Are We Underestimating Pogačar? + Was Roglič’s Crash Result Unfair? - Wild Ones Pro Show TdF Stage12

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00:00 Girmay is soooo in control
02:55 WTF was up with Cavendish’s sprint line?
04:40 Fabio Jakobsen out
05:03 Pogačar crashes
05:36 Fears over Roglič’s collarbone after crash in final 15km
06:48 The current GC standings
08:48 Multiple riders out with illness
12:55 TotalEnergies loses £140,000 worth of bikes and tools
14:45 Was the ruling on Roglič’s crash unfair?
17:11 We want a new jersey competition: The Hawaiian Jersey
18:55 Are we all underestimating Pogačar?
25:48 Bella is terrified of Chris’ FUGLY T-shirt
27:41 Tomorrow’s TdF stage preview
29:14 Women’s Giro: Kopecky BOSSED it
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@macwolfphi
@macwolfphi 20 күн бұрын
'strap in mofos!' should be an opening of all Cade Media videos from now on😂 amazing and cheers for another great episode 😊
@chrisfenet
@chrisfenet 20 күн бұрын
+1 on that!!!
@sallyviewville8944
@sallyviewville8944 20 күн бұрын
Concur
@shdw_co
@shdw_co 19 күн бұрын
Clip in would work better no? ahah
@madsmity6790
@madsmity6790 20 күн бұрын
Van Aert being shut down by another rider for the second time this Tour is criminal
@scarfsamurai
@scarfsamurai 20 күн бұрын
He still beat him for second also Demar who blocked Wout got relegated, same for Cav
@laurenz323
@laurenz323 20 күн бұрын
Yeah but thats sprinting
@jalakere
@jalakere 20 күн бұрын
@@laurenz323Shouldn’t sprinting be about who can squeeze the most power out of their tired legs, not who can squeeze wout into the barriers
@AliAdam80
@AliAdam80 20 күн бұрын
@@laurenz323 I love these kinds of stupid idiotic comments. Its not sprinting its cheating and that's why the rider that did it got relegated :)
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 20 күн бұрын
@@jalakereTotally true but I think Wout needs to reconsider his lines and go more towards the center.
@akirasuzuki8378
@akirasuzuki8378 20 күн бұрын
Pogacar is the race favorite. Do not underestimate him.
@davefoc
@davefoc 20 күн бұрын
He is IMO. This year Pogacar is on the best team, he has a 66 second lead, and he's better than Vimgegaard in the time trial.
@aglees2b
@aglees2b 20 күн бұрын
Chris's encyclopedic knowledge here is *chef's kiss*. Cracking podcast everyone
@jlr3636
@jlr3636 20 күн бұрын
Girmay does an excellent job of surfing the field, he doesn’t get hung up on having the perfect lead out, he uses his team to keep him close and safe then uses the best wheel he can follow to get him to HIS sprint point. Can you imagine in a few years when he is with a team with a perfect lead out ?
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 19 күн бұрын
Agree 100%. His improvement in positioning has been notable over the past 3 years. I think he's become more patient and he's learned which wheels will take him the farthest for the least energy. And most of all, he a safe sprinter.
@ChrisHallRides
@ChrisHallRides 20 күн бұрын
Nice T-shirt
@ElrocStone
@ElrocStone 20 күн бұрын
You're looking well groomed today, mate. I love the shirt.
@ncc1107
@ncc1107 20 күн бұрын
Fantastic beard, dude!
@BikesKomsCRO
@BikesKomsCRO 20 күн бұрын
​@@ElrocStone😅
@prentissberry7691
@prentissberry7691 20 күн бұрын
really need this shirt in my life
@MechaSkingles
@MechaSkingles 20 күн бұрын
Waiting for someone to turn up with a shirt covered in francis' face now 😂 bonus points for wearing it on an episode when he's back on
@TheTrailRabbit
@TheTrailRabbit 20 күн бұрын
Yes, you are. Everyone who was ready to count Pog out yesterday is a muppet.
