Flameouts, Face Plants, and Future Mod Plans: Honda CRF450L First Ride Off Road

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My first ride on my brand new to me Honda CRF450L was an interesting experience. I wanted to see if the Honda CRF 450L was all it's cracked up to be, so the first thing I did on it was hit up some Honda CRF450L off road riding including some of my favorite local single track trails. Everything started well and I was impressed with the Honda CRF450RL off road performance, but it wasn't long before I ran into the infamous 450L flame out issue. I had 4 total flameouts on this trail riding adventure, and that's not a very encouraging sign for a bike with less than 1000 miles on it. I also had a little mishap and was able to scratch my first CRF 450RL crash off the list after the front end got sideways on me in some loose dirt. These stock tires are definitely going to have to go.
Speaking of new tires, the other thing we talk about in this video is all the future Honda CRF450L mods I'm planning to do to this bike to turn it into the ultimate BDR-killing light adventure bike but still retain the ability to do CRF450RL single track riding with ease.
All in all, I'm super stoked about the possibilities of this new dual sport motorcycle, but my 450L first ride off road left me with as many questions and concerns and it did answers and things to be excited about. Only time will tell, I guess.
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@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

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@shawnorcutt2119 Жыл бұрын

As you discribe it and watching it,I would say it's performance is like a mx bike that's what I ride up there.get a tuner and if you don't like the shocks turn them down just make sure not to much so they bottom out.

@MOEMUGGY Жыл бұрын

This makes up my mind about getting a DRZ.. Over 20 years later, and it's tough to beat. It's still the best "Every mans bike"

@commentaccount49 Жыл бұрын

My 450RL pulls double duty as my commuter bike and dirt bike. After 14 months of ownership and 8500miles the minimum mods I would do over again (in order): Comfy Seat, ECU, Dirt Tires, and Bark Busters. I would buy the same bike again.

@BigRockMoto Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new bike! I guess I should film the KTM 690 I just bought...

@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

Dude. That's awesome 😂

@justingoodger5383 Жыл бұрын

Hi. For both of you. Please recommend 890, T7, 690 or 450RL for transamerican trail. Then later, Florida riding.😊

@MrBeauDrums Жыл бұрын

Having grown up in the Willamette Valley, and now living in Central Oregon, watching your videos gives me constant inspiration to get out and explore our beautiful state. Thanks for the quality content!!

@rbm2017 Жыл бұрын

Please keep this one and get it dialed in. These things have so much potential and get way more complaints than they deserve.

@MrDeathdonkey Жыл бұрын

I had 0 flame outs after a rekluse install, you can just chug around in 2nd on single track all day - also the G2 is a really nice cheap mod. Also make sure to play with the suspension compression and rebound settings, they make a HUGE difference on this bike, especially for a heavy guy like myself.

@realxxbulletsxx7624 Жыл бұрын

wait.. you did a $1200 Rekluse vs a $250 efi ??

@MrDeathdonkey Жыл бұрын

@@realxxbulletsxx7624 Not really, I did the rekluse initially for carpal tunnel issues, then I did a vortex and exhaust later for fun not as flame out solution. I think the rekluse was 6 or 700. I just got the clutch pack and not the cover.

@adamanderson8838 Жыл бұрын

This was so much fun to watch. Thanks man. Definitely been looking at this bike for my first dual sport bike.

@conradjordan1222 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for being honest with your initial thoughts. That’s why people love this channel

@russellborn515 Жыл бұрын

When you bought your DRZ i convinced myself to buy one. Now you're convincing me to keep it. The fact that it's paid for and I'm a cheap bastard might be factors too. I do hope you get the Honda sorted out.

@commentaccount49 Жыл бұрын

@Dual ADV I disagree as it depends on what you're doing with the bike. What I do with my 450RL, I would not be able to do with a DR-Z.

@butcherknife59knife46 Жыл бұрын

Nice buy Road Dork. Congratulations with your new place. Stay safe and rubber side down Around Bend Oregon out!

@expandingknowledge8269 Жыл бұрын

It's so enlightening to see you get the bike you always wanted. Groom this fine motorcycle to conform to your wish list, you can't go wrong with a Honda! I feel the same about my KLR650 2012. CHEERS!

@ChaseJasperDown Жыл бұрын

That’s a lot of bike no doubt but it looked like towards the end of the video, you were more confident and going faster. Awesome video and those views were killer!

@SlowEddie Жыл бұрын

Thx for the vid dude. I’ve considered this bike every time one pops up.

