Cold Water Lime Pasteurization For Growing Mushrooms

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Cold Water Lime Pasteurization For Growing Mushrooms

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6 жыл бұрын

In this video, I show you how to use the simple but effective technique of Cold Water Lime Pasteurization to grow mushrooms on straw. The process is pretty simple, basically just soak straw in a water bath of hydrated lime for 12-24 hours, drain, inoculate, colonize and fruit!
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@hansonr22 3 жыл бұрын

Put your straw in onion bags to make it easier to handle while soaking. Great video.

@homesteadinggunsmith1474 2 жыл бұрын

that's a good idea, easier to remove from the soak after!

@metlwrker4285 Жыл бұрын

I got a 15 pack of 5 gallon paint strainers which I have used multiple times. I fill them 3/4 full then tie off with a rubber band drop into a less than half full 20 gallon waste can with my lime mix.(I put 2 grams per litre of hard water)put a cement block on and soak for 16 to 20 hrs

@chrissullivan5137 Жыл бұрын

Do you get much contamination?

@metlwrker4285 Жыл бұрын

@@chrissullivan5137 I've been using cold water lime pasteurization for 4 plus mths now and still have zero contamination!

@chrissullivan5137 Жыл бұрын

@@metlwrker4285 thanks so much for answering. May I have your recipe?

@SimonSozzi7258 5 жыл бұрын

Compared to all the other grower channels, you make it look so easy! I love it!

@FreshCapMushrooms 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I guess it can be as easy or as hard as you want it to be :)

@markgabrielcawaling5124 5 жыл бұрын

I agree with this and its more cheaper than the usual making process :)

@semi5alpha 4 жыл бұрын

@@FreshCapMushrooms question man, you took the logs to a bright place in the end, is it? I thought it has to be always in a dark room..

@sharpy1001 3 жыл бұрын

@@semi5alpha some mushrooms, especially oysters, need a bit of sunlight to trigger fruiting. This is due to their position on the forest floor and using leaf drop (and therefore more sunlight) as an indicator of ideal fruiting time.

@seancostello26 3 жыл бұрын

@@semi5alpha mushrooms don't go through photosynthesis like plants, but they ARE photoreactive! Although you CAN fruit any type of mushroom COMPLETELY in the dark, you will have odd shaped and colored fruiting bodies, as light helps them form in the familiar ways we know and love!

@Cubenxlive 5 жыл бұрын

Man, I can't tell how helpful your videos are, thanks a lot, God bless you, you're my hero Haha Greetings from Brazil!

@kentbyron7608 4 жыл бұрын

Tony, you're an excellent communicator. Gratitude for your helpful videos!

@sublimexs 5 жыл бұрын

Thats it, I bingewatched most of your videos, but this one knocked it out of the ballpark. I'm growing Oysters now.

@activeenglishlecreusot9628 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing information! Love how you show your process and not just the tek involved. Clear and to the point. Great work!!!

@FreshCapMushrooms 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad you like it! Thanks for watching-

@thomask837 4 жыл бұрын

Isn't process and technique the same thing?

@robcroyle 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting method 🤔☺️ definitely gonna have to try this at some point! Keep up the great videos! Video suggestion; how to make a spore print/spore seringe and how to properly store them.

@arthurdyer3679 4 жыл бұрын

I like the fact that the methods your suggesting are in this case very simple and possible for some one even with out lots of equipment to set up or at least possible on a budget

@rosehebrewable Жыл бұрын

For draining our limed straw we took a plastic garbage can and drilled holes in the bottom. We then forked it in there when done to drain and placed a heavy weight on it overnight. it was fine the next morning to load into the growing containers. You can use the garbage can for regular use by just using a bag in it.

@ruthdube7009 2 жыл бұрын

Great instruction and easy method , i am definitely going to do this as i was discouraged by the boiling method before

@formyfbrecovery1094 2 жыл бұрын

Does it works for you?Give me update please enlighten me

@homesteadinggunsmith1474 2 жыл бұрын

I like how you set them up outside but that would be destroyed in a day in Saskatchewan. We rarely get a day without wind, and usually it's more than enough to blow that plastic away or shred it. Our tarp shed is done after just 2 winters.

