He has a whole video about the ram pump.

We indeed have a video about a hydraulic ram, check it out here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLt-nMaEtL2YZnk.html

yep, another source if some one is interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7R4idCAyM6ll30.html

The outlet must be sunk under water to prevent the air goes into the tank. The pump can only ork only if the entire system is air tight and air proof. Water in the tank must be replaced with water from the intake and not to be replaced with air. It is good if you add preasure tank (as per ram pump. Put bucket with full of water at the outlet and the outlet sink under the water.. Mind you, you cannot put the intake and outlet from the same body of water. The bucket on the outlet can be higher or lower from the source of water. Bigger outlet pipe is preferable to ease the siphoning and withdrawl effect

@@WOT_utwente incorrect. it is a vacuum created in the drum that sucks the water upwards from the ground level.

I am building a swimming pool this next summer that will generate power for my home. I am very interested in your design.

Purpose of using a barrel is that you do not need any foot valve at the suction side.

he does not prepare the show very well, because he lack of knowledge

@@caaip38 This video is excellent. It shows that a drum „pump“ can not pump any water to a higher level. No siphon, priming barrel or not, are able to do that. No input of lifting energy. Please have a look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon The drum „pump“ is an example of a flying-droplet siphon. The video shows that no siphon can bring any water uphill.

Show us with a video!

Yeah he did this very wrong. First, the pipe at the bottom didn't feed water back into the basin below to create an endless loop. Not overly necessary, but if you want to prove it can continue to pump endlessly, that would be how. Next, you have to have a complete vacuum without air in the container. He did a shit job getting air out of the container before starting. Also, he had a super small container for the volume of water of the siphon tube.

Right. He should repeat by priming the pipe connected to the water source.

@@HostileRespite Are there any restrictions? How many meters below it can it draw water?

@@zoranpavicevic5710 It all depends on the mass of water in the tank exceeding the mass in the mass in the supply pipe. If this is the case, the next thing is to ensure a vacuum is maintained at all costs. The last thing is to ensure your reservoir and pipes can handle the negative pressure and don't collapse inward. Most pipes are made to withstand pressure OUTWARD, and that is our biggest limitation with this new pump concept. For longer supply pipes and larger reservoirs we may need to look at more robust vacuum container designs like old school archway brick designs to withstand the suction for longer distances. Alas, that's probably an application far beyond your needs... just to say, those are some of the considerations.

I think the limitation would be atmospheric pressure... the ability of atmospheric pressure to push the water up the intake pipe.

I agree with your analysis. I am planning on trying the same.

I agree. And also i think this doesnt work with smaller model because we cant also make water smaller XD

This guy does not know anything. Just a fool.

suction is siphoning. much respect for you physist...😂 but the guy only taking about siphoning most of these systems don't work on one principal. they work on several principles. so to understand the science behind it requires you to understand and appreciate several scientific principles😅😅

@@tuchibigboy3178 The science for this contraption is always the same, but there are rules that this stupid physicist didn't respect, on purpose to discourage people, typical of the Cursed Ones.

Have you really? WOuld love to try it out too

I was about to comment about the one way valve. Good thing you mentioned it already.

he made it all wrong......

I agree sir. Cause its a vacuum type..not a siphoning type. 👌👌👌

No, you haven't built anything and you're lying in your claim that it worked for you. It's an ordinary siphon. It doesn't matter what you place between the higher level and the lower level, because everything will work as long as the outlet is at a lower height than the inlet water level in the tank. However, it is possible to build a water hammer (water ram or hydraulic impact piston) as an amateur. You need running water, for example from a stream (it doesn't work in a well). Then it is possible to transport up to 0.1 percent of the incoming water by ram. If what you lied about worked, you could bring the outlet water back into the inlet and you would have a perpetuum mobile. Apologize to everyone you mystify.

Was your water outlet below or above the water level of the water source? If it was below I believe you. If it was above you are telling fairy tales.

If you made the same experiment with the output higher than the source and it wored, i’d say you are bluffing.

