I had to look up what affable meant :) thank you for the compliment Anand!! That's very kind of you.

@@NemoPropaganda Pleasure ! ,you can always write to me if you have something to sell anandemirates@gmail.com

@@Anand.Asrani I'll probably just post it on the YT community page :)

Me too! That's why i bought them lol. I wouldn't worry about the 816 vs 826 unless you won't be running a subwoofer. If you're not running a sub then yeah the 826 would have been a better choice. But we all make mistakes in this hobby, god knows I've made a ton!

@@NemoPropaganda i just bought 826s , my amp is marantz pm7000n but the bass is so weak, i can't listen without my sub Dali k14f . I don't listen loud , low to mid level max.however in my room 25m2 i have very weak bass from choras.is it my amp so weak for choras?

@@fluxcapacitor3273 Hey bro, I'm not sure honestly because I have not heard the towers nor that amp :(. If you have a subwoofer thought doesn't that solve the problem? You can also try using the tone controls a bit to get a fuller overall sound, maybe try +2 on the bass.

My friend has the Chora 906 so I might be able to finagle him into letting me borrow them :D Yeah if someone is after detail without being overbearing the Chora is seriously hard to beat.

My speakers are in front of my rack and my front wall is treated so I'm not sure if it will make a big difference for me honestly, plus I love my rack :D. Yeah the added cost of stands are a bummer but that's always the case with bookshelf speakers so for someone who has nothing it's okay but for guys that already have stands it's kind of annoying. What speakers did you end up getting instead?

@@NemoPropaganda I had the Buchartd S400 but they were kind of an eye sore. So I went with the 806 (home trial). I ended with Klipsch Heresy 4. (They look and sound great in my living room) looking back. The 806 are good enough...I should have kept them.

@@Staybrown11 ah yes the S400 and Klipsch Heresy 4 are totally different looks indeed. Personally I love the modern look but if the room itself is not modern/Scandinavian it could certainly be odd looking in the mix. The Klipsch Heresy 4 are great from what I've heard, congrats on finding a speaker you're happy with. That's the ultimate goal :)

Excellent choice and an amazing deal!!

@@NemoPropaganda yea man!! I’m excited. They arrive tomorrow. Great review and thank you for your perspective.

@@abxaudiophiles if ur in the free discord you should post some pics :) link is in all my newer video descriptions.

you're probably turning up the volume for the dynamics. Focal is really good at giving you killer low volume dynamics :D

@@NemoPropaganda thanks Nemo! I learnt something new again. so this is what strong dynamics mean!

@@WHo-vf1oz yeah like normally speakers sound kind of dull or flat at low volume so people turn it up, but they don’t always want loud. They want what loud does which is more detail, sense of scale, and dynamics. Focal gives you that at lower volumes which is very nice.

The Aria 906 are beautiful speakers, I'm jealous :)

Hell yeah brother, I'm happy they were a win for you!!

Thank you brother

Have you tried the 706 with movies?

@@kman9387 I havn't herad the 706 but I did use the Chora for movies if that's what you meant :).

@@NemoPropaganda yes, as I have been wanting to upgrade my LCR to a larger focal line. I see in the comments that Paul presley Jr bought the 706 for a great deal and was wondering how to find them. I see that you have mentioned that you sell some equipment? Any Focal LCR's available? Or bookshelf? Thanks in advance for your help 👍

okay, sorry, i will move that to the top of my list :D

Yeah they certainly are a bit tall, not a desktop speaker, that's for sure.

Thanks for your comment. I don't have a lot of watts. Do you think these speakers are power hungry?

@@robertmarshall7712 no, total opposite, they are very easy to drive!

@@NemoPropaganda Great! One more question for you: my room is not small but can't afford much space from wall behind the speakers, max 12 inches. How would this be?

@@robertmarshall7712 that's a good amount of space, I think they will sound lovely.

Thank you Risandi, I havn't heard that amp but I have heard people say Focal & Naim is a good pairing.

Hey dude! Love your screen name! So the Chora it's really going to come down to equipment and the room, some people may not be able to listen to them for hours, especially if the room or associated gear is lively. If you like longer listening sessions like I do (2+ hours) a smoother speaker like the S400 by Buchardt would be ideal and you won't even need a subwoofer as they extend even lower than the T5i so if your budget was enough for the Chora plus a sub I would maybe just go for the Buchardt S400 and no sub, i can listen to them for 3+ hours easily and love them.