@sonofasausageking9267 Жыл бұрын

I started my riding days in 2014 and my purchases have mirrored yours to some degree, starting with my 250l. My ride journey included a trip to Beaverton Moto for a 450l in December 2020 and after 3 flame outs on a test spin and no ride home, I left with 2021 KTM 500EXC-F. I have never been more pleased! You will love the 450 after those mods and a dedicated BDR, lightweight ADV bike is game changing. Congrats! BTW we are hitting the WABDR in a few weeks if ya care to test it out or I can send you some gaia tracks for Sisters, OR that are perfect for that bike.

@sjmorrow10 Жыл бұрын

Everyone in the comments section talking about throttle tamers and flywheel weights... I hate to break it to you, but the only thing that fixes the flame out and the twitchy throttle is the vortex ECU. You can take or leave the other two mods after that, but don't expect either of these mods to fix the issue without the ECU. Speaking from experience... Been riding my 450RL for 2 years now

@lexdfox Жыл бұрын

I vote this bike being named "Twitchy McGhee." It definitely is a thing but that g2 ergonomics throttle tamer will help for sure. Hope the panel works for ya!

@jchapman1351 Жыл бұрын

Love your honesty. The flameout is a well known issue and that’s why there is so many for sale. Keep it real like you’re doing! Well done!

@captainamerica9353 Жыл бұрын

There are none for sale anywhere near me, up in northern MN / WI. Yes, it's still snowmobile weather (March 2023), but I've seen few if any on Craig's, Facebook, eBay, etc., even last Fall. I see a few 300L's, all priced above retail, where are all these 450's ?

@walterconn5637 Жыл бұрын

I’m finally getting to watch the 450L videos. I’m looking forward to it.

@2wheels.are.better.than4 Жыл бұрын

Beast! KZfaqr ChasingTrail went from that bike to a 300L to a KTM six days and ended up settling on a Beta 430

@bikelifeagenda3896 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Those are great bikes! Try raising the idle up a bit should help a bit with the flame outs. They definitely are a much more work on the body but once you get usto it there alot of fun. Tighten up the bike with your knees while standing eases the strain on the arms. So glad your on that bike. Once you get a little confidence and experience on that bike you'll be ripping those single tracks! Hang in there bud and enjoy it! There a ton of fun!

@mmclaughlin006 Жыл бұрын

I also highly recommend the Athena GET ECU, also from Taco Moto. Pairs best with the full Graves exhaust, but my goodness, what a difference! The graves saves a ton of weight, and the GET is wonderful, smooths that throttle out and gives it loads of power!

@onelink09 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the new bike. I also picked up a 2019 CRF450L recently. We were probably competing for one in western Oregon. I am using the JD Jetting 6X. I can't compare it to a new ECU, but it definitely helps with twitchiness. It seems to start better as well.

@karryhoward3946 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm all most to the point in my riding at my age lighter is better, still plan on keeping my '07 beemer for the tar/distance old but simple and comfortable. been riding '13 dr650 for couple years in the dual sport stuff but getting ready to go CRF450RL so thank you for the content I'll be watching.

@expandingknowledge8269 Жыл бұрын

I owned a brand new SC-500 Yamaha when they came out, back in the day. This thing would leave your eye teeth in the trench it left taking off. But I learned to control the power output, and tailor it to my riding style, which was "Full Wide Open." No one I rode with could ever catch me on the trails, ever. Did the mods, and it really was a fantastic bike. Have matured a lot in the years, I am now 65, so my steed of choice is now a 2012 KLR650. Love your new mount, groom her, and she's yours! With respect Expanding Knowledge.Cheers!

@tompava3923 Жыл бұрын

First priorities for my '22 RL were: Seat Concepts Throttle Tamer 5 gallon Nomad tank. (I LOVE IT!) Rear rack Mosko Rekless 40 luggage Now running a 14/52 sprocket combo Finally got the Vortex (5 months and 6500 miles after ordering) Much smoother overall. Very Nice! Hated the stock tires! Changed them @ 1300 miles. No flameouts yet! (Killing it because of low RPM/low flywheel weight is not "flameout" it is you getting used to the light flywheel ) Yep, she can wear you out! ✌😎

@bryandaniel2528 Жыл бұрын

Hang in there. It gets way better with the DSport Tires, Seat Concepts, and Seat Time. I haven't done ECU or G2 Tamer and still almost never stalls. It seems to smooth out and you will too.

