Spolier free huh? Whats on the back of the car hes driving then? I see through your deception be warned with it being filled with spoilers on cars XD

The thing about the 3D trees not being noticeable may be true, but 2D trees ARE noticeable, so overall, I'd say that's a solid improvement.

The only thing I feel lacking is customization of cars. If the point was to make you attached to a car then the possibility of changing more aspects of the car and also spec normal cars to become racecars eventually would make a complete new world available regarding being "connected" to the car. Even making one car way more viable throughout series.

Gamepass is really paying off this year. Not having split screen really is a shame, hopefully they can add it. Besides that, motorsport is back and I love it!

The only thing I’m disappointed in right now is the campaign requiring an Internet connection. While I am used to it, I’m just not a fan of this trend since it’s affecting a lot of franchises. Other than that, I’m really excited about this game and look forward to playing it next week!

"You needs to drive well...", as he bumps every car he passes.

I really like the feeling of grip on the cars, and the dynamic weather. Some strange track and car omissions bother me, but I'm sure they will be added. Also, I actually enjoy multiplayer, which I don't normally play, but I'd like a bit more customization in my races. So far, I haven't found a way to make a public online race without the driving line or certain assists.

You don't have to buy many copies of the car, just save your settings and, unlike the previous parts of the series, you can load them without additional costs.

It actually is pretty good. And the new tire model feels great. I can tell when I’m losing traction, and it’s easy to catch slides. I have had a couple game crashes, But I did buy early release. So I’m sure the bugs will be fixed, obviously given the title this is goi g to be here for a while, and improvements and updates will come. Definitely gives me a motorsport 4 vibe, but with better visuals, and better handling

One thing that annoys me, you level up your car, by the time you unlock the things you would expect to need to build a decent car you are onto your next career series in a different car thus leaving that old car to never be used again

Ive owned every forza title since OG xbox and have been playing this last few days. Love the upgrade system and the online multiplayer is awesome

I'm intrigued, and will make my decision when I get my hands on it with Game Pass, but I feel like long-term the progression system could be quite refreshing. I would often make new profiles in racing games so that I could get back to that early phase of driving what I could afford as hard as I could. Though I _really_ miss the old Gran Turismo approach of giving you 10000 bucks and setting you free in the used market.

the game MUST be updated every 2 weeks or at least once per month for at minimum 4 years. it is missing many basic features.

I appreciate your take on the progression system. Made me understand it better. A lot of times I zone out and just focus on winning. Horizon makes you try for points. So I like they brought that idea over better now

Jake: laughs when he says "cp" Chris Hansen: why dont you have a seat over here...

the fact that he said " for those who don't know these games are completely separate from the forza horizon games" shows that the new generation has officially taken over gaming. anyway i always like the original track-oriented games anyway. horizon is fantastic for displaying other types of racing and really doing some fun things. forza motorsport will always have my heart.

Ive always been geared more towards forza motorsport than forza horizon. This new installment of forza motorsport feels refreshing compared to the last 3 forza motorsport games. i'm really enjoying this game, Its hard to put it down !!

As a long time Forza Motorsport fan this new one is really good. Couple of little quirks but the look and feel are excellent.

The car xp level up system completely put me off this game. I love building cars but I want to take one and change things about it right away. Having to farm just to unlock the ability to *maybe* end up with a good car is terrible!

The amount of grinding is ridiculous in my opinion. You would think they would’ve learned from gran turismo 7 mistake with the low payouts and pay for credits to upgrade/ buy cars

As someone who's hooked on F1 and setting lap times around the tracks and also dabbled in Assetto and rFactor 2, I've been waiting on this game for more chilled but still good game. Loved Horizon 4 and 5 so excited to dive into my first Motorsport title from these guys today!

I was hoping that they'd strip it back a bit but I've always hated their "car experience" feature for this upcoming title. What is so wrong with buying a junker with your starter money, grind the Sunday Cup a few times, whack in some upgrades and tackle the harder races. Really turns me off and I think this will be a "pass" for me.