@ml9633 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Awesome video and well explained Tony :)

@davidwiszniowski9152 4 жыл бұрын

Tony is the man!

@normanbayona4636 5 жыл бұрын

You put a lot of production value into your videos and it shows man. I watched about 4 of these before I figured I should subscribe. Very cool! :)

@Yuri-k123 3 жыл бұрын

Sumptuously!!! You are a magician !!!

@Arcanefungus Жыл бұрын

The hunting tip arrow is a nice touch. Really effective too, id think

@bobbyx2017 5 жыл бұрын

He is a really cool dude and keep everything simple. Thank you!

@leonabc298 Жыл бұрын

I’m new so silly question, but did you add extra or larger holes for the fruiting to happen through? Or did those clusters grow through the small holes that were punched through before colonization?

@DaSauceDatsBoss Жыл бұрын

In the bucket videos I’ve seen, massive clusters will grow out of holes that are only a quarter inch big So presumably it’s the same puncture size with the bag

@zing913945 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic ideas ! That will be much easier than steam ! Thank You

@jaysonramsay3896 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Tony, thanks for making this video. & sharing the technique for cold pasteurization. Can’t wait to try it on a small scale. I have a couple quarts of pink oyster grain spawn to fruit using this method.

@FreshCapMushrooms 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear! Happy growing (pinks are great!)

@naturesADHD Жыл бұрын

The man, the legend, tony..

@husman4795 5 жыл бұрын

Great job. Gearing up for another grow season here in Sydney and your videos are really helpful!

@leonardmcglynn4493 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Tony. Am going to use this method. This simple procedure is very much what I want to stick with for cultivating mushrooms!

@merryjuan2097 2 жыл бұрын

Anybody know whether it would make any difference if the grow/fruiting bag were black in color? Apart from not being able to see contamination/progress that is.

@mirzarashidbaig 5 жыл бұрын

Great. I was looking out for videos with Lime pasteurisation and I got this. Now I am clear to use dehydrated lime.

@sabitaadhikari5412 5 жыл бұрын

is this really healthy to eat?

@southafricanrhino 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Tony! Your videos are fantastic. I've watched how you grow mushrooms on mushroom beds outside without pasteurising the straws. Do you recommend pasteurising the straws before inoculating them to grow mushrooms outside? Would that make it less hard for other things outside to grow in the mushroom bed or will pasteurising makes no difference when growing outside?

@waltergodsoe5526 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, could hydrated lime be added to fuel pellets & bran to skip using the pc?

@thack2502 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as usual, BUT please tell us more about your mini makeshift greenhouse you had them in !!!!! What RH% you aiming for ? Are the sides open for more airflow.

@AlphaFashion24 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tony, have you ever tried wood ash pasteurization for straw? Please make a video on that too

@monkeyballable 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! So with the measurements it's metric and imperial but would equate to 300g lime to 208 litres? (15g to 10.4 L) assuming US gallon not UK

@grantpickens2704 4 жыл бұрын

I love your hole poker, I bet does wonders on deers😉

@andrebrodmerkel2327 Жыл бұрын

So good! Cant wait to try. Thx is 👍

@marcelatalmazan4271 4 жыл бұрын

I freaking love watching your videos

@k_creations...218 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice sir ,very helpful video for new mushroom growers . Thanks

@christophersmith8014 5 жыл бұрын

If it's just a matter of driving the pH up then ashes should work just as well. If you have access to free fresh wood chips or shavings from a mill you can burn a batch for the ash needed to sterilize the rest. Magnesium shouldn't be an issue there since it would otherwise be present in the wood as well, though I guess it could concentrate it some. Seems like it's worth an experiment. I was considering burning shavings to heat water to sterilize the batch, but if I can skip heating the water then that's all the better.

