freddy can fly (throttle and pitch curves)

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Freddy Cordova

12 жыл бұрын

how to use throttle and pitch curves and understand them.

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@foolish-wanderer 2 жыл бұрын

Freddy your a champion, from sim training to first build your info has been GOLD, clear precise accurate, the best out there. Thank You brother..

@clubmyndset 10 жыл бұрын

Freddy You built my first heli an Align 500 and I now own a 450 DFC another 500 conversion from FB to DFC FBL 2 blade 130's one stock and one with more aluminum on it than I want to talk about. Point being YOU have answered all my questions over the past year or so. and I'm still very addicted to the hobby thanks to you and your willingness to share your knowledge. Without it I may have just given up. Thank you Freddy. You "ARE THE MAN"

@michaelwright6751 5 жыл бұрын

Freddy, this is a great explanation of the throttle /pitch curve, and it helps understand exactly what the engine does when pitch is increased. Very well done.

@evariste1686 7 жыл бұрын

thanks so much Freddie. You're a natural teacher, in all your videos. This is the only explanation i've come across that explains the reasons for the values, how to fly the heli for a given curve, and the real, practical consequences of changing them.

@MrTurnone 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to do this, really well done. One of the best explanations of pitch vs head speed I have seen

@markparsons5677 11 жыл бұрын

Wanted to compliment and also to thank you for the clear and helpful content of your videos. These are some of the most interesting and certainly some of the better quality instructional videos I have used to help my progression with this hobby. Although I am new to this hobby and ascending in years you have explained very well the dynamics of flight and the important concepts of setting up and balancing the throttle & pitch. I think for any new flyer this understanding is important.

@marcusnaismith5566 11 жыл бұрын

thanks Freddy. Down here in New Zealand , enjoying all of your helpful video's. Flying a 450 align pro fly bar and a Gaui Hurricane 500.Built an Align 550e flb under your guidance. Nearly in the air with 550. Any day Thanks Boss keep that camera rolling

@brandonstill7229 10 жыл бұрын

Once again Freddy, great video. Many can fly but few are also great teachers. Great Job. Keep um coming.

@edcammarata6430 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Fred, that was good for me I'm just a beginner,can hover move a bit, but by no means good. Right Now I'm at 86.5% on thrudle at mid Stick and about 6 % pitch at mid stick. Full throttle 96.5% I think I will lower my throttle to 80% at mid stick as u suggest I'm flying a old ion 2, 700mm I love your videos they been very helpfull to me,thank a bunch !!

@33forsaken 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words and all of the support. Fly safe buddy :)

@stevefox3763 7 жыл бұрын

what he says about pitch drag vs motor load is absolutely correct, i just want to add that any time you change to a different type of blades these values will change very slightly as every design of blades varys slightly in the amount of lift vs drag they exibit

@WillSr70 12 жыл бұрын

I've watched a lot of videos on this subject and they were talking go technical.The way u did it was perfect,I understood perfectly,thank u so much.Ill surely be watching and learning as much as I can from you.

@9jamesde 10 жыл бұрын

Nice, thank you, learned something new, got to understand what chasing the tail is and have always done wrong when setting the travel limit, never thougt of it locks when not giving a little return in both ends, thank you very much :)

@dylantaylor608 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you bud, always just left those alone. But I've crashed my electric 450 and now have tail drift when changing head speed in normal mode. I watched your video on gyro and this one. I should be able to figure it out now. Thank you very much

@33forsaken 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, there is a lot more up to date information on this topic. If you need any help shoot me a message buddy

@tukayyid74 10 жыл бұрын

Thanks Freddy really helpfull your videos. Just did. my 3GX setup with your videos.

@bwinn10 12 жыл бұрын

man i know not much about heli's of this size ive only flown micro and medium size dual axis helicopters all put together but i want to get into it a little more maybe a small build like a trex 250 maybe a spectrum remote but these vid's are helping me understand things a lot better thanks for all the info

@33forsaken 12 жыл бұрын

thanks for your comment i will be putting the advanced normal mode up soon thanks for standing by

@halleffect1 10 жыл бұрын

Freddy, thanks so much for taking your time to share your knowledge with us. Don't pay any attention to the simple minded idiots posting derogatory comments about you.

@dale8026 9 жыл бұрын

Please keep doing your videos. Im a new beginner. I have what looks like a Hirobo 30 (no name anywhere) and a Trex 600. I am learning a lot off your videos. Wish you lived in UK so you could come help. lol

@JoseFPVNavarro 12 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! Keep up the good work! Very helpful. Thanks.

@rmiklosh 5 жыл бұрын

Freddy. I got a question. I know, a receiver has initializing modes (beeps) and for the motor there is HIGH (fast response), MIDDLE and LOW. As for a beginner, which one would you recomend to have better control, for lets say, curves you sugested?