@johnmcnulty1129
@johnmcnulty1129 20 күн бұрын
Reckon Girmay has been studying Top Class sprinters from track & field. Totally focused on being on full throttle, but relaxed as possible. No wasted movement, probably controls the breathing, to some point. Slick Central ! Hope this Covid resurgence f # ks off & does one ! Like Police Chief Brody said in JAWS 2 "I ain't going through that sh # t again !" Chris & "Sam Fender" dovetailing, great stuff :)
@user-fb3yf2xb2z
@user-fb3yf2xb2z 20 күн бұрын
Cav was forced to swerve, if you watch slow motion replay. Guy in red stops pedalling after a full gas. Relegation unfair imo given that sudden situation.
@ashurany
@ashurany 20 күн бұрын
You guys (and gal) are rocking it with your TdF coverage.
@w8stral
@w8stral 20 күн бұрын
? WTH.... What new "sprint"... no different than any other sprint for the last 100 years of bike racing... The hyperbole BS is outstanding! If this is "coverage"... please spare me any more "rocking it" so called "coverage"
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 20 күн бұрын
How can you underestimate the No1 rider in the world 😂
@AlexeiRamotar
@AlexeiRamotar 20 күн бұрын
If Pogačar rides smart he'll win easily.
@LadyBird-n2t
@LadyBird-n2t 20 күн бұрын
Exactly!! Johan Bryneel said if Tadej had better tactics, he would have already had 4 TDF wins..
@erlinglaustsenebbesen3544
@erlinglaustsenebbesen3544 20 күн бұрын
Well ,Vingegaard is a nettet Tour rider whatever he says. But pog is the best one Day rider
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 20 күн бұрын
@@erlinglaustsenebbesen3544All those who rode the Giro this year strongly disagree with your assessment made from the couch, mate…
@toshman696969
@toshman696969 20 күн бұрын
@@erlinglaustsenebbesen3544 absolutely i mean tdf is the only multi day race that pogi won
@Infiltator2
@Infiltator2 20 күн бұрын
@@LadyBird-n2t Not last year. There JV was too strong.
@sgroadie6367
@sgroadie6367 20 күн бұрын
I think Sagan was the start of this style of sprinter. Btw great job guys. Shoutout to Emily 🎉
@sirbob1977
@sirbob1977 20 күн бұрын
These intros are getting me pumped!
@DavidB0001
@DavidB0001 20 күн бұрын
This TdF coverage is excellent. And great to see the coverage of the Women's Giro at the end. Great job!
@thefollandgnat
@thefollandgnat 20 күн бұрын
"There's a lot of . . . transfer of germs that happens when things are wet . . . um, I'm assuming it's that, I don't actually know." Eat your heart out, Louis Pasteur!
@jESPERzt4r
@jESPERzt4r 20 күн бұрын
Yes hello, could we all just get a link to that shirt!
@cheesylorry
@cheesylorry 20 күн бұрын
Yep.. got my attention as well..
@PioU38
@PioU38 20 күн бұрын
I don't even care if there is a race or not, I could listen to you guys everyday!
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 20 күн бұрын
Don’t think we are underestimating Pog or Jonas. But we absolutely overestimated UAE and their Directors
@healthcarethoughtleadership
@healthcarethoughtleadership 20 күн бұрын
The directors absolutely. Pogi is missing Allan Peiper
@paulwebster4499
@paulwebster4499 20 күн бұрын
Agree with the directors, one could imagine them encouraging Pog and shouting "campionissio" out of the car. They need Cummings in the car
@lester8403
@lester8403 20 күн бұрын
Let’s wait and see how things pan out for the upcoming mountain stages… as a Dane I still think pogi will win this year 😅 i do not think Jonas got the fitness for the long mountain stages compared to pogi even though its his strength
@luiscolon921
@luiscolon921 20 күн бұрын
@@healthcarethoughtleadershipbiggest problem for Pogi is that Jonas arrived. Remove Jonas from the last three TDFs and what would you have? The Pogi show and zero discussions on nutrition or team strategy.
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv 20 күн бұрын
@@luiscolon921 eh maybe! Even without Jonas the strategy Visma has employed has been sound. They would’ve found another way to test him/his ego.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 20 күн бұрын
Bini's favourite 'sprint' is a little uphill! He said it.
