Did We Push Our Upgraded Turbo 460 BBF TOO FAR on the Dyno?!?!

Did We Push Our Upgraded Turbo 460 BBF TOO FAR on the Dyno?!?! - Engine Power S11, E1

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Pat and Frankie upgrade some internal components to make our blue oval beast more durable under boost. When it’s back together we will see what our changes make on the engine dyno, but when we turn up the power on our 460 Big Block Ford, things don’t go as smoothly as they would like!
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE
Summit Racing: Summit Racing Performance Connecting Rods
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Summit Racing: Cometic MLS Head Gaskets
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Summit Racing: COMP Cams Keyway Adjustable Billet Timing Set
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Summit Racing: ICON Premium Forged Pistons
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Summit Racing: Milodon 4x4 Truck & Off-Road Oil Pan
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Summit Racing: Milodon Oil Pump Pickup
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Summit Racing: Scorpion Race Series Rocker Arms
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ARP: ARP Bolts
Comp Cams: COMP Cams Retro-Fit Hydraulic Roller Lifter Set
Comp Cams: COMP Cams Xtreme Energy Hydraulic Roller Camshaft
CVF Racing: CVF Ford 460 Serpentine System
CWT Industries: CWT Multi-Bal 5500
Edelbrock: Edelbrock Performer RPM Air-Gap Intake Manifold
Holley: Sniper EFI X-Flow

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@johnvirgilsgarage 4 ай бұрын

My turbo EFI 460 F250 is currently getting a 6R80 swap but recently made 844whp and well over 1000wtq at 18psi on E85, for anyone interested I have a small KZfaq channel with some videos of it 🤙

@robertclymer6948 4 ай бұрын

WOW John! Why are you running so much boost? Thanks.

@MrTheHillfolk 4 ай бұрын

Sounds wicked ,definitely better than the industrial 460 turbo that put out 160hp @ 1800. 😄

@johnvirgilsgarage 4 ай бұрын

@@robertclymer6948 just for fun 😂 it was my dad's truck, he bought it new and it was used to haul hay/horses. Now it's just a weekend warrior but so much fun to drive!

@randallmason9687 4 ай бұрын

What ecu are you using to run the efi?

@johnvirgilsgarage 4 ай бұрын

@@randallmason9687 it's a plug and play MS3 ECU made by Stinger Performance, called a pimpxs. It runs fully sequential fuel and spark with LS coils on each plug. The ECU is plug and play with most for EECIV vehicles.

@robwebster1098 4 ай бұрын

I swear the chemistry with Pat and Frankie is awesome!

@richardtibbetts574 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I’m starting to wonder about those two.

@gavinlee7786 3 ай бұрын

Suspect

@renc3920 4 ай бұрын

You guys are hilarious. Ever since Pat came on years ago, and eventually Frankie, the show has gotten better and better. More jokes. more wit and a not so serious but serious engine building vibe. I'm always super stoked to see what shenanigans you guys are up to and which awesome build is going to be featured. You've set the bar. Keep it up guys!! P.S: You guys should really broaden your scope. I'm a Ford guy through and through but here's a whole lot of import engine power that you could show as well. The 2J (for a very well known example) is one that no domestic homer can ever say is not powerful/interesting enough for a show like this.

@tomp1612 4 ай бұрын

Oh yes. Those two guys are great on the show and make it fun to watch.

@BrandonLayMusic 3 ай бұрын

Na ford and chevys are good

@JamesSmith-ux8fy 3 ай бұрын

I would love to see a 1UZFE build.. it's a solid V8 and I would love to see what they could come up with.

@JeffKopis 2 ай бұрын

No. No foreign shit. MURICA!

@chuckfowler4754 4 ай бұрын

Love to see the build that aren’t small/big block Chevy/LS or new gen hemi. They’re over done. Especially love ford 460 stuff👍

@robwebster1098 4 ай бұрын

Wy mean new gen hemi is overdone? I've been watching for years and have seen maybe 3? New Gen hemi builds.

@erikturner5073 4 ай бұрын

@@robwebster1098there's plenty of new Gen Hemi videos all over KZfaq.