@spikes1092 4 жыл бұрын

This is the only channel where the guy still has a good head on his shoulders

@theGreaterAwareness 5 жыл бұрын

You should do a test with crude oil. Supposedly Crude Oil is a super food for Oyster Mushrooms as Oyster Mushrooms can break down petroleum products such as plastic and convert it into usable waste / compost.

@john-smith. 5 жыл бұрын

wouldnt eat

@taileywhakkur 2 жыл бұрын

Could you use this method with smaller bags for an indoor grow to make a sort of DIY grow your own box? Really trying to avoid buying a pressure cooker to sterilize fruiting blocks.

@Lrobb88 3 жыл бұрын

Tony, thanks for the clear video and instructions. One question: how do you recommend disposing of the lime bath? Is it high enough pH that it needs to be neutralized or disposed of carefully?

@Destroyer9747 3 жыл бұрын

Vinegar, lemon juice, or other acids will neutralize the base for disposal. Although, you can probably reuse it if you strain the solution out.

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@vivekanandhamushroomfarm4327 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful video,,, ❤

@davempitman 4 жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on on that outdoor fruiting chamber? I've been toying around with a similar design, and I like what you came up with. Can you enclose that wooden frame in plastic sheeting?

@Redneck_Renaissance 6 жыл бұрын

Great video..the start to finish videos are always the best...this seems way easier than boiling.....I'm going to buy a new barrel today. I have had success will small scale hydrogen peroxide pasteurization before but I think I'm really going to like the lime method.

@FreshCapMushrooms 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thanks so much for the comment. Yes, this method really is fantastic. You can re-use the lime water as well (add more straw for another soak), or even measure it out so you have just enough water to pasteurize the lime, with almost none left over. I can't believe how good it works!

@birjutaparia 5 жыл бұрын

How much hydrogen peroxide is to be used per kg of dry straw?

@r1b4z01d 3 жыл бұрын

Using a broadhead is genius 👌 👏 🙌

@hampneel4589 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoy watching your videos . Keep up the good work .

@DaSauceDatsBoss Жыл бұрын

What do you do with all the hydrated lime water after? Idk if some of it can be used for gardens? If so, probably only so much. Then what with the rest? Doing this in barrels each week… need info on what to do with this high ph water

@amintaleghani2110 4 жыл бұрын

did you check the PH level of the substrate after draining it? if yes, what was the PH? Thanks

@azz_6269 Жыл бұрын

nice video man, hey what are the parameters of magnesium content being low or high? As in what number would be considered high please?

@recklessroges 4 жыл бұрын

If you catch the water draining from the straw you can re-use it. This will reduce how much lime you need to add to the next batch. (Or you can just submerge the straw for a month and let the anaerobic bacteria do the job - though that requires 31 barrels and lots of water to start with, you can recycle most of it.)

@CH3FFI3 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering about this. Is there a recommended amount of time you can reuse the same water before it requires refreshing?

@rafiullahpanahi5878 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for such as nice video all the best

@vivekanandhamushroomfarm4327 2 жыл бұрын

Could we use the same lime method for casing soil sterilization ?

@veronicaclaase9616 4 жыл бұрын

Great videos, I agree 100%. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! From South Africa :o)

@jacksonh8668 3 жыл бұрын

How do you dispose of your water after this process?

@martinwhitehurst9893 2 жыл бұрын

Hey so when you go to fruit and you put the bags in that trellis you built did you enclose it on all sides or just the back side? And what temp was it when you did this please. Thank you

@nolanfoster6782 3 жыл бұрын

What do you do with the lime water when done?

@williamadams9318 6 жыл бұрын

Wow! I'm blown away by the cost savings, labor savings, etc. Now I'm confused about which way to go. Is this the only way your growing now? No more sterilization method? I'm all for this.

@john-smith. 6 жыл бұрын

William Adams So far its been only used successfully with certain strains...other methods still need to be used for other strains.

@williamadams9318 6 жыл бұрын

@@john-smith. Thank you for your reply. It is important to me that I plan my operation properly. I'm about to hit ss age, this will be my retirement! I'm thankful for every morsel of information I can glean!

@tonybennett5377 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tony.

