Good news, Rob Zombie is doing a reboot for this shows into movie

@@sidvicious4760 I heard that too.

I remember watching this with my parents when I was younger (reruns during the 80's and 90's). Was one of my favorites and watching tv now is just a bummer.

@@sidvicious4760 Heck ya!! That will be awesome!

Yea same here I love this show so much. Such a terrible shame that Rob Zombie has to ruin the reboot already. Using his wife as lily smh. His wife isn’t a good actor at all. Idk why they let Rob zombie do a reboot of this awesome so. But good thing I have the originals and I’ll just watch those instead

Y'know, i cant quite figure out exactly what looks different on Herman, it mostly just seems to be that Fred is a lot more subdued in his delivery but he LOOKS fine to me...

That's the magic of film, That's also why it transfers so well the 4K

58 now

59 now.

It was shot on movie film. Movie film has greater resolution than the latest digital technology. That's why old movies look so great on 4K tvs.

Curious that the pilot was filmed in color but the series was filmed in black and white.

DankydineDieCast That is a great one...I need to see it now! Doesn’t he call Herman “Daddio?” 😆

Sound funny as s***.

10/13/2020 @DankyDieCast Yeah, that was a great episode. One of my favorite scenes (of a different episode), is when Herman's moonlighting as a P.I. & Lily & Marilyn are going from door to door seeking charity donations. They come to a home where Herman's working. He opens the door & Lily could hear a woman say to Herman: If it's my husband, get rid of him. Lily automatically assumes that he's having an affair. Herman starts off with: Lily, you won't believe this ... [ but Lily cuts him off in mid sentence] & she says: You may not believe this, but I'm Sonny Liston (the boxer) &🥊 uppercuts him a good one!! 🥊He goes down in a flash!! It's hilarious!!🤣😂 On a few other notes: If you think Lily is beautiful under all that make up, she is. Check her out in The Ten Commandments, as Moses wife. Also, my personal opinions on the recast. I'm glad about the Phoebe character. For one, she looks too young & I didn't think she could act. The way they had Eddie act (& his lines) were horrible. So glad that was changed. And good to see Herman loosed up a bit.😄 Plus, I get to watch The Munsters almost nightly, on CoziTV.👊

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I like when Eddie ran away from home. He hid up in a tree because he was too young to cross the street. that's such Vaudevillian joke. 😆

Yeah the opening theme was FN HORRIBLE

u guys are dumb as fuck; this pilot is far superior in every way. The 2nd version dumbed everything down for the lowest common denominator.

Asensio Rodriguez This makeup was too similar to the actual Frankenstein makeup - too frightening and not comedic. Also, he's not wearing the padded suit. And Fred Gwynne was playing it too straight, whereas the key to the Herman that we now know and love is that he's just a big, guileless kid, who never means any harm. Al Lewis seems to already have Grandpa on lockdown.

Grandpa’s too

I’m glad they change it all.

Awards aren't given based on what might get a cult following 50 years later, they can't predict the future can they? At the time the Munsters weren't as popular as they are now. Generally TV shows become more popular long after they first aired.

@@Fireglo I think you miss the point. The point is how the awards were bad at predicting the durability of the respective series. But hey, the same thing happens with movies; movies that no one remembers got Oscars but other movies released the same year have become classics.

@@ghenulo so they should get a crystal ball? It was the preferred show in 1965 that's why it won. The Munsters was preferred by a modern audience.

There are probably quite a few millenials who have never heard of "The Munsters." Golden Globe Awards aren't based on popularity but for excellence. "The Rogues" had a cast that included David Niven and Charles Boyer, and had several very well known and talented guest stars.

@@daniel_sc1024 David Niven the absolute worst James Bond.

MEEEEE TO I WAS LIKE WTF IS THIS DAMN SO CORNYTHANK GOD THEYVE CHANGED IT

@KZfaq asylum butch something

I think they let Happy do his own rendition of the character, whereas Butch Patrick decided to do it differently, which of course worked out much better.

They changed the kid, not just the demeanor.

His acting was really bad

manofmanyinterests.. actually the line should have been "he's just a mortician, not a miracle worker"

Morticians also apply makeup to corpses. The line fits the context.

+Daniel Pena I agree. Yvonne De Carlo & Butch Patrick were better actors than Happy Derman & Joan Marshall. This Eddie growled too much & was too angry, while the other Eddie was just like a normal kid. Phoebe was bland but Lily wasn't.

Daniel Pena Yvonne was the best

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I'm glad they changed Lilly and Eddie.

@@jesusisgod2953 Go and chew on a Bible..

Joan Marshall was incredibly hot looking here, but also miscast. Yvonne Dd Carlo was the better choice for the matriarch of the family.

