Hey thank you so much for this fair criticism and response. You’ve actually echoed a lot of my sentiments even though I haven’t explicitly said them in a video per se. To echo a few thoughts: No I now wouldn’t work with a deli meat brand or even buy deli meat. No I would NEVER be able to butcher an animal or call it a gorgeous animal in that context anymore. Oh man it’s so cringy to watch that now, I legit feel sick over it. I’m embarrassed and I’m sorry for my past self (legit that was shot almost 10 yrs ago). Re baby E. Freelee cherry picks these images. And admittedly no that wasn’t a perfect meal even at that age (before one) when I was way more concerned with iron for him so I would feed him more animal products. But in the context of his day where maybe he had a plant based lunch and a carb heavy breakfast, it may have made sense that day. Intuitive eating and flexibility in eating applies to babies too! I also was trying to give a new food every meal so we were stepping outside our usual (mainly plant) rotation. today, now that iron needs are lower and he’s a eating superstar, he eats way more beans and lentils for dinner (omg he wants hummus at every meal 🤦🏼‍♀️). Brand partnerships- I totally get that some vegans may be turned off of this. Still I am not vegan (never ever pretended to be so I was never “outted”) so it makes sense to me to work w both vegan and non vegan brands. But FYI, as of right now I have only vegan brands lined up for 2020 🤗 Documentaries / bias- totally. I like giving both sides when I can. Sometimes those sides can’t be as fleshed out as one would like in a short branded piece on my blog or channel but I do try to be unbiased. I have an upcoming review of game changers coming where I do what I like and what I don’t like and even tho i generally really liked the film there are still flaws and omissions. It doesn’t make it a bad film bc that’s kinda expected but it’s worth discussing them, that’s all! Orthorexia is so fucking real it almost took my life. This was not fake news. Bottom line: I’m not perfect. I’m still learning and making small manageable changes to my diet to make a healthier earth and also a healthier me. I am a vegan ally and I try to meet others where they are in their journey without judgement. Thanks to those who are understanding that eating MORE plants is a great place to start and for encouraging me to continue on this journey.

the thing is, abbey is actually educated

Why is Freelee greenscreening herself onto a stock image of an office? lol

Lol Freelee doesn’t understand that her videos are being “surpressed” because all her subscribers are from like 2010 and don’t watch her anymore lol

Abbey is the only dietician I've ever found on KZfaq who is respectful of Vegan diets and demonstrates empathy for people whose opinions differ from her's. Freelee on the other hand...

*_"Freelee, spend some time with people"_* - I felt that on a spiritual level

Freelee saying abbey is too staged while in front of a green screen of a beautiful room. Definitely reads as jealousy. She hasn’t really improved her video quality probably due to lack of views

I have actually blocked Freelees content, because she stresses me out. Promoting a raw, only fruit diet as eco friendly and conscious is a straightforward lie! I am living in northern Europe and we do try to incorporate seasonal fruit and veggies into our diet, meaning the variety of fruit in winter is quite restricted, still delicious, but definitely not enough to live a healthy life. We won't save the planet by importing tons of tropical fruit.

Freelee: she promotes a carcinogen!!! Also Freelee: *bakes in the sun*

...is Freelee unaware that it’s entirely possible to promote a vegan lifestyle without being excessively abrasive?

I think it's telling that Freelee blames KZfaq and Abbey, like it's a conspiracy against her, when people are just growing tired of her hostile content. Not to mention, I feel like the vegan community is changing towards a balanced diet and letting go of the extremes Raw Till 4 disaster. She is her own downfall.

Freely cancled herself when she went after Jenna. Jenna is so wholesome and adorable and we love that 33 year old lady!

People still even watch Freelee?

The comparison in production quality between Abbey Sharp and Freelee is like a normal video versus potato with built-in webcam

The irony of freelee being a radfem and calling another woman fat for being a normal weight even right after having a baby.

I like Abbey Sharp. I think she’s just trying to prevent eating disorders. She’s knows how impressionable young people can be.

Abbey is level headed like you are, Swayze. She's salty now and then, but overall logical. But Freelee is an absolute angry nutjob.