No, you're wrong. If the outflow is higher than the inflow, your "weight" difference is unable to draw water into the barrel. You must place the drain lower for the siphon to work. You have gaps in education. The drain pipe can be 10 km long and still the water column will not be pulled out if the end of the long pipe is above the level of the pumped water. It always depends on the vertical height of the water column with the cross section of the drain hole, which affects the pressure. The shape of the container, which is also a 10 km long pipe, has no effect on it and therefore it is not possible to pump water to the height in this way. In primary school, volume-independent leveling is taught under the name "Combined Vessels". The pressure in the small and large cross-sections, which is always the same, is taught at school under the name hydraulic piston.

@@DL-kc8fc This pump is not working off of siphoning principles, it is working off of vacuum principles. As long as the outlet pipe is large enough to break surface tension of the water and you put an air trap on the outlet, it should work, but it would have to be recharged after awhile. In other words, it is not exactly a free lunch. You are using more water to move less water similar to a ram pump.

@@wesbaumguardner8829 You've already written it somewhere. I have to repeat - you are wrong. It is a siphon and the siphon is a pressure pipe, so it works with underpressure (vacuum). Everything else (barrels, PET pressure bottles, check valves, etc.) are cosmetic elements that deceive you in third world people (to make it look sophisticated). This is best done with a long drain pipe that gets lost in the field so that you cannot detect that the pipe outlet is below the level of the pumped water. It is still a SIPHON that only works if the outlet (any large or small) is below the level of the pumped water. This is a physically proven principle that you have not tried when you claim that "it could work". :) The "booster" won't help either, because to induce the Bernoulli effect you will need 1000L of water to squeeze out 0.5L of water. Perhaps no one can seriously claim that this justifies the principle of fraud. This is a better water ram (water hammer, etc.) that "knocks out" one percent of the water flowing through the pipe in the stream.

@@DL-kc8fc I wrote that earlier when I thought it was a siphoning process. I now understand it better. It operates on the same principle a syringe operates by, but instead of using human power, it uses gravity to pull a vacuum which then moves a smaller amount of liquid. " It is a siphon and the siphon is a pressure pipe, so it works with underpressure (vacuum)." A siphon requires the inlet to be at a higher elevation than the outlet. That is not the case with this system. This system has the inlet at a lower elevation from the outlet. The siphoning function will not work with this setup. If there was no one-way valve, the water would flow out of the inlet pipe back into the source. However, the one way check valve prevents this from happening. So when the outlet is opened, water can only flow in one direction. The outlet pipe is too large to maintain surface tension and this breaks the vacuum, which allows water to flow. But if you installed a P-trap to create an air lock, you can prevent the vacuum from being lost all the way to the drum itself. So long as the water tank is a higher elevation than the P-trap, the water should flow because the pressure of the air is much lower than the pressure of the water. If about twice as much water is entering the system as is leaving it, it should draw some of the water into the tank. However, the tank will have to be re-filled by some method that requires energy at some point, so it is not a real solution to the problem. A windmill or some other form of powered pump would be a better option than this.

@@wesbaumguardner8829 Watch a video of another con man who seems to be working with a "vacuum". Under-pressure in a separate vessel has no effect and is only a useless thing that distracts from the usual principle. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9aqo8mUrdTQdYU.html&ab_channel=CLAYHOUSE You can see that the external pressure deforms the plastic barrel (from the internal under-pressure), but the water rises reluctantly. Why does the water rise a little? Because the height of the water level in the bucket under the barrel is higher than the outlet pipe (time 0:11). As soon as the water level in the bucket below the barrel falls below the level of the outlet pipe, the water stops flowing, even if there is any vacuum in the barrel and the barrel is deformed by this force with maximum force. It's a SIPHON. Do you understand? No "booster" will improve it.

it's the angle of the outlet pipe allowing air to gulp backwards along the outlet.

Please share the vedio

Everything must be well sealed, and even the smallest leak will reduce the efficiency of the system, although will not prevent it from working at least for a period of time until the volume of air within the container reaches a certain level and the volume of water within the container is reduced. The surface of the draining water acts as a piston and creates a partial vacuum.

