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Fourwheel Trader - Car depreciation analysis

Fourwheel Trader - Car depreciation analysis

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Sports and supercar values have been declining since the summer of 2022. Some cars lost up to 30%.
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If you care about the value of your car, all of the named models are not the best choice at the moment. They are all dropping quicker than the market average. Depreciation rates fluctuate between 15% and 30%. It of course does not mean that you should not buy them. These cars can have intangible values that outweigh any depreciation rate. Only you can decide what weighs heavier in your decision.
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@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 ай бұрын
🚗 Check out the auctions at Sotheby's Motorsport 🚗 bit.ly/3Rey7po
@kingsmark965
@kingsmark965 10 ай бұрын
Does the auction platform accept international vehicles?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 ай бұрын
@@kingsmark965 International sellers are not accepted untill next year but international bidders are already welcome.
@ricsu3462
@ricsu3462 10 ай бұрын
These analysis just got better and better. No longer benchmarked in a vacuum, love the big picture across makes and models
@whatdoesnt
@whatdoesnt 10 ай бұрын
Step 1: Make enough money to go bankrupt by buying a supercar Step 2: Buy Supercar Step 3: Go bankrupt 😢still stuck on step 1
@mufflejoy
@mufflejoy 10 ай бұрын
Given that many young "collectors" finance their purchases, with higher interest rates this is only going to get worse as they stop making profits on their KZfaq dreams.
@mg-by7uu
@mg-by7uu 10 ай бұрын
Don't worry they'll drop rates back to 0 and print another 10 trillion soon enough
@navyrotc2012
@navyrotc2012 10 ай бұрын
Okay boomer
@mufflejoy
@mufflejoy 10 ай бұрын
@@navyrotc2012 🙂 - this boomer never went bankrupt and paid his cars in cash. We can all have our own ideals, mine is financial freedom from having to talk with a bank advisor (sales person)
@rlstrad2059
@rlstrad2059 10 ай бұрын
My local Mercedes dealership took in a two year old loaded Aston V8 Vantage. Drop dead gorgeous. Had it on the block for $120k for about eight months, finally sold it for 99K. Original MSRP around $180 K. So sure, tons of depreciation. But for buyers, absolute right car to buy.
@applelegos
@applelegos 10 ай бұрын
I think 4.0 Vantage numbers are just really good now. Following recent trends, I traded in my 2015 older Vantage for a 2019 and could not be happier. Value for the money is great considering comparable 911s in that price segment. The infotainment is a miss but replacing that with CarPlay solves all problems.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 ай бұрын
I agree, they start to offer great value for money.
@mikajo
@mikajo 10 ай бұрын
Can’t believe no McLaren’s made the list.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 ай бұрын
Most McLarens lost more than the average during last year, but only a few more than 14%. I posted a McLaren market update not too long ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psePgshm2tmViZs.html
@sburns2421
@sburns2421 10 ай бұрын
We are in a moment of flux. Going from low inflation, low interest rates, people with extra money, and somewhat limited supply of desirable cars for these people. Now the situation appears to be relatively high inflation, a return to historic interest rates, no PPP or other free stimulus. And every manufacturer has several "sports car" models that the ignorant think will just go up up up. Or worst case keep their value. The car market generally has a lot of inertia, economic changes do not immediately reflect by higher or lower prices. We are in that lag time now. The really desirable cars (even newish cars like 599GTO or GT3RS) will do better than the standard models. But the guy who bought a normal 911 Turbo or Gallardo in the last two years that thinks his car will always hold its value is going to be in for a very rude awakening.
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 10 ай бұрын
I always thought the AMG GT 4 door, Taycan and MC20 were overpriced. Dealerships in Canada are still trying to overcharge for these cars. Don't fall for it. Wait and you'll see the prices drop like a stone in 18 months. Another one I predict that will collapse in price on the used market is the new AMG SL, not because it's a bad car but because Merc lost its mind in charging over $200k for it. It's not THAT good. Wait 24 months and I'm certain used SL's will be worth half the price.
@semblance832
@semblance832 10 ай бұрын
If you're looking at these purchases as investments, not only are you doing it wrong, you're just plain out of their league.
@JGGTRCALI
@JGGTRCALI 10 ай бұрын
Do the Nissan GT-R next please. This car has had very interesting price trends since Covid and has a lot of model years/generations to cover and has a lot of trims.