Was really hoping to see the Career Calender from the early FM make an appearance...it was so cool to have to race a different style and class every day to progress, it really got me using cars I would have never touched, and u love it for that. It's even how I fell in love with the Le Mans 24 hour race...I used to race that every week...even had the World Record time at one point.

That’s a really intelligent way of making progression fun and engaging. So it’s not so much about mindlessly winning every race it’s more about driving better and better and trying new cars to get more xp and turning off all the assistants to get maximum xp… nice. Still gonna use muscle cars tho.

I still think progression should be with manufacturer vs the specific car itself. If ur a Nissan guy then racing with any Nissan will unlock and level upgrades for that brand. Being locked to just each car is kinda a bummer, unless levelling up is fast. Just my thoughts, as someone that switched from PlayStation to Xbox years ago specifically because Forza Motorsport there is a list of things people have asked for over a decade that we still haven’t gotten. Instead they do things like this which is the complete opposite direction.

I was wondering, what if they have some "Driving Test" on mid-late game that can unlock sort of instant car level threshold? I mean like after the test they can provide lv 5 as a start 10/15/20 and so on. I mean the driver skill level would be keep progressing, not always from 0 every time changing the car.

Haven't played it yet, really looking forward to it though. What gets me into Forza motorsport is the tightness of the controls and it sounds like that is right on point again. When the "car by car" upgrade through experience etc thing was brought up at first it sounded frustrating, but actually it's a good point to have, keeps the game relevant, and "a point to play".

I felt a bit included in the "Multiple Miata kitted differently" thing, I literally have 10 differently kitted Miata in Horizon 5😅

Love what they have done with the multiplayer. Adding penalties really weeds out the reckless driving

Most modes are online only, for me that’s a deal breaker.

To be honest i like the idea of earning points for upgrades for cars. But the current system is not good. They could remove the unlocking of parts, but keep the points system. You would still need to do races with the car to get the points but then you can just choose whatever upgrade you want with the points you have. Points could also be earned by any car from the manufacturer/class and be spent in the same categories instead of just one specific car.

So the whole car points system is a pain but also something the fans wanted. We wanted more of a grind, but T10 took it a bit far lol. I did a video of this on my channel explaining it in a bit more detail, however I think T10 need to re-adjust the car points/leveling system to just be related to each car Brand, and not every car! Apart from that, its a fantastic racing game.

It’s great if you love cars and want something with a little more flair than GT7. Not saying one’s better than the other. They’re just different. GT7 is really all about the cars and racing, not much fluff. Forza feels like it’s 80/20 sim racer/arcade racer. It has a better sense of speed and the sound design is top notch. But when it comes to actually learning how to race, GT7 does a better job teaching how and why. Forza has a lot of cool assists like the driving line, but there’s a lot more to it than that. If you’ve ever got all gold in GT’s license tests you know what I mean.

Wasn't sold at first, but after having played the game a bit more, I'm really liking it. I think it was smart to scale things down. Graphics seemed questionable at first, but I've started to appreciate how good it actually looks. This game is already really good , and it should be a good platform in which to expand upon.

With the assist you can make it so your car will drive itself except the gas so you just need to tape the gas and set the track to max laps

I don't normally play racing sim games. The only type of racing games I'll play are arcade. Love NFS, Forza Horizon, Burnout, Split Second, etc. But I have been wanting to try out a more sim like racer just to see if I'll like it. I'm glad that this is on Game Pass because I can try it out without having to pay full price for it.

Will it run on steam deck? I would really appreciate a brief statement on steam deck compatibility (if applicable) for future before you buy titles.

I've never been a racing game guy before but I picked up FH5 for some variety and it's pretty fun. Having to unlock upgrades for every single car you get does sound ridiculous though. I probably won't ever get around to this anyway as I'm pretty set on checking out GT7 in VR at some point this gen and I doubt I'll need more racing than that. But the environments do look amazing.

