Thun, and blessed by RNGesus 4 times over.
@Kottery
@Kottery 4 жыл бұрын
At a glance I thought the Sylvanas in the thumbnail was Nixxiom's death knight so color me confused when your intro music plays when I thought I clicked on a Nixxiom vid.
@joshfish7385
@joshfish7385 4 жыл бұрын
One unique way to make stuff somewhat interesting again, even old content could be relevant to an extent is by; allow a certain sandbox element to the game. Where you can get a house & decorate it with your feats of strength / armour racks showing gear or weapons etc, Highly customisable nothing like the Baracks they forced on everyone .. give some control back to the ‘players’ not just a script of what is to be done. My opinion is minimal, I gave up on retail after sticking it out far to long hoping..
@jessekela165
@jessekela165 3 жыл бұрын
Try Sims. Don't bring this to WoW.
@GodOfWar187
@GodOfWar187 4 жыл бұрын
Disagree on dungeons. M+ ruined dungeons for some people, myself included. They've turned them into an esport and I hate it. BC and early Cata heroics are a much better system imo, but it looks like we're stuck with M+ forever.
@Zakon673
@Zakon673 4 жыл бұрын
I just hate the timelimit they impose. I hate doing stupid bullshit gimmicks to skip trash, I hate feeling rushed instead of being able to take on a challenge at my own pace. People can call me casual if they wish but M+ should be something I enjoy, since I like the idea of infinitely scaling content meant for small parties, but the trash skipping meta and the rush is what kills it for me.
@Katabatic44
@Katabatic44 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you on mythic plus dungeons. I hate timers so freaking much. Why does challenging dungeon content have to be a race?
@FoXi678
@FoXi678 4 жыл бұрын
When i started my adventure with wow game (the very start of the legion), i basically felt in love with the game. Was so hyped about getting artifact and unlocking all the traits. Decided to have all classes in game so either bought or leveled em up just to play the game with every single variety i was able to achieve. I did not even bother making all the same content all over and over - still up to this day i remember sytuations, when i died from skmebody exping and i knew what quests will he do and where will he go. And now i want to play current game but i can not find myself, im getting bored with only one or two of my characters - not to mention i spent all my legions experience alting all chars i was able to. Do not really understand the problem of this game - as u said, id rather go and sleep than play. Lost so many people so i do not have anybody to go for mythic + or raids, that is kinda sad, failed my guils multiply times when i wqs about to do raid with em, but i did not have good gear enough to join them. Bought every book from warcraft universe, have so many ambient music videos to sleep to. I just hope time will bring better changes to the game.
@mysticgise
@mysticgise 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy's Bracers of Potent Farts is my new favorite thing.
@Hangman1
@Hangman1 4 жыл бұрын
The best thing with WoW are you tube channels like yours that shows how good this WAS and how good CAN BE 👍
@B0Sajwah
@B0Sajwah 4 жыл бұрын
I just love love love love your intro. It's so charming and soothing. It feels like you're welcoming me to your home that's right next to a soft flowing river. And it complements your voice well. Cheers :)
@funakfunak2740
@funakfunak2740 4 жыл бұрын
Felt like I had to write something after what you said about daily activities. I tried playing BfA, in fact I tried it twice with a gap in between and it turned out exactly as you said. I leveled along fine, reached max level, suddenly I was bombarded by half a billion suggestions to go everywhere, my quest log, which I hardly noticed existed before was suddenly too full to even take all these suggestions. I searched for a guide online on what the hell I was supposed to do, found a good five different ones all talking about completely different content, so I rushed into a flurry, unlocking mechagon, unlocking that underwater place, unlocking some other type of worldquests that I never really gathered what they were for, did the emissaries, slogged my way through what quests were available in mechagon and the waterzone, tried to progress the whole amulet storyline with Magni, on the way there noticing some sort of shit going on in uldun that I made a note of and then left alone. The next few days I did the same with slightly less vigor every day, on the 4th day, I logged in took a flight to Mechagon, went to read a book instead, found myself logged out due to inactivity, and the next day I just didn't log in again. I barely did anything in the game, got nowhere, understood nothing and I got too burned out to even want to log in again. A game have never ever made me feel this depressed, alone, isolated and apathetic ever before, so I guess if that was the goal of BFA, then they succeeded with it.