@robwebster1098 4 ай бұрын

@@erikturner5073 not on powerblock shows

@erikturner5073 4 ай бұрын

@@robwebster1098 there's other channels on the subject you want. Watch them.

@1spaghetti32 4 ай бұрын

This is the pinnacle of entertaining educational shows. The rest of the world should be taking notes from you guys!

@TheFogLakeshore 4 ай бұрын

Yep, that's right: Anything you do to a BBC, SBC, RB Mopar of any type, SBM, Buick, Olds, Caddy, Pontiac, none of it matters. If you apply any of the upgrades applied to any American classic-era V8, the BBF wins all horsepower and reliability wars. It's been the elephant in the room since some hungover UAW workers started throwing 460s into Continentals instead of 462s. That was 1967. In 1967, the world has designed the most powerful engine architecture that would still fit in a car. You can get a Marine QC engine which Kaase also likes of course. THAT engine wins ALL engine competitions by architecture. The whole thing never started. Someday I will do a cast on this.

@ThePaulv12 4 ай бұрын

Really!

@nasty3145 4 ай бұрын

Its 2024... any 540 BBC will do circles on any Ford BBC 😂😂😂 lol

@stephenhodge6441 4 ай бұрын

Have you been drinking or were you dropped on your head. I'm a Ford guy and know what you just said is definitely not reality

@hawkdsl 3 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie... That was one of the funniest post I've ever read. That level of delusion should be in the Guinness book of world records!

@hendo337 Ай бұрын

If I wanted a big, strong, reliable, powerful, durable engine I would buy a PSI 8.8L Gen7 BBC for $1,000-1,500 used, work the heads, cam, springs, boost and put a hurting on a Ford 429/460 dollar for dollar.

@Sleeperdude 4 ай бұрын

I did 20 pounds of boost on an identical setup 12 years ago. Never had a problem still going strong today

@randallmason9687 4 ай бұрын

All fun and games until Rocky chews the plug wires off! We are going to the local U-pull-it today looking for a 460. Going in my uncle's 71 Ford F-100.

@Carcrafter7165 Ай бұрын

Nice to find you here Josh.

@frankensteincreations4740 4 ай бұрын

Awesome! I can’t wait for the next step with this thing. When you guys put a decent set of heads on it, and swap out the little baby cam… 👍🤘👏

@rrnn9596 2 ай бұрын

Goes to show: one of the best things you can do to a 460 is re-balance it. Most weren’t balanced worth a sh*t from the factory, and many seem to miss they’re both internal and external balanced. Seen/heard of it so many times where someone re-balances one, and OMG! It’s spins past 5500 now! choked at 4500 before 😂

@randallmason9687 4 ай бұрын

Send those heads to MPG for porting, and matching camshaft!

@Bacongrease00 4 ай бұрын

460 has always been sort of a secret usually glossed over.

@P71ScrewHead Ай бұрын

Ppl just don't know how great that engine is.. They coulda made it a stroker n got way more power out of it..

@geraldcrutchfield1451 4 ай бұрын

What I really like about this episode is that it show the Potential of the base level product of summit. Everybody can't afford them high price parts. Go Summit

@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 4 ай бұрын

Life wouldn't be right without engine power show,,,

@98erics 4 ай бұрын

Came for the Ford. Stayed for the Activities! Great show guys. Keep it up

@mikemcvay2965 4 ай бұрын

I love these shows! I can remember watching these series that were a part of power block that came on on the weekend mornings in the late 90s they were my favorite shows back then being a early teen (12-13) they were a suporting modification to me being a gear head to this day....

@jameswhitehead6758 4 ай бұрын

@21:19 : Borat quote to close it out. Classic.

@ryanryan3473 4 ай бұрын

Smokey Dyno Disaster? The people who watch this channel don’t require the standard KZfaq description lies.

@happykillmore349 4 ай бұрын

My spam blocker had to block dozens of spam attempts. These weasels aren't too shameless to clickbait.

@happykillmore349 4 ай бұрын

My spam blocker had to block dozens of spam attempts. These weasels aren't too shameless to clickbait.