Ive played every forza game since Forza Motorsport 4. I was really disappointed to see the new progression system. I'm a dad so I don't always get time to sit down and play for a few hours. In the old Forza games I would often get on, buy and build a car, run it a few times and then get off for the day. I can no longer do that. I have to set aside half a day so I can fully upgrade my car. I'm also swimming in money that I don't need. I can buy all the stock cars I want. Yay.

I played the Horizon game and I really enjoyed it and the only thing I really wanted in that game was actual tracks to race on so of course this game is totally for me. I'm pumped for this one and its good to see people enjoying the game so far. Haven't picked it up yet but soon!

The progression reminds me of games with guns where you upgrade the more you use a gun. I agree they need to keep the progression per car. I like to have a 4 WD and rear wheel version of some cars. Plus maybe a Category A and S setup ready to go. This means I need to level up 2 cars or switch setups before racing :(

35hrs in it , lvl 58 with wheel setup and it just feels AWESOME

I know this probably isn't your go to type of game but thanks for delving into it, much appreciated!

The turning in this looks like it's done with the directional buttons.

I have this and Forza Motorsport 7. FM7 was my first Forza and it was nearly undrivable for me, so I was nervous about this, but it’s A LOT easier. I couldn’t even cruise around in FM7 without crashing it was ridiculous.

Are you steering with keys or the D-pad? You should be able to buy parts. The mods are limited by the class of the series. Car points could have been license points, so you are reward for your ability and therefore progress racing tiers.

I like that it's per car. For instance, beginning race you need a car in B league, but due to upgrades, my type R was A. I want to keep one car for B tier, but also want to do another with max out parts without having to keep track of parts swapping.

I'm not a big racing games fan, But i was once, Gran turismo 3 was my favorite racing game, Nothing actually come after give me the same sensation, i tried them all, Gran turismo 4 and 5..etc, It just something special about GT3.

My first Xbox is my X, I really enjoyed Horizon, so I feel like this is really gonna be something fun. Thanks for the video

Cant wait for it to release. My fanatec wheel is ready for the road.

No mention of NO auction site. Im sure that missing feature that is in alot of the forza games has upset a few people. I must admit, I miss it.

Disappointed Bathurst is missing along with some of the classic Holden and Fords that were in Fm7, maybe they intend to make them a purchase later but not too hopeful. The rest is really nice.

I have pre-ordered every Forza game since FM5, and I am a little hesitant to get this one because FM7 kind of burned me, I’m very happy to see this in my notifications

Been a FM fan since the early days. I'm genuinely looking forward to this one, not sure how I feel about the new upgrading system though. Unlike many FM players I tend not to upgrade or tune my cars all that much (I'm a fan of factory-spec racing), so it might not impact **MY** experience with the game too much, but for some of my friends who are seriously into the building/tuning scene I could see it being a right pain. Having to level a car up before you can start f*cking around under the hood properly might be a deal-breaker for some, it'll depend on how much grinding is required in order to unlock a car's full range of parts and tunability. If you can unlock everything in a few races, or perhaps a single championship series, it should be fine- It'd even give a tuner a few KM to get used to a car's "personality" before getting to work. If it takes many, many hours behind the wheel for EVERY CAR, like it's some kind of piston-powered MMORPG, most of the hardcore tuners will lose interest and play something else.

Definitely released 2 early, many problems but still good. An example of this is maple valley in the fog, cars in rear view look like they’re floating on mist.

The only thing that I'm not a fan of with Forza is that brake bias is set per vehicle, and requires the purchase of upgraded brakes, where in GT Sport it is a global setting. Brake bias makes a huge difference when playing with a controller. Combined with the ABS, cars like the Mustang are undriveable to me as they will just understeer off every corner. I've setup my Mustang to 70/30 rear bias, and now it snaps in to every apex like its on rails. Also noticed some strange artefacts around the light poles from 8:25 onwards, especially against the sky. It's like motion blur that forgot to blur. Is that your setup or the game? Also I loved when you referred to the tracks as maps (nerd!) 😜

I wish you talked about what racing hardware this officially supports like the drive wheel, pedals, etc. It looks good though and I like all the info so far that you mentioned. 👍

I like the car xp system, but wish all upgrades where unlocked from the start. That way it would give you way more options from the getgo, but you would need to grind to max out.

