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Why is your app so expensive

@@snawan-ie9pz How much do you think drum lessons cost? I'm not saying the app is for everyone, but I am not a drummer and even I know the craapload of content these guys have in there. If you can't affort it, a lot of it is for free in here.

Please invite David Diepold next

economy of motion, very little waste

yeah when you play a song a million times, you get more relaxed over time. I remember some metal songs I used to be out of breath and stressed, now I can play a lot like Mike does here

And when I play it I have a panic attack

I Thought could be The New Judas Priest Song 😂

​@@MrShangtsungYeah, I was also confused 😅

He got one

Me too

then he needs like another 3 for Dance of Eternity

Portnoy needs to be in the drummer Hall of Fame.

Me too

Not to take away from the magic, but one of the reasons for multiple camera angles in addition to creating movement and visual interest in editing is to also create spots for different takes. Not to say that Mike couldn't do this in one take, but it would take FAR longer to record the video if they had to stop and redo the entire thing every time something wasn't perfect. There is a good chance that this video is half a dozen or more different takes punched together like you would do on a record.

@@morgancross5481 There is also a good chance that he did it in one take

@@morgancross5481 I kinda doubt they had time to do that to be honest. They filmed quite a lot of content in just a few days. Doing 10 (to name a number) takes of every track is not something I'd say is conceivable.

xD

@@SyntheticFuture My point is though that if you set up everything like a recording session with the ability to punch in and out that it is much faster than attempting one take. He isn't running through the entire song 10+ times, he'd be playing it in chunks. Sure if they set up and ran through perfectly and nailed it the first take then awesome, plenty of time saved, but the moment there is any flub or mistake anywhere then you're immediately losing tons of time by going back and redoing it. Look at Mike's playthrough of LTE - Hypersonic on his YT channel from two years ago, specifically the section from 4:50-5:30. There are dozens of cuts and punch-ins including several wardrobe changes lol. Mike is clearly comfortable punching in and out like that, something he wouldn't have to do if he was a one-take wonder. Nothing wrong with it!

Did you mean to say diverse? 😅

@@Ash_Hudson no I meant divisive. Drummers are always bickering about stuff. It's hard to go to a drumming video comment section and not seeing a bunch of toxic threads everywhere.

@@king-manu2758 I can't really confirm that, I see it quite the opposite way. Maybe we're watching different drummers :D?

I mean everyone has been influenced by his drumming at this point. Everyone in modern metal plays Portnoy fills

I was sad when he left dream theater but never mad at him. I was always hoping that he'd come back and just being blessed by him coming back is amazing

Yeah that's his style, it's crazy!

The way he plays this, I would believe it if you told me he'd played it a thousand times before.

I love it

well the man designed the drums on the track so one would hope he does it easy if he made it lol

I don't think there's a lot of technical effort on this particular song. The licks are quite repetitive and overall, esp. with double kick usage, not that hard. a lot of cymbal work and odd-sounding-yet-straight cymbal work. but in terms of groove and flow - oh hell yeah he's in it 110%.

out of all the harmonix games, RB2 had the best catalogue of songs

I played this song on Rock Band 4 just a few hours ago on bass on hard :D Good times!

I learned this song on expert long before I got myself a real kit, and once I finally got one it was the first thing I attempted to play on it. Took awhile to adjust (and the nonstop double pedal during the instrumental break still gives me trouble) but it's a banger! Also it made me acutely aware of how Portnoy's mixed it up a bit over the years since the original recording, he's got some new grooves in this video!

Rb3 👋

Still play it on clone hero on pc, with my roland kit plugged in. As close as you can get without making your neighbors call the cops.

I really hope they'll do a Octavarium Anniversary tour

First time I saw them live was on that tour! Getting old 😅

Can we ALSO appreciate that the Score DVD is two years from being 20 years old! :D

Jesus!! I'm gettin old lol.

@@LungMing23 same, 🤍

Yeah right😅

"Do you want to hear the original???" "Nah..... not really"

I'd like to hear someone like Vinnie Colaiuta, Billy Cobham, Steve Smith or Bobby Jarzombek try to play this song in a "Hears for the first time" feature. I'm pretty sure they'd pull this off in 3-4 takes max.

@@thegreatcornholio80Or Marco Minnemann.

​@@gringochucha he auditioned for Dream Theater lol it wouldn't be a first listen

Nice DT quote there

I see what you did there...

Marco Minneman is right up there with the likes of Portnoy, Danny Carey, and Tomas Haake, I can't really pick just one though. Marco essentially turned down the Dream Theater gig when Portnoy ventured into other things.