If you're dead set on using the Chora with a sub I would pick the HT-1003 instead of the T5i as it extends lower and I like low bass a lot.

@@NemoPropaganda fortunately/unfortunately I've already purchased the the RELL t5i several months ago so it's here to stay! I'm also shopping for the right 2-channel amp or integrated amp depending on whether if I go with the ARCAM avr20 receiver and possibly the matching ARCAM pa410 4-channel power amp because if you click on the cat you shall see that I also have a full Atmos setup!

@@awwbollocksthen1359 well the t5i is a fine piece so no loss their either way :) I'm not too well versed in HT setups, have you seen sparechange? His content is all HT and he knows a ton!

@@NemoPropaganda cheers Nemo

The REL HT-1205 was the best match for the Chora 806 when I had them, I'd imagine the smaller HT-1003 will also be an excellent match if you need a pair of something smaller.

Check out the 3000 micro from SVS

Great review ! Thank you. I've a pair of them and I'm currently planing to get a sub from REL. How about T-ZERO MK III ? (I've watched your review on that too) Do you think T-ZERO would be a good match for 806s ? I'm using 806s in a 13 sq meter room and mainly for music. I'd appreciate your answer 🙏

Hey Leroy, I would say no. Nothing really sounds like a ribbon tweeter except a ribbon tweeter really, they have this characteristic to them that's hard to describe but to my ears it's like this: Even when the sound is sharp or bright the leading edge of the sound is still soft. It's almost like they have a mix of smooth & sharp characteristics where dome tweeters do not. Smoother speakers like the Buchardt S400 generally will be closer to sounding like a ribbon tweeter in terms of delivery but even still will not have that sharp delivery at the crescendo. I like ribbon tweeters but I feel they never integrate properly, I can always hear a disconnect even on $20+k speakers, I think i might just be sensitive to that range of sound perhaps. It's a shame as i really do love the sound.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for your reply and insights.

@@Audioloon anytime :)

It would be an expensive rear/side speaker but they do project very well and have tons of sparkle & detail which is exactly what you want in an HT environment. I think these would be very good for that purpose and that would be an awesome HT setup, your stage will be absolutely massive :D

That's an excellent choice, loads of detail!!

@@NemoPropaganda waiting for them to arrive.... listened to them at my local store thought they were amazing. Had better imaging than B&Ws I listened to that day too.

@@Paranimal86 Oh yeah, the Chora image well, it's one of those speakers I'm surprised isn't talked about more, it was one of the biggest surprises for me when I reviewed it.

@@NemoPropaganda their tweeter design really impressed me because the speakers were detailed without being fatiguing or harsh... hard to explain but I think you nailed it in this review they just sounded airy and detailed. I played a wide range of music on them, and was just overall really impressed. I think at the price point of the 826 towers give many more expensive speakers a run for their money. Like I said it outperformed other speakers in many ways and impressed me more that were more expensive. Can’t wait for them to arrive, I guess these speakers have bit of a break in period. Hope to have them this week! 7 to 10 days according to my speaker shop. I hope they do become more popular, all I ever see is Klipsch in the home theater forums, these will make for some fantastic home theater speakers and music listening. I’m about 50/50... I upgraded my front stage with the Choras, I’ll do my surrounds next. When I listen to music I do pure stereo plus my subs.

@@Paranimal86 Honestly mine didn't break-in or change one bit. I did buy them second hand but the previous owner was a friend who only put about 5-6 hours on them. I say just hook them up and start enjoying them :)

I have not but a local audio-friend has offered to loan me his BR02 and Genese so maybe I will review those soon :)

I'd go for the Chora or Polk R100, Elac is overhyped IMO and not the giant killer everyone claims it to be. Polk is the warmer while Focal is the more detailed and refined.

@@NemoPropaganda thanks for the feedback !!

Most people do different buy stick with the same brand so the sound profile is similar but you don't have to. For example if your budget does not allow it or the brand doesn't offer matching surrounds.

The Gold 100 are more than double the price, I don't think that would be a fair comparison. You should be looking at silver 100 vs chora or gold 100 vs Aria.

@@NemoPropaganda Yeah I got the Silver8s I love them but using them for home theater now and want some stand mounts for a small bedroom playing at low volumes. Just hard to audition anything right now 🙂

@@soopy1975 Ah I see, it's been awhile since I've heard the MA Gold speakers so I can't really comment on them with any confidence but I know for sure the Focal Chora is a low volume champion so I would save my money and go with that.