@mart1nandersson
@mart1nandersson 20 күн бұрын
Great show! Chris is probably the most likable guy in cycling KZfaq.
@ChrisHallRides
@ChrisHallRides 20 күн бұрын
@toadlguy
@toadlguy 20 күн бұрын
I think we have a new Fluff Up of the Day on the Cavendish call 😉
@steinanderson9849
@steinanderson9849 20 күн бұрын
huh? he moved a shite ton across another riders line. he should have penalised on his 35th stage win too
@toadlguy
@toadlguy 20 күн бұрын
@@steinanderson9849 I was talking about Jimmi's call - 3:13 😂
@steinanderson9849
@steinanderson9849 20 күн бұрын
@toadlguy hahaha that makes sense now!
@simoncummins2305
@simoncummins2305 20 күн бұрын
G for the Hawaiian shirt
@okbaiembye9969
@okbaiembye9969 20 күн бұрын
Wowwww,I love your analysis
@davidd1492
@davidd1492 20 күн бұрын
I have watched Girmay over the past couple of years, he has slowly got better each year to where he is now. He is such an impressive young man, not only on his bike, but off it as well where it matters just as much. Chapeau to him.
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 20 күн бұрын
A chill jersey tangent. Escape Collective’s race podcast does a classification for the rider closest to 1 hr back that’s over 1 hr
@billyrose3570
@billyrose3570 20 күн бұрын
Chris got it spot on. Jonas is proving himself to be the better grand tour rider whereas pog is imo the best all out bike racer in the world right now. You can never count him out because of that, he’s so good at finding ways to win
@JohnMikeBikes
@JohnMikeBikes 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the chapters!
@mitmon_8538
@mitmon_8538 20 күн бұрын
30 seconds in and I'm utterly distracted and befuddled by Chris's shirt. Too funny,
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 19 күн бұрын
I don't think he even realized that Cav was relegated in today's stage.
@kjaime7030
@kjaime7030 20 күн бұрын
On the idea that sometimes when you win one sprint, it leads to multiple others, not only did Phillipsen win most sprints last year, but in 2021, Cav won four stages WHEN HE WAS 36.
@colulegs95
@colulegs95 20 күн бұрын
Love that intro
@CreativeFishDesignsCharlotte
@CreativeFishDesignsCharlotte 20 күн бұрын
it was the best
@PURPLYELLOWPINK
@PURPLYELLOWPINK 20 күн бұрын
I LOVE THIS SERIES
@ralvesco
@ralvesco 20 күн бұрын
Roglig in France becomes the most unlucky guy on earth, it's something to admire...
@rubrshrk
@rubrshrk 20 күн бұрын
Jonas (and Roglic) are very smart bike riders. I think they use their teams and their energy reserves better. Pog is still probably the best bike rider I've ever seen. He would be better if he was a little more careful with his energy.
@jossytm6814
@jossytm6814 20 күн бұрын
Love seeing king BINI smashing it again 💪
@Abi-hero
@Abi-hero 20 күн бұрын
I agree with u sis ,BINI WILL DO IT AGAIN👍👍👍🇪🇷🌿🇪🇷🌿💙🌿
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 20 күн бұрын
Pogacar is NOT the underdog here. It depends on tactics. Vingegaard only squeaked a win yesterday because tactical mistakes by Pog, possibly missing food and bonking.
@henriknilsson7730
@henriknilsson7730 20 күн бұрын
Remco is basically doing what Dumoulin did.