This chick's way hotter

JBJ JONES and she was a terrible actress

@@jbjjones767, as Beautiful as Lily was, Phoebe did have the "Hot" factor.

@@davidmerlin3344 SHE WASN'T A TERRIBLE ACTRESS, SHE WAS JUST THE WRONG CHARACTER FOR THAT PART. THAT BOY WAS A TERRIBLE ACTOR

Their facial features may have been similar but Pat Priest was a true blonde unlike Beverly Owen. She had to wear a blonde wig the first season. The headband that is visible was the edge of the wig.

Keeping in mind that Addams Family was created at the same time, so the producers of the Munsters may not have been aware of Morticia. So it was more a lucky accident that when they recast they retooled the character.

Alex Fh That’s not true, that’s actually the reason the recast her. Because they said Joan Marshall as Phoebe looked too much Carolyn Jones as Morticia

terriblita308 that’s why they recast her

*Timothy Richard-Jackson* Is there a source you can point us to regarding that?

Alex, could the munsters have been a homage to the adams family in a way?

The problem with Eddie (and by an extension "Phoebe") is that there's _no twist_ on the archetypes they play. Great comedy usually comes from subverting audience's expectations. "Phoebe" was just another cold, unloving Gothic female we've seen in other horror movies. People have seen _thousands of uncontrollable, savage werewolves_ in media before this pilot and Eddie was just another one of those cliches, the only difference is he was a child. The actual show proper kept the archetypes of Lily and Eddie, but played around more with them. Lily was still a vampire (or zombie), but she was _more importantly and frequently portrayed_ as a _kind-hearted, good-humored and loving_ wife, mother and person in general, so to see her do things like sleep like a corpse, cook monster-type food and mention horror-themed things like graveyards, blood, etc. while being the kind and loving character we've come to know is funnier than if they just had her do the stereotypical monster stuff while still behaving like a monster. Likewise, Eddie is still a werewolf, but they made him more of a playful, energetic and sweet All-American Boy, whose werewolf tendencies like howling at the moon, sleeping in a coffin with a stuffed werewolf doll, etc. make him seem more like a lovable puppy instead of a bratty, pugnacious kid who has monster tendencies.

Whoa.

I love Keanu Reeves, so I don't know what you're talking about.

The kid just got some horrible direction for his character. OMG he's obnoxious!

He was definitely terrible

HE IS ONLY A KID. THERE IS ALOT OF PRESSURE OF BEING A CHILD ACTOR.

HI mike.How do can I see the full episodes and I mean not on KZfaq.Pls help!!!😖

+Umme Humayra By buying the DVD's...

Victorian Sculptures Thank you

Yeah, thanks a lot!!!

LOL... You would have no idea... You just like the beloved characters who were in the series.

BIG TIME!

If left alone the actors of Grandpa, Herman, and Marilyn would never have been able to have gotten more acting roles in other shows and movies. Many times your performance is what gets you a better carrer. In the case of AMG the worse you are the bigger the laugh and you might move on just fo the laughs.

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SO TRUE.

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Too true!!! Too true!!!

Que lindo!

Well she's not playing Lily. She's playing Phoebe. So technically she's a different character.

Probably didn’t take long to replace him

I read Beverly Owen was blackballed after that. I'm glad she was recast, I always thought Pat Priest was much better looking, though Beverly Owen seemed younger and friendlier.

Beverley Owen actually stayed for 13 episodes.

Beverley Owen only left because she went to get married.

Very often it happens that characters develop there 'personalities' through the run of a show. In this very early pilot, they were fleshing out the concept. Many standards of the show had been thought up and put in place. The pilot was used mostly as a showpiece for set, make-up, and the idea that they people thought of themselves as normal, while everyone else was weird. Thankfully, all three components made it to the series.

I loved the Wolf Wolf doll Eddie had..

@@cynthiaclarke3979 Me, too!!

@@FutureGirl2033 - I've always wanted one..still does and I'm 61.smiles..❤️❤️

@@cynthiaclarke3979 I grew up watching the reruns in syndication. My older sister watched the show during it’s first run and she wanted a Wolf-Wolf doll so badly. I don’t know why the show didn’t manufacture the doll like the show “Family Affair” did with the Mrs. Beasley dolls.

@@FutureGirl2033 - We used to get a few American tv shows when I lived in New Zealand..I think they might have made Wolf Wolf dolls,I just don't know if many if any could be bought at the store.I remember me mum would buy me a Barbie and back then me mum telling me they cost about $2.69 roughly..and me brother getting GI Joe and he would rip the head off me Barbie dolls.I do remember the Miss Beasley doll.I never watched "Family Affair" but "Courtship of Eddies Father" and had me very first ever girl crush on Caroline Ellis from the Bugaloos..so embarrassed as I explored me body.You would think they would had since they was trying to bring in money or as in the 70's they made all types toys from those tv shows.And now those toys are worth thousands or maybe hundreds of American dollars.I love your handle name..so into time travel movies..