I havn't heard any Cambridge gear but most likely it will sound good, just not as good as the Chora could sound with say a $1000+ amp. Honestly though I don't have that many data points with amplifiers.

@@NemoPropaganda I really appreciate that you reply to every comment. Thanks a lot! The cambridge cxa81 amp that I have in my mind is $1299 though.

@@fenriz7421 you got it bro! Yeah, I don't know for sure because the $1k territory seems to be an odd one with lots of mixed opinions. If I was in that range I would look at AudioLab or Musical Fidelity but I havn't heard either, just seems people really liking those for that $1000-$1500 range. If you're looking for the best sound in a purist piece I would look to the Odyssey Audio Cyclops Integrated amplifier and make sure to add the remote option as well as any other inputs and outputs you want, they're kind of a custom piece and start at $1095.

@@NemoPropaganda Music Fidelity M3si would suit me because it has USB-B port DAC as all my sources are in my laptop. That's $2100 though in where I live... For that price I have something crazy in my already... Advanced Paris A10 Classic Hybrid tube amp! But don't think I would go that far. As for Odyssey not available here. Thanks again for reply! You da man!

@@fenriz7421 Odyssey Cyclops then :)

4 screws on the bottom.

Yes I did, it was still very good, naturally more expensive amps like my reference gear will have more control, texture, etc... But for around $500 the IotaVX is easily among the best options.

I have not, Focal does not send me review samples or respond to my emails requesting review samples and I am no longer willing to spend my own money to give them free publicity.

yeah I hate that denon amp, ummm I'd go for IotaVX for the Chora or just get different speakers, Focal might not be for you. Try to demo polk reserve or dynaudio emit 10

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks a lot lot for your reply! I would like to upgrade/adapt my amp first. Iota Vx put aside, it will be very kind if you had other propositions for a more laidback amps (kind of sweet V curve) than my SMSL Class D to tame a bit the forwardness in mids of my 806. Thanks again and long life to your channel!!! Happy New Year!!! Peace

@@piktosonik7669 then I think the safest option is just to make sure the amp you buy has tone controls so you can turn the treble down a bit or buy a dac that smooths things out a bit like Ares2. I don't like V curve sound myself so I can't really help you find amps like that because I am not familiar with them. Try reaching out to thomas & stereo, he's the v curve man.

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you very much for your answer!

Yes! The app says 4 degrees on the dot :)

@@NemoPropaganda thank you so much!

Thanks for the information man.

All good bro i don’t mind. The Yamaha AS301 has digital inputs but at $350 i’d rather step up to $400 and grab the Emotiva TA-100 since it has pre-outs.

Hi bro, I havn't heard any musical fidelity amps so I can't really say. The Chora is mostly neutral, low vol champ, detail focused, it's a great speaker and if you're getting it around $500/pair on the used market or less that's a great deal. If you enjoy the analytical sound I say go for it!

@@NemoPropaganda thanks for taking the time to reply, man! Super insightful!

Hey Porkchop! Hope you're doing well my man. So that's entirely going to depend on which unit has the better internal DAC (the cd player or the Yamaha) and unfortunately the only way to know is by experimentation. A long time ago I had a Phillips CD player and integrated amp and I found the amp had a better dac than the CD player but other friends had the opposite experience. An easy way to avoid all this is just grab whatever CD player you want and if you don't like the sound you can add an external dac like the Schiit Modi which should be better than both internal dacs.

@@NemoPropaganda i c

Imaging and soundstage are some of the best I have heard, absolutely incredible. But for the best imaging the matching stand is a must! The only downside I failed to mention is with all that detail poor recordings will be somewhat obvious. But average recordings are fine :)

@@NemoPropaganda thanks!!

@@net_news glad I could help :)

mmm, different sounds, the Dynaudio was a little warmer and fuller in the midrange while the Chora was more analytical. Dyn had stronger bass but Chora had cleaner bass. Both really good but very different. If you want something really good but cheaper check out my Heco Aurora 300 review. That was an absolutely fantastic speaker!

I'm going to review the M16 soon but here is my short answer: the M16 and TA-100 are a good combination and the TA-100 and the Focal Chora 806 are also a good combination. The M16 is very different sounding than the Chora. The M16 has great detail like the Chora but warmer from the midrange down to the bass with a pronounced mid bass bump that gives a hard and tactile edge to the sound. Overall the M16 is more grounded with it's imaging and has a fuller size and sense of scale. The downside of the M16 is it's extremely fussy and very room dependent so you really need to have room treatment at least for the first reflection points and spend a lot of time placing the speakers with perfect distance from the walls and things like that. The M16 is a speaker people will either love or hate and it will 100% come down to the room and how they are setup. If you are local to Orange County CA you're welcome to swing by and have a listen.

