Ford 460 Engine Build On A Budget Part 1 - Horsepower S13, E4
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5 жыл бұрынOn this episode of Horsepower, the team sets out to build a classic Ford 460 Big Block on a rock bottom budget. The Ford 460 engine build starts out with a junkyard 385 series engine, which was Ford's final big block V8 engine design. Because these engines were sold from model year 1968 to 1996/7, these engines are plentiful and fairly cheap. The Horsepower team picked up theirs for only $200.
Part 1 - • Ford 460 Engine Build ...
Part 2 - • Ford 460 Engine Build ...
Part 3 - • Ford 460 Engine Build ...
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE
Comp Cams: High Energy Hydraulic Flat Tappet Camshaft, Hydraulic-Good cam for everyday performance driving or heavy towing with low gears. Broad power, noticeable idle, 268H, Complete K-Kit, includes lifters, springs, retainers, seals, locks, and timing set.
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Dupli-Color: Dupli-Color Engine Enamel with Ceramic, Ford Blue and Aluminum.
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Flowtech: '80-'87 Ford F100/150/250 2WD: 429-460, '83-'87 F250/350: 460, Tube Size 1.75", Collector Size 3", Black High Temp Paint.
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Jones Machine Racing Products, Inc.: SB Ford alternator and water pump radius tooth belt drive system,includes 140 amp single wire alternator.
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K&N: Carbon fiber universal air filter
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Loctite: Sealants and Thread locking Compounds
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Lokar: Black under dash emergency brake handle.
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Pertronix: Ignitor breaker points conversion, replaces breaker point and troublesome factory electronic ignitions with a dependable, self contained and maintenance free electronic ignition system. Flame-Thrower coil, while it is the perfect coil to go with the PerTronix Ignitor breakerless ignition, our Flame-Thrower canister coil can benefit virtually any distributor type inductive system.
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QA1: Mustang Pro-Active system includes tubular K-member, caster/camber plates, Mustang struts, coil-over kits with springs, tubular control arms, bump steer kit.
More Info: pntv.us/pb_pt_6652
Summit Racing: Carburetor, Summit, 750 cfm, Square Bore, 4-Barrel, Manual Choke, Mechanical Secondary.
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Summit Racing: Harwood 6" Cowl fiberglass lift-off hood and fasteners
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Summit Racing: Lokar floor mount gas pedal, pedal kit,60 inch throttle cable
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Summit Racing: Billet Specialities 15 X 12, 5 X 4.5" Street Lite, 15 x 6, 5 x 4.5" Street Lite,Summit open end lugs 1/2"
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Auto Custom Carpets INC.: 1992 Ford Mustang Hatchback Carpet Set Complete, 801 BLACK CUTPILE
Hellion Power Systems: Turbonetics Turbocharger (88mm), 16 gauge Stainless Steel hot and cold parts (Mild Steel Headers), Spearco high flow air to air intercooler, High flow Turbonetics wastegate, Silicone hose kit, Stainless T-bolt clamp kit. 45 mm Blow-off valve, Oil feed and drain lines.All other necessary hardware to install kit.
Napa Auto Parts: Valvoline VR1 Race Oil -(8)qts.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Water Pump Belt
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Intake Manifold bolt kit
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Crankshaft Key
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Hydraulic Brake Light Switch
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Electrical System Part
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Distributor cap, rotor, wire set.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: 90 Deg. -4 Fitting, -10 Hose Clamps
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Flywheel
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Intake Gasket
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Intake, Exhaust, and Header Gaskets
O'Reilly Auto Parts: valley pan gasket
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Fel-Pro Gasket set, freeze plug kit.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Harmonic Balancer
O'Reilly Auto Parts: 460 Long Block Motor
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Flex hose, coil cover
O'Reilly Auto Parts: 15 Amp Fuse, 30 Amp Fuse, 20 Amp Fuse, Long Nipple, Elbow, Electrical Tape, Ring Terminal, Disconnect, Disconnect, Quick Splice
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Block adapter, threaded nipple
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Oil pan and pickup '79-'93 Mustang.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Motorcraft spark plugs.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Thermostat
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Vacuum Control
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Water Pump
The Street Rod Manufacturing Co., Inc. : 9 inch Ford Pinion mounted parking brake and cable bracket,supplied with 14' cable.
Weiand: Stealth Intake Manifold 429, 460 V8 (standard heads).
@PowerNationTV 5 жыл бұрын
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@michaelwalker6184 5 жыл бұрын
straight garbage any fool with a manual can produce more than 360 hp from a 460. even a budget build should net 1.5 hp per cube clowns are smarter
@Aint1S 5 жыл бұрын
I used to get religious on Sundays when the power block was on television and then it disappeared on Dish Network. I'm glad you guys kept it going, but it's there any way to buy every episode?!
@louisedwards6681 5 жыл бұрын
Powerglide W/Lockup?
@mdbadalmiah6808 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir 🇧🇩🤝
@daveycrocket6277 4 жыл бұрын
michael walker it needs naws
@joshclark7034 4 жыл бұрын
I'm only 14 my dad is moving and he gave me a 429 ford big block and a 1989 ford f150 Custom. Thanks to you guys I was able to rebuild the 429 and got it running, Thank you.