@jwaller1327 Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's an apples to oranges comparison, maybe not. I had a similar experience a few months ago. I had a KLX300 that I was using as a single-track trail bike, not as a dual sport. I traded it for a CRF250RX, which has the same horsepower, but less torque, than your CRF450L. I had feelings about the suspension being a bit too harsh, the power delivery being too abrupt/jerky, and the bike feeling twitchy. I had buyer's remorse. But I (had no choice and) stuck with it. I tried actually pushing myself to ride it a bit faster than I'd ride the KLX300 and learned something: the way the bike is set up rewards faster riding and can easily handle the faster riding. Now I love it and have absolutely no regrets for buying it and keeping it. In fact, I love it so much that it's making me want the closest thing to it for street legal riding, the CRF450RL. For now, I'm waiting for the state to update my title, switching my 250'RX from Off Highway Motorcycle to Motorcycle so that I can get it plated to connect trails. Basically, I'm making a CRF250RXL. l've modified it and it's passed the safety inspection, just waiting on the bureaucracy. But I'd still like to add the 450L or RL to the stable. Let's see, I have a Triumph Scrambler that I no longer ride much, a Versys X300 that I use as my daily commuter, and an XT250 that is my back up trail bike/ buddy bike. All my buddies used the XT as the gateway and have bought their own trail bikes, so it's outlived its purpose in that regard. I could sell those three bikes and get a 450RL. My wife would appreciate fewer bikes in the garage, so maybe it would be a win/win. Anyway, looking forward to your progress with the bike. Maybe with a bit more saddle time you'll learn the bike and want to keep it. But it seems a lot of people don't.

@wherewithalmoto Жыл бұрын

Let's hope the mods make it what you want. I'm still happy with my Drz400s but that 450L sure looks fun to rip on!

@michaelorhan1842 Жыл бұрын

I have a 09 450x with Baja kit on it (registered in Washington since I’m in Oregon ;) and had flame outs often until I got the throttle tamer, added two teeth to the rear sprocket, and learned better clutch control. The high revs on highway are worth it for better off-road performance. I would bet an ECU would probably do the trick. The guys at Rocky Mountian use these bikes as their camera man bikes and they often perform better than the bikes they’re showcasing. Except that they do seem to run out of gas often, haha. Have fun on the new ride!

@JCrozier1 Жыл бұрын

Looks like fun. Also, I'm a lot more interested in the 300L rally now.

@mdragon99 Жыл бұрын

Good choice for content! All the videos I watch on the CR450L make them seem to be kinda of a crappy enduro bike out the showroom. People want to love the bike, I know I do, but not sure it's lovable. Not a lot of options on the market.

@RandomGRK Жыл бұрын

Yeah, with no aftermarket ECU, it’s a bike I would never own but with the vortex or whichever you get, it’s incredible. My DR650 didn’t instill much confidence in me as a new rider on tighter stuff and deep sand but this bike has made me a better more confident rider.

@treyveston7965 Жыл бұрын

I just changed out the factory Dunlops for Shinko 244s on my 2022 KLR650 and so far, with just around town and highway riding, they feel much better. Was surprised to hear the lugs "whine" on the highway. Hopefully will be able to get into the nearby woods this weekend to see how it does off-road. After hitting 50, being out of shape and over-weight, and not having ridden off-road since 1984, my first trip into the woods on a new KLR with factory tires, a full gas tank, and no idea what I was doing, was quite unsettling. I thought the bike was defective, the tires defective, and wrote off the whole experience as a mid-life crisis failed experience. However, after watching your BDR series, upgrading my tires, and simply riding more, I am gaining confidence daily. I am getting stronger and losing weight. I will hit the woods again this weekend with the new tires and increased skill. Love your content as it is delivered honestly, humbly, and without the typical trucker-hat hype and bravado. Some day, I will meet you in person and shake your hand for creating truly great content on YT. Headed to Mule Days in Enterprise, OR next weekend, but no where near you on the West coast.

@jpezman1 Жыл бұрын

Two of the best things I've done to my RL, AIM from Tacomoto co., Golden tire GT216AA "fattie front" and Shinko 505 cheater rear. These two mods alone completely transformed the bike, it is now a true dirt bike. Id also look up frame/enginemount/swing arm re-torque procedure so that the frame is less harsh, that really improved the square edge hits for free. Get rid of all the smog crap and plastic bits and save 3-4lbs.

@danjohnson8547 Жыл бұрын

Been loving my 22rl. I found that steg pegz helped with the arms being torn off feeling. Makes you feel like the bike is pushing you along. The bike is not for everyone that is for sure, but it sure is for me :)!