Thanks for your help and quick reply. Unfortunately I’m in the east coast. Guess I’ll have to just take a few for spin. One more question if your able, do you have any experience with the B&W 606 s2? Please keep the videos coming. You get in quite in depth. I know it’s all subjective but it’s good to have an experienced person point out things to really listen for.

@@DG-oj4zy I have not heard those ones yet :(.

@@NemoPropagandaDo you still have the m16?

@@danielacosta1998 no, I sold them a long time ago to recoup my investment. Since my channel is small I don't get samples from everyone and sometimes have to buy the stuff with my own money.

606 s2 is bass boosted and has bright treble. The Chora is a more balanced sound overall.

@@NemoPropaganda hi thanks for reply I had b&w 602s3 for a long time but the 606 s2 now available and bought a set for £349 they were £599 as s3 has come out , if I had more cash I would consider the 806 or minutes audio 100 silver 7g. As I think r Rotel a11 tribute it has capabilities of having 2 sets of speakers so got old and new ones set up . Regards mark

if you're loving the sound it sounds like you're good. You'd only need a new amp if they weren't getting loud enough, you don't like the sound, or if your current amp doesn't have certain features that you want.

@@NemoPropaganda Got it. I listen mostly on low volume, so the amp is handling it well it seems. By the way, you were correct... low volume champion... 🙂 Your review really helped me for the purchase. Thanks!

@@aleph0909 I'm very happy that it helped you find a speaker you like :)

I don't know much about wharfedale.

Yes I do :) My channel is pretty small so I usually just sell them locally but I was thinking maybe I should start posting about it on my youtube community page so my subscribers get first pick :)

@@NemoPropaganda are you near NY. I would buy from you. Endless you don’t mind shipping. I would cover it.

@@felixlaboy1453 I don't mind shipping, I'm in southern California, the next items I'm selling are the dynaudio m10, B&W asw608 sub, and maybe the revel concerta2 m16, and possibly even the silverline minuet supreme plus as they don't get any use these days. The Chora I'm really loving right now so that's a keeper for now :D

@@NemoPropaganda oh nice gear. What color are the day audio m10

@@felixlaboy1453 I have them in white with the gray grill.

I don't have much experience with amps but I like the Emotiva TA1, IotaVX SA3, Buchardt i150, and Kinki Studio.

@@NemoPropaganda many many many thanks

@@cityscapetour2429 anytime bro! Discord link in newer vids if you want to join. Its free.

@@NemoPropaganda Ok noted. I will

I don't have much experience with vintage products.

Hi jay, I have not heard the lumina II

@@NemoPropaganda oooh alright, thank you!

The Chora 806 has the better top end while the DBR62 has a better midrange and midbass presentation. Overall I'd say they're even so I'd defer to aesthetics and take the Chora for it's better looks and dimensions as I find the DBR62 a bit odd shaped.

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you for your answer :) Which one can listen to it longer I mean smooth sound before go to sleep ?? don't made you tired when listening.

@@Gabbieblues Probably DBR62 but it's VERY close, i can listen to both for hours.

Imagine Mini really shined at higher volumes which was shocking for the size. Imagine Mini was more balanced from top to bottom with stronger and more articulate bass and especially mid bass. Imagine Mini also had stronger imaging. Chora has more detail, larger sound stage, and the best low volume listening I have ever heard. Chora sense of scale is overall larger and it's soundstage is more densely packed with information.

Hey Drew, welcome to the hobby, we have a free discord and the link is in my newest video if you want to join. I have not heard the UBR62 but I did really like the DBR62 so I'm sure it's great. The UBR will need a bit more power to drive properly than the Chora so as long as you have good quality power you should be fine, if not you may prefer the Chora 806 as they are easier to drive and have outstanding low volume performance.

How do you like your elac ubr62?

@@krblgc I really like em! The soundstage, clarity and detail are a lot better than the Klipsch rp6000s they replaced. These speakers are definitely way less fatiguing that the Klipsch as well. The Klipsch only beats them in bass, but they are tower speakers so to be expected.

@@drewpknutz1410 nice. Glad you liked them. I also replaced a klipsch rp-5000f with the UBR62 and so far loving it. I did paired it with a sub. Loving the fact that i can now control bass via the sub.

