Former FBI agent discusses key evidence in University of Idaho student killings

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Former agent and FBI profiler Mary Ellen O'Toole discusses the murders of four college students at the University of Idaho with CBS News' Vladimir Duthiers and Elaine Quijano. She discusses what evidence investigators may be looking at in their search for the killer or killers.
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@shirleylambey1553
@shirleylambey1553 Жыл бұрын
That's horrific i believe they knew their killer
@jerryjanik480
@jerryjanik480 Жыл бұрын
I believe they knew their killer and I believe the killer was a classmate of that this killer was a classmate and that they had a he had a bad experience with the victims of this crime he was and he's a loner and he's a white supremacist that's just an it just seems like because I know Idaho has a lot of militant groups and that's the first thing that I thought of when I heard about this
@Michael-yl6hc
@Michael-yl6hc Жыл бұрын
Get a psychic! Get a psychic! I suggest you contact Amy Allen she will lead you directly to the killer
@shirleylambey1553
@shirleylambey1553 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-yl6hcpsychics dont even know themselves they themselves R in a lost world JESUS is the revealer of secrets nothing is hidden from his eyes he sees all i repeat all things he is the light of the world not psychics sorry Michael u erred in that belief turn to Christ trust him he will show u things to come
@robertswift8708
@robertswift8708 Жыл бұрын
Take a closer look at law enforcement. You will find the suspect.
@libbyworkman3459
@libbyworkman3459 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone shows up who sounds like she has common sense and has thought about this particular crime. A lot of so-called experts have jumped in front of cameras on this one.
@phototristan
@phototristan Жыл бұрын
Including the Idaho police
@katherinekaufman9856
@katherinekaufman9856 Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was my thought as well! Ms O'Toole made some sense of this insanity.
@oopurpledove
@oopurpledove Жыл бұрын
I came here to say exactly that. I hope they call on her again for this investigation.
@oopurpledove
@oopurpledove Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what her title is?
@garythomas4936
@garythomas4936 Жыл бұрын
100% You can tell she is a true expert instead of just a camera seeker. I'm sure the FBI has a team of such experts working on this. It is so disturbing and disgusting for anyone who is familiar with the U. of I. and the special town of Moscow to try and process this. My thesis is this horrific crime was committed by someone either passing through on highway 95 or someone new to Moscow. In the past few decades the most terrible crimes commited in Moscow have been committed by OUTSIDERS, bringing their insanity and terror into a wholesome and peaceful community.
@joanfinholt7274
@joanfinholt7274 Жыл бұрын
And this woman is an excellent example of what I think is a profiler. Outstanding interview! Clear, concise......obvious expertise.
@bsktballman08
@bsktballman08 Жыл бұрын
Too much speculation. This video is meant to entertain us, not to inform us.
@jamesjazzy8040
@jamesjazzy8040 Жыл бұрын
Wrong- see my notes above
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
And yet she has Never found one missing or Murdered Indigenous Person. But some white kids dealing fentanyl and getting popped...such a tragedy lol -COMANCHE NATION
@lucy2014
@lucy2014 Жыл бұрын
Joan, I absolutely agree with you. She seemed to know exactly what she was talking about, and made it easy for any of us to understand
@nuracaicedo2632
@nuracaicedo2632 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Bella_Obscura
@Bella_Obscura Жыл бұрын
I watched so many profilers, retired detectives, and other experts speak about this case…Mary Ellen O’Toole is in a league of her own. by far the most informative interview I’ve seen in this case thus far considering what little information we have. Please please please have her on again!!
@janet5135
@janet5135 Жыл бұрын
She's calm and speaks careful and with clarity.
@georgiesimmons5924
@georgiesimmons5924 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree all the others don't even compare she is extremely informative
@tracy7275
@tracy7275 Жыл бұрын
I agree the others are not really profilers
@skatebug6115
@skatebug6115 Жыл бұрын
100% agree, very informative indeed.
@FirehorseCreative
@FirehorseCreative Жыл бұрын
She sounded and came across as VERY thoughtful. I came away feeling educated and disheartened at the same time.
@TheTexasmick
@TheTexasmick Жыл бұрын
Man, this is a great interview. This lady really knows what she's talking about. Very, very chilling.
@AM-ry8is
@AM-ry8is Жыл бұрын
is she the one that interviewed the green river killer?
@alos4025
@alos4025 Жыл бұрын
I hope she gets her own show based on this interview. She’s so concise and well spoken. Every detail has been carefully reviewed and thought out by her. She definitely knows what she’s talking about.
@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477
@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 Жыл бұрын
Better yet I hope she gets more funding at the forsensic science department, I imagine she is an amazing professor
@aarongomez2032
@aarongomez2032 Жыл бұрын
What details does she know, she is not part of the investigative team, no access to any of the evidence. She is all generalizations without any basis of the particulars of this case.
@mariantreber8055
@mariantreber8055 Жыл бұрын
She said she based it on what's been made public information. It's in this video.
@leavesongrass
@leavesongrass Жыл бұрын
Look her up. She’s an expert. Been doing this forever.
@bryanfox2735
@bryanfox2735 Жыл бұрын
I disagree!!
@PixelKing548
@PixelKing548 Жыл бұрын
Truly the best expert I've seen speak about the murders. She pointed out things that other experts didn't.
@nyd2021
@nyd2021 Жыл бұрын
💯
@barbaralemere5183
@barbaralemere5183 Жыл бұрын
OYou ll😊😊😊
@MissGumShoeMeg
@MissGumShoeMeg Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! 💯
@Minnowlawl
@Minnowlawl Жыл бұрын
Definitely not afraid to speak what she has to say!