@JohnnyBoy919 Жыл бұрын

Have you had any issues with flameouts? How is it in single track? I heard the idle may be set too low as well.

@danjohnson8547 Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 no flameouts. I don’t have any single track around. Rips on twin track though

@michaellloyd7940 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of selling my Africa Twin at the moment because I just don't ride it as much or at all since buying a KTM 690 enduro. It was a whole new learning curve riding the 690 compared to the twin, but after riding it for awhile it became clear that I wouldn't be riding the Africa Twin as much. The KTM is not a great adventure bike for long distance, but for shorter rides it's perfect for me. A couple of weeks ago some friends and I went to central Oregon and rode part of route 2 and I'm glad I didn't take the Africa Twin. The 690 took on every trail we rode and did it it flawlessly. The 690 is the best off road bike I have ever redden. I can't say much about the 450L because I have never redden one, but I'm sure once you get used it and how it handles you'll like. I will look forward on the updates on your 450L. In the meantime when I sell my Africa Twin I may go back to a KLR? Maybe?

@sspmoto Жыл бұрын

My 2017 450x flames out - even with full clutch engagement during slow speed riding. It wants to run unleashed in wide open desert. Only then is it “at home” and spectacular.

@grandiagod Жыл бұрын

I feel you were too hard on yourself when you dropped the bike. Don't worry about it! If you're out pushing yourself and adapting to new situations it's bound to happen a few times.

@kevinjohnson5389 Жыл бұрын

I bought a 450 RL after coming of a crf 230. At first there was a learning curve. It likes to be ridden hard, and its an absolute riot. The throttle is snappy but i have gotten used to it, and even on moderately tough single track it will do it stock. Like you said alot more clutch work and keeping the rpms up. But it is also essentially a motocross/enduro bike for the road. If you drive it like a motocross or enduro rider it can play nice. Dont get me wrong a seat concepts seat and a G2 throttle tube is in my future

@steveh545 Жыл бұрын

i went from a 230F to a 3002T enduro. Much more power, and snatchy. I did the G2 throttle tamer (and rode in a higher gear) and it sort of worked. In the end (after maybe 20 hours of light trail work) realized it was the wrong tool for the job, or for me, or both. Took a loss, sent the bike of a better home. It is what it is

@butterytoast4836 Жыл бұрын

Still riding my 22RL mostly stock including the tires in NJ. Tons of soft sand here. It’s a slip and slide for me whenever I get into soft sand. Have to stay on the throttle. I haven’t really had any issues with flame outs. Only when my bike is cold but once it’s warm it never does it to me. I plan on getting the vortex ECU and Yoshimura pipe before spring of next year.

@mmaaddict78 Жыл бұрын

My fuel injected KTM 350 has the same cold start knob on the throttle body, so I don't think it's very unusual that your 450 has one. Nice first ride.

@BigDaveTALKS Жыл бұрын

I tell ya what. Suspension would be the first mod I would do. After hating my WR450F I decided to get the suspension tailored to my weight. It made so much difference in the riding experience. The tires really no longer mattered once the suspension was set correctly. After that, the very first thing I do with all my bikes, minus the 2022 Africa Twin, is yank my suspension and send it off to my local shop. My buddy thought I was nuts because I got a brand new 2021 KX250F and he came over to see it and it was in pieces. Yup, front was off and rear shock out. You will get used to the twitchiness if you just keep putting the hours in. I absolutely hated the WR450 when I first got it but ended up being one of the bikes I regretted getting rid of.

@HippoDrones Жыл бұрын

Great to see you out on the bike after the reveal. That flameout/stalling would do my head in, hope you can sort it. Heard some KTM's suffer with it as well. Kinda glad my Beta has never been an issue for it. I think you need to give it some more saddle time and maybe soften the suspension a little before deciding if it is the right bike or not, being so different from your other bikes will need some dial in time. Am assuming you are running offroad pressures in the tyres? Could go to TuBliss with it maybe as well, I am really impressed with it on my Beta.

@ronkoorbaes4864 Жыл бұрын

I bought one of these when they first came out. I bought everything for it including a vortex, yosh exhaust, throttle tamer, 3 teeth bigger rear sprocket, seat concepts seat, gas tank, you name it. Was just never happy with it. Happiest day was the day I sold it. If you’re going to keep it, vortex and yosh exhaust with bigger rear sprocket will help a lot.

@captainamerica9353 Жыл бұрын

The stock 13 /51 gearing isn't short enough? You could always buy a Trials bike.