I have not heard either amp specifically but if I had to guess I think the cambridge would be a better fit.

thanks for your reply! @@NemoPropaganda

I have never heard musical fidelity gear but I think the Chora 806 is a friendly speaker for most amps as long as they are not hash/brittle sounding.

none that do it as well as the Chora do it, except the Focal Aria 906 :D

Rega Kyte , or Dali’s

@@anthonydaley278 I have not heard the Rega Kyte and I have only heard the Dali Oberon 1.

REL & Focal is an awesome mix!! 100% do it!!

The finish is a bit under par considering the price but I see that very often and can say the same for many speakers like the Elac DBR62. These speakers are indeed excellent, they just require proper setup and care with system matching. It sounds like your dealer (and many others) are just upset that they do not have the typical Focal sharp & bright top end sound but that's why I like them.

@@NemoPropaganda I'll listen to them again, because I heard them in a home theater setup, not the best to evaluate the sound.

Ah, yeah some HT amps are crappy, i will admit the bass was disappointing though :(.

@@NemoPropaganda yes the amps were pretty basics, Marantz / Denon. We compared Triangle BR08, Focal Chora 816, Focal 948, BW 603 S2, Klipsch rp260. I was most convinced by the BW and Klipsch. 948 were great but too big 😁

@@guillaumeSONY I'm embarrassed to say this but I still have never heard any Klipsch speaker, like never in my life lol.

wow!!! a fellow XRM owner? I'm shocked, I had the 4.1, absolutely LOVED those speakers and the look was so industrial, it was one of my favorites. Anyhow okay so the XRM was actually extremely good but it cannot compete against something 3x it's price. The Focal Chora will offer up much more detail, imaging, & refinement.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks for the reply! Glad to hear you enjoyed the 4.1, I dig the industrial look too. Fair enough, I'd also expected the Focal Chora to have been incomprable due to the price different, but if I had paid $300 for a used XRM 6.1, would a $600 used Focal Chora be worth as an upgrade? (Assuming they're all in good working condition) And also, this is a bit of a side note but, would the Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2 be worth an upgrade to the XRM 6.1 at $370 in 'like new' condition? Unfortunately these are the only speakers available on the used market where I'm from. Would appreciate your thoughts, and again, thanks for your time!

@@jethrol1731 I reviewed the Elac in my last video if you want to check that out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oq59ddKTvLDTfXU.html to draw your own conclusion but If it were me I certainly would go for the Chora at $600 as that would be a fine upgrade.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks! I also plan to use the speakers primarily w a turntable, if that information is of any use. I'll check out your video right now :) Thanks again for your input and all your content thus far

@@jethrol1731 anytime. Unfortunately I don't have any turn table experience so I can't comment on that.

Probably not, I find the shape very ugly and the price is high too!

@@NemoPropaganda I get it. Personally if they sound good then I don’t care how they look but I actually like the looks. Not that I could afford it but they are only $500 more than what you just reviewed. Lol, in my dream world $500 is not a lot of money but that is why I am pretty sure the KEF LS50 Metas are my dream speakers. In a COVID world while being furloughed, dreams are all I have, Thank you again for the great and helpful content. If I win money in the lottery, I will loan you a pair of Metas to review and a blindfold so you don’t have to look at them. Is it bad I made myself laugh at the blindfold bit?

@@davdidit6 A wise man once told me if you can't make yourself laugh you're not living :D. Yes they are only $500 more than what I reviewed today but since I spend my own money for this channel I can't really afford to take requests unless it's something I'm personally curious about :)

@@NemoPropaganda my bad, maybe I missed it, I thought some times you got review samples. Thank you again.

I do sometimes but most of the stuff i’m buying :D

Seems to be 4° based on a cellphone app i used that measured my walls flat at 0° so that should be pretty accurate.

oooof, this is hard, both can become harsh with the wrong equipment, if upstream gear is bright, lacks refinement, etc... then either speaker will come across as bright/harsh. The Wharfedale is the most picky. You really have to work hard to get the Wharfedale to sound good and you better be sitting in the perfect spot but if you can get them to sound good they are awesome!!! The chora on the other hand is pretty easy. F12SE is a wonderful option.

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you brother! You are the best!

They're both equally good, I prefer the Chora 806 but I wouldn't say its better. M16 is the warmer, Focal is the more analytical. The M16 is also built better. Personal taste will be the biggest factor.