@Shewitjournal
@Shewitjournal 20 күн бұрын
After a couple of injuries, Frustrations he was the most underestimated player in the tour , but he & the team worked so hard then insured the dream . Congratulation Girmay as well as IWC
@jollygreen68
@jollygreen68 20 күн бұрын
Totally agree with what you guys are saying about Pogacar and Vingegaard. And every casual or hardcore fan of the Tour should be watching this video starting at 18:57 and REALLY listening to what you guys are saying in response to that person's comment or question. I've been saying this since the first time Jonas won the Tour. Tadej is the more talented rider overall. Tadej is literally one of the best overall Road racers ever. Is top 5 or at the worst top 10 in the world at every single thing needed to win in bike racing. But... Jonas is THE BEST of his time, possibly ever, at the Tour de France, how the stages are setup, and the high altitude long steep climbs of the Tour. NOBODY is as good as he is in the long Mtn stages. And that is where the Tour is won or lost. So even though Tadej is coming in to this Tour just CRUSHING every other race and in the best form of his life, Jonas is THE BEST climber of his time and maybe ever. And what's even more impressive, is that Jonas is clearly not at 100%. The crash almost killed him and took him away from training and racing for over 3 months!!! Then to see what he was able to accomplish yesterday is just insane. He has the heart of a champion and for sure is the favorite to win now. Great video guys!
@brentt1455
@brentt1455 20 күн бұрын
Where can I order that Cav shirt from? oh ya keep up the great work, you are all AWESOME
@ForwardLooking832
@ForwardLooking832 20 күн бұрын
Love Chris...more please....
@KO47893
@KO47893 20 күн бұрын
Seems there needs to be some qualifiers added to the safety cut-off distance. Minimum group size at time of incident, perhaps (like 15% of the total peloton)? I'd say they could judge based on if the incident was reasonably unavoidable, but there's too much grey area around "reasonably". Certainly doesn't seem right to be in a group of two, have a self-inflicted crash, and not lose any time to the guy in front, especially when we're talking about a top GC contender pushing to consolidate his ranking.
@papajustus
@papajustus 19 күн бұрын
Yes, very interesting idea. I do remember at least two times Roglic came down seriously due to road issues, that not have been propper secured by Le Tour / road security. It is not to blame Roglic or other riders for the faults of the organization or the UCI but de facto it is like that. The same in the sprints: if deviation is finally relegated, the hampered rider still suffers of the deviation and mostly looses his/her fair chance to win. Like it happend to WvA today again. The relegation only does not cover the time (and energy) loss of the deviated. This is unfair. There should be something more/other to prohibit deviations or even better to compensate the deviated rider.
@ravil4388
@ravil4388 20 күн бұрын
Last year Tadej won Tourmalet and everybody started saying there comes the counter-punch - Tadej will win this TDF. Then we saw what happened. We never know what they are feeling. One thing from strava is that the first week, Pogi was AVERAGING 1600 - 2200 calories per race, now he is averaging 4000. The tiredness is kicking in.
@lester8403
@lester8403 20 күн бұрын
Tadej will win I’m percent certainty about it… he will ride away from Jonas on the next two mountain stages and take 4-5 mins
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 20 күн бұрын
Didn't one of Cade's cast predicted that Bini would win, at least, THREE stages?
@nickpilgrim1966
@nickpilgrim1966 20 күн бұрын
You messed up the question. It was why is everyone saying JV can ride into form. But last year Pog was going to get fatigued from lack of training.
@dariuszj7813
@dariuszj7813 20 күн бұрын
I think Pogacar could win this year TDF but he ride more like he try to entertain the crowd rather than actually win it. His spectacular attacks are just waste of energy in fight with someone like Vingegaard. At some point he might just have crisis, that will make him loose plenty of time and the whole race. From the spctator perspective I like Pogacar, because he at least make this race fun to watch. No matter if he win or loose people will like him and he will be great cyclist anyway.
@justinemarkdajay7485
@justinemarkdajay7485 20 күн бұрын
Pogi could have won stage 11 if he attacked on the final climb instead I think. Because there was no way Jonas was gonna attack first.
@growingupdestitute
@growingupdestitute 19 күн бұрын
Definitely appreciate the gentle correction of Jonas being the best stage racer, not just a TDF merchant. He wins way too much (and too resoundlingly) throughout the year to say he's just the best "TDF rider."
@jossytm6814
@jossytm6814 20 күн бұрын
We salute Eritrean Biniam Girmay, the new sprint boss 🔥🇪🇷
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255
@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 20 күн бұрын
Love the bad attitude intro! 🤣
@DrunkDane
@DrunkDane 20 күн бұрын
Remco is gonna be a bag of dust in the 3rd week
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 20 күн бұрын
Bini will be nice in green, and Green in Nice!