@BenitoFan760 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky... 😒
@user-mr8iw8rg6k 3 жыл бұрын
429 has better performance in compare with 460 . they were on BOSS and Shelby cobra but 460 was made just for low end torque for trucks and big passenger cars like Continental . good luck young man !
@spotliterrr 3 жыл бұрын
Change the timing gear to a double roller and set the crank heat in the middle , then drive it
@spotliterrr 3 жыл бұрын
Gear.. not heat
@abelpadilla7789 3 жыл бұрын
That’s fucken Awesome dude to bad it’s a Ford but still cool you got it running post some videos or pictures of it .
@RandomTechWZ 5 жыл бұрын
Used to love watching you guys on Saturday mornings back in my childhood.
@emgarage9534 5 жыл бұрын
What exactly happened to the SPEED channel. I used to watch it every morning before elementary school
@ItsJoshN 5 жыл бұрын
E&M Garage probably online content becoming more and more plentiful. Rating probably dropped because people don’t need to wait for Saturday morning to watch their favourite shows or even get out of bed to do it. Just watch the online shows such as roadkill etc. Can’t beat a show like this though! I really enjoy watching people build motors on budgets!
@emgarage9534 5 жыл бұрын
@@ItsJoshN I would watch it before school
@emgarage9534 5 жыл бұрын
@@ItsJoshN but I get what u mean about all the online stuff
@gnarlytothemax 5 жыл бұрын
this shit is theraputic
@fordtruckman80 2 жыл бұрын
At first I wondered why the machine work was only $500. Then I realized this episode is from 2009. That explains it.
@deathatthefeast5326 Жыл бұрын
That's for the heads lol.
@wayne3340 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a budget build that didn't cost $5,200.00! Now I want to see it installed and laying rubber for half a block. Love it.
@sategllib2191 2 жыл бұрын
These days this would cost atleast $5,200 lol
@eherbo8645 2 жыл бұрын
Facts they said $200 for the engine I just looked and they going for 4K+
@mudheadsmudracing8431 Жыл бұрын
@@eherbo8645 $4k for an engine made for 30 years? need to look somewhere else lol.
@thepostproject1284 Жыл бұрын
you can get a rebuilt Fe long block from S and J motors for less than $5200, it's $2300 actually(plus core). I just had them build me a 433 stroker and with the stroker kit($3000ish) and Edlebrock heads($2100 ish) it was $8200. Which I don't think is ridiculous. carb and intake distributor all in for $10000 between 450 to 500 hp
@augustusappling139 Жыл бұрын
@@eherbo8645 nah you can a 460 for $500-1000. of course it will need to be rebuilt and cleaned up, but that's time more than money
@lewisdeclouette6342 5 жыл бұрын
I still say they need to put this show back on Spike TV
@radioactiveload 5 жыл бұрын
no more spike TV where I'm from anyways.. looks like its been taken over by paramount
@dieseldan420ca 5 жыл бұрын
What's TV?
@tegrityfarms4975 5 жыл бұрын
Spike is no longer around
@PowerNationTV 5 жыл бұрын
These shows air on HISTORY on Sunday AM between 7-9AM ET
@killintimeracing1368 5 жыл бұрын
@@PowerNationTV Thank God with all the so called hotroders out there it is so nice to real professionals at work please air more KZfaq content
@edwalker8375 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best engines ever, the Ford 460. It ran as a mellow powerful engine in a tow truck to a 4x4, to a station wagon. As a swap, the basic 460 gave the fox mustang 11 seconds in the quarter mile. Totally built, it made 2000 HP. Well maintained it lasted 500k miles. One great engine.
@ballpython365 2 жыл бұрын
Love to hear things like this, bought a 76 Mercury Cougar with this engine last summer with only 80k miles on it. Slow as molasses up hill right now, but looking forward to putting some work into it.
@autonomous_collective 5 жыл бұрын
Just went out and picked me up a 460 engine from my local junk yard for $150 (Savannah, Ga). Starting my project thanks to your show. Thanks for the video...
@northtexasskies3243 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Are you going to record any videos of you working on it? I really like projects like this
@VengefulBatz 5 жыл бұрын
Autonomous Collective what are you gonna put it in?
@piercer2 4 жыл бұрын
Autonomous Collective 460 is a nice engine. 10mpg whether hauling or not, level road or uphill, the engine doesn’t know what the outside world is doing, it just goes.
@5point0david 4 жыл бұрын
This inspired me to do the same, though mine will be sitting for awhile. It will end up in a street rod mustang, and the other one I got, in an old f250.
@ejdprice 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you search the internet for your proper 460 rebuild procedure to incorporate simple "FREE" little modifications that they never even touched on, so that you have an issue free engine, that you may want to occasionally push beyond intentions yet still hold up.