@garydsouza2335 2 жыл бұрын

you are good mate, you have explained that perfect, keep it up dont stop the advice

@33forsaken 2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks so much buddy :)

@mytube2415 12 жыл бұрын

HEY THANKS 4 SHARING UR KNOWLEDGE TO DA PUBLIC I'M LEARNING. KEEP UP GOOD JOB.

@kanyon161 9 жыл бұрын

Nice video but i have a question. Is this an overall guide to picth an trottlecurve? Can i use the same priciples on my hk 450 as well as on my hk 500? Or is this guide only for a specifik size. Thanks

@lw216316 6 жыл бұрын

My throttle cure screen shows a total of 7 points but only lets me set 1-5. How can I set the other 2 - so that I have a 7 point throttle curve ? my throttle stick stops 1/4 inch from top and 1/4 inch from bottom. When I try to set up throttle curve it only lets me set 5 of the 7 possible positions. Do I need to adjust the throttle stick to have full range of motion to fix this? If so, how do I make that adjustment ? I have a DX6E - thanks

@briansmobile1 12 жыл бұрын

It's also indicative of being "sick" as in "your tick-tocks are SICK bro!" ie. BA-SICK or even Bay-Sick. NOT to be confused with sea sick, motion sickness, or nausea.

@livinstunn6151 10 жыл бұрын

thanks man really appreciate it... very helpful!

@Adrenalin4x4 12 жыл бұрын

great video..i'm learning to fly my blade 450 3d coming from fixed pitch and wanted to ask you what a good throttle and pitch setup would be to hover around to learn nose in and all that

@simonunsworth8210 4 жыл бұрын

Freddy..... Very helpful video thank you so much - very well presented 😀

@33forsaken 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you :)

@davidlowe392 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time, very informative indeed.

@33forsaken 3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@michaeldunner2980 10 жыл бұрын

I havea walkera 450 flybarless 450 heli with a devo transmitter. I fly it in my den but when I try to land soft it seems to drop real hard. can you tell me what settings on my trans I need to set it on thankyoy

@33forsaken 11 жыл бұрын

yes your radio has two extra points for fine tuning. just follow the 5 point setups and use the extras as fine tuniing points. remember its called a curve so make sure it make a nice curve

@1975antoniosantos 12 жыл бұрын

tanks,,big hellp you give my,,now its easy tho my setup my trex 500,,great job man

@1701_FyldeFlyer 11 жыл бұрын

Hey Freddy. This is the best and clearest explanation for pitch & throttle curves I've ever seen. Really good. I take it the throttle curve works just as good for electric as a nitro motor?

@stephaniemacnamara2011 9 жыл бұрын

hi i like to setup the pitch curves low -6 ,mid +2, high +10 that is for the oeks that like to hover and switch to idle 1 in hover if u are hovering in normal at mid witch is +5 and u switch to idle 1 the heli will drop when u switch to idle 1 because idle 1 mid is 0.

@scrc511 11 жыл бұрын

Hi Freddy, I'm a little new with Futaba 8fg super. I have a trex 450 Pro Flybard version with futaba Gy401 Gyro, what's the best throttle curves & pitch curves can you suggest? I don't do hard 3d, mainly for sport flying for now but also mild 3d enough for the helicopter to be a little responsive on a flip & inverted flights. Your videos are great, but for someone like me to be on the safe side a given values would be real helpful. Thank you so much in advance.

@user-js5xq7ip5y 9 ай бұрын

Alot of guys are telling me.i want -9 0 +9 on the pitch curve, is that too low for a 450x ? Also what would the matching throttle curve would be at to match ? Thanks !!!!

@RecreationAutomotiveGarage 8 жыл бұрын

is that goes from all size heli?

@josemariacalebgarciayamin5250 6 жыл бұрын

Buenos videos amigo Freddy.

@garydsouza2335 2 жыл бұрын

when you say plus 5 at mid stick do i still set everything as per manual zero @ mid stick then adjust the pitch on the radio..to plus 5 at mid stick, then at top end and bottom end..

@33forsaken 2 жыл бұрын

Yes this was for older systems. On todays systems you want zero at center stick. and your full collective ranges at top and bottom. example. -12 low stick, 0 at center, and +12 at full or just a linear curve is what most FBL systems call for.

@rcwizzzz 12 жыл бұрын

running the new align 650 motor on my 600, i can barly keep it hovoring at full throttle. i have gone though the mechanical and radio setup changing it repeatedly to get it rite. i cant seem to get enough head speed even at 95% throttle. maybe a bigger pinion idk. a vid on that motor setup would be awsome. i havent been able to find much info on it.

@JustinKoenigSilica 9 жыл бұрын

can you say what throttle and pitch curves ARE?