1 very good thing: Because parts and tuning uses CP, any and all money earned is solely used for buying other cars. And once you level a car to 50, you get a 5% discount on purchases from that manufacturer (maxes at 25%). 1 very bad thing: the leveling process is slow. Like, 3-4 hours + per car slow. With over 500 cars, that's a lot of grinding. There needs to be some game mechanic to increase XP gains or some way to speed up the process in some way. It can get brutal.

This is a great game but my storage is basically full since this isn’t the only game I have

This seem like racing game I will try out. Simple, on point without endless backside stories is what racing simulators should all be. Sounds good.

Been a long time coming... I've been around since the very first game on the OG Xbox. Horizon 4 and 5 have both been kind of disappointing to me. More or less just decently fun sandbox games, but the toning and progression of those games burnt me out fast. I've been itching to get back into a more serious "climb the ranks with your car" type of game. I hope this holds up over time and I'll definitely be playing with it being on Game Pass PC.

Being completely honest wait a few months if you’re a returning player as a veteran player their things that will annoy you right now for example there a forced delay when shifting and so many weird things as well color palette isnt there when compared to previous. I could go on but if you are new this is good to get into it does a very good job to teach how to and show how to race properly

I love Forza Horizon games. I have purchased a few of the motorsport games. I didn't rush in and buy the new one as I'd like to give it some time to see all of the reviews because Motorsport 7 didn't blow my hat off.

i was looking for reviews for about 15 mins then the GOAT of reviewers drops a before you buy

Speaking of racing, i've been waiting to hear what you guys thought of the crew motorsport

Imma just be real, it feels like mw2 but for racing, the car level situation gets old fast, id feel if the remove the parts lock progression and just keep the Car point earned per level would be a good alternative, still feels like actual progression but it allows us to be able modify our cars how we would in real life and the more we drive the more we have to spend on the that car

Gran Turismo: Hold my Beer.

They really went with CP as an acronym? Bold choice considering what CP is more known for.

I've got 20 hours in and I'm hooked. The real improvement is how the cars feel on steering wheel it's top tier

Zero mentions on LOADS of bugs (Save bug, upgrade bug, collision bug, graphic bugs, etc) and still not fixed on the latest update. Kinda wonder, is it just lottery at this point or...?

I feel. Like you should only need to level up a car model once, then hace everything unlocked and ready with all the points for any car of the same model you buy later.

bring on the grind that's what is missing from the racing world it makes it better to have to work for stuff that way if you work hard you will have stuff that other people don't have i love that

I'm not normally one to take to comments to chew someone out, but this is one of the laziest, most lopsided reviews I've ever seen. Since this is a huge channel, you're liable to mislead a metric ton of people. You cut between a small handful of clips exclusively taken from the very beginning of the game, give it a glow-up, then conclude by saying that 'there's not much more to talk about unless you're a diehard'. No. There's a LOT more you COULD have chosen to talk about. You could actually inform your viewers that Microsoft are using them as glorified beta testers, since there are bugs and crashes around every corner. You could tell them that there are NO race car events AT ALL in the single player career mode at present. NONE. It's exclusively road cars, so that the devs can get you grinding out this car level system, clearly designed to pad out player retention figures, so that the execs can pat themselves on the back at the next slew of boardroom meetings. How about that the AI is a complete travesty? Completely unable to race one another or the player in tight quarters, when they're not busy playing bumper cars and flying off the track, or randomly slamming their brakes in the middle of the race track. You could talk about the CLEARLY recycled (inaccurate) early Forza car models that have been dumped into this game - demonstrating that the 'built from the ground up' tag line the developers were using up until release was complete BS. How about that the force feedback experience on wheel is utterly tragic, until the player gets a degree in mechanical engineering and rejigs everything from the ground up? How about that close racing from interior views is nearly impossible, since there's no radar and the proximity arrows are useless? That's fine, chase cam with gamepad is the only thing that matters, right? You could talk about the predatory nature of the 'early play' release, launch day DLCs, or utter credit and XP grind this game is. As if they pivoted from creating a mobile game to mainline console midway through development. You could mention that the replay and photo modes are recycled travesties. The bipolar graphics combining flat textures and ancient models with ray tracing to try to pass as 'next gen', leading to hugely variable visual fidelity depending on time and weather. There are a metric TON of things you could've fleshed out in this 'just a racing game'. You could've told your viewers that Microsoft released an UNFINISHED game, and are charging full price for it, but instead you opted to push out a half-baked glow up and hoped that nobody would dive deep enough to notice. I understand that not everybody is into the racing space, and if that's you, there's nothing wrong with that. But just like I'll never review Farming Simulator since I don't know the first thing about farming, you could have just given this a miss - you don't have to review things you clearly don't care about.