@minibikemadman 4 ай бұрын

lol no sheeeet

@AndyLishious 4 ай бұрын

😂

@michaelbogdon2632 4 ай бұрын

But there was a small disaster? And nowhere does it say "smokey dyno disaster" in the title or description

@upnorth6722 4 ай бұрын

Needs a set of aluminum heads next : )

@anthonysiler4938 4 ай бұрын

A pair of p51's

@frankcastle9691 3 ай бұрын

And better headers.

@hendo337 Ай бұрын

More cam and a single plane.

@hendo337 Ай бұрын

And a second turbo

@davidjohnson8474 4 ай бұрын

I'd love to see this short block with a set of Kasse Boss heads! I bet it would be shocking!😂😅

@TheRealCCSmith 4 ай бұрын

All of your viewers are nerds that love anything with an engine!!! ... thats why I'm watching 😅

@angelolewis419 4 ай бұрын

This job has been great for Pat! His health looks good! 👏🏽✊🏽

@iq6840 2 ай бұрын

Is he in bad health?

@tomnekuda3818 4 ай бұрын

You're working on one of my favorite engines to build.....a well-built 460 engine never disappoints a customer. They can be killed by an idiot but, in general, if the guys keeps up with maintenance and watches the revs, these babies will move the load. The heads do not look like fuel-injected heads but must be with some porting. Balancing always makes the revs feel good and live longer.

@linctexpilot8337 4 ай бұрын

DEFINITELY EFI HEADS ... Look at the adapters for the intake and valve covers

@KH102695 4 ай бұрын

The new look and shop refresh are awesome!! Torque monster 460!!

@Matp345 4 ай бұрын

This show never gets old

@randymcrandy8066 4 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the new season!!! Love this show.

@RichardAnthony-hu5ne 4 ай бұрын

Very awesome video I would love to see you guys do a build like this with a 427 Tall Deck the TD has forged crankshaft and rods It would be very interesting to see what you can build and add boost to it stock and built

@hendo337 Ай бұрын

It would be easier to buy a used PSI 8.8L Gen7 BBC industrial engine for $1,000-1,500.

@ScottHBrown 4 ай бұрын

Tiny cam and the log manifolds are serious restrictions! The manifolds alone are a 50+ horse power waste!

@erikturner5073 4 ай бұрын

It doesn't matter when running boost. Richard Holdener mentioned this in one of his turbo LS videos. He's ran plenty of stock manifolds on the turbo LS videos.

@juhomaki-petaja 4 ай бұрын

@@erikturner5073you are 99% right

@ScottHBrown 4 ай бұрын

@@erikturner5073 it does matter when it comes to cylinder back pressure. There's significantly more back pressure in those manifolds that the exhaust stroke has to fight against. Resulting in less horsepower due to higher pumping loss.

@erikturner5073 4 ай бұрын

@@ScottHBrown yes it does matter on ultra builds when your going above 800hp or so, I'd agree. Average builds below 800hp, it really doesn't matter. No sense in spending money you don't have to. It's like when dudes put big dollar AFR heads on a 302 just to make 400hp, when instead you can reach the same goal with a nice prep set of GT40's, 9.5, or 9.8 compression and a very mild cam.

@basscube5 4 ай бұрын

Nice work guys. One comment , cool to see a 7875 on that thing but it's not nearly enough turbo for an engine that size. Maybe Viren can hook you up with an S480 or 488, something with the 96/88 exhaust wheel. All the comments about better heads is pretty hilarious, won't make a bit of difference with that turbo. But it would be a good experiment to show the merits of a properly sized turbo.

@colekitten1367 4 ай бұрын

Awesome first episode of the new season. Keep it up you guys

@commonmockery1074 4 ай бұрын

The way you two interact with each other, it has me convinced that this has to be some kind of uncle/nephew situation.

@plumbs7199 4 ай бұрын

Love ya videos ! Learnt so much watching them ! Built my own clevo 408 .

@toddjones5186 4 ай бұрын

Glad you're back..

@dm8264 4 ай бұрын

That Intro! 🤣 Nice work overall, dudes. Given the teasers at the beginning coupled with both of you having considerable expertise in engine building, I was suspicious if the smoke was due to an install error, which is doubtful.