@emiliogarcia4103 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for this! where is iddle 1 video? doy you hace a link? i cant find it

@33forsaken 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy this is a little out of date now a days most systems have GOV and flat throttles. But if you ever need any help or info feel free to shoot me a message on FB

@briansmobile1 12 жыл бұрын

When you add the "k" to basic it reiterates that the level is SO simple and conceptually sound that even spelling isn't critical...... you're welcome!

@daltonalfonso534 3 жыл бұрын

i realize it is kind of off topic but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released series online ?

@sethboden6657 3 жыл бұрын

@Dalton Alfonso i use FlixZone. Just google for it =)

@cruztimothy8637 3 жыл бұрын

@Seth Boden Yup, I've been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D

@wellsleland4933 3 жыл бұрын

@Seth Boden Thanks, I went there and it seems to work :) Appreciate it !!

@greyesteban7381 3 жыл бұрын

@Dalton Alfonso you are welcome :D

@Deortisable 7 жыл бұрын

Nicely explained

@MultiRacer19 8 жыл бұрын

"Basick" flight :)

@richiebricker 3 жыл бұрын

I bought a K110 and the yaw is way too sensitive in the middle where any throttle change also drastically affects the yaw. I cant find anyone to help me with this except that guy that wants to sell me his setup book. All the KZfaq reviewers said its so easy to fly, NOT MINE. My Volition V950 is easy to fly, maybe ill fix the antennae and stop worrying about 3D flight. Can ya give me any help?

@33forsaken 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy shoot me a message on FB messenger and we can talk :) maybe I can try to help

@jhunmonaco 11 жыл бұрын

hello sorry if i disturb you.. i just saw today your video about Throttle Curve and Picth Curve..can ask you a question or i need your help because l'm new on this Radio.my Radio Futaba 10 CG 2.4ghz.. so can you teach me what Normal throttle Curve and Normal Pitch Curve. my Radio is from 1 up to 7 not only 5 so Can you tell me. just reply me if you have time thanks

@tomstclair3390 12 жыл бұрын

Hey Fready, Great video very helpful. When will you do your next video showing how to set pitch 0 +5 +10. i think i understand. ?How does it affect swashplate throw? Thank you.

@PerryCodes 7 жыл бұрын

Ha... I'm BASICKLY lmfao right now.

@numex106 12 жыл бұрын

@nicholas5674 that's is partly true but it is still okay if you have it at 0 degrees because as the blades revs slow down it will come down no matter what :) you will need wind in excess of 200mph to not get the heli down :)

@bayeswan9922 5 жыл бұрын

freddy thank you are helpful.

@brianbb177 11 жыл бұрын

good ideas thanks

@Tabasconate1 11 жыл бұрын

USO when ever you do pitch curves the tx should be at mid stick? I'm a newB and I have no idea about pitch curves and how it relates to throttle curve at all, no idea on how to realy understand it all spin can set up my new heli to fly right with it. Don't understand how every one else got to the understanding of it.

@lgOptimusv 11 жыл бұрын

So of im a begginer 0 to +10 will be from not off the ground to air i can have all trhottel but at 0" it will not leave the ground correct can u help i wanna learn but need a better understanding on what a begginer needs to have programed in the remote and what all of them things do i know a lil

@TheBeastFPV 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks this will help alot need 2 do a flybar videos how 2

@Nish78pu 11 жыл бұрын

Freddy did you made your programming video for this? I couldn't find it.

@scaleernie 10 жыл бұрын

Hey Freddy! Great Video (as usual) :) ! I have a TT Raptor 30 V1 with a V2 all metal head. It has OS 37 motor. Can you recommend a good pitch AND throttle curve? I like a medium pepped heli. This is my first nitro. I've been flying 450's and 500's and i like them flying with a little pep to get me out of trouble if needed. Thanks for any info you have.

@raptorpome2577 3 жыл бұрын

Hello I don't know if you still have the raptor 30 but please see the link to a good Web site I have used it many times for my raptor 50 helicopters raptortechnique.com/raptor1config.htm All the best Ian

@shadav21 12 жыл бұрын

HOW MUCH DO U CHARGE TO BUILD A TREX 700?

@sirlancair 14 күн бұрын

super beginner here so first, Thank you for posting this explanation. I was wondering how the pitch curve begins at throttle setting of zero along the X axis, but the curve of the pitch is zero along the Y axis...mid way up, and not beginning at the same point as the throttle. .but, then I realized..i think, that there should probably be a horizontal line at the 0 pitch delineating positve and negative pitch .. is this correct? Or possibly the curve could begin at zero ON the X axis, and progress in the negative direction.. Im confused

@33forsaken 11 жыл бұрын

on nitro you should be using a gov... if that the case you use rpms and still a v curve to fall back on

@StrikerFin 12 жыл бұрын

ive learned that, when in normal mode with sick to 0 you may wanna have a little negative pitch. y, what if you have strong winds, you wont be able to come down.