@turcandumitru
@turcandumitru 4 жыл бұрын
As for "making loot interesting again", at least in legion they had those legendaries....
@tomekkruk6147
@tomekkruk6147 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone complained about them, including me, but man, compared to what we have to deal with today it seems like a perfect system (which it wasn't). But the dude made a good point - i still remember what i was wearing on my warrior in Vanilla and more less remember where all that drops. Because these things were rare and unique.
@ABurntMuffin
@ABurntMuffin 4 жыл бұрын
holy hell you know your game is lost when "legendaries" are for every class and everyone can get them. Very legendary. VERY. LEGENDARY.
@wisniamw
@wisniamw 4 жыл бұрын
@@ABurntMuffin For every class, for almost every slot. In legion you could be almost full legendary xD Bring back normal items, not this random generated crap AND BRING BACK NORMAL STATS, LIKE TONS OF IT
@ThingsYouDontLike
@ThingsYouDontLike 4 жыл бұрын
The main problem that I had with the legendary system in legion was mostly the completely RNG way of getting them, you basically had to just do M+ and Raids all the day all the time and hope you roll the dice enough to get it. I spent the first 2 months of Legion with no legendary, only to get my BiS legendary (Unholy DK bracers) and instantly quit the game. It just didn't make me feel accomplished that I had obtained that item and I knew I wasn't having fun. I felt more relief rather than excitement that I had it drop. It also didn't help that Unholy DK was literally the worst DPS class during Nightmare. There is something to say about how it devalued the idea of a "legendary", rarity wise. However, epics have been that way since forever now and really nobody gives a shit anymore. Legendaries have really stopped being special since the the MoP cloak, so I didn't have a problem with legion legendaries in that way.
@dubious6718
@dubious6718 4 жыл бұрын
They fucked up that too...
@davidsabillon5182
@davidsabillon5182 3 жыл бұрын
One year later he quits WoW. Wow
@DJJ81
@DJJ81 Жыл бұрын
Bro I’ve been watching you for years, and never noticed how chill and soothing the background music is. Well done
@Guet69
@Guet69 3 жыл бұрын
Blizzard shareholder and employee should be force to to the daily quest each days after works.
@wildhorse4
@wildhorse4 4 жыл бұрын
We should get all WoW streamers and WoW personalities to stand up and start a partition to quit for a month all at the same time! To quit "pay to win" in Classic and also take away some features from TBC like flying just to keep the ground interaction alive and in the fly zones we can see special flight master for certain zones that require fly only or you have to do a internment to get a whistle for that zone or special zones like Kaazak zone in BC maybe even keep the level cap at 60 and make every Dungon and Raid viable in BC! So as every expansion you get new raids and dungeons but still have the choice to run old ones as for gear that would still be viable! Given players and guilds more choices to pick and choose from every week to do a different 40/25 man raid every week!
@calculus3661
@calculus3661 4 жыл бұрын
Some zones in tbc require flying.
@DrPizka
@DrPizka 4 жыл бұрын
For me personally, I would also love to see slower paced fights again. Nowadays in retail the pace of the fights and the animations are identical to MOBA-like games (LoL, DotA etc). Oh, and please make it so we don't need 10 people to kill a single healer in BGs..
@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff
@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff 4 жыл бұрын
I just can't play my casters anymore on retail after coming back from classic because they all feel way too fast and every spell feels the same...
