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Well I actually own a 2017 focus ST. It has every mod except for replacing the factory turbo. Literally. It surprises a lot of people as to how quick the car actually is. And yes it is absolutely loud in your face and awesome to daily drive. Scares puppy dogs and little old ladies and as a 50-year-old Combat veteran that’s just fine with me.

Love the ST but I’m GTI all day. I own a MK6 GTI with stage 2 mods. The community is big and aftermarket support is everywhere.

I owned a GTI, and I currently own a ST. Both similairly modded,.The GTI was faster in a straight line and was just over all fancier. BUT.... The ST is just so much more fun. Both Communities are very interesting you have great people and the occasional douche bag.

2017 had me shopping a pre-owned GTI vs a brand new ST with 11 miles on her. I'm now sitting at 59,483 miles, and quite honestly really happy with my choice. The ST puts the same smile on my face every as she did on my test drive. Considering that I can always go out and buy a new GTI at anytime, I'm glad I went for the ST.

New drinking game: Take a shot every time Alex says "A couple, two tree." 😂

I was choosing between these two for my first car and ended up with the GTI. I work in auto upholstery and I honestly can't look past the cheap American interior.

Here’s the difference: one is made of plastic the other is over complicated however they both are fast, affordable great cars.

I saw GTI. I CLICK

The two cars on my "I swear I'm buying this next" list. I think I'm going Golf for the parts availability but damn, that ST is a spicyboi

I own a 19 GTI DSG, BEST DAILY EVER! Both are probably great, but I preferred the longer warranty, better interior and fit more comfortable (6'4) plus GTI responds very well to mods. Power to Power bolt ons, GTI wins. BUT ST is probably easier to work on.

Sorry i'm late i just finished watching D-list

The fact that the entry level GTI interior is way nicer than the top tier ST should be a pretty strong indicator. For me, GTI, all day long. I am definitely biased though. VW!!!

GTI... most fun daily I’ve owned.

I’ve owned both back to back. More smiles with the ST, way less problems with the ST, more thumbs ups with the ST. In 1 year of owning the GTi it was out of commission 4 times, towed twice

ST2. Got it 2 months ago. Started modding it recently. Car is wonderful. Torque steer isn't even an issue anymore because you get used to it. Handles insanely and its stupid fun,.

Had an ST for years, drive a couple GTIs and fell in love with them, mostly because they really do well on the highway, very comfortable. With a tune/dsg I was really impressed.

I have a 2015 gti se 3 door and my wife has 2015 focus st with st3 package. We love both cars. ST is a little rowdier but the gti puts down power so smoothly. We love them both

Proud 2018 GTI owner here.. and a fan of the Focus ST exterior stylings

0:10 choco obviously -_-

I daily'd a Mk6 GTI (Stage 2) for a few years (now it's the wife's) and I loved that thing. I still take it out for mountain runs when I can because it just feels tighter and more refined than my WRX hatch. I love both, but the GTI is much comfier. It's the one we take on longer trips.

I love both cars, and when I bought my GTi I was in between the two. The GTi I found was newer and was already APR stage 2, costed the same as a stock ST1 the same year. So I went with the GTi and love it.

Was literally looking for hot hatches either a GTI or ST and they make this beautiful

Awesome ...I must say you guys never failed to disappoint me❤❤❤

This is a really cool concept I’m super hyped for. Almost like it could be a segment on Top Gear. Y’all are awesome!

I love both cars, when I was looking for a car, I had both options, and I test drive both, but just the GTI was something else, 1 1/2 years with my GTI and I don’t regret getting the GTI, even tho ST is amazing

More awesome bangers with the new series keep ity up Alex

Bought my '17 ST in the summer of '19. I've always liked the golfs, but I'm more into domestic cars. I ended up loving it way more than I expected and I don't plan on ever selling it

Came frm a mk7 gti loved everything about it loved that u can take long drives and it won't beat u up and it doesn't look like a boy racer. I now have a 7.5 Golf R feel the same about it love the launch control offered on the dsg transmission

Good video. I'm more accustomed to seeing "stanced" GTIs than STs. Cool seeing the opposite perspective. Currently have a mk6 GTI, next daily will be 17 or 18 Golf R. But plan on building another GTI for the track eventually.

I went with the Focus ST. It was a tough call since I'm a blue oval guy and VW guy, so my loyalties were split. In the end, the ST was cheaper out the door. Still love them both, but really enjoying the Focus ST.

