Ford Raptor Towing Issues SOLVED! Was my new Trailer a BAD BUY?

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Ford Raptor Towing Issues SOLVED! Was my new Trailer a BAD BUY?

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Last November after taking delivery of our 2020 Polaris RZR Pro Xp I realized that I needed to make some major upgrades to both my truck and trailer set up if I ever had hopes of towing both of my side by sides somewhere. So, the search for a new truck began and I settled with this used Ford Raptor. Admittedly not the best tow vehicle but I was swooned by its smooth ride and crazy power. Then I began searching for a trailer that could carry both of our UTVs. This proved to be quite challenging since most trailers over 24 feet long are heavy equipment trailers that are way to heavy. I landed on this modified mobile home trailer some one had built specifically for towing their 4x4 units. I later discovered that the load was far too great for the raptors soft suspension. This is when I discovered how big of a difference weight distributing hitches make. This $300 dollar set up saved me a world of head ache!
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@tannermarriott8903 4 жыл бұрын

"not the best idea" to put it over the axels. That exactly what you're supposed to do smarty pants.

@BryanAgapito 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking

@Pawan2013 4 жыл бұрын

the load should be basically centered over the trailers axles with some tongue weight.

@RyanRKJ 4 жыл бұрын

Usually tongue weight should be 10-15% of trailer weight.

@nwwoodsman2545 4 жыл бұрын

You should really watch some towing instructional videos. Or ask someone to help you. How to properly distribute trailer weight

@kevinwilson3686 4 жыл бұрын

Now you have a great excuse to get another truck! "honey, we need a diesel!"

@TRAININGFLAME 4 жыл бұрын

You also didn't say "Thats not going anywhere" when you tightened down the side by sides and I'm slightly disappointed

@DMAX-ed7pq 4 жыл бұрын

Should have loaded the 2 seater first to reduce your tongue weight. Load the 4 seater second to let it sit right over the trailer axles.

@RyanRKJ 4 жыл бұрын

Oh man, there are so many KZfaq experts in the comment section when it comes to towing. Every time I see a video where anything lighter than a diesel HD has a trailer hooked up, commenters are clamoring for a bigger truck, or airbags, or a multitude of other things. I'll only say to get your information from credible sources, understand applicable laws, and abide by them. Happy and safe travels to ya!

@541overland7 4 жыл бұрын

A good way to help with the sag is to get airbags for the rear. My dad has some on his tundra and it helps with the trailer sag.

@Fr33Goat 4 жыл бұрын

Bags will level the truck, but they actually put more weight on the rear axle. Weight distribution hitches actually transfer the weight through the frame to the front axle.

@The_Lost_Alaskan78 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a raptor, it’s not meant for hauling heavy stuff. I had one and they have the power, just not the suspension. Airbags will fuck up the way the suspension is supposed to work and handle when going fast off road.

@rwright872 4 жыл бұрын

I spotted you and des on I5 a few weeks ago. Gave you a 👍 and a ✌️ from my white Tundra. I knew right away it was you guys when I spotted that bad ass triple axel trailer being pulled by a Raptor.

@lanceleibnitz7705 4 жыл бұрын

Max. I have said it multiple times...a towing vehicle is a diesel 3/4 ton and up.

@kecknj 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah dude like 6 times in this one thread. Lay off.

@robertstoll1699 4 жыл бұрын

Put can am on first

@chrishamilton4501 4 жыл бұрын

It would also help if you put the 4 seater in the back over the axles with the lighter one up front 🤘🏼

@kornfedjr.outdoors6048 4 жыл бұрын

Hey there! That setup looks pretty sweet, I'm jelly. Lots of the comments recommend air bags, as an alternative to that, look into the Timbren systems. They're rubber helper springs that replace your bump stops. I have a set on my Taco and love them. Put a 1000 pounds of concrete in the bed a couple of weekends ago and the truck was level. Have fun!

@dhfd200 4 жыл бұрын

You were right in loading the SXS in the middle if it is just one. The weight has to be over the axles with a little more to the front to keep the trailer from swaying. Do not put it up front if it is only one.