@DrPizka
@DrPizka 4 жыл бұрын
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff I feel the same for my rogue too lol
@nairdaoriejet7227
@nairdaoriejet7227 4 жыл бұрын
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff Magic Bolt - Do 50 magic damage 1.5 sec cast Magic spell number 2 - Do 52 magic damage CD 5 seconds 1.5 sec cast Magic spell 3 - Do 5000 magic damage Instant cast requires you to cast 5 shitty spells before this This but with all classes
@Slammer_1970
@Slammer_1970 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at getting back into playing Warcraft because of Classic. I played current Warcraft a year ago and found it way too easy for me. When I first started playing, i remember it taking me almost three months to reach level 35-40. At the end of January of last year, I had gone from level 1 to level 70 in that time frame. Once again, I found it easy too easy for someone that loves to play video games and MMOs.
@zizzla3887
@zizzla3887 4 жыл бұрын
- Remove flying in Kalimdor and eastern kingdoms - Put in PVP and PVE Vendors - Put in rating req on PVP gear from Arena - Nerf Guards - Bring back /pvp on and off, fuck warmode. - Bring back progression through raids. - Remove catch ups. - Bring back normal 10/25 and heroic 10/25 and just have a mythic for very hard. - Bring back no cd dispell, having it on CD is just awful. AWFUL. - Bring back old talent trees (wotlk or cata) both worked great - Stop with AP bring necklace shit - Legendary only from insane PVE or PVP grind - Bring back Arena teams. - Make classes unique like in Wotlk with dispell/decurse for healers - Remove titan forge and all that RNG bonus crap.
@phoenix887
@phoenix887 4 жыл бұрын
What I hope will happen after classic: TBC comes out, WOTLK comes out. THEN, blizzard develops a new expansion in the spirit of those three xpacs and starts a alternate, better timeline for wow. This would fix the problem of stagnation that will eventually happen with classic. That is if blizzard can still be trusted with developing a new xpac that is as good or better as the first three. Retail as it stands right now is too fucked to fix imho.
@dubious6718
@dubious6718 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we get Uldum and Kara in Classic, like they was supposed to be
@miroslavzima8856
@miroslavzima8856 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sick just becuse of the list of the daily/weekly. Overall it was fun when I was new player. But now it´s just busy work. I really doubt they will change that :/
@iBlueFoxxy
@iBlueFoxxy 4 жыл бұрын
Millions comeback every launch
@miroslavzima8856
@miroslavzima8856 4 жыл бұрын
@@iBlueFoxxy True - and if they keep coming, then why changing things?
@NoobGamer-di1dw
@NoobGamer-di1dw 4 жыл бұрын
iBlueFoxxy Tons of people are still on retail despite what classic players say I’d say they’re split pretty even honestly I’m on both from time to time. Retail more cause Classic is pretty boring to me. With the 100%xp boost retail might even have more players on it right now tons of people everywhere and like 1-3 min dungeon ques even as a dps leveling at least for me.
@iBlueFoxxy
@iBlueFoxxy 4 жыл бұрын
@@miroslavzima8856 they come back because of changes and new stuff lol...
@EB-bl6cc
@EB-bl6cc 4 жыл бұрын
@@iBlueFoxxy yeah, it's still enough to make money to justify it. although the retention after launch is awful compared to past expansions
@MoreIrrelevantTwaddle
@MoreIrrelevantTwaddle 4 жыл бұрын
Something about a MadSeasonShow video just makes me feel like I just went back to my childhood home, walked into my room, and climbed into bed. Just makes me happy. As for this video, I completely agree with all your points. I want to play retail, I want to play it more than people can imagine, but I work 8 hours a day, the last thing I want to do is work another 4 in Azeroth.