@thechiefwildhorse4651
@thechiefwildhorse4651 Жыл бұрын
Except the fact these kids were dealing fentanyl out of their house. The bf showed up with a new supply from Arizona and they got robbed -COMANCHE NATION
@jennywilliams531
@jennywilliams531 Жыл бұрын
This lady is amazing! Her demeanor, tone of voice, & the way she is teaching us while being interviewed
@hakimbandaru1915
@hakimbandaru1915 Жыл бұрын
This is fake.everyone knows women can’t go outside without a man.
@seanpowell1661
@seanpowell1661 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Mary Ellen was featured on the HLN 6 part special, " Capturing The Golden State Killer" in 2018. She's definitely an expert on this subject!
@alycat9186
@alycat9186 Жыл бұрын
Yes! Totally agree!! And the teaching part is spot on!!
@jnformisano6771
@jnformisano6771 Жыл бұрын
What a concise professional. Why has she not been brought in on this case? She is simply amazing. Bravo ma'am
@MsBELLE7
@MsBELLE7 Жыл бұрын
Because she is Former FBI, so unless she is free lancing, and works probono or for a price that families can afford she won't be called in.
@Gizm4445
@Gizm4445 Жыл бұрын
Firmer do you read
@SubRosa33
@SubRosa33 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure she has input
@sj9410
@sj9410 Жыл бұрын
@@SubRosa33 yeah that's not how it works
@barneyronnie
@barneyronnie Жыл бұрын
And what would she do differently??
@blahblah4129
@blahblah4129 Жыл бұрын
The best expert I've seen on these murders. Her calm tone is fantastic; I felt that she talked to, not at, us.
@DeeDee-wx7fi
@DeeDee-wx7fi Жыл бұрын
Right. I notice that she listens when asked a question and answers with knowledge and makes it clear if something is a possibility or a actual fact. Very seasoned in her field
@lisavanderpump7475
@lisavanderpump7475 Жыл бұрын
@@DeeDee-wx7fi isn't that basic 101 lol
@ChrisCoombes
@ChrisCoombes Жыл бұрын
The best guest expert I've seen speak about this.
@therewasacrookedman5892
@therewasacrookedman5892 Жыл бұрын
...best dressed, also?
@USAneedsaChange
@USAneedsaChange Жыл бұрын
agree
@thebeasters
@thebeasters Жыл бұрын
Because she actually is a doctor and well experienced not some random wacko that wrote a book
@debbiefinney5779
@debbiefinney5779 Жыл бұрын
Could there have been 2 people murdering them? They could've been friends with the surviving roommates?? A set up of jealousy...hate???
@lorettanericcio-bohlman567
@lorettanericcio-bohlman567 Жыл бұрын
@@therewasacrookedman5892 I’ll take substance over style anytime these days
@380LadyVex
@380LadyVex Жыл бұрын
Mary Ellen O'Toole is an ICON in FBI behavior analysis. I've watched many interviews with her and her knowledge is extremely valuable and always spot on. Please give her a TV show. She's honest about her opinions, delivers clear and concise reporting and draws viewers.
@Karen-mu7fq
@Karen-mu7fq Жыл бұрын
Dr. O'Toole
@barneyronnie
@barneyronnie Жыл бұрын
Nah, there's enough crap on TV.
@barneyronnie
@barneyronnie Жыл бұрын
@@Karen-mu7fq Most Ph.Ds, myself included, seldom use that honorific. My students and fellow researchers address me as Reinhold. I'm a theoretical physicist. We are focused more on our work, rather than our vanity!
@gmamah9559
@gmamah9559 Жыл бұрын
And stylish!! Love her!!
@Karen-mu7fq
@Karen-mu7fq Жыл бұрын
@@barneyronnie Absolutely, at work, among familiars. KZfaq is not among familiars. Addressing a female doctor as doctor is about respect, not vanity. Using overfamiliar terms for women is a form of subtle sexism. I see it and it matters.
@lindarockower6028
@lindarockower6028 Жыл бұрын
Just googled this lady, Mary Ellen O'Toole, and found she has written three books. She's THE most prolific profiler out there and is regarded as the top expert in psychopathy... Can't wait to read her books!
@peterhernandez7817
@peterhernandez7817 Жыл бұрын
She Broke the Green River Killer. Had him confessing to over 25+ murders. Where he hid or discarded the bodies. She is a great in the profiling industry.
@theunquietmindpodcast
@theunquietmindpodcast Жыл бұрын
Thanks that info, I’ll definitely look up her books. She’s a brilliant woman and is clearly an expert. My heart and condolences go out to the families.
@lloydchristmas1086
@lloydchristmas1086 Жыл бұрын
What about Hannibal Lector?
@kriswilliams8866
@kriswilliams8866 Жыл бұрын
@@lloydchristmas1086 what does a fictional character from a book and movie have to do with this?
@shannonmathiscowen8682
@shannonmathiscowen8682 Жыл бұрын
I hope the people in this community are hyper-aware of anyone with SCRATCHES and CUTS to their hands, face, arms, etc. Even though this person may not seem like a monster..may be seemingly calm, cool & collected.. *if you see scratches or cuts on someone don't ask questions -report it to local authorities ASAP.* I hope everyone stays safe and this killer is brought to justice asap🙏.
@furryfury.