@steelmill2928 4 жыл бұрын

Dually wheel truck are meant to pull, not a Raptor

@pinoycowboy9110 2 жыл бұрын

Or a regular F-150 not a off road Raptor F-150 lol

@warrenweaver556 4 жыл бұрын

The raptor has a 8500lbs towing capacity. Make sure that you DO NOT exceed that!!!!!!

@built4xploration253 4 жыл бұрын

Warren Weaver Too late!

@ericbuchta9765 3 жыл бұрын

TFL truck. I’m pretty sure they said it was rated at 7k

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Wrong tool for the job. Like bringing a goose gun for deer. My f150 can't do any sweet jumps but it can tow 12k. It's all in the leaf springs.

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

@@ericbuchta9765 those guys are awesome!

@marcruhland2721 3 жыл бұрын

Same issue with my Toyota Tundra, I bought rear air bag suspension. Works like a dream.

@Valkyrie1911 4 жыл бұрын

Uh...over the axles is exactly where the majority of the weight is supposed to go. One could even say its...ideal, to locate it there. Also buy a truck made for hauling.

@tylerbennett2688 4 жыл бұрын

Love when I watch your videos and you find some new gadget that fixes what ever problem your fixing completely. Keep up the great work!

@jeffreywaite2585 4 жыл бұрын

Get helper air bags on the back..

@tonybeltran9198 2 жыл бұрын

It was fun watching this project

@natebarker6461 4 жыл бұрын

Tip for taking the bars off jack it up as high as possible to take the load off the truck it’s a lot easier to take them off

@gregorybowers6375 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Firestone airbags on my Tundra. They help tremendously.

@bryan.12b 4 жыл бұрын

Should’ve put the smaller one up front and the bigger one in the back so u have more ride height on the raptor

@kylegrozelle7737 4 жыл бұрын

good gawd can you please learn how unsafe that towing setup is and share, does it even have brakes ?

@WeBleedGreen1 4 жыл бұрын

Ayooo washington! A couple of things. Load the small one on first and then load the 4 door backwards

@happyyou321 4 жыл бұрын

You can add air bags and still maintain full travel in suspension with Daystar Air Bag Cradle KU09140BK

@94apaulin 4 жыл бұрын

Im so happy you make videos everytime you upload one it makes my day so much better and makes my worst week melt away

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

Dude.. I appreciate you saying that. I needed this motivation this week! 👊

@cjzx325 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I discovered this channel! Looks like a sweet setup. The weight distribution works exactly like your pendulum theory when you loaded the second side by side earlier in the video. The bars push up on the rear of the truck when you add load. They also add stability against trailer sway. Load the heavier side by side last and push both back as far as possible to help decrease tounge weight as well.

@trey_the_mudder_418 4 жыл бұрын

Just put the canned ham on the front and the poolaris on the back 🤦‍♂️

@bravoballer2 4 жыл бұрын

Don't get airbags they only help with sag and dont actually help with weight issues. And also you can remove your trucks spare tire and put it on the trailer and give yourself another 100 lbs of tongue weight to play with.

@joshowens2219 4 жыл бұрын

That wood gets slippery when wet. Make sure you strap those things down good.

@acscustoms1 3 жыл бұрын

Scary as hell that I have to share the road with people like this. Easily you have exceeded the GCVW of the raptor. Deaver springs would help but not get you legal. You also strapped the rzr through the bumper, oh dear... maybe you should not use the comment “can’t afford suspension upgrades” when you have a raptor and a rzr. Think about this, you have over 100k rolling with a $3500 trailer and a few ratchet straps to bolted on bumpers.

@daltonwiseman2985 4 жыл бұрын

The razor looks heavier. You could put it in the back.

@frankyq21 4 жыл бұрын

Nothing beats air bags. You’ll still want air bags eventually. Can get them with DayStar air bag cradles so they don’t interfere with your suspension travel.