This simply does not work. Please give us a video of your claim. You have just made a perpetuum mobile. Nobel prize in physics comming?

@@Dingsrud I am still experimenting and if I can get something to work I will post a video about it, I may even post a video if I can't get it to work, just to get clicks and earn revenue from the advertising. Your Nobel Prize idea sounds interesting I had not considered that. 🙂

Yes, you are right, it is the weight of water creating a vacuume within the container that is the key to how the system works.

But your advice is no good. The presentation here shows that the barrel syphon are not able to pump water to a higher level.

Hi Collin, thanks! Glad you liked it.

You are absolutely incorrect. Your experiment model was built completely wrong. Your inlet was the same star as your outlet, you also lost your vacuum. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eLSjoplhuMy5lKc.html

@@daviddorshak8811 You're wrong. There is one big fundamental mistake in your reference to the video - the barrel was intentionally built on the bricks above so that the outflow from the barrel was at a higher height and the illusion of outflow could be applied, preferably somewhere behind the bushes. The bucket of water had a higher level than the outflow from the barrel. It is a normal siphon that actually draws an amount of water that is higher than the drain from the barrel. Notice that there is half the water left in the bucket and it no longer works. The pipe in the well did not really pump water because the weight of the water column did not allow it. The water in the pipe acts as a hermetic valve and is not pumped. Therefore, the barrel was squeezed in when the drain was released. This is perfectly legitimate, but it has nothing to do with pumping water. It is very sad that educated civilized people have joined the Third World fraudsters. These people should spread enlightenment and fight against ignorance.

It can nor work, and that is his point.

And how long did the water flow out of the outlet?

Thanks so much for sharing. Please people should shear their findings on Utube about any of those DIY scams that cost people lots time and money. I had spent 20yrs on wood gasifiers with no genuine result on Utube.

@@franklinibiademosi9615 Scam videos are a nuisance. As far as these "pumps" are concerned, the correct statement is simple: when the outlet is higher than the water level in the water reservoir this does definitely not work, never mind what you try with pipe dimensions, valves or other stuff. Water can't be lifted to a higher level without an input of external energy. On the other hand, if the outlet is lower than the water level in the water reservoir, it can work. But in this case no barrel is needed, it is sufficient to prefill the pipes/hoses with water. Water will then flow upwards and downwards by the siphon effect, which was already known B.C. But the downflowing height must be bigger then the upflowing height.

@@heinzpg but would't the drum on the top filled with water, and the water weight complete the circle? I did one just like in the videos but didn't work. All sealed, primed etc

@@mariusneumayer4419 This is a question of air and water pressure, and water pressure does not depend on the weight of the water but only on the height of the water column. This becomes evident when you connect a thin and thick pipe at the bottom. There is more weight of water in the thick pipe, but this doesn't push the water in the thin pipe upwards, the water level is the same in both pipes. Don't waste your time with this "pump". What the video says and what I have written in my comment to "franklinibiademosi" holds. Lifting water continuously to a higher level without an input of energy would mean a perpetuum mobile: you could let the water flow down again to the well and drive a turbine on its way. But perpetuum mobiles do not exist. There is also another plausible explanation why it can't work: if the water flows out of the drum a vacuum forms at the top. But this vacuum does not only suck on the water in the pipe going down the well, it also sucks at the water in the drum itself. If the outlet is higher than the water level in the well, the vacuum already stops the outflow of the drum before it is strong enough to lift the water.

It really works??? Strange that I see it only working in videos, I never encountered this system anywhere else. If this would work, you could feed the outlet back in the well and you would have a continuous circulation of water. And you could even drive a water wheel with it and generate electricity. A perfect perpetuum mobile! But haven't we learned in school that perpetuum mobiles can't exist?

Why keep saying it works when it doesnt? It physics. It will be the no matter how much money the scammers make from their youtube videos, it still doesnt work. Sorry.

Sorry, does not work unless input is higher than exit.

This boy didn't close the lid tightly. If you watch most videos the make sure air is completely closed out, even by using a piece of plastic sheet.