@furryfury. Жыл бұрын
THIS! Or otherwise, somebody who is going off the radar/lying low at present (out of town, on a “holiday”, sickness, etc) could be the suspect hiding his injuries.
@EhCloserLook
@EhCloserLook Жыл бұрын
But I feel this crime has happened so long ago already that those wounds could have healed over already!
@lionr1470
@lionr1470 Жыл бұрын
If so, then they got DNA.
@stephenneil9345
@stephenneil9345 Жыл бұрын
People need to realize. If he was wearing gloves chances cutting himself is lower and if it was a ka-bar/ hunting knife it has a guard which even further lowers the chances.
@carolinecutler9080
@carolinecutler9080 Жыл бұрын
Considering that it’s winter it’s easy to hide wounds with heavy clothes.
@leavesongrass
@leavesongrass Жыл бұрын
Mary Ellen you are a jewel. Your gentle and compassionate voice shows your caring while helping us face the truth about these monsters among us. Thank you!
@Matthew-rs4hb
@Matthew-rs4hb Жыл бұрын
I love this Analyst. So calming but informational!! I hope she provides more updates
@marymotherofgod4861
@marymotherofgod4861 Жыл бұрын
I ❤ this woman please keep us posted on this heinous crime I feel so terrible for their families 😢🙏💜
@garythomas4936
@garythomas4936 Жыл бұрын
"Such a brutal attack." A true expert here instead of somebody just wanting to get their mug in front of the camera: "Perpetrated frequently on strangers. And this type if violence is often times the kind of violence we see used by people who are psychopathic... people who are profoundly lacking in empathy and guilt..."
@OddWoz
@OddWoz Жыл бұрын
She wore her best fur. 🙄
@hhunstad2011
@hhunstad2011 Жыл бұрын
But the neck fur...... cracks me up 😆
@MexicoTijuana741
@MexicoTijuana741 Жыл бұрын
She doesn’t know what happened. FBI knows a little bit but they do not release it to public. It was probably drug and money related. Maybe some crazy hitman that didn’t care about leaving evidence because he catches the first flight to a different state. Then out of the country. Weird how she bought a very expensive jeep and was going to Europe for 6 months. 50,000 dollars for a jeep, the euro 💶 is more than the dollar. Something fishy there. Just a plane ✈️ ride to Europe is about 2,000 then to stay there for 6 months, wow! Baller status!
@3John-Bishop
@3John-Bishop Жыл бұрын
House of Horrors
@invadingminds
@invadingminds Жыл бұрын
@@hhunstad2011 😂This is her debut
@decafmocha211
@decafmocha211 Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis by this former FBI agent...impressive
@gemmalocatelli5916
@gemmalocatelli5916 Жыл бұрын
She obviously knows what she's talking about. Thank you for this educational insight.
@ramonatamaresis7430
@ramonatamaresis7430 Жыл бұрын
Thats what she gets paid for
@truthseeker8752
@truthseeker8752 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic subject matter expert- Mary Ellen O'Toole. This is what I'd call true investigative journalism by bringing on true experts to bring insight onto the case. Great job!
@jmills5420
@jmills5420 Жыл бұрын
What an intelligent woman just oozing with character.
@jj-nh8lz
@jj-nh8lz Жыл бұрын
A former member of the FBI behavioral analysis team. She would have to be top notch individual, extremely well trained and experienced
@boogieboard7420
@boogieboard7420 Жыл бұрын
Why oozing 😖
@ingrid_inthesky
@ingrid_inthesky Жыл бұрын
@@boogieboard7420 Why did you have to make that weird?
@makeitrainmoodymane874
@makeitrainmoodymane874 Жыл бұрын
@@ingrid_inthesky it’s already oozing with weirdness 😂
@wraynephew6838
@wraynephew6838 Жыл бұрын
The key to this case is going to have to come down to forensics. It is impossible for a person to commit this type of crime and do not leave behind some sort of forensic of even genetic evidence. I would not be surprised if Familial DNA is used to solve this case
@leonardtarbert9270
@leonardtarbert9270 Жыл бұрын
Whoever did this is following the news on KZfaq and reading the comments. At some time the killer will start commenting and in so doing will reveal something about the killings that is unknow to the public. If the police monitor the comments they will find the killer.
@chesterfinecat7588
@chesterfinecat7588 Жыл бұрын
I joined Ancestry for two reasons - my in-laws begged and maybe it will help my estranged brother's victims, whoever and however many.
@MrHifihifi
@MrHifihifi Жыл бұрын
Familial DNA is an extremely lengthy process & will not always get results.
@KatKrueger
@KatKrueger Жыл бұрын
@@MrHifihifi Exactly. LE has to obtain a very specific warrant to access those databases.
@lesmorris10
@lesmorris10 Жыл бұрын
You mean a family member?
@tabou9856
@tabou9856 Жыл бұрын
I can tell this woman would see through my soul. Her gaze is piercing. Like she can see through darkness. I knew she would deliver interesting notions regarding cold blooded killers. Mary O'Toole thank you for sharing your expertise.
@exmohobobonobo
@exmohobobonobo Жыл бұрын
Yes, and I would add her eyes look like she has seen A LOT of things we, thankfully, haven’t. Haunting eyes.
@tabou9856
@tabou9856 Жыл бұрын
@@exmohobobonobo they do indeed!
@sedg03
@sedg03 Жыл бұрын
I find her to have a nifty sense of humor. When she wants to make her point? She zeroes in w a very serious tone.