@bengtleohart6540 4 ай бұрын

Love your work hopes this helps the algorithm Great success

@Foxhound709 Ай бұрын

Still love this show. Keep it up

@metalted6128 4 ай бұрын

The man made patina look, is why that bbf wasn’t happy!!!

@stevefick3919 2 ай бұрын

Love these shows!

@yieud 4 ай бұрын

Love this show, love this dynamic duo, they mingle and work well and just have me itching to see what’s there gunna build next and it gets me amped up to start buying parts for my 5.3 swapped 96 Camaro keep at guys much love from Texas 👍🏽🌮🥓 🇺🇸

@alexcaraveo5406 4 ай бұрын

Love this comment and would like to start a petition with you to name these guys the “dynomic” duo

@Go4BrokeOffroad 4 ай бұрын

There is no blah blah blah. I drive one everyday. 20lbs of boost from an s475, 100% bone stock shortblock. Trick flow 325 heads and a offy tunnel ram. You boys need to push harder. It's 2024.

@JeffKopis 2 ай бұрын

A turbo and a tunnel ram? That plumbing must be interesting.

@hendo337 Ай бұрын

I mean, they had a stock iron heads, small cam, dual plane, only one smaller turbo on a 472ci (0.060" over)BBF, it wouldn't be wise to force the setup too far.

@Go4BrokeOffroad Ай бұрын

@@JeffKopis I have a lot of videos of it. Pretty cool to see and offy with injector ports and boost.

@matthewhogue9727 4 ай бұрын

Love the new show 👍

@thesillyquestions 3 ай бұрын

So awesome 😮 I need this in my bronco

@charltonarmstrong9022 3 ай бұрын

that opening was wild lmao

@user-yh7ss1cg6p 4 ай бұрын

Great video guys, glad y’all are back for another season. Can you do a video explanining more into degreeing the cam, I still don’t totally get that.

@thestrawberrypatch5644 4 ай бұрын

Would make a kick ass tow pig!

@andrewhooper3116 4 ай бұрын

Put it on e85 to lower the cylinder temps and add a scooch more timing which should bring it back into more of a boosted setup

@2000blackstang 4 ай бұрын

Perfect tow rig engine!

@Agent213Roxy 4 ай бұрын

5:36 super awesome part of the engine upgrades

@4406bbldb 28 күн бұрын

Pound feet of torque still makes me think of Fred Flintstone and the family pounding their feet to get the car moving. I’m a Chrysler performance dyno operator and we didn’t use inch lbs we Foot lbs. to measure torque. I ran so many tests in Ft. lbs I just can’t use to the new words.

@cfreezy45 3 ай бұрын

Y'all are living the dream.

@TheAnonymous1one 4 ай бұрын

This is a great show nice to see an update.

@LukeEdward 4 ай бұрын

Genuinely enjoy the direction the show is going (and continuing). The antics are nice as well. Pat, Frankie, y’all are great.

@hawkdsl 3 ай бұрын

Making all that power @ 3500 is a sweet motor, as most people will be shifting there normally (for manuals). It'll be allot of fun with just regular cruising. Well done.

@linctexpilot8337 4 ай бұрын

367 HP & 480 TQ with EFI heads and iron EFI exhaust manifolds is pretty INCREDIBLE

@wsfwsf1497 4 ай бұрын

Good thing those dyno rollers are close to that door. When a car breaks loose, it can head out the door.

@freedomfighter5095 4 ай бұрын

I’m still wanting and waiting and challenging @EnginePower to build a boosted north star. I suggest the L47 as it was used in lemans

@FeartheCyr611 4 ай бұрын

LOVE the step brothers reference!

@Carcrafter7165 Ай бұрын

Your best 460’s to find are manufactured from 1973-1978 if I’m not mistaken. The 1979-1997 I remember not as good from what I’ve read.

@elainestamper3873 3 ай бұрын

Great video ! Where did you get the adapter plates for the new intake? More information on where you get parts please!

