Is it Worth the Money? Froth-Pak Sealant 200 Spray Foam Insulation

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2 ай бұрын

I bought this Froth-Pak 200 and tested it out for you, So you can see if it's something you want to buy and use yourself. This is their 200 soft kit closed cell insulation. It's a DIY friendly spray foam kit made to help seal the gaps and fill your wall cavities so everything is air tight and well insulated.
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I have done a lot of research on these kits and I decided to go with Froth-Pak specifically because they seemed to be the larger brand name and had better reviews overall. Also the projected sqft of spray per dollar was on the better value side. None of the kits are "cheap" by any means, they all seem to be around $300 and up. So no matter what kit or brand you decide on you can plan to spend a few hundred at minimum.
The set up was very easy, just like it said. No tricks, straight forward. Just a couple things to look out for or pay attention to. I noted them in the video after I sprayed the whole contents. It is a very diy friendly kit and can be easy to get the swing of it. I'd say the biggest thing I learned was changing out my tips more frequently and making sure the bottles are all the way open. Other than that everything else was as I expected. The spray stuck to the vertical surfaces very well. The foam really did harden within 30+ seconds. It expanded very well, almost too well in some areas.
I'd say overall it was a success. I'd like to use another kit in the future for sure and I know I'd be even more successful the next time. But for my first go at it it came out just as I wanted. I'll list a couple Spray Foam kits below for you.
Froth-Pak 200 Spray Foam Kit-
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Froth-Pak 620 Spray Foam Kit-
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Froth Pak 650 Spray Foam Kit-
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VEGA Bond 480 Spray Foam Kit-
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@edbrackin 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking the bullet for the rest of us who were wondering about options.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

lol. Yeah. It was fun to try out. But I wish I could have gotten a lot more out of it. Worked as I expected though as far as how the foam grabs, expands and sets. You’re just paying a premium price to do it yourself.

@user-vn6hi2bi3g 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the demo and now I know to pass on the DIY larger than a rattlecan spray foam products. Once again thanks for taking the time to make the video. Ray Stormont

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

Your very welcome. I was hoping to show people what they can realistically expect when buying one of these kits and how it actually works when you’re applying it.

@raphaelsanchez4797 Ай бұрын

Very helpful video. Thank you for doing this.

@FortKnoxCo Ай бұрын

Your welcome. It was fun to use and finally see first hand how it all works.

@sethbracken 18 күн бұрын

Yeah, thanks for putting down $400 to do this. I’ve been wondering about these for a while now.

@FortKnoxCo 18 күн бұрын

No prob. It was fun to play with but obviously has its limitations and places I would or wouldn’t use it. For a whole house … no way. But for spot sealing or small addition maybe a fun choice.

@caroltalbert3598 29 күн бұрын

Besides closing gaps at the bottom, it's great for filling in around electrical boxes, pipes, and other obstruction that are otherwise difficult to seal and insulate around. If you choose closed cell, doing the entire wall will provide vapor barrier and a good air flow seal.

@FortKnoxCo 29 күн бұрын

I totally agree. It is great for all that. It was fun to use and good to see first hand how it actually applies. I would use it again but for specific applications like you mentioned. If I were to do a whole house to fill entire cavities in place of standard insulation I would probably hire out the job though. Using diy kits could be a little pricey

@dagobey 15 күн бұрын

Thanks Very good information that you put out about the product I feel more comfortable to buy this product and try it out my self instead of spending thousands of dollars to pay a spray foam contractor to do it for me

@FortKnoxCo 14 күн бұрын

You’re very welcome. It was fun to use and overall not too bad. I could have put some stuff down on the floor to make clean up a little easier but even then it wasn’t bad. It does what it’s advertised to do as far as filling gaps and sealing up.

@richardeicholtz4868 24 күн бұрын

There's a lot of terrible videos on this product. Thank you for making a good video that actually talks about the experience of using it and not just what it's suppose to do.

@FortKnoxCo 24 күн бұрын

That’s exactly what I was trying to go for. I saw lots of videos of what it’s supposed to do and it always turned out Perfect it seems. But we all know that’s not how DIY stuff goes. So I wanted to give it a shot and try it out for myself and figured I’d be pretty candid about the experience. Overall, it was fun, but definitely not cost-effective if you’re going to be doing a whole entire house.

@richardeicholtz4868 24 күн бұрын

@@FortKnoxCo Maybe the other guys were sponsored and couldn't afford to be honest? Either way very uninformative. Do you think it's suitable for air sealing an attic? That's what I'd be using it for. If not do you know a product that might be?