@luxylando
@luxylando 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see a video on the Lucid Air market. Great job on the videos, I love them! I always look for the McLaren and Cayman market updates.
@MrSchn3ll
@MrSchn3ll 10 ай бұрын
Any EV startup is like playing Russian Roulette. The financials for Lucid / Rivian / Fisker, etc. are scary. The burn rate of their cash is unsustainable and I wouldn't touch their cars. They are rolling supercomputers and when these high priced RC cars go belly-up, good luck fixing them. The proprietary body components are already insanely high to fix due to the complexity and low production. They are for suckers.
@CTP1111
@CTP1111 10 ай бұрын
Big reason Vantage values have declined so much is that they flooded the 2020 and 2021 market with cheap leases after they went public and they have been coming back to market before people realize what good cars they are
@JGGTRCALI
@JGGTRCALI 10 ай бұрын
Excellent videos - only getting better I like this new style.
@martinsolodky6167
@martinsolodky6167 10 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Only thing is regarding the 812 GTS. Many have an MSRP of ~500k, so the price drop of $112k to Mid 600’s is still above MSRP, and many original owners are still up 100k+. Other than that, I agree with everything else!
@therealgaragegirls
@therealgaragegirls 10 ай бұрын
We test-drove a Taycan in 2021. Amazing car. But no way was I going to buy one new. I *knew* prices would quickly tank on them. We'll probably scoop up a Cross Turismo in the next couple of years.
@OviWanKeno9i
@OviWanKeno9i 10 ай бұрын
Nice video! Found this randomly. I love cars and I'm thinking of getting either a used LC500 or a new Lotus Emira. Would I hit depreciation hard with either one of those? They're both amazing, but would love the Emira more for the manual. My daily is a C7 A6 tuned to 500 some hp and Bilstein suspension. I love it and I will keep it forever if I can, but would love to get a more special car and those two are exciting to me.
@reaver9
@reaver9 10 ай бұрын
How come Panamera 971 GTS is always priced above the regular Turbo? Hisotorically Turbo is the more expensive model, you won’t tell me that all these GTS are so heavilly loaded with options.
@troyr3478
@troyr3478 10 ай бұрын
My 2017 BMW 540 is nowhere near supercar territory...but it's continual repair costs should put it on this list.
@dfw10000
@dfw10000 9 ай бұрын
Always well-researched, well produced, and entertaining
@keithdempster482
@keithdempster482 10 ай бұрын
Please do a analysis on the un loved Ferrari 456 market. Thanks
@DavidBrown-bs7gg
@DavidBrown-bs7gg 10 ай бұрын
Depreciation is the least of your worries with the 456, it'll be running costs that kill you, like the very weak steering rack that costs tens of thousands to replace
@FrankGallagherr
@FrankGallagherr 10 ай бұрын
Car market is going to crash hard!
@rlstrad2059
@rlstrad2059 10 ай бұрын
Why
@sutherlacd27
@sutherlacd27 10 ай бұрын
Nope. Due to COVID the market ended up losing millions of vehicles that would have normally been in circulation and that is going to keep vehicle prices up
@Bob-in4eh
@Bob-in4eh 10 ай бұрын
Bought a 15 Calit T after watching your 2022 information and multiple videos. Had a 21 C8 HTC and while great cars for the money , the quality is not even close to my 15 Cali T which in my opinion is way more comfortable and Handel if and speed is equal to the Vett . I expect they still depreciate but love the car just curious what the update might be on these . Higher interest rates certainly affect used cars I am sure . Great channel
@VanderlayLux
@VanderlayLux 10 ай бұрын
Good video. Please can we get a Lambo update, with a focus on the Aventador? You could have a new thematic series on depreciation outcomes when cars are replaced. I wanted to know your thoughts on Aventador pricing now that the Revuelto is out. Thanks and good work.
@Durrah1
@Durrah1 10 ай бұрын
Do you think the f12 will gain value soon or not yet?
@sutherlacd27
@sutherlacd27 10 ай бұрын
I do. It's one of the last NA v12 Ferraris.