Full disclosure: I'm not a vegan, I'm a vegetarian. That being said, I love Abbey and I love you. I was nervous to click on this video, because I thought you might be unnecessarily harsh toward Abbey, but I think your criticisms were very fair and logical. Thanks for being one of the rare actual rational adults on KZfaq, and disagreeing with others without resorting to name-calling and baseless accusations.

Freelee: ugh this is so fake and staged *records in a fake tacky boho room with a ghetto greenscreen*

Here's the thing. When you have a channel that's more broad (not strictly vegan, not strictly keto etc.) there are bound to be contradictions here and there over time. Not only from one diet to another but as studies change and as Abbey learns more and changes herself. When you're trying to reach everyone, you'll definitely anger everyone too at one point or another BUT there's also a huge benefit in following a channel that tries to understand, support and meet people halfway. ... My two cents

I swear freelee sounds like she's always on the verge of a mental breakdown. I'm actually concerned for her

The only kind of diet a dietician is supposed to be promoting is a healthy one. If a dietician rejected meat and dairy as viable food for consumption I can't imagine they'd know what they're talking about at all. Likewise if they dismissed veganism as impossible to do and still be healthy. Abbey has always read as someone who's pro-eating healthy and doing the best you can given your situation and circumstances, which sounds like a pretty damn good mindset to me.

I think everyone needs to focus more on the ethical reasons for being vegan rather than the health reasons. Because let’s all be honest, any person can definitely be healthy vegan or not.

Didn't Freelee attack Abbey for reviewing one of her videos and file a copyright claim that shut down Abbey's video? ... and yet Freelee has a long history of using and reviewing other KZfaqr's WIAD videos. Hypocrite much? As to Abbey, I really like her videos. She brings a much needed educated opinion to the wild west that is internet health and wellness.

I think people don’t understand that in order for veganism to be a sustainable lifestyle, you have to be tolerant and understand where people are coming from. It’s much easier to have an influence on someone’s lifestyle and food choices if you offer them realistic options and solutions rather than blaming them and asking for a drastic change overnight. This is the rhetoric that Freelee has been pushing for a long time (and let’s not forget her super weird insane videos with Durianrider)...I’ve been a vegan for 6 years and it’s much more rewarding to have an open dialogue with someone and see them change because they want to, I’m not going to shove slaughterhouse videos down their throats just to make a point.

LOL @ Freelee starting the video with complaining about the fact that Abbey's videos are more engaging and she has way less dead subscribers than Freelee (and of course the whole reason behind it is the big youtube algorithm conspiracy, which is definitely pushed by the meat industry amiright)

I don’t mean this rude but Freelee literally puts the LEAST amount of effort into her videos. Not just educational information but literal video quality and content. The bar is wayyyy higher than it was 10 years ago on KZfaq. Her videos look like they were posted when KZfaq started lmao

I still cannot believe Jenna opened her home to freelee years ago and then has the balls to say she doesn’t like them now 😂 she needs to get a life. I’m a vegan that watches abbey sharp, I enjoy to hear different views on things 👍🏻

I’ve come to learn that most people aren’t going to go vegan, not cold turkey at least. Even living with my dad (non veg) and begging him to stop eating animals didn’t work. But gradually he’s swapped countless products for vegan options, and he’s become so much more plant based without even consciously realizing it. I used to be a more extremist vegan, angry and sad all the time, but now I cherish even the small steps people are taking toward less cruel lifestyles.

Also, about Orthorexia, yes there isn't a diagnostic category specifically called Orthorexia. BUT, there is a wider or broader category in the diagnostic manual (the DSM-V) called Avoidant/Restrictive Food Intake Disorder (ARFID) which includes the symptoms that make up orthorexia as well as including other similar clinical problems. There are a number of "umbrella categories" in the DSM. It's similar to how Autism is a broad spectrum category that includes higher end autistic symptoms as well as lower-functioning end autistic symptoms and all in between; so just because, let's say HFA (high functioning autism) isn't a separate category in the DSM doesn't mean that it's fake and doesn't exist. Many people have Asperger's or some other form of HFA which are diagnosed under the umbrella category. Orthorexia is a real thing, and it's NOT just selective or picky eating.