@stevebarnes9694 4 жыл бұрын
Super helpful for those of us who are building our first engines....Love the step by step and the these 460s are all over the place in bone yards
@lrmcatspaw1 4 жыл бұрын
When they are doing it it looks like Legos. My mechanic: This oil change is very tricky, very expensive.
@skrillah6259 4 жыл бұрын
Get a new mechanic
@chunkiermango7982 4 жыл бұрын
You take out 1 bolt to drain it and twist the canister (forgot name)
@acerbicgeoff7821 4 жыл бұрын
@@chunkiermango7982 did you forget the word oil filter? That's kind of impressive really
@chunkiermango7982 4 жыл бұрын
@@acerbicgeoff7821 you know of those migraines that make you forget/say diffrent words then what you are trying to say i had one of those
@Peterowsky 3 жыл бұрын
@@acerbicgeoff7821 Well it IS a filter in a screw-on canister.
@jefffrancisco952 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 73 in a Marquis, needed a timing set, used a pre 1969 gear set , went from 202 h.p. to 300 something. It really wakes these up.
@skeetersaurus6249 5 жыл бұрын
1979 engines were rated BHP (brake hp, not crank)...so that 130-hp gain you noted was actually the crank you're measuring, not that 100-hp loss off the BHP reading...(and, of course, you dropped LOTS of problems by ditching emissions and that iron intake boat-anchor. Oh...and BAD MOVE on that parts-washer distributor move...you wash the oils off those bronze bushings in that distributor shaft, that shaft will wobble like a weeble in a week from massive friction-wear! ALWAYS soak that bottom end in 10-w-40 after washing a distributor, and shoot a few shots of motor oil down the shaft interior after such a move...those bushings will LOVE YOU for it!
@MARedleg 3 жыл бұрын
I love to see old engines get a second life.
@Holop88 Жыл бұрын
460 was used in up to 1996
@djangoapple8230 4 жыл бұрын
Learned my lesson on freeze plugs. Go with brass. First thing I noticed on those plugs was "China". 🤣
@peterdarr383 4 жыл бұрын
There's enough lead in the iron to keep it from rusting . . . .
@Brock_Landers 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the guy below, I used to watch y'all along with the other shows on Saturday mornings when I was a teenager. Then I would watch the fishing shows.
@kylelove927 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@wayneprintup5409 5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@abe2571 5 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@andrewdarbyshire9108 5 жыл бұрын
Went down hill when Stacey David left trucks.
@shaggintv 5 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the show when it was on TNN and it was Chuck and Joe. It's still a good show.
@happyfreeliferc 2 жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's I worked for Glenn Vile(He passed 3 weeks ago,great man) in Old Saybook,Ct he had a F350 with a 460 3 speed manual with rack body.that truck would get up and GO !!! RIP Glenn you were Loved by so many
@BS-km9oe 5 жыл бұрын
My 460 was in my 1976 f250 camper special. I got 5 miles to the gallon. Loved every minute of owning it.
@joeford860 5 жыл бұрын
Damn your's was a fuel efficient model.
@christopheraugustine5816 5 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qOB2dMqa0J68mZs.html
@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism Жыл бұрын
@@joeford860 lol
@bcubed72 Жыл бұрын
@@joeford860 Yeah, when they said "surprisingly little wear" when they tore in, I thought "that's because they couldn't afford to drive it."
@branon6565 5 жыл бұрын
That motor has so much more left in it...460's are badass motors....
@youngwickrecords8252 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, bore it to a 545 ci, hemi heads, domed pistons etc, that puppy would be screamin at 9,000 rpm's
@johnrau2873 5 жыл бұрын
666 stroker
@johnd4348 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 460 in a 1977 Ford LTD with a police interceptor package in it. 155 MPH on the odometer. Could get there and have some left to go. And it got 6 miles to a gallon. Not gas friendly.
@johnrau2873 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnd4348 I put that same engine in a lx mustang 92 with c6 tranny and 9 inch rear end
@frigglebiscuit7484 5 жыл бұрын
they didnt port the heads, so theres probably 20-30 hp there alone.
@carmenalexander1354 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I always when installing pistons. I always use rubber hose on the rod bolts. That reduces the chance of damaging the crank.
@bobhilly546312156332 2 жыл бұрын
I can never watch this 460 episode enough
@faerieSAALE 5 жыл бұрын
GEARHEADS and BIG BLOCKS - big boys with big loud toys! Love `em or hate `em - they're never going to change.
@Trigger_32 5 жыл бұрын
"A few hundred bucks and a few hours in your driveway etc etc" lol I miss these shows
@jekinneys 5 жыл бұрын
HAHA Always made it sound so simple...
@tegrityfarms4975 5 жыл бұрын
Still around just gotta pay to watch like motor trend they have their own streaming service.
@jekinneys 5 жыл бұрын
@@tegrityfarms4975 on history channel too.
@johnd4348 5 жыл бұрын
I replaced a oil pump on my 460 while the engine was still in the car. They did everything the easy way, while it was out of the car. Cam journeys really fun
@Myvintageiron7512 Жыл бұрын
These guys leave so much stuff out of these builds
@grabir01 5 жыл бұрын
Freeze plugs can rust and corrode from the outside in. Does take time and environment. I do like bronze plugs even if they are for marine apps.