BINGO!!!! We have a winner.

you do not need any one way valve if the plumbing is correct lenght and air tight. submerge output in an open top vessel to prevent air from intruding back through output pipe. air in this system makes it fail. keep the air out and it will run till there is no more water to pull. i can lift water out of my pool 48" and drop back in. im working on a larger model using an air compressor tank . all other drums have collapsed due to MASSIVE pulling force created by the weight of the down side plumbing. the air getting in IS an indicator that the concept is viable .the fact that noone is taking the air intrusion factor seriously is the reason any of them fail. it works and HOW!

1- on start of the intake tube or sucking tube in water sorce U need one way valve. NO YOU DO NOT 2- U need a pressure "tower" like in ram pomp. NO YOU DO NOT 3- the "sucking" pipe cross-section has to be smaller. NO YOU DO NOT 4- the length of output pipe is not less than 5 metres, NO YOU DO NOT, JUST PUT IT INTO A WATERFILLED SMALL BUCKET. and then you are good to go ;) NO YOU DO NOT - IF THE OUTLET IS HIGHER THAN THE INLET. You will have no siphon effekt if the outlet is higher than the inlet.

@@KevinFreist xB

Noop, given that the tank is large enough, the tank will prime the siphon.

I don't even think you knew what you were talking about with this comment. Read it, it doesn't make sense.

We shall live and happy in this world.the wicked shall not prevail. For God is love. Thanks alot.

Thanks for fact sharing guys. Bravo

It simply can not work regardless of output length of tubing. A siphon can not lift any water! If this worked, you could ad a hydropower turbine to the water flowing back and you would have a Perpetuum mobile. Impossible. Dint spoil time and money on this.

oh.. great! Probably you try putting some generator in the path somewhere. World will get free electricity. RIP foolish scientists burning coal for so long.. lol 😆

There is something else to think about. If this pump would work, you could at once build with it a perfect perpetuum mobile. Best proof that this pump does *not* work, never mind what adaptions you try.

Valves are not needed at all.

I haven't checked if WOT has done something wrong, but he is absolutely right that this system does _not_ work. If it would work, why is it nowhere in use? It seems to work only in YT-videos! And it would clearly violate conservation of energy. Lifting water out of a well needs energy. Where does it come from? If this would work, you could build a perfect perpetuum mobile. Feed the outlet back in the well. You would have a continuous circulation of water and could even drive a small turbine by it. To nice to be true! Perpetuum mobiles don't exist.

Thanks, for your encouragement. I 've just concluded an unsuccessful one with 24litire tank. So I will try it again.

You’ve missed the whole idea. In 6th grade you learn that a siphon can not lift any water. And yes, this is a siphon with a priming barrel.

1) Tank size is more than adequate. 2) He shows that air will tend to enter the system from the outlet. You see tha water only comes out after a gulp of air has entered the tank. If you dip the output into a tea cup, no water will come out of this system. In fact, if the orifice is smooth enough, you could hold a piece of a thin plastic lid against the outlet. Water would stay in the bucket an no water will come out. 3) He primed the system: filled it with the exit closed. Put an ait tight lid on the bucket. With a bucket, there is no need for filling the suction pipe.

correct!

No.

good luck with the 5 droplets of water that the capillary system will give. because it will need a pipe diameter of around 0.5 mm and evaporation to work

Agreed. The barrel is a priming tool so you do not need any foot valve at the source end.

Thanks lol, even fictions become great inventions this days and better laws of visics are emerging. Just opportunities and scammer we need to be vigilant of. Cheers.

If you have seen these “pumps” working, they bring water from a canal, over a ridge to a rice field THAT IS LOWER THAN THE CANAL. They are siphons with a priming barrel. No siphon can lift any water.

@@franklinibiademosi9615 In regard to water and air pressure no better laws of physics are emerging. If someone claims that this device can lift water to a higher place he is a scammer. Siphons only work to make water flow to a lower place, although part of his path is uphill.

The magic works, as I understand it, when the weight of the water in the container exceeds the weight of the water being sucked up the inlet pipe. As long as the volume of water in the tank is greater than the volume of water in the inlet, and there are no air leaks, it will work perfectly every time.