@stephenmitchum5864 Жыл бұрын

I tried so hard to love my 450L, Vortex, full FMF, and everything else that all the cool kids say it needs and it sure ran better. Although you will never over come the weight no matter what you do so I went back to a white KTM.

@puppyrage6258 Жыл бұрын

From factory the idle is adjusted far too low. Turn it up a bit and flameouts are almost completely cured. Its still jerky due to the ecu but an easy flame out cure.

@markflaugh2293 Жыл бұрын

Go to Taco Moto and get the things they recommend, the fly wheel weight, ecu, throttle tamer and Recluse maybe. Definitely a seat concepts seat. Don’t give up on this bike. I think with the full subframe and we know you like too overpack this will make a great BDR slayer. Glad to see dual sports back ob the channel.

@mattsloop2736 Жыл бұрын

It's sad for the price they are asking it needs this much to make it good tho.

@markflaugh2293 Жыл бұрын

@@mattsloop2736 It does but with these high strung dirt bikes converted to dual purpose bikes and emissions that’s what you have to do to get them where you want them, no matter the color of bike. We still win getting these legal plated bikes to buy.

@jctoth Жыл бұрын

@@mattsloop2736 it's $3000 less than a 500EXC-F. People are buying that bike and still doing ECU, Rekluse, Seat Concepts, etc, etc...

@mattsloop2736 Жыл бұрын

@@jctoth yep. People will buy anything and mod it for power and performance lol.

@captainamerica9353 Жыл бұрын

@@mattsloop2736 , but opinions vary a lot. Some say they just need a pipe, or just an ecu. Or only a throttle tamer. Lately I see more comments that they need a full break in, say a 1,000 miles, and most of the issues are gone. But I agree for the money they should be more refined out of the box.

@davidpoffenbarger3686 Жыл бұрын

Good vid Ben, as always. The throttle tamer will help a lot. I put one on my 500EXC when I first got it and it calmed it down at "off idle" riding. Also, the 450, being a converted motocrosser is way more sensitive to suspension set up. The sag being to much can really make the front end vague and it's worse if you sit down. Being a bigger guy too, I know the benefit of respringing it as it probably comes set up for a 160 lb rider. We used to add flywheel weights to our converted MX trail bikes but that wasn't an option for my KTM, so I added a clutch weight. Also helps with low RPM control. People cringe when I say there's a lot about my old DRZ over my KTM I really liked for dual sport riding. I think you'll see what I mean after a few rides. Stick with it, sort out the gremlins and you'll love it. I'm easing my KTM over to an "adventure light" bike as well for more BDR stuff riding solo. There's lots of good info out there and you've got a great team around you so I know it will be awesome.... Keep up the good work!

@michaelorhan1842 Жыл бұрын

Throttle tamer makes a huge difference! 👍

@markwheat2668 Жыл бұрын

Check the torque on the bolts on the lower triple clamp for your forks, too tight will cause the fork tube to pinch the inner fork tube. Check the air pressure bleed screws on top of the forks. Set the preload on the springs. It should be smoother ride I would focus on the suspension big time! Again check the manual for your correct torques for the front forks. The guys that asse.ble the bikes can over tighten those bolts easily and cause them to bind. Also all the rear suspension linkage should be greased right away, steering stem too. They put just a light coat of grease on those bearings, work some good bel ray or maxima grease into them. Or pay hundreds and the tears of rusted to hell hundreds of dollars! Miss riding in Oregon! Cheaper life in Minnesota on a lake!

@michaelahr1 Жыл бұрын

450 is too much for most, 350 is the sweet spot and the majority would be best on a 250. I started on a 250 4 stroke which taught me good clutch technique and i moved up stage by stage on motors and now comfortably ride a 300 2 stroke but it was progressive not just jumping on the most powerful bike. You on the 450 reminds me of when you started on the Africa Twin IMO. Love what ya do and hope it all works out on the 450.

@jamesofgant6723 Жыл бұрын

I watch all your videos

@rw9874 Жыл бұрын

I have a 22' RL @2500 miles. Before you put the throttle tamer on reroute the throttle cable (unbunch it from the fork tube brackets. Costs nothing but helps or get the 450x cable which is shorter). I went with a power commander and that helped alot at half the price of the vortex. It breaks in around 1500 miles. Stick with it and riding a gear higher always helps.

@theninja001 Жыл бұрын

Now you know why so many people sell them with so few miles!

@IRQ1Conflict Жыл бұрын

Too much bike for you? Nah! You'll grow into it. Like the saying goes, better to have too much than not enough.

