A free people will never be equal, and a people ( made) equal will never be free. It's really that simple.

The older I get, the more I enjoy a black person berating a white liberal for deciding to speak and think for black people. Tomas Sowell is just incredible.

3 important questions I learned to ask because I listened to Thomas Sowell: Compared to what? At what cost? What hard evidence do you have?

Imagine trying to win a debate when you're up against Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell. Good luck.

"Like most people, I've never seen a pollster."

"Like most people I have never seen a pollster!" - Sowell What an awesome true statement! Sowell is the sage of our age. "You get greater equality of actual results by a system under which people are free to achieve unequal results" - Friedman Friedman is possibly the wisest man to live in the 20th century. He is truly missed.

Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman in the same room....I wish I could have been there. God bless both of them.

Ahhh, the good ol’ days. Remember when our public debates used to sound like that? Remember when left and right robustly debated facts and philosophies? What a joke we’ve become.

Why don't we have shows like this on television anymore?! Screw Keeping Up With the Kardashians, that's GARBAGE! THIS!! This is what we NEED! Education!

"If you dont want to trade freedom for welfare, you aint black" - JB

I miss these times. People discussed ideas and policies rather than just call each other names..

Wow, never seen Sowell lose his patience like that.

2:25 Even in the 80’s entitled white women trying to tell black people how to think and act, etc...Bravo Mr. Sowell for putting her in her place!!!

I thought egalitarianism was just that everyone had equal rights and opportunities, not equal outcome

Thomas Sowell is the most bad ass black man to ever walk the face of this earth ...the most Under rated Scholar as well !

Thomas Sowell talks the most sense of anyone I’ve ever heard. The guy is a fountain of common sense. Every time I listen to him or read anything by him I learn something important.

milton friedman and Thomas Sowell are together ♥ :O

My babies' intellects are increasing just by my playing this in the background of their playtime. I know it is true.

Thomas Sowell should be the hero of the black community, he's a brillant mind!

“A lot of people are born at the bottom of the society.” Girl please. It’s all a mindset. Do u think poor Asians come to America say aw I wish I somebody gave me money while i do nothing? No

I think I actually saw Thomas roll his eyes.....and I love it

Notice how Sowell is an economist, the opponent is in political science. One is a useful occupation.

Sowell nails it in his first sentence: talking at cross purposes. Sowell is talking from quantifiable fact and Piven is talking from rhetoric. The difference is substantive, especially as Sowell knows he is arguing from fact, and Piven does not seem to know that she is only arguing from rhetoric. This is the seminal problem of public discourse in our times. Never mind Social Media whipping up the mid-wits on any or all given sides. You cannot have any agreement when one side always argues in what is de facto bad faith. It has only gotten worse in 40 years.

“Like most people I have never seen a pollster.” Same Thomas, same. Sill relevant today in 2020

Watching these videos makes me depressed at how : We knew all this decades ago. Our society is even less intelligent now than it was then. At least you can say some of the liberals on here couldn't know the net result of how every one of these policies would fail. Now we do know this and people want to keep doubling down on something which not only doesn't work but it has counterproductive results.

Thomas Sowell is a frigg'n genius. He's written several books, some of which I've read and heartily recommend.

I love Thomas Sowell so much. Wish he'd live forever.

It must of been a pleasure in going to school everyday to be able to listen Thomas Sowell lecture about economics. I almost envy those students that had the privilege to hear this brilliant man speak.

"Like most people I have never seen a pollster!" - true then and true today. Love Thomas Sowell.

Great quote from Thomas Sowell later on. "we live in a anointed state where the anointed decide how you should feel." Fits well here when he talks about black people not polling on affirmative action, the anointed polled for affirmative action putting affirmative action in the black peoples mouth.

"You expressed it dammit!!!" Love this moment

Friedman should be required reading for everyone.

I find it funny that she essentially asserted that you first need equality of outcome to achieve equality of opportunity.

Wanna have a bad day? Include in it a debate with Thomas Sowell. He will wipe up the floor with you.

Love Sowell. I have also loved Milton Friedman. Takes me back to better days when facts and logic could be heard.

"Intellectuals were not in that protest movement, black people were in that protest movement" Okay, girl. Tell me how you really feel.

I'm not sure who's more awesome: Thomas Sowell or Milton Friedman? Piven is a microbe amongst intellectual giants.

Milton Friedman was like 'Man I could really use some popcorn right now'

Sowell’s reasoning is always powerful and compelling. I wish he had a more prominent role today - his wisdom is sorely needed.

Sowell: "Like most people, I have never met a Pollster" Epic..

Tom's just too good. The smartest guy in the room every single time.

Never saw Sowell get riled up before! Dammit, woman! Lol

This mans should have been president instead of Obama

Its amazing that even today 'equality of opportunity' is derided and 'equality of outcome' is considered morally superior by the Progressives. I shudder to think what would I have been if I had not known of Sowell and Milton. For sure, I'd have been a progressive as that's the 'factory setting' for most urban IT professional like myself.

Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman top 10 anime collaborations

I could listen to Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell all day.

Intellectual MMA. I love it. Friedman, Sowell - heavyweight champions of Freedom.

Sowell is a BOSS ... I wish everyone could think so logically and truthfully

Never enter a battle of wits with Thomas Sowell unarmed.