@Shek1nah
@Shek1nah 4 жыл бұрын
i totally agree with your loot critic. every piece feels like the same with the missing uniqueness. in current if you wanna look for gear, you just scroll the dungeon jornal and look for trinkets + the 2 side attributes, cause you know main anttribute + stamnia is allways on it. there is no depth behind it. if you loot your weekly chest, you only look if there is the right 2nd attributes on it/ with corruption if it has the right kind + the right tier. why should there be main attribute AND stam on every piece? let there be glass cannons who sacrifice raw power over durability. let there be bruiser like items, that will never reach top DPS, but can endure 1 or 2 hits more. let there be items, that sacrifice power for more supporting effects. why should gear allways have only positive stats on them? why should gear allways have 2 2ndary stats? why do rings only have stam + 2 2ndary stats? let the gear be gear again and not some arrangement of: the best 2 2ndary attributes. let it be unique again. the best thing in bfa was CoS, where there were items, that had a unique effects on them. the only rememberable gear there was in whole BFA. it was so cool, cause you got an effect, but at a cost. Or the 2h sword from Kingsrest, which sacrificed 2nd attris for a good effect. and the daily/weekly things, i play in a progress guild currently at M n´zoth but all these artificial grind azerite grinds are the reason most people say its enough. and all this RNG factors, i clearly remember when a shadow priest somewhere in the middle of the meters laughed after he got loot: infinite stars t3.... was the next top dps and it was true. more than 33% of his overall dmg from a freaking random proc? the next thing eternal palace: why was this even a thing? if you wanted to progress you needed the pearl gear from the vendors and upgrade it, with random created bonus effects? are you serious? the worst thing: there was not even a real reward from the mythic raid, cause you couldnt replace your 425 pearl gear with mythic raid gear, cause the pearl gear was still better? about proc effects with attacks, im playing arms: a mortal strike should be a mortal strike and not procking like 20 diffrent effects. and from legion i know how it felt to be reduced to procks. but there can be a good middle ground.
@xenongames9777
@xenongames9777 4 жыл бұрын
Big truths coming out of ur mouth my friend, hopfully the bring back tier sets, and most of ur dmg actually comes from ur class abilties and not from random procs.
@theMJL
@theMJL 4 жыл бұрын
If they fixed these things, Id play retail again. I miss it.
@Jorvalt
@Jorvalt 2 жыл бұрын
"And if we don't speak up about BFA, we'll just get another BFA instead of Shadowlands." Oh. Ohhhhh. That didn't age well.
@onadaTotihotiH
@onadaTotihotiH 4 жыл бұрын
At least FFXIV also has the different sub stats on either Savage or tomestone gear to differentiate them and give different BiSs for the different jobs
@Qfoxrythm
@Qfoxrythm 4 жыл бұрын
we are to deep into the gearing system. i lost hope for change
@ignamax08
@ignamax08 4 жыл бұрын
Im tired of endless farming for nothing. Every patch makes everything trash except the new content. New wow feels like a waste of time
@grummle7545
@grummle7545 4 жыл бұрын
Don`t touch: Raids+Mythic+ 1.Tier Sets 2.Classes great again 3.Loot more interesting 4.Less daily+weekly 5.Get back in touch with audience
@wow6720
@wow6720 4 жыл бұрын
Without dailies you have farming water elementals in felwood for hours... Or farming swirly thingies in Silithus for hours... With a completely brand new character you can probably get your neck to 75 in like 5 days of normal play + the weekly rewards. You can outgear warfront rewards in the same time with either wq's, weeklies, m+, raids etc. You have soooo many ways to gear up, there is no need to do something you don't want to unless you dislike every single gameplay element of retail wow. Essences can be quite a pain for new characters I admit. I did play since the release of BFA but I just rerolled to a brand new server and it really didn't take long to get to 450ish ilvl once I capped. The 2 main zones of 8.3 don't even need bfa pathfinder.
@DoctorObviously
@DoctorObviously 4 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful, well-made video coming from a place of love.
@PokeCao3
@PokeCao3 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope Shadowlands turns out well...
@revolution94ful
@revolution94ful 4 жыл бұрын
They make it out to be nostalgic in regards to stats, as well as not requiring you to expac jump from 1-60. We’ll see. They mentioned class spells that have different effects depending on your character build. Pretty interesting but time will tell.