@filiberto2266
@filiberto2266 7 ай бұрын
100% value up
@patrickbanick2174
@patrickbanick2174 2 ай бұрын
Love the f12 think it’s better looking than the 812. Will for sure appreciate
@poultz413
@poultz413 6 ай бұрын
Is depreciation necessarily a bad thing? For example, the f-type v8's have dropped in value. But surely this means that you can pick up a second hand 2021 model on the cheap! Or is this still a negative as it will continue to depreciate faster than the rest of the market? I'm only asking as I'm looking to buy a 2021 f-type v8, there super cheap rn
@ceo_Angelop
@ceo_Angelop 10 ай бұрын
I love this video! Just bought a Roma and a Urus 😂 I did get killer deals on both. Urus in 250k range and a pearl capsule and also Roma with a 315 sticker for 260. Probably lose a good 30-40 on the Roma but the urus should hold over $240 or so.
@SurviveTheDay
@SurviveTheDay 10 ай бұрын
What never depreciates is the cost of ownership. Parts, maintenance, shop costs, insurance, gas, etc. Get yourself a financial planner and be smart with your money. Just remember depreciating assets are bad for wealth.
@tuomasholo
@tuomasholo 10 ай бұрын
The watch market went crazy as well. Now prices are dropping.
@SAMMYJR00777
@SAMMYJR00777 10 ай бұрын
can you make a video for 928 S4 and 944S cars?
@PhileasFogg1969
@PhileasFogg1969 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video and surprised about the huge depreciation for the Taycan. What about the older generation Aston Martin Vantage V8 and V12 ? Do you expect these to become classics and raise in value especially the manual versions ?
@patrickbanick2174
@patrickbanick2174 2 ай бұрын
Manual ones for sure will appreciate over the long term
@josephwestfall6844
@josephwestfall6844 10 ай бұрын
No I don’t know, what does the Vantage have the 911 doesn’t have, except a V8?
@jameschaves5723
@jameschaves5723 10 ай бұрын
My F50 is skyrocketing. Not sure how much longer I can refuse offers
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 10 ай бұрын
Id like to see f type manuals.
@better20
@better20 10 ай бұрын
used panameras are great cars to drive and own
@wymy1412
@wymy1412 9 ай бұрын
agreed. it is such a great car. I may buy another because the affordability is so good on a used one after 3-4 years of depreciation.
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 10 ай бұрын
Should I trade in my 981 Cayman GTS for a 991.2 GT3? Both are dropping but since GT3 has a higher sticker price, each % of drop is great in dollar value versus my cayman where dropping 10% is just $10k
@butlr732
@butlr732 10 ай бұрын
I would. The 981 has a 4 cylinder right? 718 brought back the flat 6 that is much more highly regarded. I love caymans but there’s also a lot of people out there that would never consider one over a 911
@sutherlacd27
@sutherlacd27 10 ай бұрын
Is the Cayman a manual or pdk? I believe it's still a flat 6 in the 981 right? If its a manual flat 6 keep it. Unless you're getting a manual gt3. If they are both pdk then get the gt3
@shelloiluk
@shelloiluk 10 ай бұрын
@@butlr732981’is a 6 718 is a four apart from the newer 718 4.0. I’ve had 5 Porsches. Latest is a 992 911 GTS as crashed my 992 911 S
@Drarek88
@Drarek88 10 ай бұрын
very good, the EU market is the same of US? Can you doit with huracan and aventador? thanks
@GoesSlow
@GoesSlow 10 ай бұрын
Would love to see a video on the Huracan Performante.
@wiretrap1035
@wiretrap1035 10 ай бұрын
Cars should be used as vehicles. Not investment vehicles.
@kerrnni4814
@kerrnni4814 10 ай бұрын
Kindly asking, what is your view on the aventador s coupe’s price curve? I currently own a 18 model year and is considering selling it in the near future, is that a good financial move?
@The0rs
@The0rs 10 ай бұрын
What is happening with Lotus? Emiras selling above rrp but older cars still cheap compared to similar from other marques.
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 ай бұрын
I am working on a lotus market update, more on this in the upcoming months
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 10 ай бұрын
Emira is below rrp, nearly new cars with sub 1000 miles
@The0rs
@The0rs 10 ай бұрын
@@Jay-xr3sb Interesting. Not long ago they were being advertised above rrp. I'm talking about UK.
@GTC4cam
@GTC4cam 10 ай бұрын
@@fourwheeltrader regarding Lotus I suspect your confidence intervals will be very wide. Thinly traded, highly idiosyncratic, hard to measure with statistics, easier to look at individual comps like a conventional appraisal.