There have been 7 before you buys in the past 4 weeks 😲 That's got to be some kind of a record.

My favorite racing game of all time was Sega 2000 GT on the original XBox, and this sounds similar to that. I loved the slow progression and building out cars to make them faster so I could earn enough points to join other leagues and race events. I don't play a lot of racing games, though, so I didn't know that the Horizon games weren't like that at all. I don't want story or RPG elements or being forced to do specific events in order to progress the game. So I'm looking forward to this one.

This game is just absolutely gorgeous under the right conditions it looks so close to real it's insane

I really am liking the game so far! Sure the car leveling system seems a little weird but truly you don’t learn a car in a day. That system is in place to master a car more than customize. I just wish they had drifting in the multiplayer list!

video games have GOT to stop giving their credits the acronym CP.

Why are people starting to call Tracks on racing games Maps? This isn’t CoD this is Racing. The game looks great. Only I’m worried about is the car leveling system.

This game feels like a worthy successor to Forza Motorsport 4

Was just wondering if I should buy it or not, perfect timing

The improved handling is definitely way way better, I could care less for the practice laps and penalties in single player mode. I'm diggin it though!

Hey falcon, would you ever make a list about the games with alchemy aspects in it?

I've been loving the game so far. The variable weather is amazing even on my Series S

Alright lets see if this will be added to my Steam Deck list

what i hate about the car progression is you have to GRIND each car. as opposed to buying parts with MONEY like you do IRL. though sometimes i wish i unlocked parts for my IRL car by driving it... lol

Just downloaded the game, a little taken back on the lackluster autovista features I loved. They went with reduced visials and viewings options.

I play ACC, AC and rF2 on a daily basis but I'm skipping this one. I'd have fun with it for a few hours tops. Nothing like the thousands of hours of more of the realistic sims that are out now. Plus, WRC, AC2, Le Mans Ultimate and new ACC content are on the way.

Forza 7 car update that's all we're asking for more cars.

Felt called out when Jake mentioned having multiple kitted out Mazda Miatas

I've have a few bugs ,can't apply up grades for cars and sometimes can't buy cars in career, have to shut down console ,then whe you start up console ,you lose you progression .

Finally!! I’ve been waiting for this game forever. I really hope it’s good. Just started the vid

Hello, Jake!

The one thing i hate so much in this game is how forgiving the penalties are its almost like they are not even there especialy in pvp, you could be in first place and someone can casualy slam into you put you back to 10th place and its not even guaranteed they get a penalty

The 'CarPG' aspect is a good idea, but I have one MAJOR qualm with it. Let me use those points how I want to. If my car is chronically understeering, let me adjust swaybars and camber right away. If I want to butcher everything by adding boost or a supercharger without platform enhancements, let me. For many of us that have experience w/ real driving, ie track days and/or actual racing, give us freedom. I like the aspect of having to EARN points using the car, but let me decide, FROM THE START, where I want to spend them. The fact EVERY car has the same progression is going to get old fast.

Nice raytracing👌

I'm loving it so far, just wish I could skip practice by default.

I played every Forza since the original. I really love the new game but that progression system needs dial back a bit, not completely though.

Missing the Bernese alps track 😢