@Titantramp4u 4 жыл бұрын

You ran into the Achilles Heel of the Raptor…it’s rear spring package.. You added all that Overland stuff and that along with everything else didn’t leave much load capacity for tongue weight. The WDH is fine BUT..Get a set of Deaver springs in the “+1 HD”…..that will lift the rear end 1” and the HD gives you more arch and spring rate for increased loads. You will be surprised at how well it will handle when off roading and towing. …Yes I own a 18’ Gen2 and love it..

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

I'll deffinitly be doing this. Thanks bro!

@markgarcia3239 4 жыл бұрын

@@Maxx.Powell I added the ICON HD springs in my 2019 Raptor and experience no sag in my XP Pro and 16' trailer that was used at the ranch to haul tractors will full on sprayers. Good thing with ICON is you can add or remove leafs so if you go with the 3 leaf HD you will be more than fine!

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

Titan speaks truth. Watch keepitdirty offroad... he does a lot of rear leaf stuff with his gen2. He has a gen1 now but his 2 was sick until the steering system went to shit.

@The_Lost_Alaskan78 4 жыл бұрын

Ok, for the people that are wanting to put airbags on a raptor. Get a different truck!!!! The raptors are not made to tow heavy stuff. Shocking! Get a 3/4 ton or bigger if you want to haul tons of shit. I had a raptor from 2013-19. It had the power, that wasn’t the problem. The suspension is soft and meant for hauling ass off road. I sold and went with the AEV Ram 2500.

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

Or best of both worlds... I have a 2019 f150 fx4 with tow package and 3.5 ecoboost. Can pull 12k. And it's an stx so it's light... thing is a baby raptor!

@foggydew646 4 жыл бұрын

Max, air bags, air bags, air bags... They will assist in bringing the raptor height to stock, and set up properly will work with the weight distribution hitch. Foggy Dew....

@bbond302 3 жыл бұрын

rocking the whistler bungee shirt. Repping BC yaaaaaaa

@TipOfTheSpear907 2 жыл бұрын

I would back the four seater back after the two seater and you should be a bit more leveled

@MathewV0317 4 жыл бұрын

Using wizardry it distributes weight. Haha. “Your a wizard Harry”

@AscendingBliss 4 жыл бұрын

I've never really cared about trailers, but that is such a freaking awesome trailer. How is it that you always have the most badass things???

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

Haha thanks bro. Idk man. I always keep my eye out for cool stuff and I look for good deals on used stuff that I can easily re sell if needed. Once I know what I want to need I work side jobs and overtime to afford it!

@coyotedes6886 Жыл бұрын

Remember 60/40 weight distribution on the trailer is ideal. 60% of the weight in front of the axle and 40% behind the axle.

@oceanapples 4 жыл бұрын

Nutt to butt! I just had flashbacks to boot camp. The Tremor can do pull that easy.

@adamkasper7866 4 жыл бұрын

look into some airbags for the rear

@chaseadventure 4 жыл бұрын

I know you are trying to keep the truck stock, but you really should look into installing some airbags. They are pretty affordable and you would be able to install them pretty easily. Great video thanks for continuing to make good content even in these crazy times!

@OutDoorMillennial 4 жыл бұрын

Glad the WDH solved your issues. Its crazy how much of an impact those have. Specially for how relatively cheap they are. Love the rig and the toys :p

@ripfletching 4 жыл бұрын

I’m in the Towing industry there is a cheap fix there’s a product called sumo springs there under $200 they will add 1000 pounds to your payload capacity don’t put airbags on a raptor it will mess up your suspension travel but the sumo springs will not

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info man🍻

@CrewCabKaleb 4 жыл бұрын

you need to get deaver progressive leaf springs

@getlostoff-road2820 3 жыл бұрын

Two seater up front

@bmac8130 4 жыл бұрын

You didn’t say “that’s not going anywhere when you tightened the big strap ...Are you even a dad lol. And yes I know you said it when Tyler was questioning the small straps but that doesn’t count.

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

Dammit! You're right! I have failed as a man and as a dad

@bmac8130 4 жыл бұрын

Maxx Powell wouldn’t say that.... but your dad jokes are weak! Lol

@jessewarren2689 4 жыл бұрын

If those are Dayton wheels on the trailer, you might wanna make sure they are legal for your area.