Freelee claiming "my subscriber numbers are bigger than yours" sounds like boys comparing length and girth 🤢

Personally I love Abbey Sharp, I think she is fantastic. She is registered, she is educated in dietary health. Everyone has to understand that not everyone can eat a vegan diet. I had an eating disorder years ago and so it is not wise for me to adopt a vegan lifestyle, I should not restrict anything. Some people can not have vegan diet because they are allergic to nuts, nuts are in many vegan products. No diet should have a one size fits all approach, if you want to change diets consult a registered dietitian and doctor, because vegan diets and vegetarian diets seem like a good idea, but it may only be a good idea for some not all. We also have to think of food deserts. Some climates are not conducive to growing fruits and vegetables, take the Canadian North for example, fresh produce is incredibly expensive there, so indigenous people have resorted to their hunting past. Those communities rely on hunting animals for their food, but indigenous people understand the environment and animals better than we do. Let's stop victimizing people who can not have a vegan diet. Personally I help reduce animal suffering by buying cruelty free make up, and eating some vegan and vegetarian meals during my week. People do not have to go vegan to help the planet. I love Abbey because she fully understands how to read medical studies and interpret the data ( I am also able to understand studies, conduct studies and statistics because I went to school to get a degree in Sociology which is technically a science, good old scientific method) most people do not know how to interpret data in studies so we need individuals like Abbey especially when it comes to dietary health. Abbey understands the data because data is written for academics and people who work in a specific field of work and not ordinary people.This went a little off topic from your video, and as far as vegans go you are one of the most educated, Freelee is well on a completely different planet all together.

Thank you for discussing the eating disorder perspective. I am in recovery from a 30+ year battle with anorexia. It is a very delicate line I walk with wanting to be vegan for totally ethical reasons and not allowing the ED to take over, so I can not be a "strict" vegan. The internet is a very judgmental place but everyone needs to do what is best for them.

"Fake, staged approach," girl, look at your backdrop. It's a video. It's not a vlog. Of course, it's staged!

Yes yes totally agree!

For a natural blonde in Canada, abby''s practically sun-kissed and rosy.

Please don't ever leave KZfaq. It would crush my selfish heart.

my blood boils having someone diminish eating disorders like freelee, i was vegan for years and absolutely cannot do it anymore because of my ED. i do my best and absolutely dont eat meat but if i add stress factors or strict restrictions to my eating i will lose it

my question is why is freelee sitting in front of a green screen of a home study rather than her own home or a blank greenscreen???🤔

Your body changes after carrying a child. Abby has had a child in between the two comparisons. You can get back into shape, but your body does change permanently in some ways. It just does.

The only thing I like about Abbey is her breaking down all the nutrition in the meals and making people look closer at their "faves" diet. You do too but unfourtantly people see vegan in your name and nope. Abbey has dietician so people are more likely to believe her and possibly open their eyes to more than a beautifully plated "meal".

I feel lucky to have been brought up on distinctly unimpressive beige omnivorous food in 70s suburbia - so once I left home and learned to cook veggies properly, there was no going back ! At 59 years old I massively prefer preparing my own simple food from basic ingredients.

Freelee, we live in Canada, girl. We're lucky if we can spend 3 or 4 months out of the year in the sun. We are not anemic.

Freelee promotes a diet that is known to be nutritionally deficient diet. Why does she not think of herself as morally wrong?

Also Freelee supports that fruit couple you made a video on who only feed their baby fruit!!! That is child abuse

I love Abbey's thoughts on intuitive eating and how she breaks down disordered eating talk in youtubers. I pretty much never watch What I Eat In A Day vids because they always used to be so triggering and i didn't know why, unless they're yours...or Abbey's lol9

Man I love Pick up limes. It's not only yummy recipes but so aesthetically pleasing and elegant.

it's funny because during my worst days, struggling with my ED, I'd spend days on some weird ass Pro-Ana sites. There were pages over pages about Freelee and her diet and on how to get as skinny as her. She is Pro-Ana, she might not realize it but hell she is.

Freelee is a self-obsessed mess. Abbey is informative and interesting and knows what she's talking about.

People click on Freelee when she's at her craziest, because crazy entertains some people. Abbey actually has good scientific information, good vegan recipes, and really is a voice of reason even when she's evaluating someone else's channel. Now, Abbey isn't 100% vegan, but she doesn't claim to be vegan either.