@letsthinkfirstpeople
@letsthinkfirstpeople 10 ай бұрын
You do know the people who can own these cars do not care how much they are. The money is irrelevant, its for fun only.
@MTbone7
@MTbone7 10 ай бұрын
I'd be buying those cars that came down the most
@basstradamus1
@basstradamus1 4 ай бұрын
If you take inflation into consideration drops will be much lower
@SWright1978
@SWright1978 10 ай бұрын
Is this really just a question of folks paying a silly premium for having the car “fresh in the wrapper” and being fawned over by the dealer, and the true “value” of the item (less the ego pandering) only emerges at 12-18 months?
@tw8438
@tw8438 10 ай бұрын
Was surprised to see the Panamera Turbo S depreciate less than the S and the GTS. Really surprised by the GTS depreciation rate. Is the Turbo S depreciating less because there isn’t many of them? Don’t get me wrong as they are still depreciating higher than the average.
@gar24407
@gar24407 10 ай бұрын
There has to be alot of underwater leases😂😂
@yuthomas8792
@yuthomas8792 10 ай бұрын
911 Targa price trend?
@sutherlacd27
@sutherlacd27 10 ай бұрын
Targa will hold it's valve extremely well.
@tonypartridge7085
@tonypartridge7085 10 ай бұрын
I wonder how the C7 Corvette is doing
@Wonderlaust
@Wonderlaust 9 ай бұрын
Approaching pre COVID levels
@AdamElDiablo
@AdamElDiablo 10 ай бұрын
How about a video on Aventador now that they are discontinued?
@MB-bg4mz
@MB-bg4mz 10 ай бұрын
people who have never worked in the car sales industry always think they know what's going on... Or do they.
@orjan-j2881
@orjan-j2881 10 ай бұрын
That was a great video
@KingKenKen
@KingKenKen 10 ай бұрын
Aventador plz
@user-pn8dq6vt4s
@user-pn8dq6vt4s 10 ай бұрын
I remember I used to get emails from Lamborghini Dallas regularly, and one promo email was letting me know that for the low, low price of $5,000 they would install a… button in your Aventador… to make the spoiler go up, so you could wash it easier. That bit of insanity has stuck with me.
@BugMateo
@BugMateo 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis...
@charliecleanup
@charliecleanup 10 ай бұрын
Thank you very well done
@jordenkaufman840
@jordenkaufman840 10 ай бұрын
Panamera is a Deprecation Hero lol 700hp for under 70k? nice
@tonyoliver2330
@tonyoliver2330 10 ай бұрын
R34 Nissan Skyline GTR VS R35 GTR
@DivineFrag
@DivineFrag 10 ай бұрын
Shame that the 812 GTS is so expensive as is. Do wonder where the new Astons will bottom out in the next year or so.
@sakimano
@sakimano 10 ай бұрын
i'm watching the DB11 volante but was disappointed to learn it's V8 only. Want a V12 which means DBS ...which means $$$$$$.
@rzr0000
@rzr0000 10 ай бұрын
Is the video more about “supercars that have already bankrupted some”?
@artureff3046
@artureff3046 10 ай бұрын
buy and hold....
@amirsnags8663
@amirsnags8663 10 ай бұрын
Good video
@flavioc5389
@flavioc5389 10 ай бұрын
Not to avoid, to buy after 5 years.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 10 ай бұрын
I double my money with my 1991 Acura NSX.
@jesseallen1742
@jesseallen1742 2 ай бұрын
I am buying mu MC20 because I want it not because I am a wholesaler
@alliedfroth
@alliedfroth 10 ай бұрын
Wow, so in 3 & 1/2 years i can have it for free! AWESOME!
@Serckep
@Serckep 10 ай бұрын
You're amazing and unique.
@DavidBrown-bs7gg
@DavidBrown-bs7gg 10 ай бұрын
i8 will start rising in a year or so IMO
@sutherlacd27
@sutherlacd27 10 ай бұрын
I'd be shocked if they do. They are not good cars
@Wonderlaust
@Wonderlaust 9 ай бұрын
Why? They get gapped by 370z’s lmao
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 10 ай бұрын
Aka these cars are great buys in another year ? 😂
@brittseverence7221
@brittseverence7221 10 ай бұрын
Is this video attempting to tell us something we don't already know?
@fourwheeltrader
@fourwheeltrader 10 ай бұрын
Depends on what you already know ;)
@albertmyers7176
@albertmyers7176 10 ай бұрын
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