​@@tinfredrickson2880 It doesn't matter how much weight is in the container, it's still just a siphon. Water can only be pulled up by more water going down even farther. By filling the container at the beginning, you are adding that much energy to the system. At most, in a perfect world which doe not exist, it could pull the same amount of water up as it falls. In reality, there are always losses to entropy, and it can never even pull up the same volume of water as was innitially put in the tank. Unless, of course, the outlet is lower than the water intake, in which case it can keep going until the two water levels match.

Exactly what I think, also like cypher gas from gas tank

Hi, the fact that you hear the bubbling sound and that water comes out in pulses also means that air gets in via the outlet. If there would be a significant air leak in the seal of the bucket I would expect there to be a continuous flow, then air will not have to enter the bucket through the outlet pipe. That said, it might still be possible there is a small air leak. But considering the bucket used was a paint bucket, which should seal off well, I expect the bucket to be airtight. You are right that suction pulls up the water. It is however important to understand that this suction force is limited. If you drink from a 10 meter high straw you will have difficulty getting the water up, as you can imagine. In our case the suction force is caused by the downward flowing water. As shown in the video the pressure (or suction force if you will) caused by a column of water is only dependent on the height difference in the outlet. The suction force required to pull water up is dependent on the height difference in the inlet. In other words: if the outlet pipe is higher than the inlet pipe, the suction force created by the water in the outlet is not large enough to suck the water up through the inlet. Therefore you can only pump from a high level to a low level. And that’s also the takeaway message from this video. Whatever your setup: If you don’t add energy to the system, you cannot pump from a low point to a high point.

@@WOT_utwente 👍

@@sothaketh8929 "siphon", not "cypher".

Herons fountain is no pump. A ram pump is a total different system. This system can not pump water upwards.

There is no free energy involved, the system is driven by the energy obtained from gravity pulling down the atmosphere to surface of the earth at 10.3 tons per square metre at sea level. That is a lot of potential energy, only a small proportion of which is needed to lift a relatively small amount of water up the inlet pipe. However, as usual the devil is in the detail.

Yes!!! Debunk free Energy electric generators. Thanks lol.

​@@franklinibiademosi9615 There is energy in this system through gravity, and possibly it is just that no one has yet figured out how to productively use that energy. If people do continue to experiment with it then who knows what someone may discover. For example, after messing about with it, I have now discovered how to use free energy from the wind to drive a similar system, and have posted a diagram on the second page of my website describing that system which will definitely work because it is so simple and is based on known technology. I am not allowed to post a link here, so either search at Google using the term 'sandponics info' or go to my KZfaq channel at '@sandponics' to access the website URL and learn more. I will eventually post a video on my channel describing the pump system, although I need to first build a working prototype to demonstrate.

@@sandponics Thanks, nice to know that

@@sandponics KZfaq "sandponics" not available, full URL will be nice.

I think it would work, but you would have to recharge it occasionally. The outlet has to be twice the size as the inlet. So, either twice as much fluid is leaving the system as is entering it, or the fluid entering the system would have to move twice as fast, possibly some combination of the two. I think it would be closer to option #1, where more fluid is moving less fluid. Essentially, it is similar to a ram pump, but without the water leaving the system.

@@wesbaumguardner8829 Even "recharging" doesn't work because it's SIFON. The principle of the siphon is that the outlet water column must create such a low pressure that the inlet water column can be sucked in. This can only be ensured by placing the outlet below the level of the inlet water column. If you wanted to "charge" it with the external tank above, nothing would appear on the output. You would have to drill air holes in the external tank and then the external tank would be emptied, but the original tank would remain unchanged. By the Berllouni effect, part of the liquid could be withdrawn from the low-lying original tank, but it is only a ml of liquid, as in a spray. A water hammer or ram is more efficient - it can hydraulically "knock" to a height of 0.1-1 percent of the inlet water column, which requires some minimum flow, as in a stream (it does not work in a well).