@timowen145
@timowen145 Жыл бұрын
@@exmohobobonobo I’m so happy you found her
@sandyroff5918
@sandyroff5918 Жыл бұрын
Love this lady ! Very professional, on point and knows her stuff ! Very Informative. In the end , she will probably have had every point she brought up , come to be true when they find the killer /s …. I really enjoy listening to her as she is so knowledgeable.
@merisa88
@merisa88 Жыл бұрын
This woman is incredible! My God! I could listen to her all day.
@dirtydingus5465
@dirtydingus5465 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous
@ramonatamaresis7430
@ramonatamaresis7430 Жыл бұрын
Thats her job
@alexia8064
@alexia8064 Жыл бұрын
@Account number whatever. what exactly is black privilege…??
@ashdav9980
@ashdav9980 Жыл бұрын
This lady is professional and knowledgeable about forensics, exactly what is needed for solving crimes. She is an expert profiler as well.......profiling criminals actually helps many cases be solved......we seem to have forgotten that as our legal departments have moved into "feelings' business instead of crime solving.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem Жыл бұрын
Analyzing data, collecting evidence, that is what she does, create a profile. Ex Boyfriends, we know what the data tells us, or poker game went mad .....
@janet5135
@janet5135 Жыл бұрын
Honestly your assessment is wrong about moving into feeling movement
@mialia15104
@mialia15104 Жыл бұрын
Is she though? I'm a psych-student and professionals don't really use the terms "psychopath" or "sociopath" anymore, they're both outdated, and psychopath isn't a new word for sociopath, they both mean slightly different things.
@ashdav9980
@ashdav9980 Жыл бұрын
@@janet5135 No, my assessment isn’t wrong, many LE departments have moved towards letting criminals out and glorifying them over victims. “Profiling” in general is deemed “racist” by many when in fact it is needed to solve many crimes. Unsolved cases, especially rapes, have always been a backlog, but now many don’t even become cases as they are let off for political play.
@ashdav9980
@ashdav9980 Жыл бұрын
@@mialia15104 The lady works in forensics and studies crimes and patterns of crimes…pretty sure she knows more about how criminals respond to things than you as a “psych” student. So now psychology departments don’t want to label psychopaths “psychopaths”? Might hurt their little psychopath feelings I guess…..how comical but not surprising. As someone with multiple graduate degrees, including one in science, and by default had a minor in psychology because I had to take so many darn classes, the social sciences have become a joke…literally…..crazy people are still crazy and updating your terminology every couple years to keep oneself relevant doesn’t change that. 🤣🤣
@shannanbegley8189
@shannanbegley8189 Жыл бұрын
Great interview, I’ve learned more from her than anyone in the past week, as far as profiling goes.🙌🏼🙌🏼
@OddWoz
@OddWoz Жыл бұрын
“This person likely has experience being in other people’s homes too” wow. Truly a revelation.
@spiralrose
@spiralrose Жыл бұрын
Maybe she worded it wrong, but what she means to say is fairly easy to comprehend
@truthisoutthere6721
@truthisoutthere6721 Жыл бұрын
Possibly a burglar or he had broke. In previously and rehearsed his crime
@mele1761
@mele1761 Жыл бұрын
Apart from social contact, she could talk talking about burglary or a form of Phrogging - where a individual sneaks into people's homes and watches them sleep.
@jackyadams9228
@jackyadams9228 Жыл бұрын
I think this murderer has been invited into the home and knew the layout well. Weapon may have come from inside the house as well. Many young men, if a man, have experience with knives from hunting and processing the animal. Very interesting case but so sad. This profiler did say he, she or they when talking about the killer if you listen closely.
@mikeconey2164
@mikeconey2164 Жыл бұрын
@@truthisoutthere6721 Burglars, even if seen, rarely become mass murderers.
@seaglass1111
@seaglass1111 Жыл бұрын
Stop putting your lives on social media. Stop putting your face on TikTok. Stop all of this crap. Those kids were all over TikTok, said to have a possible stalker. Social media is a predators best friend. End your narcissism and attention seeking...it could save your life and your kids lives. Seriously!
@KC-ed1dj
@KC-ed1dj Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! I don't understand how people are so comfortable putting their entire life online. Share with your friends if you have to, but why make your social media account PUBLIC? Keep photos of the exterior of your home OFF of social media. Keep the type of car you drive OFF of social media.
@tawannaarmstrongivory
@tawannaarmstrongivory Жыл бұрын
Victim blaming?
@robertmarley8852
@robertmarley8852 Жыл бұрын
If you recall the earlier years of Facebook like 2003 and 2004 They requested a lot of personal info like your address and your phone number I stepped away at that point
@bromontana8100
@bromontana8100 Жыл бұрын
@@tawannaarmstrongivory common sense is not victim blaming. In fact when you go out of your way to broadcast your status and resources then share your location. Not everybody looks at you in awe to celebrate what you have. Most people want to live a safe life without being a Target
@maurad5378
@maurad5378 Жыл бұрын
She makes total sense.
@bambinaforever1402
@bambinaforever1402 Жыл бұрын
Does she? So did she say anything that can be useful? Not a thing
@TaurusQuween
@TaurusQuween Жыл бұрын
This is the most informative, understandable, and clearest message that came from absolutely every person interviewed.
@fokkerd3red618
@fokkerd3red618 Жыл бұрын
This was a great interview. Let's hope the crime scene wasn't compromised.
@taylorfrink1182
@taylorfrink1182 Жыл бұрын
very good expert with good takes. may the victims all get justice very very soon
@Cadladcheese23
@Cadladcheese23 Жыл бұрын
Really great interview. Interesting points and assessment.