@RetroMotiveAdventures 5 жыл бұрын
Damn a beautiful rebuild for that price! Love the 460.
@nickd3056 3 жыл бұрын
Mike and pat I just want to say that you guys are not only great tv personalities, also the amount of knowledge and know hie between the two of you is fantastic! Love the show and topics you choose.
@edwardpate6128 4 жыл бұрын
I am mostly a GM and Mopar guy but the 460 Ford a good engine!
@joshtheking1772 6 ай бұрын
As an almost stock rebuild, you guys are spot on with the distributor advice here. 100% accurate. Beyond the scope of what you guys are doing here, alot of money will need to be spent.
@TJ-qz6hr 5 жыл бұрын
Love the old 460s.
@TowMater603 5 жыл бұрын
torque wrench ?? nahhhh i always tighten my bolts with 1-3 ugga-dugga's !
@EdwardAlcala 5 жыл бұрын
My man
@funnydubby6401 5 жыл бұрын
They use metal gasket scrapers, with times like these, plastics gasket scrapers with do the job just fine 😂
@jackhopkins4679 3 жыл бұрын
My dad always said till your elbow clicks
@ricmahurin7535 4 жыл бұрын
I like seeing these 460s woken up... 366/478 aint too bad for stock pistons and parts. this was a great build
@ricmahurin7535 4 жыл бұрын
@David miorgan thats good to know
@JorgeRodriguez-po7kx 5 жыл бұрын
Never miss this episodes of Powernation back in the day on Spike but at least it is now on the History Channel on Sunday Mornings Since I was a Kid I Loved to Work on Engines and Cars
@towgod7985 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the episodes of Powerblock / Power nation , we have not had them up here in Canada for over 10yrs. Cheers .guys, all the best.
@eighthof8 5 жыл бұрын
You made a great choice getting the blue motor with the distributor up front where it's supposed to be!
@EricFixalot 5 жыл бұрын
Distributors are obsolete. Engines are engines though, build what works and run it. Blind brand loyalty is for suckers.
@hawkdsl 5 жыл бұрын
@@phantomwalker8251 You tell em ford guy.
@maxpowerta3183 5 жыл бұрын
@@phantomwalker8251 uggh..... so much false information in this post i don't even know where to start, you sound like a Brit, go back to playing with your 2.0l 4cylinder diesel junk cars and let the adults talk.
@EricFixalot 5 жыл бұрын
@harry walker Technically you’re right, I own two old Chevys, but I daily drive my 06 Dodge Charger hemi. My first car was actually a Honda and I also had a VW for a short time. Diversity is fun, you should try it sometime. All car manufactures have good and bad designs. As a mechanic, I can tell you they all break and they all have problems. Although Toyotas seem to put up with more than most. I was thinking about getting one actually.
@RadmanzzZ 5 жыл бұрын
Dam take it easy fellas we don’t need anymore keyboard warriors than we already got
@ghunt81 4 жыл бұрын
Always thought 460's were the forgotten big blocks. I believe Hot Rod did a build years ago where they milled the heads to bump compression, mild porting on the heads, timing swap to get rid of the built-in advance put on the truck engines, aftermarket intake and headers and made 500 hp.
@noahgaray7923 4 жыл бұрын
Mostly because they never had a hot 460 in a muscle car. Sure the boss 429 was a force to be reckoned with, but they don’t think of it as the same engine. Out of all 454 ever in a car, most were turds in trucks. What gives them the image was the LS6 in the chevelle. The 460 never got anything like that. Just Lincoln duty and then truck duty. Good for us ford guys though, because they are more beefy than a 454 and way cheaper to buy.
@CoyoteFTW Жыл бұрын
@@noahgaray7923 - Yeah people act like 460 is surprising how much power it makes when that boat anchor 454 was getting ass licked by a 351w in the lightning.
@timeisapathwalkingtounderstand 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. You guys are amazing. It's 3:28 a.m. New York City Thursday July 25th trying to learn about engines and cars.
@e4300 5 жыл бұрын
I understand this is a budget build and they did a fantastic job at it. But can you imagine if they used Roller Rockers, Roller Lifters and did a little Cylinder Head Polishing.
@rotattor 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crapp Joe, are you Robert Redford's long lost brother ?
@jeffs.6488 5 жыл бұрын
This takes me back to the early 80's where I bought and rebuilt on a budget, a 1972 429 engine for my '68 Galaxy 500 I took a blown 302 out of. That car was crazy assed fast after the engine swap.
@jamesturnbow719 5 жыл бұрын
No replacement for displacement. Ford's new 7.3 gas engine will be the new age BBF. I believe it will surpass the coyote 5.0 in hot rods and racecars as soon as some trucks get wrecked so they can hit the market. I have a mild 460 in a fox body on a 10.5 tire, it's a handful and cheap and easy to maintain.
@skylinefever 5 жыл бұрын
Since the new engine will be OHV, it will take up less room than many SOHC or DOHC engines and make for easier swaps. That is one reason why the GM LS engine ends up everywhere.