I don't think it's bad for you to say how many shirts you've sold. Maybe if you were some big-time corporation, gleefully rolling in money then I'd be like, "ok, settle down." But you're just an individual kinda proud of your accomplishments and the support you're receiving from people. I think that's fine.

It’s really crazy how over the past couple months, I’ve found eating meat now basically completely repulsive. I’m not a perfect vegetarian, and I eat a cheeseburger a few times a year, but now looking at the preparation of any raw meat (and even like cooked chicken) grosses me out. I’ve also started finally cutting out most of the dairy in my life, except for cheese. Thank you for being such an inspiration and being logical as always! (I know you don’t read comments but still wanted to say it!)

I personally dont think your channel is going to die. Switch up the content and keep it consistent. Veganism is growing therefor more people should seek you out. And regardless that i disagree with you pretty often, i still sub, like your vids every time. I can understand your level of thinking and I think you are very reasonable. Dont get burnt out. Give yourself a break, but come back even better. It bothered me a bit, you putting limits on yourself and your channel. The sky is the limit

I especially love how she questions and criticizes Abby’s qualification on giving dietary advice when she has none 😍

Freelee is so weirdly narcissistic lmao she really thought she invented WIAT videos

Fruit is high in sugar and can cause tooth decay in brand new baby teeth, its smart to limit fruit to a serving or 2 a dsy

No one: Like litterally no one: KZfaq: Jimmy Kimmel Live!!!!!

I live abbey's videos about intuitive eating, because it is helping me in my recovery.

Freelee reminds me of westboro Baptist church idk why I just get that correlation in my brain

i've worked at eating disorder organizations, am getting my master's in social work, and have done countless research on eating disorders (in addition to having struggled and recovered from one myself). i have always found it incredibly problematic that freelee has claimed she cured her own eating disorder and other individuals' eating disorders with veganism. aside from the fact that "cured" is not the correct terminology to use, i truly believe she is not recovered from an eating disorder but her ED has just shapeshifted into her incredibly restrictive vegan diet. i appreciate you touching on this problematic part of freelee because people rarely do.

You used to always pop up in my recommended! I recently subscribed but I’m not a vegan - but I find your content interesting and you’re really likeable!

Never forget Freelee once told women in a video about abortions to "look up natural ways to have an abortion" 😲 that speaks volumes on the kind of person she is. (I'm pro choice but doing at home abortions is extremely dangerous). She also thinks it's fine to feed a baby only fruit and that it's great that Ellen Fisher bakes her blonde haired blue eyed kids in the hawaii sun all day.

I have some issues with Abbey Sharp, but amusingly enough they are things Freelee doesn't care about. For example, when she references science in a video, she pretty much never references the paper and often makes strong assertions based on what appears (from her description) to be a correlation study.

I used to hatewatch Freelee on and off when I was like 17. Then I grew up lol.

I like some of Freelee's videos, but her vanity envy and pure jealousy over other women, is really off putting.

I feel bad that Freelee is so angry all the time.

I have never understood why people like Freelee praise fruit so much but seem to forget about vegetables? If I remember correctly (it's been a long time since watching her videos) the only vegetable she used to eat is plain lettuce in the form of her ridiculous lettuce cups lol. Like vegetables are so, so, so crucial for health and wellbeing. I don't get why she is so focused on fruit, and fruit only.

Freelee is still around? Ugh. She needs to go away.

I laugh when people bother with SEO (search engine optimisation). Google recommends results based on a user's previous behaviour. SEO for KZfaq videos just means tagging appropriate metadata, which will not increase SEO. We all have filter bubbles designed to show us links that support our opinions.

Freelee needs to acknowledge she does more harm to her cause then good. I'll watch your videos, Jenna and julien, even a few other vegan centered channels think to myself I can cut out meat more often. Then I watch freelee and I'm back to the mentality veganism is a cult, she undoes so much work by demonizing others...when she picked on Jenna about Graham crackers she called herself out on in the video. So all the good Jenna and especially julien does with their fun, vegan food videos is undone because julien wasn't paying attention and grabbed the wrong box, Jenna acknowledged it to her very large audience but they are terrible vegans. Freelee makes vegans look bad, she's like a woman tearing down another woman for being a working mom then saying she's a feminist. Huh?