@chipmunkpark8826
@chipmunkpark8826 Жыл бұрын
Wow! It was a very insightful interview. Hope to see more of her. My condolences to the family of the victims
@irmasantos5753
@irmasantos5753 Жыл бұрын
SHE'S GOOD THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ONE LIKE HER IN EVERY POLICE STATION IN THE WORLD THATS HOW GOOD SHE IS.
@newgrandma979
@newgrandma979 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview.
@jonathandow684
@jonathandow684 Жыл бұрын
Excellent speaking voice very intuitive . I’m glad that the reporter’s asked good questions and they let her finish her answers without interruption.
@Staceystacey19
@Staceystacey19 Жыл бұрын
Those poor kids I feel so bad for them and their parents. Many prayers and blessings to the parents and may the souls Rest In Peace
@sylviacarlson3561
@sylviacarlson3561 Жыл бұрын
Ms. O'Toole brought up some very intelligent answers that were very thought-provoking. Thank you for interviewing her.
@madeleine7411
@madeleine7411 Жыл бұрын
How articulate and clear. Mary Ellen O'Toole is an excellent commentator. Thank you, Mary Ellen.
@ammaopoku5397
@ammaopoku5397 Жыл бұрын
This is the best expert who has broken things down that makes sense
@Rinaan0907
@Rinaan0907 Жыл бұрын
She has given the best analysis I’ve heard yet.
@ginger7778
@ginger7778 Жыл бұрын
Wow she is so extremely knowledgeable and concise .. they need her helping to solve this crime
@annemarie1454
@annemarie1454 Жыл бұрын
Wanting someone to suffer and die is a very strong, evil feeling. Who could have felt that way toward these four victims? There is someone out there that hated them to the core and wished them the worst. Someone wanted to get rid of them, to eliminate them from the face of the earth. Why would someone feel this way against them? Why would someone go through all the risks and trouble of murdering them? Who could feel and behave in such an extreme way?
@makenzievelazquez6696
@makenzievelazquez6696 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they bullied this individual?? Maybe it’s someone that wanted to be apart of their group and wasn’t accepted. Who knows why people do what they do
@georgecox4093
@georgecox4093 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think she’s great, really experienced, good at separating the act and the emotion without sounding cold. Strikes the line really well.
@luckyp.714
@luckyp.714 Жыл бұрын
The whole thing is very creepy. The most precise psychological, personality analysis. This is exactly what is needed. Never should the main contacts before the deaths be excluded as suspects. Where is the FBI now? Why haven't they spoken? Think about the Gaby Petito case and how much tge FBI did... I think it feels like Idaho is being left too alone on this. The movement is too slow. So much time has passed.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
You never know. They are probably investigating in the background. Don't underestimate them.
@k8marlowe
@k8marlowe Жыл бұрын
Mary Ellen O’toole is a total rockstar. She is iconic in the world of forensic psychology, and to those of us in the true crime community. Her assessments carry weight, IMO. So, if I lived anywhere near there, I would be armed to the teeth.
@Love_Nancy
@Love_Nancy Жыл бұрын
*Lord Jesus was Right there for those GirLs!!!!* *Bad Things OnLy HaPPens to those who ReJect the Lord Jesus!!!* *Look at ME, No BAD THING EVER Happens to Me!!!!*
@browngreen933
@browngreen933 Жыл бұрын
This lady has a very clear, logical and simple manner of explaining this heinous crime. Please have her back.
@AMF96
@AMF96 Жыл бұрын
If all 4 victims really were in bed asleep when the killings happened then the suspect must have either already been in the house to know they were asleep, or near the house watching to see when lights went out and then went in when he/she believed everyone inside the house was asleep..
@geebrewer8186
@geebrewer8186 Жыл бұрын
I saw a report where they thot maybe the killer would watch the house on the upper side from the woods, there were a lot of trees near the front of the house and across the street.
@paullyrenee
@paullyrenee Жыл бұрын
Whoever this was, I feel, has been watching from the back of the house. That may be why Kaylee sensed or felt or maybe even briefly saw this stalker. I too feel like he is a psychopath who will do this again. My hubby thinks he is young and just starting out, maybe so, but it is a predator now.
@rhondapelletier2141
@rhondapelletier2141 Жыл бұрын
Someone said they sold fent out of house too……????
@freedomofpress5605
@freedomofpress5605 Жыл бұрын
Good point. I don't think the killer would have gone in if they weren't sure that everyone was asleep. An interesting point about "already been in the house". Could they have been hiding inside waiting? We sometimes hear about someone secretly living in an attic or crawl space without the people knowing they are there (a rare thing but it does happen). If that was the case then it probably would have been easy for the killer to know the habits of the victims, possibly some sort of obsession. I hope we will know soon and whoever did this is locked away forever.
@AMF96
@AMF96 Жыл бұрын
@@freedomofpress5605 I’m wondering if the killer was watching the house near by, saw all of the house members leave and then went in and hid for hours until all of the house members returned home and then struck once everyone was asleep.. like you said probably not very likely that the killer had been hiding in the house for a long period of time.. but not completely un heard of.. I remember the case of the Denver Spiderman from way back in like the 40’s or 50’s where this guy hid in a couple’s attic for months in their Colorado house before being discovered.. seems like he killed one if not both of them if I’m remembering right..
@carefulconsumer8682
@carefulconsumer8682 Жыл бұрын
The doctor has been one of the most informative imo. Pls have her back on in a few days for follow up. No wonder George Mason College has an excellent reputation.