@jamesturnbow719 5 жыл бұрын
That's right, more room for headers, turbo, ect. Not to mention just a simpler design. It will have the variable timing on the cam, but that's easy enough to lock out, and someone will most likely make a cam for them to delete that. With a o.e. harness or stand alone, the limits are endless, I can only imagine the h.p. and torque numbers with that 7.3 and a power adder. Should be pretty stout, fuel efficient and reliable.
@frigglebiscuit7484 5 жыл бұрын
duuude yes, i saw that engine reveal. im a huge mopar nerd, and im hyped for it.
@jamesturnbow719 5 жыл бұрын
@@frigglebiscuit7484 I like me some old Mopar now. That's another cheap big block you can make some big power with.
@Tom-wq2mz 3 жыл бұрын
My first 460 BB was a 1978 Mercury Grand Marquise Brougham. I built it back in 2000 with Ersson part's. Nice build guy's
@briggsquantum 5 жыл бұрын
Leave a couple of head bolts loose but threaded in when you crack a cylinder head off it's gasket. Even steel toe boots won't save your foot when a 385 series iron head falls on it, let alone a pair of sneakers. Go buy a lottery ticket - you're lucky.
@BarnStangz 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same then buddy would have lost some toes for sure.
@rarbona 5 жыл бұрын
You are not kidding when I was kid in the early 90's my dad lost the tip of his ring finger to a 385 series head that fell from where it was hanging. I think The 429 was worth it in the end...
@norman_sage2528 5 жыл бұрын
Great pick up. I would have done the same thing as this guy. When you don't do this all the time it can get very dangerous. I almost had a truck roll over on me because I did not chuck the wheels properly. Safty first.
@dellstudio10 5 жыл бұрын
Good advice. Safety should always be the first priority. I replaced the head gasket on my old F-150 with the 300 inline 6. I took my time to remove the head slowly and carefully. There's not a lot of room for error with that head. At around 70 pounds it can cause serious damage to a person or property if dropped.
@deanmartin9853 5 жыл бұрын
This advise does not have to do with a head. lol But tensioner pullies, Always keep your hand and finders away from them when ever removing or relieving the tension. My mentor lost have of his finger due to one. Was replacing it had his hand in between it and the inner fender well, and bang it blew apart. This is Canada so free health care, but lost half a finger!
@brettb.7425 5 жыл бұрын
I usually don’t install expansion plugs until after the head bolt threads have been tapped and cleaned. To each his own though. Nice build!
@yaboilemonboi5223 8 ай бұрын
My grandpa gifted me a 58 f100 with a dead motor, and he gave me an old 460 laying a round so I could get it swapped out and running for a daily for school, found this video really helpful!
@edim108 2 жыл бұрын
For a shade over $2k this motor ain't half bad! Great to see these big block Ford getting some love.
@melissacrook968 5 жыл бұрын
Best motor ever built......... Nothing like the sound of a good ole 460
@richardprice5978 5 жыл бұрын
440wh / 426 hemi bbm dodge vs 384/460 bbf bottom end who wins
@jedclampett6466 5 жыл бұрын
Melissa Crook No thanks! Been running a BBC in '71 F-250 4x4 since 1979.
@richardprice5978 5 жыл бұрын
@Adam Fears but who has the strongest bottom end design / parts in pre-1980 big block v-8 ? and why ?
@melissacrook968 5 жыл бұрын
Richard price ,, the 429 DOVE motor has the strongest bottom end hands down.... The 460 was a grunt motor and combine the 2 and you have the strongest big block out there.
@melissacrook968 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows who was winning the Talladega back in the day big block fords.. and the only reason you don't hear a lot about fords is because they're expensive and they last forever they're not Chevy junk.
@BlindMansRevenge2002 5 жыл бұрын
Damn! Whatever the hell happened to these guys in the show. This was my favorite power block show. I always dreamed of having a garage like these guys. They made everything look so damn easy.
@PowerNationTV 5 жыл бұрын
Horsepower changed to Engine Power and airs Sunday AM on HISTORY between 7-9AM ET/PT. Mike Galley is still a host of the show.
@1slotmech 4 жыл бұрын
@@PowerNationTV what about posting new episodes, not the ten-year-old out of date stuff?
@lmarcos53 3 жыл бұрын
Fellas. When you're torquing down bolts, it's measured in foot pounds. But, when you're measuring Engine Torque on a dyno, it's Pound Feet. Thank you.
@RadDadisRad 4 жыл бұрын
Cast iron heads are amazing for tow rigs. They have a much better uniform clamping force on the head gasket. They take heat better than aluminum ones also.
@elektro3000 5 жыл бұрын
Nice budget build, I definitely want to do a 460 some day, maybe for a Cobra replica with my Dad. But there's no way I could bring myself to tear down a 460 and put it back together with those low compression pistons.