@Crittermoto Жыл бұрын

I hope this works out for ya cuz I’m looking forward to the BDR Slayer build 👍🏻 I looked at one new and after a lengthy discussion with my local salesman and shop owner….we all decided that the 250L was better suited for what I do. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@SlowEddie Жыл бұрын

Same bro. Made me look at the CRF300L in a different light.

@acebenedicto3189 Жыл бұрын

HELL YEAH DORK!

@jctoth Жыл бұрын

Great video. I've been on the CRF450RL for over a year now and it can be a handful on singletrack. It is my unicorn bike. Three suggestions if you want to do singletrack on this bike. First: Vortex ECU running map 1. Secondly: Steahly flywheel weight. Third: Rekluse auto clutch. No exaggeration... in this configuration I cannot get the bike to flameout or stall. You can rip it like a MX bike or put it in a gear taller and just putt up, over, and through anything while Rekluse handles all the clutch work. The beauty of this machine is that you can set it up for Your riding style.

@JohnnyBoy919 Жыл бұрын

What year is your bike and how many miles do you have? Have you tried raising the idle?

@jctoth Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 it's a 2022 model with currently 10,400 miles on it. I bought it new in July of 2021. I know I ride a lot 🙂 I have my idle set to 1850 rpms. I have no need to raise it as it never flames out in with the Vortex and Rekluse. Proper TPS calibration with the Vortex is just as important as the correct idle speed in eliminating flame outs.

@JohnnyBoy919 Жыл бұрын

@@jctoth Well your idle is set to where it should be. According to the manual it should be set at 1800 +/- 100 rpm. Did you end up raising it to that or did it come that way? Reason I'm asking is I'm wondering if just adjusting the idle to where it should be would fix the flameout issues without having to do the other stuff. I always try to do 1 thing at a time to see if it fixes rather than multiple things at once.

@jctoth Жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyBoy919 it was def something less than that. I remember after purchasing the tach I had to raise the idle speed a couple of clicks to get it where it should be. Idle speed is very important in preventing flameouts on 4 strokes. I've even heard of some guys taking it 100 rpms above the factory recommendation for added assurance although I never found that necessary with the Rekluse.

@JohnnyBoy919 Жыл бұрын

@@jctoth that's good to know, I've heard of people raising their idles to 1900/2000 rpm as well.

@joseaklx300r6 Жыл бұрын

I used to have a 250L got stolen last year i went and i got an kawi 300r i fricking love it im 45 yrs old and i love how nimble is the kawi

@AKAOmnivore Жыл бұрын

Assuming you have the 3x3 and jet mod on the DRZ it should have the exact same hp/tq of the CRF. The vibration in your voice was clearly audible, and I assume it's because your CRF suspension is was stiffer than the DRZ will ever be, but you can certainly soften the CRF up by adjustment. I kinda prefer less stiff, but not squishy lol :-) For me, the flame out would drive me nuts. Its hard enough staying on single track without that in the back of your mind, but i'm sure there is a fix for it, whether aftermarket power commander or what ever. Keep it light ;-)

@TheHoovercm Жыл бұрын

Sorry that was somewhat disappointing for a first time out. But it demonstrated why I've held off buying one even though I 'love' the bike. Still having a hard time knowing I got to put another $2K into whatever 'good deal' I find to make it what I hope it to be in the end. One thing you didn't mention that I have seen on another youtube video with this bike was the person talked about it overheating in technical single track riding. And would actually cut off and was hard to start back until it cooled off somewhat. They demonstrated that in their video. So that was another concern. Great luck to you going forward and hope it all gets sorted. Watching with interest as your experience will no doubt sway some of us one way or the other on taking a chance with this bike or not. 😀

@soilsmanadv6673 Жыл бұрын

As you get better at the clutch and less stressed by the difference in rpm from the drz, it will be less stressful.

@ronnynelsonmasterarborist Жыл бұрын

Get the Rekluse CX plus ECU mod and you won’t have any of the performance issues. D606 tires are great too. I actually still have a Power Commander V and it does fine for me. Extra power but does pop a little. Not bad though. Exhaust is cool, I got the Yoshi full system.

@annjessup1670 Жыл бұрын

This would be fun on my Specialized e-bike!

@smacktalk2753 Жыл бұрын

Should've got you a gen 1 klr instead. Just kidding, love your insight and logic.