@ThatsMyBlackOpinion
@ThatsMyBlackOpinion Жыл бұрын
Doctor??
@ChandraNYC
@ChandraNYC Жыл бұрын
@@ThatsMyBlackOpinion PhD
@barneyronnie
@barneyronnie Жыл бұрын
@@ThatsMyBlackOpinion PhD. Most PhDs, like myself, seldom use this honorific.
@jennifergiannantonio7764
@jennifergiannantonio7764 Жыл бұрын
the top profilers out there are usually Clinical Psychologists
@IAmJeka
@IAmJeka Жыл бұрын
This is finally someone that shares something productive man. I feel like every one else just repeats what the cops says.
@angelwatching1921
@angelwatching1921 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely heartbreaking. My deepest condolences and prayers go out to all of the families and the friends of these young people who were taken much too soon in such an unjust and cruel manner. Praying for justice and strength for these families.
@kkFitdance
@kkFitdance Жыл бұрын
Chilling! Hopefully the digital footprints will lead to a suspect.
@eckankar7756
@eckankar7756 Жыл бұрын
Really reasonable possibilities to consider. I hope she will be more involved in the evidence in this case.
@RawOlympia
@RawOlympia Жыл бұрын
contaminated evidence. lazy cops didn't even tape the driveway/yard off until 10 days later when a news reporter shamed them. killer's best secret ally was the moronic 'investigation'. Where are the arrests for the buddies who came over to gawk at bodies and contaminate the crime scene, obstructing justice even further? They jus thinkin bout turkey and pie. No lockdowns. Nuthin'.
@IAmJeka
@IAmJeka Жыл бұрын
Man I wish this lady spoke about more cases in general. Very insightful
@madelinerose5326
@madelinerose5326 Жыл бұрын
Best interview and input yet on the dangers associated with this incident.
@christopherdaly1399
@christopherdaly1399 Жыл бұрын
The eyes of the world are riveted on this case. I know mine are. Totally agree with the FBI Doc that the community is at risk and that there is a high probability of a repeat performance on the part of whoever did this... especially the longer he/she eludes arrest.
@garythomas4936
@garythomas4936 Жыл бұрын
Moscow is a VERY SAFE town filled with very decent people/family/students. It has been OUTSIDERS who have brought their terror into this peaceful town. There was one nutcase who shot up the Moscow Police Station within the last couple of decades and another nutcase who killed a wonderful man and pillar of the community. In both of those cases it was OUTSIDERS new to Moscow. My gut tells me this is also the case here.
@EhCloserLook
@EhCloserLook Жыл бұрын
IDTS. I think the perpetrator is in hiding and terrified to come out of hiding.
@sedg03
@sedg03 Жыл бұрын
@@garythomas4936 that is a very common feeling to *WANT* to blame a stranger. It's not dissimilar to covid and masks. Theres a tendency to think 'oh, this is my neighbor, hes ok, i can take my mask off' .. or? 'She works at the pharmacy, so i can lower my mask talking w her', or... 'they went to my h.s., i know them and dont look sick= no masks'... Same w this killer. "Still waters run deep" applies here. Everyone needs to not trust anyone else right now? And use *ALL* your safety hints, tips n techniques ;) Just sayin...
@christopherdaly1399
@christopherdaly1399 Жыл бұрын
I just cannot believe they don't have a suspect. There's only about two dozen people in the whole state, correct?
@joinjen3854
@joinjen3854 Жыл бұрын
@@christopherdaly1399 about 25k in Moscow. 8 miles west is Pullman Washington maybe a bit larger.
@dogscratchedoor
@dogscratchedoor Жыл бұрын
Her expertise and willingness to share told us more than any other source so far. Thank you for making a point about people who live there still being under threat.
@tinazaccagna1459
@tinazaccagna1459 Жыл бұрын
Incredible profiler . She was so clear and concise . They need to catch this monster ! 😢
@_mr_cat
@_mr_cat Жыл бұрын
😢
@wulfwood04
@wulfwood04 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it took about 9 hrs to call the cops was very suspicious
@lyndayates7533
@lyndayates7533 Жыл бұрын
And all of the friends who showed up to taint the crime scene. Maybe they had to get rid of drugs. Idk.
@eh1702
@eh1702 Жыл бұрын
The two who survived have rooms that are a kind of semi-basement. The entrance is to the middle floor of the house. Seen from some angles, the house does not look like a three story house. The surviving roommates got home around 1:45-2:00am. So it would be perfectly normal after a Saturday night drinking that they slept deeply and didn’t even get out of bed till 11-12 next day.
@lyndayates7533
@lyndayates7533 Жыл бұрын
It does sound like they had a lot of drugs and maybe even sold them. Hate to speculate. I still think it's important to know and investigate.
@jj-nh8lz
@jj-nh8lz Жыл бұрын
Seems strange but other roommates on another floor, heavy sleep after drinking.
@chaos120
@chaos120 Жыл бұрын
They were sleeping. It didn't take 9 hours once they woke up.
@anthonyhebisen
@anthonyhebisen Жыл бұрын
Wow, so much admiration for this expert. What a masterclass of a truly informative and eye opening insight . When Mary Ellen talks, you better listen .
@lindarockower6028
@lindarockower6028 Жыл бұрын
Finally an expert who knows what they're talking about. Great interview!
@lucasdickson7510
@lucasdickson7510 Жыл бұрын
This is the best interview I’ve seen on this. So much stupid speculation, but her explanation avoided that and gave really good info.