@FortKnoxCo 24 күн бұрын

@@richardeicholtz4868 it would depend on how many square feet you are needing to cover and your access ability. It will definitely spray and stick to whatever surface you’re sealing. So it will hit and expand for sure. I’d go for the red box with 650 feet coverage. You can choose the straight spray or fan spray depending on how you want to cover stuff. But it’s good stuff. Just not the cheapest. Unless you compare a quote from another company to see $/sqft. They have those 24 can packs that use a spray nozzle and you can get coverage but from what I could see it doesn’t expand as much as these bigger tank packs and having the stuff actually mix at the nozzle

@richardeicholtz4868 24 күн бұрын

@@FortKnoxCo Got it. Good point on the mix. It's hard to find some clear cut videos on substances to use for air sealing. Plenty videos on how to but not many saying I use "this". I just happened to be in Lowe's rust and saw the stuff there and figured I'd start researching on KZfaq. So worse case I have that to fall back on.

@FortKnoxCo 24 күн бұрын

@@richardeicholtz4868 it will definitely seal air tight. That it will do. You will know best how you want to apply to what area/surface. But it will 100% seal whatever it sticks to. I got A/C running in my casita and I’m about to get my thermal envelope test certificate done. We’ll see what they say as far as the thermal envelope rating.

@donny6016 2 ай бұрын

Great video, I used cans that were 10 years pass expiration and they sprayed fine. I also wish i switched out my tips more because i also had single component spray and it was always random and should have just changed the tip. Brake cleaner is great to clean the foam when wet, spray BC down the tips of needed or let them soak in BC. Also, to remind the group this is the 200 sealant and not the 210 insulation...... The differences idk.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

Awesome info!! Yes the 200, 210 & 650, green box , red box …. All apparently different. The boxes say for sealing or for insulating. They seem to all preform the same as far as how the foam comes out and sprays. I just think they give you more coverage per their defined “board feet”. I do like the cans for a lot of jobs. I always know what to expect with those. I may try one of the 12/24 can kits that come with the spray gun nozzle. Those look fun and maybe get some better control and can pace myself. I felt like once I charged those lines with the two tanks I had to go go go.

@johnsonsinsulation 17 күн бұрын

I recently used Froth-Pak Sealant 200 and found it to be effective for sealing gaps, though it is a bit pricey.

@FortKnoxCo 16 күн бұрын

I agree. It did well with sealing and adhering to the surfaces. Loved that. But yes it’s a bit pricey. I think it’s a good option for a small project.

@johnsonsinsulation 16 күн бұрын

@@FortKnoxCo Thanks for agreeing! For larger projects, I've been looking for more cost-effective options. Have you tried any other products that work well for sealing gaps?

@FortKnoxCo 16 күн бұрын

@@johnsonsinsulation I’ve only tried the single spray cans I’m sure we have all found at the big box stores. But this was the first real spray gun set up I’ve tried.

@rossweaver2128 Ай бұрын

How many sq foot do you believe it would do? I have a former back porch that we built the house on to and want to use it on the bottom of deck to seal up from house.

@FortKnoxCo Ай бұрын

It did about 250+ of linear feet I’d say. I mainly used the straight stream nozzle and I was able to go around this whole perimeter of a 1,900sqft building.

@jeffbosch6319 2 ай бұрын

How do you think this would work on a metal shed? I'm getting a 10' x 14' DYI shed

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

It would work good. Both would get the froth pack 650. The froth pack 200 I got was mainly for sealing stuff. The 650 pack will cover more and give you more of the full wall spray insulation.

@arthurn9237 Ай бұрын

OH AND I WANTED TO SEE HOW THOS STUFF WORKS WITH THE FXN SPRAY TIP TO COVER THE AREA BETWIXT THA 2X4s

@FortKnoxCo Ай бұрын

Yeah, I didn’t do much of that. I want to try another pack on a small project and I’ll use the fan spray

@seephor 2 ай бұрын

Was it worth the $400 though? Seems like you could have got a similar result using the cans that work in the gun for much cheaper?

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

I was thinking about using the cans system, but after doing a lot of video and review research it looked like the way the foam set up wasn’t as thick on a single pass and the cost wasn’t extremely different to offset the chance. So I was about to purchase a set of the cans that had the same or close too board feet of spray but ended up going with Froth-Pack since it was a better product in my opinion. I didn’t want to spend $250-300 on a sub par foam and not just pay the $380-399 on a quality one. I may try one of the can system on a small wall that I plan on insulating in the attic though. If I do I’ll definitely make a video on it to show just how good or bad it is

@seephor 2 ай бұрын

@@FortKnoxCo That makes sense if you used the Froth-Pak as insulation but to my eye, it looks like much of it was just wasted where as with the can system, you could have been much more precise on where the foam went and would probably need much much less to achieve the same air stop. Just my thoughts, maybe I'm not seeing it the same way. Great video though on the process. It's invaluable for anyone wanting to try this out themselves. This solution would be perfect on a basement wall where you get moisture coming through before you framed over it. The closed cell actually blocks moisture where as the open cell stuff sort of sucks it up like a sponge.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

@@seephor I get what you’re saying. Yeah for just sealing corners you could probably get that sealing effect with either system so why not save a little money. The spray cans looked like you could have more time and control possible. I still want to try them out and see for myself. I mainly wanted to use one of these products I’ve seen but actually show maybe the not so good side of doing it yourself. Just how easy or hard they really are , or maybe they are just as user friendly as the other videos show them Out to be. I feel like you can learn more about something when it doesn’t go as planned sometimes.