Abbey gave me the same reply. That she won't get involved in the drama. Yet it is like, "Hello. You make videos about other KZfaqrs which are sometimes going to intiate drama."

She critiques Abbey for "fake production quality" while she literally has the entire backgraud generated on a green screen.

Why am I even shocked to hear Freelee compare eating meat to rape and pedophelia? That’s a good example as to why youtube would be less likely to promote her too 🤦🏻‍♀️

"She installs doubt in people going vegan" UV was a huge catalyst for me going vegan but go off I guess

I feel sorry for any customer service worker that has the misfortune of dealing with freelee

I started watching Abbey's videos after you mentioned she'd reviewed your WIEAT, I just don't watch the meat ones. I like her attitude to food and her anti-diet stance and, personally, I think her not being vegan but promoting vegan recipes and talking objectively about meat is likely to convince others to reduce their meat consumption far more than someone like Freelee (who I have never watched) yelling about how evil meat eaters are. I disagree with you about the SEO/keto thing. I don't see a problem with tagging a keto friendly meal as keto friendly, it's just a fact and why wouldn't she want more views? And there's always a chance that people who are keto will watch that one and then find her other keto videos which explain the dangers, etc. She doesn't say in the video "yay keto! Keto is great," it just happens to be a keto meal. I think you both make a great point about the farm visit though. If you're going to show "the whole process," you should show the whole process, not only the parts that can be dressed up to be happy and lovely. That's so common on TV and stuff too, at least in the UK. So many chefs and that will do segments or shows following food "from farm to plate" or whatever but the abattoir never gets a look in. p.s. It's neesh! (although this is a Brit vs American thing!)

Freelee is jealous of abbey's active fan base and high production quality. It's kind of awkward. Also keto "can" be dangerous. It's a sometimes thing. It's good for some people with very specific body types, but it makes 0 sense for a diet for a skinny person imo for like "mood" or something. Some people tout keto in the same way they tout essential oils.

Freelee says abbys fake yet she is filming in a fake green screen studio

Freelee reminds me of a 4 year old who won't stop saying "look at me! look at me!" even though the adults are trying to talk.

Freelee's logic: "Any one who isn't 100% an ethical vegan, discussing the downsides of a HCLF/raw till 4 diet and don't support me is a shill for meat and dairy." But also "i can be critical of more successful and popular influencers who aren't vegan, as they don't look like me and are negatively impacting their young female audience into disordered eating habits. I MUST STOP THEM REEEEE!! Having any weight fluctuations is simply because you are starving yourself and not eating enough because you're not a HCLF vegan like me and if you want to consistently skinny then eat like me!" Also Freelee "Don't criticise me cause you hate "the truth" slapping you in the face and you are jealous of my results and hard work. I'm a better vegan that you are because I do for the animals and don't give a fuck about your feelings. But also, i have helped 100's of people lose weight and i don't promote disordered eating cause look at me! I'm not fat, you'e not doing raw till 4 the wrong way! Just harden the fuck up, stop making excuses, cut the bullshit and you will feel 100% as you are 100% in control of everything in your life and that you can control your feelings and emotions and snap out of depression or anxiety." Claims to be a feminist and being part of the sisterhood, yet shames some women for the way they look, if they personally choose to (and not forced to do so) shave, wear makeup or wear high heels. I am aware that wearing high heels, shaving or wearing makeup isn't necessary at all but may perpetuate unrealistic body standards and poor self-esteem issues. Freelee should also be aware that she promotes unrealistic body standards herself by stating women should be skinny like her, have a thigh gap and having no periods is good. She is in no position to tell others how to lose weight, as she has never been overweight/obese in her life and not has the education/training to understand nutrition. BTW the Australian Institute of Fitness has no record of her attending the college and she made it up to boost her credibility.

I enjoyed freelees asmr and off grid-rainforest living phase soooo much. Where she just wasn't talking about others, she seemed in a very good place, so sad to see that she went fully back to her lame attack/callout format.

Have you seen "Vegan Deterioration" videos? The deterioration in question is just women aging and not using fillers anymore for the most part. I would LOVE to see some responses to those.