@bt1530
@bt1530 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an amazing analysis. Extremely thorough and a very compelling subject matter expert. She left no stone unturned. Her insights left me wanting to hear more...
@annmarieknapp2480
@annmarieknapp2480 Жыл бұрын
Just awful. I'm a professor and my students are precious to me. Instead a student to illness 2 years ago and it still hurts. This is horrific. My heart goes out to the family, friends, university community, and all of the folks these 4 young people helped in their lives. So damn sad.
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic Жыл бұрын
Ms. Knapp ... Can you explain your phrase, " Instead a student to illness 2 years ago ". Did you lose a student to an illness? Maybe some words were left out.
@nessunodorme3888
@nessunodorme3888 Жыл бұрын
@@PoeLemic It's got to be left out words! After looking for ways typing technique or autocorrect might turn "I lost" to "Instead" I even agonized about why her first and last sentences are really sentence fragments. Eventually I did determine trying to figure out mundane phenomena is probably a side effect of watching true crime videos!
@trailrider7046
@trailrider7046 Жыл бұрын
Professors should know how to proofread their writing before they post. If.professors don't, what hope is there for the rest of us?
@muck4227
@muck4227 Жыл бұрын
@@trailrider7046 she may have been distraught.
@juliadixon8465
@juliadixon8465 Жыл бұрын
She was likely on her phone.
@alycat9186
@alycat9186 Жыл бұрын
This was such a great interview!!! She was very clear, knowledgeable and explained her thought-process behind her observations. Also made sure to make it clear her assessments were based on what the media has been sharing and not involvement with the investigators. I’m sure the FBI misses her expertise!! Thanks for having her on! And my condolences to the victims and their families! I hope they find the killer/killers soon!!!
@nwbklr
@nwbklr Жыл бұрын
Why are you yelling?
@goated3285
@goated3285 Жыл бұрын
Well said & explained, thank you.
@ruthiemay423
@ruthiemay423 Жыл бұрын
This is certainly her everyday apparel... 🤩🤩🤩 Brilliant woman!
@audreydaleski1067
@audreydaleski1067 Жыл бұрын
The killer could have laid on wait since they were out, waiting for them to sleep.
@YaakovEzraAmiChi
@YaakovEzraAmiChi Жыл бұрын
Such beautiful and bright young kids, taken at the very beginning of their lives. What a shame. RIP in peace
@Skj-otd
@Skj-otd Жыл бұрын
She’s awesome!!! Absolutely awesome! I wish she would take control. Maybe we would have better answers. She the first person to actually make sense and give valuable information. Thank you
@Mia-xe9md
@Mia-xe9md Жыл бұрын
This type of interview is much much more informative than the recent speech from the officers, they said everything but nothing. But they had to say something to calm people down (which only riled people up more). People knew better and left the town for the time being, may god protect them from another attack.
@aarongomez2032
@aarongomez2032 Жыл бұрын
There was zero informative information about what she said. It was all generalizations and assumptions that are popularized on TV police procedurals. The actual Moscow officials press conferences have way more information both by what they say and what they are not willing to release yet.
@groofoot
@groofoot Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that she pointed out that 'sociopath' is an old fashioned term, and not really the correct term. A psychopath is a human being (usually sane) who has Zero conscience. A sociopath has a tiny amount of a conscience, and is able to feel a tiny amount of guilt. A psychopath is completely Incapable of feeling ANY guilt or remorse.
@richardsage3139
@richardsage3139 Жыл бұрын
If this was a targeted crime why would you leave two people untouched
@dizzydays
@dizzydays Жыл бұрын
04:21 - i think she pinned it exactly right here, its not easy to commit 4 homicides without experience with that weapon
@anthonyspeer6386
@anthonyspeer6386 Жыл бұрын
Excellent assessment! Finally
@call.me.archie
@call.me.archie Жыл бұрын
Moscow is my hometown. I lost my breath for a minute when she said the public is at risk. Even so, I'd rather know that than be lied to.
@angelad599
@angelad599 Жыл бұрын
Now why does she not have her own show. I really like how she talks, all professional, like she gets it. I would watch her for sure. Give this lady a show I say.
@staceyw.6608
@staceyw.6608 Жыл бұрын
This was the most professional explanation and assumption of the situation I have heard yet.
@AmieMount
@AmieMount Жыл бұрын
Would like to know her thoughts on the surviving roommates calling over friends instead of 911 immediately
@jlorde8838
@jlorde8838 Жыл бұрын
@@kathleenfrances8808 you have no idea what happened, how it happened or how they conducted themselves. Those young women will have survivors guilt help out with the suicide aspect why don't ya!!
@jlorde8838
@jlorde8838 Жыл бұрын
@@kathleenfrances8808 what would ten minutes here or there make? Honestly in the scope of it all? Lighten up.
@elle7899
@elle7899 Жыл бұрын
They called relatives of one of the deceased over to the house because the doors were locked and couldn't get them to answer
@Jah18769
@Jah18769 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are forgetting the roommates are only 20 years old, hungover and possibly scared. If you look at the pictures of them with the victim’s, I just don’t see it. This was someone that lived close by that knew 6 young girls lived there alone. The bf was just wrong place wrong time. Sad all around
@therewasacrookedman5892
@therewasacrookedman5892 Жыл бұрын
​@@jlorde8838 I think they're referring to the extra people walking around (forensically contaminating the scene) before the police can contain the environment, not the time frame. ... for what it's worth.