@jonhathaway2537 Жыл бұрын
Still made plenty of power and torque . Shit intake , cam and headers woke that thing right up
@elektro3000 Жыл бұрын
@@jonhathaway2537 Sure, but there's more to a fun engine than just peak numbers. Higher compression can improve the shape of the torque curve, throttle response, and even gives you better engine braking, which is a big benefit on a lightweight sports car.
@thunderray1987 5 жыл бұрын
That would be an awesome motor for a 1973-1979 Ford F-Series Truck! I've always wanted a 1978 or 1979 Ford F-150 Ranger with a 429/460 BBF V8 built for the street!
@spd2345 4 жыл бұрын
Watched Horse Power throughout high school in the 90s, great show.
@TheSpritz0 2 жыл бұрын
My older cousin bought a new 1975 Ford Torino "Sport" with one of these 460 V-8 it was a GORGEOUS car, I got to go on a long drive when he picked it up from the dealership!!!
@dshudson 3 жыл бұрын
I find this stuff fascinating, it's cool to work on stuff with physical feed back when your done. I work on computer systems, just not as satisfying. I can't even change my oil but I'll repair or build a laptop in just a few min.
@aimeagle 2 жыл бұрын
Those numbers are on par with the 460 stock in my 70 Mark III. Supposedly 365hp at 4600rpm and 500lbft at 2800rpm. The Mark weighs in at a robust 4800 lbs however lol! Good video guys!!
@majorpayne5289 4 жыл бұрын
Aways liked the FORD 460 for the torque. Kits & such, they’re more expensive to build. Much more than a Chevy. Just my experience. Good stuff guys👍Thanks✌️
@DougHanchard 5 жыл бұрын
The gross dyno HP numbers are about right. By the time driveline and front accessory HP losses are factored in, with new high rise dualplane intake, the net HP is about 275 - 290 given the stock cam with no advance. I remember when Bullet cams released their Ford "stock" RV cam for towing. It too required a high rise dualplane and less than 9:1 compression. It cranked out a whopping 625 ft. Lbs of torque at a derated 180 HP at only 2900 - 3,500 RPM. It was a beast, kept cool, never detonated and made almost 7 mpg in a F250. The trick is to stuff as long of a connecting rod you can in these motors if you want bottom end torque.
@jackflash6377 5 жыл бұрын
I built a 460 back in the mid 80's. Sounded like a NASCAR motor and pulled like stink. Installed it in a short bed truck. Lot of fun.
@jackflash6377 5 жыл бұрын
@rustybuttpate Can't beat the big block Fords :) I hear ya about the gas gauge. It was worth it tho. Too much fun!
@Robbie2Fly 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are expert master mechanics and know exactly what you are doing, and you have all the tools. For the average Joe, this same build would have costed $7,500+ because they would be paying someone labor to do this.
@benjaminturpin2749 Жыл бұрын
These guys are TV guys. You don't see the real ones doing the work.
@calincampbell5637 Жыл бұрын
The average Joe trying to build an engine on the cheap only pays labor for machining. The average Joe paying someone else to build his engine is not who this video is made for.
@alanmydland5210 Жыл бұрын
Cheap anything days are over
@alb12345672 3 жыл бұрын
Just worked on my explorer metal valve covers. To strip the valve covers, I used the old brake fluid after a flush. Two hours later, the paint wiped off.
@MrDavidelliottjr 5 жыл бұрын
Love to have that beauty in my old 79 f-250
@alexyo3927 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice video guys. Love seeing old parts re used.
@TheWabbit 5 жыл бұрын
I rebuilt my tired and leaky 1996 460 from my F250 4WD w/5speed. I needed something to drive everyday but a few more pounds of torque for fun. Machine shop bored the engine .40 over cleaned and decked the heads, did a nice Valve job. Cleaned up the crank, replaced the pistons to add a small amount of compression, added a RV cam, ( dont remember the specs and the paperwork went with the truck when I sold it ) a little beefier valve springs, needed to replace the flywheel and clutch so I went with a Carolina set (1lb more at the foot and 2x the hook up) worked the manifold with the help of a very talented friend along with other minor details. Finished it with a Banks intake and exaust system ( expensive but I liked the stainless pipes and how it was quiet unless I was into the gas) I wish i could've got it dynoed but I had a good increase in the whole powerband, I could take off in 3rd and about 2200 she turned into a beast, pulling people out of ditches in the winter got a whole lot easier. With some 305/75/16s I got an amazing 16 mph on the highway and about 10 in the city, previously I was getting 12 no matter what. Fun project, set me back about $4500.00 when it was said and done but that included getting the alternator and AC compressor rebuilt, new battery, new water pump, oh and an extra $100. To get the Ford extension housing milled to the block. Blew out my back about 4 years later and had to let her go, too rough a ride for a busted up old guy.
@noahgaray7923 4 жыл бұрын
What did you think of the headers otherwise?
@TheWabbit 4 жыл бұрын
@@noahgaray7923 I loved the whole exaust, the headers fit great,it wasn't a hassle trying to squeeze them in. It was a tight fit but I've had tighter fits in a 1976 highboy. The exaust/Cam combination gave it just an ever so slight thump, once you started pouring fuel down her throat she got louder with a nice throaty and I have a cam sound. At idle it sounded different, quieter just like the sleeper she was.