@RoninR6
@RoninR6 20 күн бұрын
Can we keep Chris around every day please?
@ryanbrink9604
@ryanbrink9604 19 күн бұрын
I would argue that Sagan was a similar type of sprinter to Girmay.
@rwoodford9812
@rwoodford9812 20 күн бұрын
Great review of the Tour, etc. everyone is underestimating Pogi! His team is by far the strongest team at the tour! I believe Pog and UAE are going to go on the defense and then take time when they can! Plus Jonas will come apart in week three, from the lack of foundational training. 🍺😄
@MartinBrown-mb7pz
@MartinBrown-mb7pz 20 күн бұрын
Nice editing, Emily
@TerjeRiisnaes
@TerjeRiisnaes 20 күн бұрын
Abra is going for the KOM points tomorrow for sure. 🇳🇴🇳🇴🇳🇴
@doctorSpoc
@doctorSpoc 20 күн бұрын
Cavendish relegated!! Don’t know what finish you guys were watching… Cav almost KILLED Coquard with that CRAZY, DANGEROUS swerve… that was insane… well deserved relegation! Well done commissaires!👏🏾
@LadyBird-n2t
@LadyBird-n2t 20 күн бұрын
Agreed! Cav has been getting away with dangerous riding forever...
@steinanderson9849
@steinanderson9849 20 күн бұрын
@@LadyBird-n2t 100%
@vozzen
@vozzen 20 күн бұрын
Mclay was sitting straight up and stopped pedaling at 70 km/h… The swerve from Cav was a reaction to that. Mclay should have been relegated. Could have ended in a shitshow.
@steinanderson9849
@steinanderson9849 20 күн бұрын
@@vozzen is there a rule about deviating your speed? i only know the one about deviating your line.....
@vozzen
@vozzen 20 күн бұрын
@@steinanderson9849 I think they were told explicity not to do that and there is penalties for actions that endanger other riders
@ShawnIsBatman
@ShawnIsBatman 20 күн бұрын
On the topic of Roglic being give the same time as Evenepoel on the previous stage during the crash, the real question is why the race organizers had the 3k rule in effect for what was essentially a primarily uphill finish? The only justification that I could see is that there was the downhill run, where Roglic crash, that directly preceded the short uphill drag into the finish. Perhaps the organizers were anticipating a large group hitting that section at the same time and wanted to 'protect' the GC riders if that was indeed a large group finish?
@theriddler2277
@theriddler2277 20 күн бұрын
it was announced during the race, so the best guess is it was because of the weather and the road being slick
@allisonking785
@allisonking785 20 күн бұрын
Nice analysis! Philipsen without MVDP seems a bit confused, he was on the left by himself (I mean no one was there) and he wasted lot of energy by the time he got same line to the other sprinter.
@philchevrier
@philchevrier 20 күн бұрын
thanks for timestamping the segments...
@mercurial_cyclist
@mercurial_cyclist 20 күн бұрын
Bini was out of the picture at the flamme rouge, it was a great lead out from Teunissen to get him in position and then the perfect finish from Girmay
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 20 күн бұрын
Watch it again, the way he moved to the front would make Sagan himself proud. That was a masterclass in navigating the front group.
@marcelsow5817
@marcelsow5817 20 күн бұрын
Remco also lost 20+ minutes in the Vuelta in one stage last year in the 2nd or 3rd week. He was leaps and bounds in teh lead up to that point....hmmmm. Maybe, maybe not.
@henriknilsson7730
@henriknilsson7730 20 күн бұрын
However - his main focus that season was the world championship TT and he totally won that one. Frankly put he had too much weight going into Vuelta and not enough training in the altitudes, his form was not just good enough for 3 weeks.
@mikkelhenriksen
@mikkelhenriksen 20 күн бұрын
Not morkof 🤣- Mørkøv
@CharlotteClaydon-ux6gm
@CharlotteClaydon-ux6gm 20 күн бұрын
tim declercq Would win the Hawaiian shirt every time, like he’s just there trucking along the pelaton!