@annonono
@annonono 4 жыл бұрын
wotlk good cata bad mop good wod bad legion good bfa bad shadowlands good
@DrPluton
@DrPluton 4 жыл бұрын
Things I would change or remove if I were in charge of World of Warcraft development: 1: World Quests. I loved the idea of world quests when they were first announced because I liked the idea of going back to earlier zones to do adventure. The problem is that Blizzard made them mandatory in order to increase faction reputation and didn't give any other effective way. This forces players to log in to get their emissary quest. I would make world quests in every zone and give reputation based on a faction present in the zone. World quest in the Wetlands as Alliance? Here's some Ironforge reputation. World quest in Winterspring as Horde? Here's some Everlook reputation. 2: Gearing. Bringing back tier sets is a must. Make gear interesting without doing complete RNG. I want more weapons with procs. I want Mastery renamed and made available at level 10 (even if that would require altering a specialization or making the mastery useless until a little later). Bring back item enhancements (enchants, leatherworking/tailoring leg enhancers, etc.). Put more items in the game with sockets so that people can customize gear. 3: Classes. Stop taking away abilities. Make more abilities baseline to the class instead of the spec. 4: Mission tables: Scrap them. They're artificial resource spenders that don't need to exist in every single expansion. They are not fun. Back in WoD, everybody used an add-on to select the best party for missions anyway.
@ShiyoKozuki
@ShiyoKozuki 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the "raids should be the end all". As you can see, when raids no longer give the best rewards people lose interest in them. People don't have time for 20 person schedules in 2020 and only put up with it because we HAD to for the best gear. When alternatives exist that require no scheduling and less people to do, people stop raiding. Raiding needs to be put on the back burner for smaller lowman content like dungeons and hard solo challenges. It's the future of MMO's.
@drmadmadhead4763
@drmadmadhead4763 4 жыл бұрын
PvP venders!!! im sick of doing PvE just so i can PvP!!! i understand some people love PvE but for me once i've done it 4 or 5 times im kinda done with it.
@sheeptime7441
@sheeptime7441 4 жыл бұрын
It's partnered with Activision. I recommend deleting system32
@zwarnick3216
@zwarnick3216 4 жыл бұрын
You speak with my heart. BFA was the point where I stop caring. I stop caring about raiding, stop caring about PVP, stop caring about anything. It was such so annoying in every way. And everything was so pointless. The only reason I keep playing bfa is my personal lack of alternative games and RP. Without RP I would cancelled my sub long ago. I love this game, I really do. BC/Wotlk was the best time in my life when it comes to wow. I enjoyed every single thing about it. After my return (pre patch legion) I was Stunned how much the game has changed and how pointless a lot of things are. But I least I was busy with Legion, Legion Raids and old content that I missed. Now in BFA I see a lot of flaws. It feels like a complete different game, it isn’t the game that I once loved and that is what make me very, very sad. I stay for RP and the world but I wish the game would be a BC/Wotlk mix again. I even miss the annoying parts like arrows, keys, rouge skills etc. I fucking miss the RP in my MMO. Please bring it back Blizzard.
@BlueShellshock
@BlueShellshock 4 жыл бұрын
Point I agree with most is to make loot interesting. There's something fun about customizing a character to your specifications. Finding a sword with lower overall DPS but slower speed means, despite the DPS, it will hit harder on active abilities. An upgrade that increases the damage of heavy attacks versus a same-slot upgrade that improves light attacks might have you considering whether you're after a bruiser style that trades blows or whether you try and avoid every hit. A non-stacking poison makes sense for someone who only hits once in awhile, whereas a lifesteal effect makes sense for someone always in the fray. These are fun and interesting decisions that change how a person plays their character. Even if a 'best' setup exists, it may not necessarily overshadow other styles if it has unique weaknesses it has to overcome, or second-best styles have cool mechanics that excel where the best setup doesn't.