@sabbo68 4 ай бұрын

Would love to see them put a Weiand dual carb tunnel ram on that 460 with turbo and watch it eat!!!

@SldgeHammr 4 ай бұрын

EFI is better for turbos

@sabbo68 4 ай бұрын

@@SldgeHammr true. They could use dual quad holley efi's or dual blow through carbs. Something to really challenge their skills

@eddiehennig7835 4 ай бұрын

@SldgeHammr - EFI is less work to tune than a carb but that doesn't mean it's better.

@SldgeHammr 4 ай бұрын

@@eddiehennig7835 but it does? It allows you to specially control fuel based on boost and/or egt/wideband. You’re not having to change jets to get you close to a proper afr both at idle and at boost. What if your boost pressure changes, or you’re at a different altitude? Computer handles the changes while others are rejetting

@eddiehennig7835 4 ай бұрын

@SldgeHammr - EFI is more convenient to tune but it's also more expensive than a blow-through carb for the average guy running a turbo car on the street that isn't changing wastegate springs and tuning all the time. Dyno testing shows engines with EFI vs a properly sized carb are within 3-5hp of eachother so I don't think one is better than the other, just a matter of preference.

@gentilejoshsaved1646 4 ай бұрын

Best show on youtube.

@VinceGuzman 4 ай бұрын

pat and frankie thank goodness the engine didn't blow up, but keep up the good work and continue to bring good projects

@DOCTRJ 4 ай бұрын

Happy new year team 🤘🤠👍🏞️🌄☮️

@MerlinOpeth 4 ай бұрын

In all the 20+years watching power nation ive never seen a dyno accident.

@akidafloof 4 ай бұрын

This is just like watching a Motortrend episode except it's on KZfaq... and there's no 5 minute long commercial breaks.

@christianatv381 4 ай бұрын

Great video! Looks like some of the head gasket water holes were plugged with rust. What is going on there? Thanks :)

@michaelnelson7305 4 ай бұрын

nice video, great info.... got a bigger turbo?

@thesillyquestions 3 ай бұрын

These with the new 6r80 adapters are insane.

@wkjeeping9053 3 ай бұрын

What a torque monster, but most bbf are torque monsters

@samsymes475 4 ай бұрын

The only bloke on planet earth to carry every pocket tool in one pocket daily 🤙🏼 always been intrigued to know what he has in his top right pocket

@2nickles647 4 ай бұрын

He has a hostler pocket too...a true nerddd

@mikewhite3123 4 ай бұрын

Love that mill,and is that the automatic draw bar swap out stuff on it? We had one guy who would always over tighten draw bars and shear the pin right off... Especially when using an end mill, cause the r8 collets will tighten till the pin just lets go, and he always tried to run the feed way too fast and pull the end mill right out of the collet,and blamed the drawbar every focking time...

@user-le9tk3vq6s 3 ай бұрын

Я из России и у нас нет такого чистого помещения для сборки двигателя и после просмотра ваших видео я еще больше полюбил V8 спасибо вам за ваши труды с Уважением из России

@edbrown1080 3 ай бұрын

Never thought I would see a blower on a truck only 460 EFI torque head. Not bad for a head that flows 240 CFM maybe. One set only has like a 2.0 intake valve. JS.

@t0mn8r35 4 ай бұрын

I love your channel.

@BobbyOfEarth 4 ай бұрын

Interesting how these guys are always on a tight budget when building a Ford or Chrysler, but are fully budgeted for GM projects. In this case, they start with a "stock" 460 BBF that only dyno'ed 295 Hp... when any 1968-1972 Ford 460 with 4 Barrel Carb made 365hp @ 4400 rpm. with all the belts and pulleys.. Clearly their biggest limitation is their lack of commitment for building Fords!

@ummduhgmail 4 ай бұрын

Yep, there are a LOT of poor choices on this build! Not even really a money thing, just poor choices. Bad compression (boost friendly is not a modern practice, 8.4:1 is stupid these days), bad heads, hydraulic roller on this platform (screws up geometry) poor choices on efi for a dual plane intake... There's several hundred HP left on the table here.