@majorxaero4964
@majorxaero4964 19 күн бұрын
Err guys...the red numbers are for the most combative rider, not the lantern rouge 😅
@stevenfreeman7798
@stevenfreeman7798 20 күн бұрын
The road furniture was not marked or marshaled. It's the race organisers fault!. Roglic should be given the same time as the finishing Peloton.
@christianandersson6560
@christianandersson6560 20 күн бұрын
Just gonna be pleasent to see Vingegaard in yellow arriving in Nice
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 20 күн бұрын
Too bad it won’t happen 😂
@charlesrussell6183
@charlesrussell6183 20 күн бұрын
give us the 'le juice' jersey!
@alekra3764
@alekra3764 19 күн бұрын
Remco needs to sort out his downhill skills, it holds him back
@gregkane8635
@gregkane8635 19 күн бұрын
Vingegaard gets the special jumbo gear so he will be fine
@josehansen13
@josehansen13 20 күн бұрын
clip in MFKs
@drahtesel90
@drahtesel90 20 күн бұрын
thb i still wonder how the teams can be all in on the marginal gains thing but then don't do everything possible to protect their riders from any illness (especially at a Grandtour with no weakness possible for 3 weeks straight through). Would have expected staff with masks and teams carrying airfilters everywhere Just like their mattresses for the riders but obviously they still have space for optimization in this part of grandtour-cycling 😅
@robertchandler587
@robertchandler587 20 күн бұрын
I sure don’t enve Total Energies!
@wertacus
@wertacus 20 күн бұрын
Last 5k, im going down next to the fastest rider i can find nearby 😂
@hendrixinfinity3992
@hendrixinfinity3992 20 күн бұрын
Yesterday: Is Pogacar literally throwing? Today: pogacar is literally god.
@user-om5sx5ze2t
@user-om5sx5ze2t 20 күн бұрын
Και όπως έλεγε και ένα αγγλικό πανκ συγκρότημα τη δεκαετία του '80 "Well this land is our own, the freedom to roam Is the single demand that we make To live as we choose, to win or to lose Our birthright to freedom shall stay We want the right to ride Let the rider decide"
@rickgiolito5980
@rickgiolito5980 20 күн бұрын
Jimmy, give it up. Jonas is the most boring rider I’ve ever seen. No spark. No excitement. Total vanilla. Tadej is the most thrilling rider to come along since a juiced up Lance Armstrong.
@LadyBird-n2t
@LadyBird-n2t 20 күн бұрын
Watching Jonas ride is like watching paint dry... don't like the guy at all.. cannot believe a word that comes out of his mount... he said at the beginning.. oh I am just so happy to be able to start... and now? And Wout...so much pain today.. constantly at the medic car.. and then he almost win the sprint... bunch of liars.. and don't come with tactics.. this is just being g very dishonest and bad characters imo..
@AndrewG99
@AndrewG99 20 күн бұрын
WYM? Jonas closing that gap yesterday was absolutely THRILLING. And then holding on at the sprint finish??? Not sure what more you want.
@wahwahweewa
@wahwahweewa 20 күн бұрын
Is the guy with the one white one black shoe the guy with the upside down 13 number?
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 20 күн бұрын
Raw Glitch has a thing for the Flaw!
@pierrehenri2297
@pierrehenri2297 20 күн бұрын
Jimmy, get yourself a bottle of Madiran, you won't regret it!!
@optimistas7
@optimistas7 20 күн бұрын
At the absolute top level everything is won on the margins independent of sport. Not being able to train for a while is that margin.
@Alkebulan2060
@Alkebulan2060 20 күн бұрын
It becomes cool to be Eritrean in cycling world.
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 20 күн бұрын
The crash rule should be same time if you finish in the same group
@MaxwellPowers666
@MaxwellPowers666 20 күн бұрын
Who crashes the most out of the GC contenders? Primoz or Geraint?