Love your vids keep up the great work👍

Went overkill and got an R. Best decision I’ve ever made feels so premium compared to other high end hot hatches. The aftermarket is HUGE the help is over abundant and the community is amazing. My first VW and definitely won’t be the last

Those Germans know how to build em GTI all day, but I am biased 😂

I'm 6'4" with loooong legs and I have absolutely no problems driving my Focus ST. 107k miles since I bought it new and no issues whatsoever

ST has the power but interior is lacking, GTI is still quick but has a very luxurious feel.

I've owned both actually. A 2015 GTI and now a 2018 ST. The GTI was more comfortable and it was quicker on paper. The ST is WAY more fun, it feels quicker, and handles better. They both have tons of perks and it really just depends on what you want from a car. Personally I would go for the ST all day. It is such a blast to drive.

Honestly just bought a GTI, love the car!

I'd definitely go with the Golf GTI, all day.

MK5 GTI owner with 60k (stage 1 APR plus ECU flash, Stage 1 DSG Tune, APR stage 2 plus intake) , use it as a daily driver, so much fun driving in the city. Good car, thumbs up.

I like the way Jake explains car stuff. It just makes more sense the way he says it did you take a speech class or something.

I've owned 2015 gti and currently own a 2014 St. The gti has a much nicer interior than the st even though mine is the st3. The focus has a nicer outside and a better driving experience. Love both but id go with the gti

I got a 2013 GTI and it’s so fun to drive

love my MK7 GTI!!

Got a 2017 GTI with the DSG, and god is that little hatch fun.

I’d go with the gti. I like the nicer interior and comfort.

THIS. I've been bouncing back and forth between these two to see what one I actually want to buy.

GTI is the most balanced car as far as daily drivability goes. Just has the perfect mix of speed and comfort. Then u mod the GTI a bit and it’s hard to beat, IMO

i got a 2 door dsg mk6 gti with a stage 1+ cobb tune and god damn it is so much fun to drive. i'm totally biased but i would always pick gti. fun to drive, handles amazingly and not to mention it's hella refined.

Own a 19 GTI with DSG and love it. Want an R though. Tired of tire slip starting out on hills every time it rains.

Can't go wrong with either car. Both have their pros and cons. I own and ST and I'm looking at also getting a GTI.

GTI all the way bro 🥵

I think GTi is still the benchmark. I own a MK7 GTi Stage 2. I’m an adult 34 years old. I use it for my daily and it’s on BC Coils. I think if I was young 17-23 years old a ST is prob more fun. But if you care about refinement and more grown up GTi is a lot better choice. Both are good cars.

You didn't explain the powers of the EA888 GEN 3 engine. This is vw's third refinement in making this engine fixing problems along the way. It is so good you can flash a 220hp GTI to 300HP with just a simple flash tune on stock. Overall I think the Focus ST is a more fun car to drive but when it comes to quality and comfort it belongs to the GTI.

Id go with the GTI between these. Only because in my opinion smaller is better. The focus is a big car compared to the gti. Thats the same reason i would choose a Fiesta ST over the Focus ST- and I did. But if interior quality is a big concern, keep this in mind- the Fiesta ST interior makes the Focus ST interior feel nice.. its a special kind of cheap plastic when you get into a fiesta. It can be nice, but it takes a lot of added sound deadening and modifying door handle covers that should have been attached firmly from the factory- that sort of thing.

I love my 19 Golf Alltrack SE. Not saying anything negative about the Ford. After all, it’s an American machine and that in of itself is cool. I just love my VW. Love the tight interior and that thud you hear when you close the door.

I went from a 16 Focus with the touch screen and leather and all that, to a 17 ST1. Personally don’t miss it, would rather put that money towards mods than the ST3 package. Lots of people are willing to sell their ST3 recaros also ;)

I own a stage 2,mk6 gti best hot hatch for everyday community. Power is there,then when you want peace it just delivers plain and simple.

great video but the thing is the ST is completely rocked out with modifications where the GTI is much more subtle which makes it a big difference if you were to then completely mod out the GTI then it would be more of an even playing field....i own a Mk4 GTI myself and i can tell you the GTI modified correctly will give the ST a run for its money

I absolutely love the GTI... and I bought an ST 😂 this episode hit me in the feelz

Ive only driven a GTE with the DSG, but that is a really fun car imo

“They did depreciate pretty hard” ST2’s with 70k miles going for $25k post pandemic 😂

Got to be the golf

How about mini trucks next time, maybe Mazda B2200 vs Nissan Hardbody, which gives me an idea So you want a Nissan Hardbody Nice vid, keep up the great work

Focus ST vs Speed3 is more like a competition

Definitely going with the GTI if I had to choose a fun daily/street car. You get luxury, speed, comfort, space and backseats with lots and lots of aftermarket support because….VAG!