@@DL-kc8fc It does not work off of siphon principle. It works off of vacuum principle. The outlet is twice as large as the intake, so more water is leaving the system than is entering it. This creates a vacuum that draws a smaller amount of water up higher than what is leaving the system. It's like having two gallons of water tied to one end of a rope on a pulley, and the other end tied to one gallon of water. Assuming you were able to get this to work, more water would be leaving the system than entering it so you would have to recharge the system by hand or some other method involving energy.

@@wesbaumguardner8829 What you describe is still the siphon principle. The siphon is a pressure pipe, ie it works with a vacuum when sucking open liquid to a lower place than the water level being pumped. It's SIFON no matter what other useless things fraudsters give it to make it look sophisticated. If you had a lower drain hole larger than the siphon suction hole, little water would flow out. As soon as a lot of water flows out, air is allowed to enter the barrel by a valve that is open for video purposes, even if it looks closed in the video. You were deceived by people from the Third World who used the siphon principle in confusing terrain. The laws of physics do not allow water to be drawn through a thin pipe through a barrel with an extended outlet if this outlet is above the level of the water being pumped. No magical things happen. If you add another higher tank of water as a "booster", nothing will happen because it is hermetically sealed. You would have to increase the diameter of the drain pipe so that air can get into it, which will allow both barrels to be emptied. Then a Berllouni effect can occur, which "pulls" a little liquid from the lower level under the pressure (this is the SPRAY principle). But at the cost of enormous waste water consumption. Therefore, I wrote that it is better to use a water ram (water hammer, etc.) in the flowing water of a stream (does not work in a well). It doesn't matter that you are wrong, because you learn by mistakes. If what you think worked, we would have had a water perpetuum mobile and no energy crisis in Europe for a long time. It doesn't work as you would like and no one has a Nobel Prize. Try to include this perspective if you do not have mastered the laws of nature.

@@wesbaumguardner8829 I can recommend a video of another cheater who seems to be working with a "vacuum" to see that under-pressure in a separate container has no effect and is just a useless thing. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9aqo8mUrdTQdYU.html&ab_channel=CLAYHOUSE You can see that the external pressure deforms the plastic barrel (from the internal under-pressure), but the water rises reluctantly. Why does the water rise a little? Because the height of the water level in the bucket under the barrel is higher than the outlet pipe (time 0:11). As soon as the water level in the bucket under the barrel falls below the level of the outlet pipe, the water stops flowing, even if there is any vacuum in the barrel. It's a SIPHON. Do you understand?

can you share the link of the video?

NO, he's not a "good" scientist. His foundation understanding is uneducated.

@@guyfaux1494 Since his conclusion - this kind of systems only works if the outlet is lower than the water leven in the water reservoir - is correct, his knowledge of science is quite good. What point do you claim is "uneducated"?

read my posts. you are correct.

Noop. Tank is ok. You may extend the horizontal length of the output. In that case it only will take some lonnger time for the bucket to drain.

Quadrupling the length of the output tube won't make any difference.

Yes, but only if inlet is higher than outlet as with any siphon.

They are ordinary Clickbait crooks. That makes them money. Look no further for this.

Perpetual motion is not impossible, the rotation of the planets is just one example…

A valve (as used here) is a gravity mechanism, sort of a "marble plugging a hole" sort of thing. I do not know of a valve that would work on the output, other than a shut-off.

@@mariana1964 And with a tank, you do not need any foot valve at the intake.

@@Dingsrud Here to help out your buddy? LOLOL!!! You guys are hilarious, obvious, AND oblivious as can be -- but lovable... sort of. In other words, not too bright, but adorable all the same! I remember when I _still believed_ in all that science-y stuff like you still do. That was many eye-openers ago, friends. Most of it is pure BS, though. You will learn that one day, too, hopefully. Okay, so I'm done here. Yes, the barrel works if done correctly, and yes, you need a foot valve. No, a normal siphon can't pump uphill, but this isn't normal, just like a jet turbine isn't normal, yet works without external input power once it is running. Mankind has NEVER created a pure vacuum, so what makes any of you think we understand the subject well enough to rule anything out?

I meant to say the jet works with VERY LITTLE fuel, not none.