That's because the guy playing grandpa never got replaced. And it looks like they did some makeup changes for Herman. Everyone got changed except for Herman and Grandpa. Marilyn wasn't changed till later - her own choice to leave.

I'm a little late to this party, but there was a little more to it than that. From what I read, Beverly Owen only signed on to do the show because she never thought it would take off, and she had signed a 7-year contract. When the show became a hit, it required her to move to LA from NY, and she was constantly sad and homesick. She wanted out of her contract and of course wanted to get married but they wouldn't let her, so the rest of the cast apparently marched into the office and said ”if you don't let her out we're all walking and you won't have a show". So they released Owen from her contract, but she was blackballed after that.

@@danieljackson1272 It was actually all part of a conspiracy, believe it or not. She and her boyfriend/eventual husband concocted this whole act that she would be so miserable on the set all of the time to make her impossible to work with, and let her out of her contract so she could relocate to NY and they could marry. Her husband was Jon Stone, who was the original producer, director, and one of the many original writers on SESAME STREET.

I totally agree. Yvonne was so good as Lily. So believable as the mother. The writing was so good too-they were a loving family who just happened to be monstrous.

Phoebe was too much like Mortisha from The Addams Family and I think that’s why they recast her.

Yeah.

Frank Provasek Ah. That explains a lot.

Frank Provasek Wow. I did not know that. I saw the show in syndication reruns in the 1970s and died laughing. This pilot is amusing bot the series was amazing.

Beaver was so boring and the Munsters were hilarious. The prototype for the Bundy’s, the Simpson’s and Family Guy. Comedy gold.

I've a memory when was black-and-white

Join the club - I've watched this show since it premiered in 1964.

Hallelujah, baby!!!

Gabriela Lovegood ÿ“

​@@MetFan37 Happy 60 years to The Munsters

This was remastered. I remember an earlier upload of this episode and it was what you would expect from a film several decades old.

Happy Derman as Eddie is terribly painful to watch.

***** LOL - One has to agree!

Brian Wilson same

Brian Wilson same

+Brian Wilson (hueyfann) I disagree I think it A tough contest between the two.

I would. I like this pilot better than the show

+Nichet Tucker , I'm glad that Fred Gwynne and Al Lewis were kept on, because they are amusing and memorable character actors here and in the regular series.

The monsters are much funnier I don't like Adam family too creepy

This "demo reel" was probably intended for NBC, who was virtually the ONLY network to schedule a handful of color shows in prime-time during that period [CBS had NONE; ABC- about two or three filmed shows]. When the SECOND "demo reel" was produced {with changes in cast and make-up}, that was for CBS' consideration. They "bought" the idea, and a full half-hour pilot was filmed for the series.

You never can tell.

Bonjour Emma i was waiting for your comment ! :) Yvonne is big on the screen, Joan being a little kind of a less a character make the others bigger than life, this is why I think Joan will have been good as Mama Munster !

Notice that the character of Hermann is different as well. In the series they made him more of a loveable goofball. That allowed Fred Gwynn to really bring out the best in his acting skills. He is so good in the series that he often upstages the other members of the cast.

***** Cool that you knew Fred Gwynne! (Loved the episode where Herman freaked out and yelled, "Car 54, where aaaaaaarrrrrrrre yoooooooooooou!") His makeup here is nearly identical to one of the test makeups for Boris Karloff from the first Frankenstein film.

dumbbo1 Fred Gyinn went on to play many parts on the radio show CBS Radio Mystery Theatre from the mid '70's to around 1990. You can google or click this link. archive.org/details/cbs_radio_mystery_theater He wasn't in all of them.

No argument about the kid!

Allen Woodall Lilly was very pretty

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Good critique MKIVWWI. I agree that Yvonne DeCarlo was better for the role of Lily -- partly because of her better handling of comedy and also she seemed seemed more like the matriarch of the family. The early Eddie was awful -- Butch Patrick's role as a regular every day kid was much better.

MKIVWWI why is it in colour when the original series started in black and white? Or am i getting mixed up with that.

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it was rare, but back in those days, some pilots were made in color; then with the decision to go to series, one of the cost-cutting options was b/w..the original pilot to ''Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea'' was in color, while the fist season was in b/w...later, it was the opposite: some pilots were in b/w and aired as first episodes, with the rest of the series being in color..''Hogan's Heroes'' and ''Get Smart'' (both 1965) are examples of that.....

MKIVWWI !

he doesnt look too happy.