@AndyFromm 4 ай бұрын

Needs alot more horse torques

@kathysarmcandy1992 4 ай бұрын

You need to go live with a balcony gallery for hecklers to throw popcorn.

@oldschool8432 4 ай бұрын

Im not a ford guy but couldn't love a modified 460. Remember big foot with the 460 an 2 predator carbs

@orinjackson6446 4 ай бұрын

I love this show

@samdavis2956 4 ай бұрын

At 12:50 into the video and just as the new cam is being inserted into the block, I noticed a opening directly behind the front cam support. It runs from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock (EST) and appears to be about 1.25 " wide by 2.5 " tall. It seems that a portion of the top back opening may have been broken off prior to block prepping /finishing or maybe it's just a casting burp. In any event, what purpose does the opening serve? Any explanation would be appreciated. Thank You, Sam Davis

@stephenhodge6441 4 ай бұрын

As a ford guy myself, if you watch this video, and still don't get why people are doing ls swaps, then there may be no help for you. Lol

@rakemuhammad 4 ай бұрын

You aint a Ford guy then if you saying this

@NomadGringo 4 ай бұрын

LS are the trailer court of engines. Bye Felicia.

@stephenhodge6441 4 ай бұрын

@@NomadGringo trailer court?

@NomadGringo 4 ай бұрын

In case that confuses you, they're low budget garbage.... 😂😂😂

@stephenhodge6441 4 ай бұрын

@@NomadGringo look, it's okay if you don't understand about engines. But in that case, you should probably just keep your mouth shut. There's a million LS engines on the road that are doing amazing things with major longevity. But if you want to explain how they're garbage please be my guest.

@hendo337 Ай бұрын

I am surprised that you decided to go with a Dual Plane intake and that small of a cam. I would generally guess a guy who was running a turbo 472ci BBF would go with a Single Plane intake and a bigger cam. The loss of low rpm tq would be considered acceptable and prefered to nerf cylinder pressure during the TQ spike and then have it pull harder upstairs with the boost and the single plane would likely have better AF distribution cyl to cyl keeping it safer with boost. Any losses down low can always be made up with a little more boost and some E85 and will make even more peak hp.

@overbuiltautomotive1299 3 ай бұрын

seems like the oem parts be fine all day its not like a lot of turbo engine have forged pistons and its a 460 so 8 psi of boost ios very safe .they are over stating the need for new stuff now rods ill agree with and water injection if one needs to boost more

@InnocentMiscreant 4 ай бұрын

With those parts 15 psi is easy and you can put more timing in it

@RANDOMNATION907 4 ай бұрын

Needs more cow bell . . . and Pat's suspenders could use some more florescence under the black light. But, yes . . . when's the tour?

@squiggyg.8415 4 ай бұрын

FYI, the shop is located in the smoky mountains

@snarfsnarf3323 4 ай бұрын

Hmm, i like the new look

@hedgepethracing9590 3 ай бұрын

Ill come work for you for a few days for that opd intake....

@79tazman Ай бұрын

Once you have a solid bottom end then the head gaskets become a real issue on them older designed engines unless you O ring it

@488ci 4 ай бұрын

I always wondered what the Ram V10 would make with boost? Cool stuff 😎

@turboi6 4 ай бұрын

I'm a V10 Ford guy but have always like the V10 Rams also..That would be an interesting build!

@IcanDriveIt 4 ай бұрын

That’s such an under appreciated engine. I’d love to see a performance build of it, particularly with boost

@sherylellingson3538 4 ай бұрын

The biggest difference would come with getting rid of those very restrictive exhaust manifolds. Turbo's hate them.

@Viperman200221 4 ай бұрын

Rave Party, LOL!

@FINfinFINfinFINfin 2 ай бұрын

Is that stock crank cast or forged? How much boost would y'all say to use for a 1997 F350 DRW tow rig with a 460 for max "safe" torque?

@v8trikebyers756 4 ай бұрын

This engine will be great for towing heavy loads and over taking on hills while towing

@dastarddizaster 21 күн бұрын

What is the purpose behind the Carb to EFI adapter having a long oval slot on one side and two holes on the other? Why not a divided or open adapter instead? Thanks in advance.