@@mariana1964 I suggest that you take a look at this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM-Em61q27vFl4k.html You can see that no foot valve is needed. In a normal set up with the output lower than the input, the tank can be used as a priming device. As such, no foot valve is needed.

my sense tells me it would work. science will have to explain it better. real life it should work...

Hi Burgandi, as mentioned, we replicated and tested the setup you can see at 0:15. In their video on this setup there is no mention of a one way valve.

No, you can never get more energy out of a system than you put into it. In the real world, there are always losses to entropy, meaning it will stop moving after the innitial energy is dissipated. In a 100% efficient electro-mechanical system (which does not exist), you could get perpetual motion, but you couldn't actually do anything with it, you couldn't use that energy for anything. It's like the Moon orbiting the Earth. If you use it's motion to power anything, it will slow down and fall closer to the Earth. (In fact, the Moon is slowing down the Earth's rotation and moving higher in its orbit, but that's another conversation.) Another example is a superfluid with zero viscocity, wich does actually exist. You can set it in perpetual motion flowing around a tube, but you can't extract any energy from it without slowing it down. Essentially, it's just in orbit like the Moon.

You could generate power from a syphoning system, where the source is higher than the exit, therefore water is dropping in height. like a hydroelectric power plant

@@jabyers Sure, but that is indirectly collecting solar energy (heat>evaporation lifting water). He's talking about a perpetual motion machine with no external energy source.

As he said in the video the "weight" of the water isn't important, only the height of the watercolumn counts. If the system is airtight you can disregard the bucket (when it comes to siphoning) so you would be trying to siphon upwards (which does not work).

Tom, your insights from having hands-on experience are helpful. "...this idea should work. If... air is entering your bucket, of course the demo failed... It must be absolutely airtight... make sure you bucket is airtight, and I think it will siphon water out of your hole in the ground. The weight of the water in the bucket must be somewhat greater than the water in the suction pipe." See my comment here for some similar points, and for a link to what appears to be a working version of what he tried to demonstrate.

I think long output pipe helps with streamlining the flow and reduce turbulence, thereby reducing air pockets. Any any small air pockets travelling back to tank are being trapped into the traps and helps maintain the vacuum.

You succumbed to misinformation. You will never pull a water column of water of any cross-section, which is more than 10 m long, with any vacuum pump (not even electric-vacuum) !!! Write this down somewhere in red. No tank works on the magic principle you want to present. The air compressor that sucks the air out of the tank is simply switched on and the tank is filled. If the tank has a lower preferred position, the compressor is switched on to fill the tank better, because the shit is denser than water.

Cheers, lol.

No siphone can lift water to a higher level, impossible. Against well known laws of physics. Now if you have a ram pump down in the stream, that is another thing.

Hi, as mentioned, we replicated and tested the setup you can see at 0:15. The size of the tank we used is pretty similar to the one in this video.

No it'ss not the same.

Hi Derrick, we replicated and tested the setup you can see at 0:15. The lengths of the pipes match quite well with this setup.

The fraudulent principle can be detected on any scale. Many times, knowledge of natural laws is enough. If you believe it works, why not build it yourself? You're so cunning you don't build it because you know it's a scam. This is a compliment, not a reproach. :)

@@WOT_utwente replication and reproducibility... you did not replicate the other system... you made a rinky dinky contraption... 😂 major failure... DERP

The video shows that this set up can not pump water uphill. No siphon can do that. Excellent video.

I'll give you infinite money... but you have to get it all at once.

Exactly rights

What you have is a siphon flowing down - the other videos were pretending like they magically siphon water up. That is what will never work. It breaks the laws of physics and the laws of thermodynamics.

@@Kevin-bz8dx We do not care about the laws of thermodynamics or physics. We care that this pump works.

@@skhumbuzocele1330 That might be the most accurate description of the KZfaq comment section I have ever seen

Sorry, but you are mistaken. If, and only if, water level at source is higher than at the exit, THEN this siphon will work. And that is what he is proving, it will NOT work because the source here is placed too high, on purpose! There at two mandatory issues to keep a siphon running: 1) Air tight 2) Source higher than output. The rest are details. Length of tubes, diameter of tubes, barrel or no barrel,…

Aside from carbon fuels, most of the world's energy is produced by "free energy devices". They convert forces of nature into electricity. Simple. And this demo is dishonest because he didn't actually replicate their device. See my other comment which explains.