@marknagel4418 Жыл бұрын

Looks fun though on and off road. I wouldn't mind the workout

@SmallShopConcepts Жыл бұрын

have that suspension tuned, the high speed adjuster on the shock needs some work after hearing your voice on the choppy road, may need a spring to personalize it for you and get you at the correct ride height so you aren't too far down in the stroke. and a revalve if the spring is a fairly big rate change to help the rebound settings. I'm a bigger guy myself and found that it truly makes bikes more enjoyable to ride when they are configured just for you. I have some guys in my group that are 140-160lbs and they get by great on stock setup.. its incentive for me to get in better shape.. but along the way suspension will change your riding world when you have someone who truly knows what they are doing set it up for you.

@mikeisland7382 Жыл бұрын

Stock tires aren't a knobby but are a pretty decent dual sport tire IMO. Don't blame them for you taking a bad bounce. To add dual sport versatility to the L check out Red Matt's mod, Nomad tanks, Radius X and Tubliss. Combined with your throttle tamer and seat you ordered you'll have the best dual sport available.

@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

I rode with these tires for a year on my 250l. I'm very familiar with their limitations.

@sumorider Жыл бұрын

Great vid! I would love to ride one, but funnily enough, this bike isn’t available here in the Japanese market.

@Mclovingarage Жыл бұрын

Hopefully with a tuner that flameout issue goes away. I had the same issue with one I test rode a few months ago. The other thing that might be nice to add to that bike might be a Scott’s Steering Stabilizer. Should take a lot of that twitcheness out of the front end.

@grant31781 Жыл бұрын

I miss the power but I don't miss the flameouts in the tight woods and slow riding like in grown up fire breaks or the lousy fuel mileage. I had a JD tuner and FMF Q4 on my bike. The flameouts were unpredictable and always seemed to happen at the worst timing. The stock front tire is dangerous. I had it washout on wet leaves in my yard. The KLX230 I have now is a tractor. No flameouts and will run down to a stupid slow rpm with no clutch work needed. The suspension and power and lacking compared to the 450 but it weights the same and feels lighter. I would love a big bore dual sport with the characteristics.

@is2good4u Жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you for sharing. I'm curious how you loaded and unloaded that bike from the bed of your Tundra.

@Huskydog-zl9bm Жыл бұрын

Expensive options but both will make the bike 100% better a Recluse clutch and an after market ECU like a Vortex

@heynow3788 Жыл бұрын

Throttle tamer, flywheel weight, a bigger rear sprocket, and 1500 miles smoothed mine right out.

@user-dv7hb2sc9m 2 ай бұрын

I've only just leaned about this bike & I guess what I like is the ability to be on the highway @ 70mph but people say it gets blown around a lot? But more that the 250cc 's? She's tall for me but I do like being able to hang w/ traffic. TY for the vid!

@SWTrailsAndWheels Жыл бұрын

Playing the flameout drinking game. Have a nice buzz going....hope I don't die from alcohol poisoning by the end of the video...

@cyclematiccomplexity3018 Жыл бұрын

Keep the DRZ! :)

@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

already sold, sadly :(

@cyclematiccomplexity3018 Жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad Totally understandable as you need to keep up the content, she will be missed :) Looking forward to you documenting the 450L journey...

@KingFriday274 Жыл бұрын

I just bought a 2022 yz250fx from power motorsports. I told them credit you the sale.

@Taematoe Жыл бұрын

Shot gun creek? Didn't realize you where in my area. Lol. Fun.

@samueljlarson Жыл бұрын

I thought you might have wanted to get a WR250R after your ride/ review recently. Agree with your review of it btw and wishing I still had mine but I sold it because I got used to the power and it was so reliable, it was boring in a way lol.

@c0ck_l2oach75 Жыл бұрын

A 450L isn't what most dual sporters expect. It doesn't like to chug or crawl around at a casual pace. It wants to roost and burn corners and test your limits especially once uncorked. I currently own a 22 450RL and have watched your channel and riding style for a couple years now. I bet the Drz overall will be a better fit for you then what the 450L offers up. Time will tell and stay with it if you are unsure. Seat time builds confidence more anything.

@johnperkins5450 Жыл бұрын

Love the videos - thanks! 👍🏼🏍. I’ve bought some stuff through your links to help the cause. 💰 A suggestion, try to get a direct affiliate link for 10% off to Get Out Gear. I have seen this elsewhere. It makes the the blanket cheaper than Amazon, and they do not collect sales tax for my state. Might be a win for all. Thanks again. Happy Riding.

@ADV_Agenda Жыл бұрын

I recommend a Reklus clutch for that rascal

@Motokids13 11 ай бұрын

Didn't really know what you meant by twitchy until I got one. Now i sure understand. Even with the vortex its very twitchy imo.