@AndoLife 4 жыл бұрын

Another great fun laid back video Maxx, thank you brotha!

@flappinshad6973 4 жыл бұрын

Sell the raptor for a nice used diesel and all problems are solved :) keep the taco for off-road fun and would have the diesel for towing the sxs 🤘🏼

@J-GIB 3 жыл бұрын

It would take less then 20 minutes to cut off those welds and weld it back on. Hit it with spray paint and you are golden.

@bobsyourmom 4 жыл бұрын

When possible I would load the can am on first then back the razor on that way the engine the heaviest part is over the Axels. Just an idea.

@Metrzan 4 жыл бұрын

The CanAm is shorter though so would put more weight up front. The final shot of the trailer looked perfect.

@cadelangemore3114 4 жыл бұрын

Easy fix: Ford F-350 6.7 Power Stroke

@theninja001 4 жыл бұрын

You can go to a truck stop and use the scales to find out your loaded trailer weight and tongue weight

@jdbusybody 4 жыл бұрын

Maxx dont spend alot for a lift. All you need to fit 37's is Geiser springs it raise front 2 or so inches.

@Sir_Chuckles_Channel 4 жыл бұрын

find the heaviest sxs put it on the back then put the rear tires in that open box area on the back they dont need to be snugged together

@jaymontange8260 4 жыл бұрын

TFL Shows a built in weight indicator for tongue weight on a dial on the tow bar. That way you have a general ideal how much hitch weight.

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

Ooohh that would be sweet

@jaymontange8260 4 жыл бұрын

Maxx Powell etrailer.com. Has a hitch with a built in TW scale. Weight-safe hitch

@redskins1120 4 жыл бұрын

If you’re going to pull that much then you need to trade it for an F250.

@Nolgore 4 жыл бұрын

Can’t jump an F250 stock

@curtisswanson7584 4 жыл бұрын

You need to add air bags to the truck for sure Maxx. Could be a great instructional video.

@birdiebrandon 4 жыл бұрын

Sick setup! Inspired me to get back into the truck world but also try the overland/rzr scene!

@Blue-P51 4 жыл бұрын

Raptor is good eye candy yes... but for towing I’m guessing not so much. I’m only guessing the total weight with two toys on the trailer...? Time for an F-250 or 350.. you’d love it!!

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

Even an f150 with tow package will easily tow that. Mine can tow 12k.

@ericheitman4654 Жыл бұрын

Matt, You made a statement to the effect that if you were to tow out to Oregon, you’d trash your leaf springs. I’m suspicious I did that towing a horse trailer out west as it sagged badly before I left and now that I’m back, it is still sagging without the trailer! The dealer said it was fine, but I don’t buy it. How do I determine if the leafs are shot?

@John98512 4 жыл бұрын

Great job Maxx! It looks awesome. Nice welding job :)

@adventuresbyben7727 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly putting the 4 seater in the back would work better. You dont want all tongue weight you want it close to equal. The raptor should have no issue towing this combination. At most it is 4 k lbs Raptors a rated to tow more than that. Also a guy I ride with tows two 4 seaters with his and has no issues. If you need help with it message my comment I will help you

@AllRightHauling 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't read through all the comments, but did you try switching machine locations? Try the Canned-Ham on the front of the trailer and the Polaris on second. Adjusting the weight is critical.

@johnrobert1053 4 жыл бұрын

I can’t wait to see this in a meme! Get a set of air bags for truck. Between load stabilizer and air bags you’d be golden.

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

Or just... buy a proper truck for towing?