@garydsouza2335 2 жыл бұрын

Whats you thought..trex 660N.. THR 0,70 80,90,100...Then pitch to match is 0 ,45 70,80,100..this gives me 70% pitch gives me 5 degree at mid stick.. dose this look ok to you normal mode... DX9 flybarred 600n le

@33forsaken 11 жыл бұрын

if you view my 3gx setup video 3 you can see how the pitch it setup using a tool and your radio

@maxwellmorris 9 жыл бұрын

I am learning Quad flight on a 400 size & find the best throttle curve for learning is 0%--- 40%---45%-----50%----55%----80% lift off is around 40% power between 45 & 55% a gentle rise and fall with the ability to hover with ease, for a quick rise I go up to 60 to 70% at 80% it will just be gone up in the clouds. Weight is 1.2 kilo motors A2212/15 930kv with 10"X 4.5" Props.

@xboxice2005 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah i just got into it and im thinking off adding a bit more pitch on low speed for take off and landing.

@stevefox3763 4 жыл бұрын

Can anyone help solve a problem I have with a 450 please. Its a flybarred 450 and its massively unstable in just hover, just the tiny corrections needed for hovering causes the heli to have sudden and aggressive bursts of lift the instant even the slightest stick input is given! It's driving me nuts and I really want to get it flying properly. Thanks, Steve.

@33forsaken 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, can you comment or IM me more info. Maybe I can help trouble shoot the issue. Maybe even do a test hover video so I can see. usually in a fly barred Heli, I would assume unbalanced blades or fly bar paddles. possible bent fly bar or head parts. In same cases it could be glitchy servos or bad CG, or even just need a different RPM setting ( the possibility go on forever lol). Feel free to shoot me some info and I would be happy to try and help brother :)

@stevefox3763 4 жыл бұрын

@@33forsaken I'm starting to move to the mechanical setup being the cause as you suggested, I have just setup a flybarless 450 running a kbar and it's suffering the same behaviour but in a much more mild form. I wonder if cheap servos could be aggravating it too, they have a small amount of play in them, not a problem on my fixed wing craft but they are allowing approx 1mm of play in the swash. One thing that may be of diagnostic use is that the busts of lift are far more aggressive with forward or back pitch cyclic, roll cyclic produces almost none but is still there to a small degree. What I find surprising is that with the exhaustive googleing and searching youtube, I can't find a single case of someone suffering the same issue yet I now have two helis doing it, others must have made the same still un diagnosed errors I've made? If the weather improves over the next few days (horrendous here at the moment) I'll try and get a clip of the flybared 450 misbehaving. Thanks for offering to help, I appreciate it. Steve.

@jonhdon188 10 жыл бұрын

hi freddy . i use futaba 14sg i dont understand what is 0 +5+10.. can you help?

@FelipeUgarteH 9 жыл бұрын

The degrees of the main blades

@nathansealey6270 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@slinkytreekreeper 11 жыл бұрын

I get your point but his facts are good. Dyslexic does not mean incompetent.

@joefinney8431 8 жыл бұрын

Great informations but my TX goes from 0-100 scale. This -12 and +12 doesn't seem logical as it wouldnt add much of a curve. Can anyone please elaborate on the differences if any?? Thanks in advance!

@Jaburu 7 жыл бұрын

0-100 is percent, while -12 -to 12 refers to degrees

@joefinney8431 7 жыл бұрын

+capoeiraES thanks

@josepenate7367 9 жыл бұрын

wow,thanks a million.

@33forsaken 11 жыл бұрын

for more help feel free to call or tex me at 801-654-2803 thanks freddy

@bucklee2945 9 жыл бұрын

ah for pitch I would set -10, -5, 0, 5, and 10 respectively. afterall we like 3d yes?

@samre3006 4 жыл бұрын

At zero I once made a mistake and chose Neutral pitch and got into deep shit. The helicopter would not come done to the altitude I wanted and ended up into a tree.

@33forsaken 4 жыл бұрын

Awww man sorry to hear, this has changed a lot over the last few years with FBL systems.

@audiotech6513 3 жыл бұрын

Freddy does this matter on a fixed pitch heli...because you cannot adjust the pitch anyway

@33forsaken 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly this is an old out of date concept I need to remove. Most models these days have GOV that require flat curves and no V shapes. But yes this would still apply for the older fixed pitch.

@88Ermax 12 жыл бұрын

Why u has a k in basic?

@saqibmian2010 10 жыл бұрын

Awsome vid u spelled basic...wrong...

@WillSr70 12 жыл бұрын

I meant to technical(ooops).

@erichiles9568 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have numbers

@33forsaken 4 жыл бұрын

Hello Eric, this one is a little out of date. If you need some more updated help on this topic feel free to message me or face book me :) I am happy to help.