​@@bankerjumperMarco is at an elite level in terms of skill, but he doesn't have anywhere near the legendary body of work that the guys mentioned do. His solo stuff is good and underlooked for sure and he's played on some bangers, but it's clear why he's not near the other guys' level in terms of solidifying himself as an all-time favorite

I feel the same. In my mind it's because his Portnoys drumming, while complex, has an air of accessibility, you can understand it without churning your brain. It sounds human.

He's excellent for sure though my vote still goes to Gavin Harrison

Mike Portnoy Is the Maradona of drumming

Agree, mangini is great and I liked all his albums, but still great to see portnoy back. And know it will be a great album, if it is as good as some of the older ones we will just have to wait and hear. But I really like all their album, some better then others but none of them bad

Hopefully we get another Astonishing album!

Same here

Same here! Been playing guitar for many years and JP is my guitar hero, but MP is my overall music hero and just someone I look up to in general

For sure, he left right around the time when they started to seriously lose it. Definitely not a coincidence. Stoked what they've might got in store now that they're reunited.

Portnoy was arguably at least ten years ahead of everyone else on sharing drum playthrough videos on the Internet and on DVD. Not only that, his website from almost 25 years ago would let you play his drum kit by clicking on it. Very innovative.

In his defense, he stated in the livestream, that he hasn’t played this song or a lot of other dream theater songs in over 10 years due to it leaving a sour taste

Yeah I was like... "Wait that doesn't go there but it's a freaking awesome fill!"

My fav is 6:42

@@Gen3tx He also said that he always improvises a certain amount live.

in my opinion, he sounds even better now

It’s a different fill from the studio recording.

@@flightgravity7483yeah he likes doing whatever fill he has in mind whenever he gets to those, except the more iconic ones I guess

@@flightgravity7483 ah that might be why it stood out then. Is it just 2 snare hits at the end on the studio version?

@@whiteglovepc It’s a snare fill (32nd notes?) that ends with a flurry of splash cymbals.

Also the highlight for me, this part.

Now the only things missing from a potentially amazing DT record are Kevin Moore... & new vocal cords for James ^^"

I'm just finding out from these comments that he's back. I'm ecstatic!!!

Hell yeah me too!!! Rock band 2🔥🔥🔥🔥

Jajaja poser

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Then failed after 10 sec.

​@relaxenmicocina3946 how...

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ended up having a full blown panic attack

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Same

What!???? He's back in DT????

@@LungMing23 October 23

@@BlakeandMarjie lol dude! Your comment is what set me down the rabbit hole reading interviews and videos about MP returning. Thank you. I'm so happy about this news!

@@LungMing23 it’s my privilege friend - cheers to the real DT making music again. I do think Mangini is more technical as a drummer. But Portnoy has a drumming feel comparable to Neil Peart of Rush. Every hit is intentional. Let’s ride!

@@BlakeandMarjie cheers!!

I appreciate both Mike's for their contributions to the band but I've always said that MM plays by knowing what to play next and MP plays by feeling what to play next.

Mangini is a machine, Portnoy is a musician. Mangini knocks drums, Portnoy plays music.

@@WaldemarPaskwal You forgot something, "I think..."! "I think Mangini is a machine, Portnoy is a musician. Mangini knocks drums, Portnoy plays music." Do you know what I think? I think MP is predictive and boring to listen to. He plays the same thing over and over and over.

@@mikemischievous2091 🤣 that was a good funny

Definitely agree with you on all points - especially with the songwriting. Portnoy gives DT a bit of edge due to his influences. Plus I think with him being absent there's been an imbalance in the basic songwriting, as it's been left to Petrucci and Rudess. As much as I love Jordan as a player, his range as a composer is rather limited and seems rather cheesy (which explains the Astonishing, which has a strong blue cheese smell - and not in a good way). I hope that things have clicked back into place on this new album, because I've found most of the last 5 albums to be largely uninspired.

The Rev?

@@TheVermifuge yep 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾

I agree. I love Mangini, but he plays so calmly and makes very difficult things look super easy. I prefer a more energetic delivery.

Honestly, it'll be really interesting to see how MP will play Mangini's parts.

@@bvq330 Well, MP is very musical. This playthrough was pretty different to the original recording. The essence of the original is all there, but the details are different, he was trying out new grooves and fills at several different parts. I imagine that's how he'll approach Mangini's tracks. Even if he can't play a song exactly as MM did, he'll have no trouble figuring out a variant that is functionally the same in terms of how it serves the song, and then he'll mix up the details to suit his style.

@@midastheunwise2423 Agreed.

I have always thought the same, since I heard Panic Attack and Never Enough, I could notice a certain influence from Muse which seemed like an excellent combination

Exactly! Nobody dares to play those tracks 😶

These Walls is not even a top 100 DT song lol