@jamosbikeshop1872 3 жыл бұрын

just get an aluminum side by side trailer and call it good, that thing is so much heavier than it needs to be

@brandongarcia9911 4 жыл бұрын

Should have gotten the tundra😬

@SwerveNSEclipse 4 жыл бұрын

You should look up China Hat/ East Fort Rock in Bend Oregon. Huge OHV area and camping

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

I've been to China Hat its pretty rad out there. Id love to take the UTVs out there

@SFDearing1 4 жыл бұрын

You need to weigh the rig all loaded at a Cat Scale and then check your GVWR, GAWR, TONGUE WEIGHT RATING....if you are overweight you are liable in court of law for damages should you be in an accident and are found at fault. Your insurance company will also wash their hands of you if you are not legal in all categories when towing on public roadways.

@naterobinson6570 4 жыл бұрын

Try putting the can am in front of the rzr. It might work better.

@justinlivermore8956 4 жыл бұрын

Wat would help is to load the pro 4 in the back cause more of that weight will be on the axels.

@J-GIB 3 жыл бұрын

Why would you put the heavier one in front?

@LOOKFAST 4 жыл бұрын

@maxpowell 541 overland beat me to the comment but you can get air bags with compressor for about 500 and also put a quick connect to a compressor for a air hose to fill tires and other things while over landing . And adjust your bags on the fly.

@apexpredator55 4 жыл бұрын

easy answer get a tundra

@Jtwizzle 4 жыл бұрын

All these people screaming air bags... WDH was the real solution and glad you went that route. I am just curious how much payload capacity you actually have left with that kind of load.

@RyanRKJ 4 жыл бұрын

Running rough numbers, it looks like with the tongue weight, bed rack, and family, the Raptor would be at approximately 100% payload.

@RandomStuffGarage619 2 жыл бұрын

@@RyanRKJ yup those max out QUICK. leafs on them are meant for flex, not load

@Metrzan 4 жыл бұрын

Trailer looks good in the end. Definitely dont want to transport 1 of them all the way in the front. Only 60% of the load should be on the tongue.

@megmartinez3850 4 жыл бұрын

A wise man would put the can am on first then back the rzr on so both engines are over the trailer axles.

@paulgrice6766 4 жыл бұрын

Is that three Pontiac Fieros I see at your friend Tyler's brings back memories I had a 86 GT

@tylerpuccio9883 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry Maxx but I'm going to be part if the hate mail on this one. You have not once mentioned any numbers of weight/towing specs. I would recommend you take the time to crunch the numbers and see what you come up with. Maybe try a CAT scale.

@jorgemacias6092 4 жыл бұрын

Good purchase excellent

@built4xploration253 4 жыл бұрын

Maxx, you definitely need to invest in some real straps. You NEED 8 straps, 1 for each corner of each vehicle. Right now you have 1 strap holding the front side by side. If you lose it you will lose the load. You NEED redundancy for safety. Otherwise you could by liable!

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

100% agree! Thanks bro

@A.Jacked 4 жыл бұрын

Probably would want to throw the 4 seater in the back of the trailer and the two in the front

@cjN4Lholness 4 жыл бұрын

Best Channel out there!

@cbchevy74 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not to concerned about the suspension, I’m more worried about your panic stoping, are you within the capacity of what the truck can safely stop? My 2019 3500 Cummins could easily pull 3 or 4 18 wheelers, that’s not a problem. It’s stopping all that weight that you need to worry about.

@Maxx.Powell 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah thats a concern of mine as well. The trailer is wired for brakes but two of the axles are not working properly, so before we do any real trips with this thing I want to make sure all the brakes are serviced. I'll keep you guys posted in future videos

@cbchevy74 4 жыл бұрын

Maxx Powell just please stay safe, if you need anything in the Vancouver WA area ever hit me up. I don’t mind lending a hand if needed.

@willigator 4 жыл бұрын

Would putting the Rzr in the back help?

@CampingRuss 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely need airbags 5000 pound air lift kit in the back I agree with Tyler I did that with my truck I love them last time I checked my springs one was busted so keep an eye on the springs but my airbags definitely saved them great job on that trailer welding it to the sway bars that’s a big ass trailer to bro, I definitely need my next toy to be side-by-side two person that’s the next toy for camping Russ toys. 😆 ok 👌🏼🔥🤠🔥Camping Russ out ps tell Tyler I said hi 👋🏻