@programalpha1848
@programalpha1848 4 жыл бұрын
his voice literally almost made me fall asleep in home office
@Lunethzero
@Lunethzero 4 жыл бұрын
The difference today is that they make WoW content designed for eastern markets. Over there its nonstop grind and cash shop stuff. Its not that they can't make good stuff for us, its that they choose not to for the sake of an easier and exploitable market
@Rohan_Trishan
@Rohan_Trishan 4 жыл бұрын
Some great suggestions. Only thing I kinda disagree with is "make gear interesting again".... atleast now any gear that drops has secondary stats that will always be useful, in classic vanilla or even some of the earlier xpacs gear was poorly itemized/designed and you could get gear where half the secondary stats were useless to your spec.... like hit/expertise, dodge, defense, spirit, ect. I don't want to see any regression in the gear design in that way. I think having some gear with cool and interesting procs is a good idea, that thematically fit the name or design look of the gear/weapon that drops, but I feel like they still do this to a degree, esp for weapons, trinkets, and some accessories, so its not really an issue. It seems like the corruption and azeurite stuff was meant to try and add those interesting procs to a variety of gear types but maybe the design philosophy on that needs some tweaking and adjustments. I love rng procs and stuff but they def took it too far in BFA. I do agree that stuff like titanforging/corruption or whatever that can make your "BiS" seem less complete is not a really good thing and could use some work, they said it was designed to give people who farm raids, esp of a lower difficulty to help gear their raid, to have something to look forward to when bosses drop gear that might still be useful for them instead of just vendor trash.... but perhaps some version of badge gear or being able to shard older gear or lower ilvl drops to collect shards and convert into a more useful item would work out better. The whole dailies issue is another issue that seems to be a common complaint in the community. I agree that it is annoying and can feel tedious or "required" despite it not being so and make players feel burnt out. I don't have a good suggestion other then to tone it back some, but they wanted to give players many options to get gear/gold/rep or alternate paths to experience content and get some good gear without mythic raiding so not sure what all they can do there. I think part of this issue is just with the playerbase playing the game too much.... as many of these are more like "catch up" mechanics or for people who can only play a few hours a day while some people just play all day but still do all the side content that they could technically skip since they can get gear thru mythic dungeons/raids anyways.
@murandix5950
@murandix5950 4 жыл бұрын
You have my vote on having devs do the amulet grind without the azerite knowledge just like Method did to det max lvl first week and lets see how much they love the design of Island Expeditions...
@supersolenoid
@supersolenoid 4 жыл бұрын
"You don't need daily busywork to keep people playing. You need a well designed and rewarding MMO to keep people playing" We all have a life, a job and other daily commitments. We CAN'T play 8 hours a day and not even 3 hours every damn night. Expecting us to is insane and it's not even a matter of "dude, play another game, then". That kind of commitment is unhealthy. I'd choose playing an MMORPG over watching TV any given moment but, still, it must be MY choice when and for how long. Raiding 3/4 nights a weeks is a huge commitment already, a game can't ALSO expect me to grind materials, reagents, artifact power, extra gear and what-have-you in order to be able to raid. That's crazy. Optional content? Yes. Grinding for cosmetic/vanity items? Fine. But that's about it. The very first thing Blizzard needs to do is SEGREGATING HIGH-END GEAR once again, making it only usable in the content it came from, which means (currently) Rated PVP, HC/M Raids, M+ dungeons. Then: A) make gear up to the level of HC dungeons or LFR/Norm Raid usable in any content B) scale down any higher gear when used in content different from the item's original source C) add a paced progression system to open world content where players can increase their power and/or gear ilvl (which again will only work in non-instanced content)
@ghoraxe9000
@ghoraxe9000 4 жыл бұрын
Blizzard really needs to listen to this man... he knows what he's talking about
@StevieAfterHours
@StevieAfterHours 4 жыл бұрын
It's no coincidence Blizzard has lost some of it's best game designers, developers, storyline creators, etc. Look at the big names who have left over the past few years. Sure, people get burnt out, but when you have someone like Chris Metzen, so deeply ingrained in the game's design and lore, get up and leave, it speaks volumes.
@nikovidya7994
@nikovidya7994 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the problem is dailies. At least they got you out doing world content for something you wanted, like mounts or something good for your spec. The problem is having these universal power gains like azerite or valor points as rewards, so the player's choice of what to work on for the day no longer exists, you just have to do all of it.
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