Just got a mk7gti going to upload it to the gallery when I get some aero on it

if you guys are doing similar cars and stuff ill definitely love to too 350z vs g35 comparison

I wanna get a better view of the interior on the cars in this series!! Loving the videos so far though.

Golf gti all the way

I have a mk5 GTI and just bought a ST3. Wanted to try something different.

closest thing to DRIVER TO DRIVER MK7 ill take it

I’m proud do be a member of the focus gang

I have owned both ( 2015 gti and currently 2015 st) as much fun as I had in the gti I much prefer the st it is so much more exciting and lively. The gti was comfy and very well put together but the st is just got that look at me appeal and is a bit faster

Without a gti, the focus st may not exist

Worked for ford and Volkswagen and drove both. Both awesome cars. St is a little more wild and fun feeling gti is a little more refined and … intentional. Both sre great cars wither way ford will cost less for most things but as I said both awesome cars hard to for wrong

Golf my guy

I have both .. both of them are awesome cars but I’ll take the GTI with the DSG

Love my MK6. Freaking awesome fun car.

As a Mk7 gti owner that focus looks legit !

Got my first check engine light 4 weeks into buying my gti

Well for me I'm 18 and my first car is a 2009 volkswagen gti 2.0t tsi 2-door mk5 6-speed. This car is amazing and is not that loud or slow. So for me i would still choose Volkswagen Gti 100%. Also you forgot to put an (s) in Volkswagen.

Ill go with the GTI since im a mk6 gli owner, im just trying to have That crackle and pops that the st does but not so obnoxiously

Mercedes vs BMW , 190E vs E30, or W211 vs E60 , or any other models , but Mercedes vs BMW will make a great video

While the focus st is a new version of the focus... the engine in the focus is something in many other commuter cars like the fusion. The focus st isn’t like a unreliable car rather it is a new version of the focus. Focus has been around for years but they brought back the st and they had some issues here and there with weird wiring and some recalls. I just don’t want people walking away saying the car is unreliable because it hasn’t been made for years like a golf. If you are going to buy either of these cars read online about the issues for the year you are looking and the quirks of the car in general. Test drive the cars you like and then decide cause you don’t want to waste thousands of dollars regretting you got a different car down the line.

Got a mk6 gti, gti all day!!

You guys should make a video on best modded daily drivers

It just depends if you want nice fancy interior from a GTI or 50 more horsepower from factory, add a cobb accessport and your over 300 ft/lb torque . Speed or comfort, what do u prefer

next ep. Honda Civic vs Vw Jetta ; either 1.5t vs 1.4t or 1.5t vs 2.0T or 2.0t vs 2.0t .. the choice is yours

Dem Kanseis on the GTI 🤤

Had an 08 going switched to a 15 st I like the look of the st way better

I choose the Seat Leon Cupra R :p

The whole opening montage I was waiting for the GTI to air out... 😅😅

I know I'm late on this video but I just picked up an st and I did consider the gti but the looks of the st is just far better in my opinion

As a Euro Kid I am obligated to say the GTI, but the ST do be looking sexc 👀

I own a MkV GTI and its an awesome daily :)

I would only disagree about reliability. Pretty sure they are even. This was the 3rd gen of the Focus ST globally. Not sure what you are talking about in reference to that. They just have a different driving philosophy. Focus ST is on it's 4th gen as we speak in europe. The St community has been alive since the early 2000s. It's not new nor small. Focus, Fiesta and Mondeos have had st variants in some cases for more than 2 decades now.

I have an mk5 gti, its 12 years old and because I'm in new York it has some rust spots on the fenders. they are a little expensive to matain via euro stuff. I love it. smooth driving, turbo noises with an intake

i would choose the st over gti because where i live there is a big comunity for the st and parts are cheaper and easier to work with. the seats on the st3 are nice. the gti feels more like a grandad car

The EA888 engine in the new VWs are crazy reliable engines if you keep up basic maintenance. It’s the older 1.8T GTIs to look out for 😄