The greatest cause of inequality is government programs. Mind blown.

I love hearing Sowell say "damn it."

I love Sowell’s hand swipe at 2:32

"Like most people I have never seen a pollster" "get wealthy with a permit to set up a television station"

egalitarianism sounds a lot like everyone gets a trophy

"They expressed it" Sowell is sitting there like: I'm sitting right in front of you... no I didn't...

I've always considered myself an egalitarian but for equality of opportunity. These folks are arguing for equality of outcome. Less government intervention and more personal freedom is all the equality we need. Love me some Thomas Sowell.

There is no such thing as equality between people. Equality is a mathematical term that is used to describe a relationship between abstract quantities. What people who use the term "equality" really mean to say is, "People are alike.".

Dr. Sowell has achieved greatness 10 times over!

He is one of the most brutal debaters I’ve ever seen. He talks with such vigour and confidence. He provides facts and a rational explanation to every claim put informant of him.

"These 2 have never admitted to being wrong on a single point of their philosophy." Actually, Sowell used to be a Marxist.

Can you imagine Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, and Jordan Peterson together fighting all this nonsense

One of my favorite speakers, Thomas Sowell, he is a fine American and a brilliant man.

Where can I watch the full video? Gosh, this is interesting.

Can we talk about his hair for a second? Modern black women are supposed to be celebrated for flaunting their natrual curls in the face of racist buainess standards. Thomas Sowell rocked the fro during some of the most influential intellectual conversations of our time. 50+years ago!

Man, he demolished that Karen. "Like most people, I've never met a pollster." HA!

Such gratitude towards Mr Sowell and Mr Friedman for fighting the good fight and setting such powerful examples and education so that we may carry that torch for the next generation. I love reading and watching videos of them. Their worlds are just as true, if not more so, today.

off topic: Is Sowell 50 in this video? I can't belive he is, bt Wikipedia says he was born in 1930.

Thomas Sowell is my hero. An honest thinking man.

This man’s message has depth and weight. Thank you

Love it all. I wish we had more debates like these in today's world 🌏.

"You get greater equality of actual results by a system under which people are free to obtain unequal results."

Anyone have the full video of this debate? I'd love to be able to watch it in its entirety.

Thomas Sowell makes me ache for the rest of humanity to have his capacity for intellectual thought and ability to have constructive argument.

The final choice, as taught by history, is very clear: Do you want more wealth for yourself or do you want equalized distribution of poverty?

Friedman is always so clear and concise, so easy to listen to

One of the smartest men I've ever listened to. A real American. God Bless TS

Sowell: "You expressed it, damn it!"

Brilliant! What a duo! The master and his protegé

I wrote Dr. Sowell, about 2 yrs. into Obama's first term, when I had given up, counting communist Obama's actual crimes at 67, and when some of the laws he broke, were laws HE HAD SIGNED into law. I asked him to run for president, that I voted for 'content of character', NOT the color of skin, and we needed a man of integrity, a brave person who was a truth teller. To my shock, I learned his age, and that he had been asked to run, but figured, probably correctly, that he could do more, writing articles and books. You have my total respect, Sir, I just wish those in the 'black community' AND the white liberals, all of whom are brainwashed by the Marxists, would LISTEN to the truths you speak.

Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell in the same panel together.... Im so joyful.

I love Milton and Thomas equally. :)

Damn this dude is smart

These are the ones we should have more on TV. Thomas Sowell and Friedman on one stage. Wow, nice!

Why can't we have programs like this today?

The moment he rolls his eyes and sighs. 😆😂

I saw this in 1980, but time has passed I just don't remember if it was before or after I Graduated from Parris Island.

Just to let you know, I had purchased Basic Economics a few days after your comment. It came in eBay a week or so ago. Been busy with school, but I'll go through it soon. Thanks for your help!

Removing any barrier to advancement not giving any sector a special privileged wow that was so simple and hit the point right on the spot

The best way to achieve equality is to treat everyone equally.

Dr. Sowell is truly brilliant.

He was a great voice for such a time. Would like to see more of him nowadays on TV!

"Freedom to achieve unequally." What a great concept.

2:26 - Two things stand out to me here. First, This is the only time I have ever seen Tom Sowell lose his cool, and that man is the epitome of cool. Second, while Dr. Sowell is trying hard not to detonate, Friedman, the economists economist and Sowell’s sensei, is sitting just as relaxed as can be with a smirk on his face because he can see several minutes into the future and knows that he’s about to mop the floor with Fran Piven’s perm.

Piven gets owned. Period.

So much GREAT discussion in this. Wow.

I have followed Dr. Friedman and Dr. Sowell during my college days. Very impressive men to say the least.. I really had to pay attention to what Dr. Sowell was saying, as it was thought provoking and took a little longer to sink in. Dr. Friedman to me was a little more easier to understanding as he tenderd to use easily understood examples to make his point.

"Like most people I have never seen a pollster" -Thomas Sowell

Equality of outcome creates a society of less qualified experts. Racist race based affirmative action leads to higher drop out rates because the individual was not ready. Individualism matters more than collectivism in opportunity. Because a strong individual population is a strong collective.

I learned so much today from this video thanks again for the tip.

wow its impossible to have a conversation like this these days.