@alexanderishere1857
@alexanderishere1857 20 күн бұрын
The person who wrote in about Pogacar and double-standards is actually right. In the sense that it clearly shows people will always find excuses for Pogacar no matter what. Last year the excuse was that he didn't have the best preparations and Jonas had the better team in the mountains. This year when Jonas had an even worse preparation, and a worse mountains team..... new excuses will have to be made up. Let's see what the new excuses will be.
@lester8403
@lester8403 20 күн бұрын
I completely agree with you but tbh I don’t think Jonas will win this year even tho he have shown really good signs!!!
@eduardoschneider2010
@eduardoschneider2010 19 күн бұрын
people just like drama. the more a story is dramatic the more they will support for it to happen. Jonas wining is in this case some example for this.
@darrelduke
@darrelduke 20 күн бұрын
tp won't win any sprints on those 165mm cranks (or his whole current set up imo). i don't think jv will win the tour either, not this year.
@thewahwah
@thewahwah 20 күн бұрын
I blame Jimmy and Francis for TotalEnergies getting their bikes nicked. The thieves clearly watched the video of them drooling all over the ENVE bikes in their TdF Bikes Review…🚓
@mikegeary9231
@mikegeary9231 19 күн бұрын
I don't want to see smooth sprinters. I want to see that they are putting everything into it a la the nodding donkey Milan or going back some years Abdujaparov.
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 19 күн бұрын
The 2 relegations were well deserved today.
@ShawnStradamus520
@ShawnStradamus520 19 күн бұрын
There’s good reason for people to hate the Merckx comparisons… Pogacar is most comparable to Hinault, Merckx is incomparable.
@mikehaberdotco408
@mikehaberdotco408 20 күн бұрын
Cavdog t-shirt, yeah?
@kipcc3918
@kipcc3918 20 күн бұрын
Tomorrow is gonna be a roglic break, They’re gonna do a 2022 stage 7 trick and keep roglic in at the top 4. One can hope, but definitely a 70% break away chance and if the peloton’s not gonna be lazy.
@boniverify
@boniverify 20 күн бұрын
Pogi is being underestimated 100%. First, the final time trial is close to where he lives. He will have done many recon rides on the course on his TT-bike. In last years TT, one of the justifications that Jonas was able to gain so much time in the TT was that Pogi was not able to really do recon rides on the course due to his injury. Second, it was said that one of the strategies by Visma last year was to make the race extremely hard for Pogi right from the start, because they knew that it was impossible for him to get enough training in to raise his training stress scores to his usual level and hence they would eventually wear him out. This year it seems that UAE are going with the same strategy. Don't be surprised if Jonas suddenly cracks.
@boniverify
@boniverify 20 күн бұрын
Also calling Jonas the better stage racer is just not backed up by their results. Tardej also has two Tour wins. In addition, he won the Giro. He has more wins in 1 week stage races. Further, he won many more individual stages in those races. Don't forget he is two years younger as well. Potentially his best years are still to come.
@kbless711
@kbless711 20 күн бұрын
Testing for Covid in the peloton is kinda garbage. Let them ride if they want to.
@DionLewiis
@DionLewiis 20 күн бұрын
Aaaaand Cavendish has been hit with a penalty
@tweedledee4605
@tweedledee4605 20 күн бұрын
I’ve been thinking about this, for me unless Jonas attacks hard in the mountains. Pogi will win this tour. Theres no other way. Jonas has no team to attack pog. Or we will see role reversal and they will use Almeida to attack Jonas over and over like they did to pog. Either way it’s going to be exciting.
@LadyBird-n2t
@LadyBird-n2t 20 күн бұрын
I don't agree Jonas is the best TDF rider.. his tactics might be the best.. nut NO WAY is he better than Pogi. Johan Bruyneel said that Pogi would have already won the TDF 4 times if he had better tactics...
@AliAdam80
@AliAdam80 20 күн бұрын
Maybe Pog wins 2022 TDF with better tactics (if you want to ignore the fact that he heat up and lost time on a climb, don't know how much tactics would help with the heat) but 2023 he flat out got beat by Jonas, blew up on a mountain stage and lost a lot of time. Also, "so and so said a b c" isn't a strong argument. Please go learn your logical fallacies, in particular the appeal to authority fallacy
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