I love Pick Up Limes. Saadiya oozes calmness and happy vibes.

how to be like freelee: 1) abrasively attack anyone with a different view 2) bake your eperdermis in the sun until you resemble a leather couch (so healthy!) 3) drink litres of fruit enough to give you type 2 diabetes and send your colon into chaos

Honestly I found your channel from watching Abbey's video! Then I though you were cool so I stuck around. Abbey has a legitimate professional degree and it's nice to see a professional opinion that really just seems like she wants to help.

Freeleee and Unnatural Vegan agreeing in something. Wow. Incredible. I love how you are so fair with everybody.

Hey, I think you should check out Aga in America. She's a polish youtuber, but she lives in the US. So, basically, she's a raw vegan fruitarian (she eats mainly fruits). She has two kids, one is like 3,5 yrs old and one is 14 months old. She feeds them only fruits too, they're really skinny (especially the younger one) and he also has symptoms of rickets. This is really sad. She fed her son breast milk from other vegan women at first, but then she stopped and started to feed him some vegan-homemade "formula" instead of real formula milk. She's quite popular in Poland, people talk about her a lot and try to help her children, but well, it's not working. She still thinks fruitarian diet is the best diet on Earth and she believes it's healthy and can cure everything. She even wrote a book full of fake "facts"! Of course, Aga doesn't "believe" in doctors, she admitted that her kids have never seen a doctor and they aren't vaccinated. I honestly feel very sorry for them. There was plenty of videos showing what her kids eat in a day, it's only smoothies, juices and raw fruit, she deleted some of them when people noticed how unhealthy they look. I think this case needs to be more popular, the poor children are in danger

Kids. I used to say "You're driving me up the wall!" and my son would always respond "But you're not on the wall, Mommy." I also have said "You're pissing me off." So a few weeks ago in my FB memories I was reminded of the time he got frustrated with me and said, "You're pissing me up the wall!"

is freelee's kitchen green screen?

Freelee is extremely self-centered and thinks everyone criticizing her does so to profit from her fame. This is anecdotal but I wouldn't even know who Freelee was if it weren't for UV. also, she's coming for ya...

I really appreciate the fact that you give empathy to those with diseases having to avoid veganism. I have personally been challenged by several of my friends that are vegan to try the lifestyle several times and it’s landed me in the hospital for my autoimmune disease… I appreciate a lot of the information you go over in this video. I’ve been tuning into your channel nice the past four years five years. Happy I eventually found this video. You are extremely sensible and honest and I hope you can continue making videos for the long haul. Hope you’re all being safe out there everyone🌹✊🏽🔥✌🏼

I love that you're so realistic and that you know when a reaction is extraordinary in relation to most of human society, despite your own biases. I'm not a vegan but I still love your channel because i think you really offer a great perspective on health, diet, and youtubers in general.

Swayze....I just saw a week ago that Abbey left a comment on one of your insta picture for a collab. And then you make this video. Girl you savage :D

Well Freelee has actually done like three videos on Abby. Freelee has like 3 channels too. I use to be a big Freelee fan but then she just became too much of a toxic vegan. I mean I tried her diet and it didn’t work for me at all. I respect that sometimes being a vegan is a privilege. And I respect that not everyone’s body’s are the same. But at least Abby has been transparent with her sponsors. I enjoy watching Abby on occasion but I can’t watch Freelee anymore.

What mic are you using? Your phone? It's so good! Playing you through surround sound, it's so crisp.

Free-lee is just such an unlikable person. Her whole attitude is arrogant and annyoing. Abbey is actually sweet and nice. Shes not so abrasive if she doesnt like someones diet.

Freelee is a wingnut, that’s why the algorithm doesn’t promote her IMO 😂

My biggest problem with freelee now is how she is attacking her child

WE NEED MORE DESIGNS and colours of the shirt pleaseeeeeeee i wanna wear it to the gym but too many sweat patches with grey

I'm another pro-vegan vegetarian who can't hack 100% vegan because of disordered eating issues and I love Abbey's ability to zoom out and give perspective on how restrictive lots of these KZfaqrs are and the *minimal benefits* and *harms* of various food restrictions. I'm glad she's being promoted because I want other vulnerable young people to find her *when* they find the crazy restrictive KZfaqrs, so they have an escape hatch in the back of their mind. Our shitty diet culture is wayyyy too willing to tell you to do a super restrictive diet to help with any physical or mental health issue.