@rocksandoil2241 Жыл бұрын
Best truck I've ever owned 83 Ford w 460 and 4 speed I custom ordered. Even got 12 mpg unloaded. Oil field use and kept for 120k miles.
@jefffrancisco952 5 жыл бұрын
These where awesome,had a 1973 Marquis, timing chain went. Replaced with 1968-1969 429 timing set, instant boost in power! Actually ripped the lower control arm out of the frame on the drivers side doing a burnout. Memories....
@xXWOND3RBR3ADXx 5 жыл бұрын
“Wanna see it again” to be honest I already replayed it 10 times LOL
@abelpadilla7789 3 жыл бұрын
I like this episode the tear down n rebuilding always impressive to see Them work on there craft.
@timcahill7792 5 жыл бұрын
Damn u guys r right my old 460 spun off 2 harmonic dampners. Had to travel outta state to pick up a used one everytime.
@dustingould322 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 14 and I used this video to help build a 460 for my first truck and
@uio890138 2 жыл бұрын
These budgets builds are so awesome!!
@mattmerritt1040 Жыл бұрын
Can't imagine what it costs to machine this today. And that's if you can find a good machine shop!
@darrenlee7498 Жыл бұрын
I just spent $4500 and that's with me supplying some of the parts. Timing chain, water pump, main bearings etc
@gorgonbazil2652 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, love the build,, Use Brass plugs, steel freeze plugs will rust through due to electrolysis. Can't believe you pried the head off the way you did, especially watching it drop to the floor! On the rear main seal, its a good idea to offset the seal about 30 degrees to keep it from leaking, in other words the part line of the seals should not be even with the block but inside the block and cap. Hate using silicone to seal the engine, I prefer cork, use High Tack to attach the gaskets. Great job on pre-lubing the motor, that is real important.. Great to watch!!
@1slotmech 4 жыл бұрын
This is a 10yr old episode, just so you know.
@gorgonbazil2652 4 жыл бұрын
@@1slotmech well, it was published Jun 12, 2019
@kcav5374 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta tell ya, love the video. I did a 460 and trans from a T-Bird to put into a buddy's F150. A truck we 'intended' to just be a trailer towing rig. We kinda got carried away, My buddy bought a 429 Super Cobra Jet solid lifter cam & I'd read that the 385 series likes a cam where the intake opens @ 136 degrees before top dead. Well, that's exactly where the timing IS on that cam, but not wanting solid lifters I sent the cam out to a crank grinder who reground the cam down to the next smaller hydraulic grind yet it retained the intake valve timing. I started some minor 'bowl blend' porting and my buddy wanted me to get rid' of the big thermactor boss in the exhaust port. In fact against my objections (I'm NOT a cylinder head porter) He had me port the exhust complete and with an aluminum intake, a holley, headers and exhaust that thing turned out to be a BEAST! He 'regularly' beat 5.0 Mustangs and the like!
@jdoggybizzle 4 жыл бұрын
I've got a little bit newer and smaller Ford, er, Mazda V6 build for a Probe I'm doing and I was originally going to just re-use the stock heads but I think I'm going to have them machined after seeing how nice those 460 heads came out. I have a set of 218 duration and 363 lift cams and Ferrea competition springs, I can probably get away with the stock valves lapped and some upgraded retainers. Thanks guys, used to watch your show as a kid.
@MistrMcGill 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very nice budget build. Great work!✌️
@orionlynd8429 5 жыл бұрын
hey
@MistrMcGill 5 жыл бұрын
@@orionlynd8429 what's up dude ✌️
@orionlynd8429 5 жыл бұрын
@@MistrMcGill i was reading the comments and saw you lol
@petermetaxas9696 4 жыл бұрын
Tip: re-tap and blow out any of the holes for head bolts and any other threaded holes before you machine and paint. Good idea to put block and heads in a rotational parts cleaner that uses heated chemical degreaser before machining. Then blow it out and re-tap again before assembly. That way any dirt doesn't get anywhere it shouldn't. Cleanness is critical!
@aldonelson5757 4 ай бұрын
I agree. Take the time & do it right
@rickv4539 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 460 in my 79 Ford 250 here to this day i believe the 460 is the best engine. They r just strong tough engine. I used my truck on the farm pulling equipment and got a lot of calls to pull other trucks out of the mud.
@jimcatanzaro7808 Жыл бұрын
I love how they show the bolts just falling out
@AnthonySvt_ 5 жыл бұрын
Should’ve done some head porting for the extra flow
@CJColvin 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree brother along with porting and polishing the intake manifold.
@aldonelson1746 4 жыл бұрын
Even a little port matching would have made a huge difference
@robbiematney6661 4 жыл бұрын
El_De_La_Lobo exactly free hp do it yourself port polishing
@zachsmith6898 4 жыл бұрын
If you can, it would be nice to build a budget and performance 351W build
@tiredhero 4 жыл бұрын
well i have been missing out i just found this channel, now i get to watch it all from the beginning!