@joysinner3415
@joysinner3415 Жыл бұрын
Best interview yet. Thank you
@susanray975
@susanray975 Жыл бұрын
Wow! So chilling -.. but so detailed. She really explained it in such detail... awesome guest...
@lisaingram785
@lisaingram785 Жыл бұрын
If 4 victims were stabbed with the same knife, would that mean that you would have at least 4 mixtures of DNA from the 3 prior killings on the 4th person? On the 3 rd victim at least 3 mixtures of DNA? On the second victim at least 2 mixtures of DNA? And on the first victim to be murdered only their DNA? With that being said, can figuring out who was killed first, seconds, third and fourth be determined and with a timeline of the murders? And by combining the mixtures of DNA from the victims, if the killers DNA was present, can we decipher the killers DNA from the mix?
@thesouthpawsurgeon1356
@thesouthpawsurgeon1356 Жыл бұрын
Bring this lady to the crime scene and let her solve the mystery
@msstall5695
@msstall5695 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. She would solve this in no time.
@lesliedaniels
@lesliedaniels Жыл бұрын
She is saying he is another Ted Bundy. I think she's right. He loved doing that and wants to keep doing it.
@jlorde8838
@jlorde8838 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't know that at all.
@ragemodels
@ragemodels Жыл бұрын
@@jlorde8838 but it's very similar to what Ted Bundy did to the Chi omega sorority students back in 1978.
@lesliedaniels
@lesliedaniels Жыл бұрын
@@jlorde8838 She has a PhD in criminology. You may not know what it takes to get a PhD. She does know that.
@sds6303
@sds6303 Жыл бұрын
This attack was 100% targeted & it was very personal. Regardless of the motive, you are dealing with a low functioning psychopath. This person wanted to see their victims suffer, they enjoyed watching them die. The worst part, is that they feel no guilt, shame, or remorse.
@Gypsy_Soul7
@Gypsy_Soul7 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview…she is the best I’ve seen/heard thus far.
@billiegoat1194
@billiegoat1194 Жыл бұрын
That lady is awesome.
@punapeter
@punapeter Жыл бұрын
why?
@billiegoat1194
@billiegoat1194 Жыл бұрын
You don't know Clarice!
@sedg03
@sedg03 Жыл бұрын
@@billiegoat1194 really?
@billiegoat1194
@billiegoat1194 Жыл бұрын
@@sedg03 I was only pulling his leg..should be a no brainer why she's awesome, you could tell she can dissect you from a mile away
@Ŵantedgamer525
@Ŵantedgamer525 Жыл бұрын
This woman has some common sense ! They gotta find this guy.
@sebasfanclub
@sebasfanclub Жыл бұрын
This woman is amazing...she nailed it all!!! I m watching this 2 months after this interview
@maryfitzpatrick3252
@maryfitzpatrick3252 Жыл бұрын
Good overview to questions that remain unanswered.
@cwc8979
@cwc8979 Жыл бұрын
This woman is smart! Enjoyed listening to her 👍
@sandyroff5918
@sandyroff5918 Жыл бұрын
She has lots of great information and all so true as well .
@moemouse4604
@moemouse4604 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Maryellen. Your observations and thoughts are like other profilers Ive heard. I agree. Very scary stuff sadly.
@peterhernandez7817
@peterhernandez7817 Жыл бұрын
Mary is one of the greatest FBI profilers. In the show mindhunters, she is the woman the based the woman profiler im mindhunters around. This lady cracked or made the Green River Killer confess. She is the real deal. Love this lady.
@DeDona1
@DeDona1 Жыл бұрын
Best analysis I've heard so far!
@therose5722
@therose5722 Жыл бұрын
Kaylee's ex-boyfriend used a hunting knife. She broke up with him. She called him at least 7 times that night. Was she perhaps nervous about something and wanted to find out where he was to be sure he wasn't near her? He did not answer her calls. Kaylee's mother made a phone statement that was matter of fact and non-emotional insisting that there is no way Kaylee's ex could do something like that. Was that because she's working with the police to fool him as the cops watch and follow him hoping he'll lead them to the weapon? All while they are gathering all of the DNA and other evidence? They would not want to make him suspicious so they are playing it down along with the mother perhaps. We'll see.
@alcaholic6227
@alcaholic6227 Жыл бұрын
I know he's guilty. He targeted them specifically, not all 6 roommates, just the 4.
@benbelzer8303
@benbelzer8303 Жыл бұрын
And get this, in a picture he's wearing an Iron Maiden shirt, and that group sings a song called Killers about stalking and killing someone with a knife. I actually emailed their tip line about this.
@MrHifihifi
@MrHifihifi Жыл бұрын
I doubt it!
@riveroffire6985
@riveroffire6985 Жыл бұрын
@@MrHifihifi Statistics say it's always the rejected ex partner. He was angry with the break up and blamed her friends. Jodi Arias drove miles to her ex boyfriends house who dumped her and left a mess just like this. So ruling him out as a suspect is irresponsible and amateur.
@ct5625
@ct5625 Жыл бұрын
it's a hunting state. Probably 60% of all males aged 20-70 has a hunting knife.
@robyn220
@robyn220 Жыл бұрын
She’s the most logical person I’ve heard speak on this horrible crime!
@bluej1424
@bluej1424 Жыл бұрын
I am shocked they are claiming some people are inocente this early on. I find the incredibly negligent.
@sedg03
@sedg03 Жыл бұрын
Everthing that gets done? Can be undone;)
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