@bryanreilly4117 Жыл бұрын

Man wish you were closer to the easy coast haha. Looking for a second bike to pair with my versys to hit the mabdr or nebdr. Eying a dr400 or maybe the crf but probably to heavy with gear for that to handle

@DaveP92329 Жыл бұрын

Did (would?) you ever consider a Beta 390RRS. Good suspension, not twitchy, no flame-outs, no huge yank on/off throttle, smooth progressive power delivery, 25 pounds lighter, no need for ridiculous modifications (KTM, Husky, HONDA!). Great bike. Had KTM and wouldn't go back.

@MarioReinhardt2525 Жыл бұрын

Love mine! Wish it had longer service intervals but otherwise, pretty perfect.

@railduke68 Жыл бұрын

A Vortex and Yoshimura exhaust transforms the bike. San Diego Powersports desmog is worthwhile as well.

@toltod Жыл бұрын

Yeah, my brother's crf450x and my Husky501. Got to compare them Back to back...have to say my 501 is so much easier to ride and less flame out. Still that Honda had scary torque.....definately more ready to race with a powerband. And yes that crf liked to flame out....there may be some relief with sprocket swaps for slower trail riding.

@joeybobbie1 Жыл бұрын

Great Video. Hopefully the Flameouts will stop once the Engine gets broken in. What does the Throttle Mod do? Does the Suspension have any adjustments on the Dampening? Hopefully you will be able to get all the Kinks out and with the New Tires have it where you want it. Thanks for the Video, I have been interested in the 450 for a while.👍

@captainamerica9353 Жыл бұрын

Hi, just letting you know that you've got a sticky Caps Lock key.

@ridingwithmrP Жыл бұрын

Its hard to stop the flame outs for the simple reason the flywheel is to light, rekluse is a game changer but bloody expensive 🙄🙂

@JohnnyBoy919 Жыл бұрын

You should have gotten the 2021+ model year of the crf450rl. I never buy first year models. I'd rather wait for them to work out the issues. The 2021 model got new ecu and updated tuning on the fuel injection settings. I heard alot of the crf450ls left dealerships with the idle set too low, so raising that helped with the flameouts. Also the more miles you put on I'm sure the better it gets.

@cdbcalvary Жыл бұрын

Did you turn your idle up? Before I got my vortex I turned it up to about 2k. That helped. G2 as well. Also, it's gets better with miles.

@lukefish7562 Жыл бұрын

I have a 21 450RL and love it. Enjoy! Be interested to hear what you think! And yeah after trying to make it a technical woods bike it does not like slow speeds. Dirt roads and trails for me and it. And no ecu change here.

@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

Glad you're loving it!

@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering Жыл бұрын

@Dorkintheroad Hey Ben, I'm not sure where to ask you this question, so I'll post it here, and hope you see it: Which of the motorcycles you've owned or tested, would be cable of riding two-up AND hauling all of your needed camping gear? I dont have my ADV bike, yet, but my intent is the Africa Twin, when I have the money. My concern is total weight of me and my wife plus all the gear. Thanks in advance, love the channel!

@busasteve3871 Жыл бұрын

Get the mods and tires it is much better but still powerful. Adjust and dial in your suspension it will reward you. Give a good try after that and see what your opinion is mine changed quite a bit after changes I made the flame out is real

@stoplogicmotorsports Жыл бұрын

Oh I know the feeling on this bike I'm at the back end of a 4 week recovery thanks to a stall on a Jump. The crf450rl demands blood sacrifice

@DorkintheRoad Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that, man. That's scary.

@stoplogicmotorsports Жыл бұрын

@@DorkintheRoad sometimes you get the bear sometimes it gets you. I still think the bike has potential to be great but the ECU did not solely cure flame out so I am pairing the aim ecu with a rekluse radius cx. I am excited to see how you end up gelling with the bike and the direction you take it. Then again I might be using my crf450rl not for its intended use lol.

@SWTrailsAndWheels Жыл бұрын

My high performance WR250F with GYTR ECU has a similar warmup knob but I haven't had to use it in any conditions, hot, cold, high elevation, mid elevation....

@johnniewade6504 Жыл бұрын

Bad as s. I want one . Awe I'm to old 57. Years. Looks like fun thought

@a2bmoto Жыл бұрын

Completely different bike, but my fz07 had similar "engine braking". Super harsh off throttle decel and yeah it was because of emissions...got that tuned out quickly lol.