@acts2211 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome rebuild awesome Dyno numbers fantastic job
@DanielCollins85 5 жыл бұрын
Video starts at 3:34 if you're only interested in the 460 build.
@freedomisntfree_44 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks dwinnin
@Chris_Troxler 5 жыл бұрын
Welp, guess I'll be ripping the motor outta my 75 Lincoln for a rebuild then.
@VengefulBatz 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Troxler YES! #Bigcarperformance
@cesargt5848 3 жыл бұрын
How is your build going? I got a 460 from a 77 lincoln and can not find motor mounts ANYWHERE to swap into my 73 f100
@Chris_Troxler 3 жыл бұрын
@@cesargt5848 Ooof... I have a number of projects ahead of it, including finding a front end for the car. Hit a damn deer in it a few weeks ago. Can't have nothing nice.
@grabir01 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing power. Big blocks rule!!
@fordnut4914 5 жыл бұрын
I miss horse power tv was always good Saturday morning to watch.
@scottbrown1820 3 жыл бұрын
C8ve C9ve or Dove castings would definitely increase the compression and if you’re really lucky to find a pair of DOOE-R ( cobra jet) that’s even better.
@christopherdecker3830 4 жыл бұрын
Love how you redid the stock valve covers 😎!
@strattuner 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 460 in my 1978 f150 lariat,and it has 487k miles on it,with a timing chain and new valve springs,i had to take it off the road only because the pistons were so worn out,it would not cruise 70 all day any more,this engine is incredible,when I was under the 300k mark it got 14 to 15 mpg,47 trips to texas no break downs,it needed rocker stands and rockers at the 400k mark,it added about 50 horse at the flywheel after the installation of the rockers and stands,they wear out and cause hp loss
@stevetalbert2727 3 жыл бұрын
I built my engine from the oil pan to the breather! Get over this BUILD thing!
@maynardreed4036 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see an episode with Joe in it again.
@scdevon 5 жыл бұрын
Good numbers for a warmed-over stock engine.
@scdevon 3 жыл бұрын
@@LA_Commander It shows that you don't need high compression ratios to make decent numbers with the right cam and the right tune. They're even using an auto parts store timing chain kit dot-to-dot LOL. I really like real world garage builds like this. Anybody could do this build.
@malikdigger4544 5 жыл бұрын
Horsepower Tv , Popular Hot Rodding , Chop Cut Rebuild , American Hot Rod & Dream Car Garage were all my favorite weekend car programs 17 years ago miss Tnn Network & Speed Channel now.
@PK075 4 жыл бұрын
Best show on TV and love watching it on KZfaq From Melbourne AUSTRALIA 👍👍👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@TheDynamiteGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, a 460 will put out 500HP and 500lbft Torque with ease!
@codyparker679 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me with those parts they were running a very mild cam
@phantomwalker8251 5 жыл бұрын
@@codyparker679 & they kept the dished pistons,should of gone with 72 pistons.didnt they have over 400 hp stock back then..?.dished pistons & retarded timing killed them.
@williamoleschoolarendt7016 5 жыл бұрын
@@phantomwalker8251 no they had a measly 290hp or something ridiculous like that. They were considered the Big Smog Motor!!!! A lot of people used to call them boat anchors!!!
@christopheraugustine5816 5 жыл бұрын
@@phantomwalker8251 1971 was the last year of the high compression engines. Earlier engines (up to 1971) produced 365 HP GROSS. The lower compression was done to cope with unleaded fuel, and yes, the 8* retarded later timing sets hurt the engine a fair bit. A set of flat tops with their large chamber heads would have been about 9.5:1, and they would have done better. I suspect shenanigans on their power for this, though - that was basically a stock build.
@piercer2 4 жыл бұрын
Cody Parker Flat tappet can grinds are usually mild no?
@godbluffvdgg 4 жыл бұрын
Killer upload, and beast to a beauty rebuild! As an OG (old guy)... I love seeing old school American iron getting new life...Being on youtube for so many years, I'm very impressed by so many great mechanics...Subbing sharing etc...:)
@ericlbell6500 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm also rebuilding my 429 cid big block thunder jet engine. Just moderate mild build for street and highway cuisineing.
@amcwagoneer 5 жыл бұрын
Scary looked like the steering shaft bent when he pulled on it to get out before dyno test.
@jakespeed63 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I had that in my 1996 F-250 work truck My 460 is a fuel drinking dog
@TdrSld 5 жыл бұрын
All the batch fire 460's were, My 90 2 door long bed 4x4 was 10mpg when I got her. For the last year she ran she got 3 to 4mpg. and that's unloaded lol. I have seen some Cali smog 460's pull 19 mpg with Mass air and sequential fuel injection.
@alwaysright6615 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff, time flies when I watch your shows 👍
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 4 жыл бұрын
A $2300 engine build for some good performance, not bad. Like it. Thumbs up!
@cobracharmer6178 4 жыл бұрын
Mohabat khan Malak ; It was probably a lot less than $2,300. The cam shaft and push rods looked used.
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