And Joan Marshall came off like a dollar store Morticia Addams. Yvonne De Carlo is the ONLY Lily Munster!

@@codeblue8922 I'm honestly glad they recasted Yvonne as the Munster wife. The quality of this show would've deteriorated if one of the lead roles was a blatant Morticia Addams bootleg. Yvonne is just such a great Lily Munster. She's like a wholesome soccer mom that's not afraid to call you out if it's needed.

+Stablemable2 funny enough thats why yvone was cast instead

VERY FUNNY!!!

If I made a reboot of The Munsters, I'd have the pilot dedicated to them, in addition to finding actors that can recreate the magic Fred, Al, and Yvonne made in the show.

And Beverley. Unfortunately, I just found out that she had died over 6 months ago.

CBS wasn't telecasting ANY color programs when they "bought" the series in 1964, so filming it in color would have been pointless that season.

nah, black and white was much more appropriate. it was, after all, a spoof of all the old Dracula and Frankenstein movies which were all B&W. Besides, B&W is just plain creepier.

+YesYou123333 I agree because you couldn't tell what they really looked like in black and white.

+Kevin Enos I have to agree with you. There are things that are just better in black and white. I can't understand the bias so many people have against B & W. Personally, I like The Twilight Zone, the classic monster movies (Universal and the Geman horror expressionist/silent movies), film noir, and a lot of classic comedies better in B & W. Colorization of movies and TV series that were originally done in B & W has never looked right to me.

There were technically color broadcasts being done before the mid-1960s -- The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson WAS a full-color show from its inception in 1962 -- BUT the TV standards hadn't been nailed down and there were at least 2-3 competing color broadcast/TV standards before they began being set. The vast majority of people still had "only" B & W TV. It took a very long time for the color standards to be established. They HAD color sets in the 1950s but standard TV series/color production wasn't a thing until the late 1960s because of the extra film processing costs for color and the situation with the TV set manufacturers. That kind of situation (and the length of time it took to ESTABLISH a standard) is why the electronics industry does NOT like to set competing video standards. The last major format war we had was Blu ray versus HD DVD which pushed back the adoption of hi-def home video standards by the buying public for at least 3 years. Before that, there was the Beta/VHS situation in the late 1970s and early 1980s which kept videotape rentals and buys of movies on tape from being a big thing until the mid-1980s/late 1980s. It's just confusing for the average consumer and people will delay buying until they know a "standard" is going to last more than the next year! Star Trek (1966) was one of the first dramatic/comedic TV series specifically designed to be shot in color from the start and was marketed to sell color TV sets (RCA?). It's true that there were earlier full-color TV series like Adam West's Batman. 1966 seems to be a critical year for mass-acceptance of color TV. A lot of series began in color from their start that year. Other TV series transitioned to color around the same time but had earlier seasons shot in B & W (I Dream of Jeannie, The Beverly Hillbillies, Gilligan's Island). The mentality about "color-only" broadcasts was as much about the TV executives justifying the switch to full-color as the fact that a home video market didn't exist to resell old movies and TV shows until the 1980s. Sure, there were sales of 8mm film dupes of TV shows and movies but those were never as big as VHS sales later became but VHS itself took a long time to establish its presence. In the meantime, a lot of TV shows and anything in B & W other than established classics were junked and thrown away. That happened in both the US and the UK. A lot of classic TV series are incomplete (Doctor Who) or completely gone because of the practice of throwing away large parts of film libraries to make room for newer projects. There was never any thought these shows would be rebroadcast or eventually sold on home video in the future! Disney was one of the few companies that kept most of its TV and film projects with the thought of marketing these things again in the future. It's only recently that Disney abandoned its practice of recirculating certain classic movies about every 7 years. Before that, they used to rebroadcast episodes of older TV productions like the original Mickey Mouse Club and their version of Zorro on the Disney Channel.

+fool4singing colored tv was too expensive, that's why the show was in black & white

So, they never had the original colored tapes? :(

Good point, ant dude. I believe it was made on film, not video tape (which did exist at the time, but looked awful) so where are those rolls of film now, and are any more of them in color? I think it's likely that they used black and white film stock, partly to give it that Victorian Gothic look, and partly to save money; but they must have considered making it in color, otherwise there would be little value in making the pilot in color in the first place. Incidentally, it would not be too difficult a task to accurately restore the color to all the episodes. Black and white images contain all the tonal information needed to recreate the original colors. In fact, the early (classic) Technicolor 3-strip process used only black and white film stock, exposed through three color filters. Also on the subject of color, it's interesting to see that Herman is, in fact, a blue-ish grey color, and not bright green as many people assume when they have only seen the black and white shows.

Clark Kant Hey, you're not Superman. :P

I'm not? Then why do I keep getting undressed in phone booths?!