@_TraMor 2 ай бұрын

The boardfeet claim they make on the insulation foam is purely aspirational. I had to use 3 whole packs at $1k a piece for what should have been a 1 pack and done job. My take on it is that you'll actually save money paying someone to do the work when yields are no where near correct.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

@@_TraMor I agree. I don’t think I got as much out of it as I expected. Especially since I was just shooting it in the corners and not actually sprain the hole inside of the wall cavities. I don’t think I would’ve gotten 200 square feet of wall coverage like that. I know if you read the fine details it will sometimes say board is calculated not necessarily by 1” x 12” but more like 2”x 4” wide. So if you’re not looking closely, it may be a little bit deceiving. Overall, I feel like it’s still accomplished what I wanted, but I obviously paid a little bit of a premium to play around with some foam.

@timfritch6735 10 күн бұрын

Where Did you purchase the product?

@FortKnoxCo 9 күн бұрын

I have links for in the video description. I bought mine at Home Depot because it was the same price as Amazon and I wanted to use it that same day. They are usually pretty close in price

@Beyond_Feral 12 күн бұрын

How do you do electrical repairs in the future?

@FortKnoxCo 12 күн бұрын

Access your electrical which ever way you choose and then when you come across the foam you can break away with hand or tools. It’s not rock hard, can be cut with a blade easily. Break it away from what you want to work on. And then if you choose to you could reform around where you broke apart with the small rattle can spray foams

@cambio24-c7o 18 сағат бұрын

It's good for ever, if you have electrical problem buy other house. Problem solved!

@FortKnoxCo 18 сағат бұрын

@@cambio24-c7o 💯

@spacemonkey2915 22 күн бұрын

If they could make the price right, this stuff would fly off the shelves.

@FortKnoxCo 22 күн бұрын

Yep. I totally agree. If it was very cost effective then I’d have no problem going through the hassle. It’s fun to use. Just hurts the wallet.

@CuriousGeorge-00001 29 күн бұрын

Too expensive! Cheaper to get a pro to do it.

@FortKnoxCo 29 күн бұрын

If you’re going to do a whole house, I would definitely hire it out. The DIY kits are definitely a premium.

@user-yn1de5lq1u 6 күн бұрын

Half the price to do it for me. I guess it’s where you live

@FortKnoxCo 5 күн бұрын

@@user-yn1de5lq1u yeah I bet it’s different in different areas. It’s not super common out here in Vegas for some reason. I’d figure with the extreme heat’s we have it would be more popular

@arthurn9237 Ай бұрын

☝️AT THE COST OF THIS PRODUCT ☝️ WHY WASTE THAT FIRST SQUIRT JUST START THE PROCESS N BE DUN WITH IT WHO CARES IF THERES A SPOT THAT'S NOT PUUURRRFIK

@FortKnoxCo Ай бұрын

The initial spray isn’t too much but I get what you’re saying, get every inch out of it at this price.

@braddeyoung8701 2 ай бұрын

From my personal experience with this type of spray foam system, no it's not worth the money.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

I’d say I agree for the most part. It did what I thought it would. But wasn’t as fun to use or covering what I had hoped. You pay a premium for this stuff. If you’re going to DIY a whole home and fill the walls…. I would look into a company to do it for you. If you want to spray one wall or maybe a shed then maybe use one of these boxes.

@bobbray9666 2 ай бұрын

Cans would be easier and cheaper for just sealing, unless you have a lot to do. Definitely not worth using for insulating wall cavities.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. This Froth-Pack specifically says it’s for sealing and filling gaps,etc. so that’s why I chose the green box 200. But I believe the red boxes are set up a little different with the intent to spray full walls. I may use a can system in the future to try it out for comparison. I plan on adding some insulation in the attic where the living space is separated from the area above the garage.

@bobbray9666 2 ай бұрын

@@FortKnoxCo If using a bunch of cans, the cans that need a separately purchased gun (Great Stuff Pro) work better since you don't need to hold the can upside down. They also allow you to use the same can for up to 30 days after it has been initially used because the seal is at the gun tip.

@FortKnoxCo 2 ай бұрын

@@bobbray9666 that’s a good idea. I need to check out some other options on the next project.