We'll get there someday! The laws of thermodynamics only apply to people that "believe" them. Over-unity 4 life!

It's a gravity syphon with extra parts. It didn't work because he didn't prime the pump.

And what about photovoltaic panels? They work well. They are dependent on the sun, but no official has yet thought of paying for the sun (so far we only pay for investment in technology), so it is free energy. :) Unfortunately, the water perpetuum mobile from KZfaq is still fueled by the stupidity of those who believe in such devices. Because human stupidity is infinite, so is the free energy they worship in their religion without ever bringing functionality and real benefit. Just the perfect attributes of religion. :)

@@DL-kc8fc You're exactly right about solar panels ("we only pay for investment in technology"). Then it produces electricity. Or build project A, B, or C instead. Does it also produce electricity afterward, without burning fuel and without additional human input? Is that a free energy device?

It is a simple siphon with a priming tank. It does not work since the output is higher than the input.

One purpose of using a barrel to a siphon is that you do not need any foot valve.

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Same tough, I'm still skeptical but as nothing is done properly here I do not consider it's a definitive proof.

His experiment did not follow the siamese tectnik... Out put mus be bigger but the end of the out put must be same same saiz with the in put..so that the water never stop.. Then he never built the air trap.. It help the presure tu force the water to go out...

Hi, as mentioned, we replicated and tested the setup you can see at 0:15. The size of the pipes we used is pretty similar to the one in this video. For the reasons explained in our video at 5:00 we think changing pipe diameters will not have an effect.

You may be right. And what he's trying to debunk has a one way valve on the end of the intake pipe. See my other comment about that.

@@trone3630 well that would be just an extra so you don't have to bother topping up every time you start it. The idea is that the pipe dimensions have to be correct for the pump/capillary effect to work out. It'd be the same thing if you tip down a coke bottle it creates vacuum and the bottle shrivels by itself, if you widen the bottle neck it won't be able to do this.

I suggest yoy watch the video one more time. It clearly shows that the lid is tight. This wideo shows that a siphon can not lift any water to a higher level. No energy input to do the work!

He has a lid as shown in the video.

Hi, as mentioned, we replicated and tested the setup you can see at 0:15. There is no mention of a foot valve nor did they prime the inlet pipe in this video.

@@WOT_utwente But you have an air leak. It seems their whole premise is that as the water exits it creates suction. Do it right next time.

This video shows that no siphon can lift any water. Learn for life never point out that source must be elevated higher than output for this to work.

Hi Roman, do you mean that you want to pump water from a 60-75 ft deep well? This is not possible with this 'device'. You will need a manually or electrically driven pump. You can have a look at ropepumps if you are interested in manual pumps.

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Does not matter at all.

Wirklich? Das ist ein Siphon. Kein Siphon kann Wasser auf ein höheres Niveau heben, wie er in seinem Video zeigt. Das ist nicht genial, es kann einfach nicht funktionieren!

Yes, and here we learn that a siphon can not pump water uphill.

no you didn t you just got indoctrinated by a fool. this works . i have a few that work well. air is the enemy. poor example and materialz used in this video.

@@KevinFreist video is excellent. If you have a siphon that can lift water it is a sensation!

First, source must be higher than output. System must be air tight. That is all that is needed for a siphon to work.

@@kjellg6532 they say you need a larger exit pipe, but a smaller exit port/hole. Second, I notice they put pressure regulators on them to keep it from "gulping" or "Glugging" . One of these days I want to put together a experimental set-up.

@@NormBaker. Yes, air leaking in from exit can be a problem. You may lift the output upwards with a 30 degree bend, use a hose hanging in a “U” or simply dip the output into a bucket of water. This will prevent reverse air from output.

Impossible. No siphon can lift water uphill.

This excellent video shows that tis system will not work from any well, not even a 1 inch deep well.

You can even drop the whole barrel, no need.