Hey Roberto, that's a tough question to answer. In my opinion and for my taste yes. I listen to metal, edm, and pop music so I have very diverse taste and never felt that these speakers were lacking in any way. But I did use them with a subwoofer mostly. REL T5X pair or a single REL HT-1205 were an absolutely fantastic match!

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you Nemo, you make me happy! 😃

Strongly agree, the bass performance is a rather serious let down at $990/pair. Granted I did have them pulled out 2.5ft from the rear wall but you need to do that to get the performance I refer to in the review.

@@NemoPropaganda lucky for me (if you can even call that luck) I need to sort out my subwoofer issue before I can even think about upgrading anything else. Keeping a close watch to see if any other budget sub in the under $600 price range overthrows the rythmik L12 as time progresses.

Speedwoofer 10S is the only real hopeful. I think a REL HT1003 would match your setup really well though.

@@NemoPropaganda I've learned from Donald Trump's mistakes. I'm giving it time and waiting for all the results to come in this year before I claim the REL as victorious lol.

@@yamafanboy ahaha, fair enough my man.

Focal makes great stuff, it's a bit over priced in the US these days but it's a great sound.

@@NemoPropagandathx for reply, there will be something on that , I can have a bit of bias because of some that speak about their brightness, which they consider to be bed thing, but why it shuld be by the rule, many as you say exactly oposite that it is amazing sound. I am now thinking about to give them audition

@@janulik9535 bright isn't bad, a lot of people like the brighter sound :)

budget?

yes... less than 1500 dollars per pair... @@NemoPropaganda

@@kaybhee6 Dynaudio EMIT, Heco Celan, Focal Aria 906 (depending on region),

I don't know, I don't do nearfield and these are discontinued now.

I’m not super familiar with the topic but I have noticed some speakers sound better raked back around 4-5°.

around that price I would go for the IotaVX SA3 or Emotiva TA1.

@@NemoPropaganda from where I'm from those ones cost 2-3x as much as the Marantz. I was wondering if they would sound ok right against the wall like only 4-6 inches? Thank you!

@@LisaL. yes, the speaker is front proted so you can use it close to a wall.

@@NemoPropaganda Thank you!

4 or 5, I can't remember. They're discontinued now anyway.

which focal, which elac?

Mmmm, you're not wrong but you could also pair these with an amp that's rolled off a bit or highly refined and they'd sound great for rock so it's more the system overall. I listen to plenty of metal but my amps top end is extremely refined so I didn't have any issues with the top end. I honestly don't know what speakers would be good with bad recordings since I don't listen to too much poorly recorded stuff. Sorry I can't be more helpful here my man...

great deal!

I emailed them for a review sample, just waiting to hear back.

yeah, Focal bookshelves are not known for strong bass, more clean & light bass.

@@NemoPropaganda any ideas how I can improve this without going down the subwoofer route.

@@gabiosis You can experiment with moving them back against the wall more, at some point imaging will suffer but try moving them into the corners little by little, once you start to lose imaging or staging pull them slightly forward and stop there. If that's not enough just use tone controls and crank up that bass!

In the video I do answer the question "should current Chora owners upgrade" and the answer is meh... if you can buy the Aria at a good price on the used market then yes, otherwise no because the Chora is fantastic. A lot of the difference you're paying for is cosmetic.

@@NemoPropaganda Great!! thanks thanks

Just one more question, I can get the books but the stands are not avalaible here, do they make a lot of difference? I have a pair o good stands filled with sand but I wont be able to tilt the speakers back , is it a night day difference? thanks in advance

@@rafaelalberto5051 Really? Where are you located? So the stands while they help the difference is very minor and they should really only be bought if you like the way they look as you can simply tilt yours back 4-5 degrees to accomplish the same thing. Do keep in mind you'll need them to be lower to the ground to get the same effect as the Chora stands are 22" high.

@@NemoPropaganda Good explanation, thanks, I am from Argentina lol so you can imagine we dont have a lot of brands you usually review for instance: no triangle borea, no elacs, wharfadales just in pictures haha and the subwoofers you are currently reviewing cost a fortune here if you happen to find one, for the price of a relatively good quality subwoofer I can get dynaudio evoke 20 for instance and I will have extra money to spend in another gear, there is a rel t9i here and for that money I can get four pairs of these focals or two pairs of kef ls50 (four bookshelves) for you to have an idea

I agree but you could always put a small piece of isolation foam underneath the front of the speaker to accomplish the same thing with other stands so since the solution is easy enough I'd say it's not a deal breaker but they should have at minimum included something like that, just a small wedge would have been very cheap and easy to include in the box.