@answerswithavideo4864 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to rinse the straw after? The high ph doesn't affect the mycelium?

@uberuberexperience5578 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony, big fan of your show. I bought everything I need to grow mushrooms at home but I cant find the grow bag. Do you have any recommendation as to where to get the bags? and what is the size of the bag you are using? thank you so much for the inspiration to grow mushrooms at home.

@yaeyaebrody9734 5 жыл бұрын

Tony your the man! ✊🏼 Love your vids

@sarahbiate4965 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony Nice watching your channel😍 God bless♥️

@markboggess9535 Жыл бұрын

You are awesome dude!

@prameelavakita1984 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother It helps me altot and I can understand very easily Jai Hind 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

@ShotgunLlama 3 жыл бұрын

Does the same process work for wood chips or other pasteurized substrates?

@shreyps 5 жыл бұрын

very informative and helpful. thanks for the video.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 3 ай бұрын

I can’t help wondering why people wouldn’t just always do this instead of trying to pasteurize in hot water? Why go through the extra steps if they’re not necessary? Thanks Tony.

@Ted...youtubee 3 жыл бұрын

What do you do with the lime water afterwards?

@BigPeeve 3 жыл бұрын

how high/low can the magnesium contents of the lime be ? is 2% ok or is that too high ?

@andrealambertucci9310 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony first of all thank you so much for all the information shared. You are helping us a lot here in south Brazil. Just one question... Is it possible to reuse that water after adding the hidratated lime? We d love to save water as much as possivel. What do you think? Hugs! Andrea

@MrRomka404 2 жыл бұрын

I know I'm a year late but, if the ph of the water stays relatively high then it will continue to kill bacteria and that's the whole point of the alkaline water.

@christianpaullumayaga1688 Жыл бұрын

question: how many harvest before you change the straws

@dialecticalmonist3405 5 жыл бұрын

Wait, so you don't have to have a special greenhouse with high humidity for them to fruit?

@jaimedelgado7529 3 жыл бұрын

it's wrapped in plastic bro. humidity is at 100% in there.

@bretturner3413 4 жыл бұрын

Nice,thanks for make this video.

@scampos9881 5 жыл бұрын

Love your videos and your positivity! I did this method and have oysters that have been in a dark cool room for about 3 weeks but have not started pinning yet. Should I bring them outside or just wait to see what happens?

@michellemenzies2187 4 жыл бұрын

S Campos they need light to pin

@Sholland0317 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@JR-bu8is Жыл бұрын

What percentage magnesium would you consider "low"? The hydra-lime I have indicates a dry weight analysis of 20.4% magnesium.

@siatentacion7114 Жыл бұрын

Some says it has to be less than 5%

@waltergodsoe5526 3 жыл бұрын

By the way you can pick up Calcium Hydroxide at any market that has a Mexican Foods section.

@WW-ob7ek 3 жыл бұрын

4:07 soooo satisfying

@hashkat 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Quick question: How do you dispose of the lime water after its used?

@kevinhoulin9855 4 жыл бұрын

Read in the net: "a way you dispose of it is to add kitty liter to the buket of lime water until it is all absorbed. Then throw the soaked kitty liter in a tight heavy duty trash bag and throw it in the trash".

@hashkat 4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinhoulin9855 that would be a heck of a lot of kitty litter for a 55 gallon drum

@kevinhoulin9855 4 жыл бұрын

@@hashkat I assume...thought the same

@cobrandrewg9995 4 жыл бұрын

A better question would be- can we reuse the same water since it's already high in ph That way we can save on hydrated lime powder and have no disposal issues Just an idea Not sure if it will work

@dennislanigan1082 3 жыл бұрын

Neutralize with baking soda. Once neutral it's safe to pour on a lawn.

@dccrens 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Tony! Where do you get the poly tubes to make the logs?

@trentonyoung9972 Жыл бұрын

Can u use this on wild bird seed

@nicholaslong8570 4 жыл бұрын

Just want to say "Your videos are great". I really want to try this cold water pasteurization method and am having trouble finding the proper lime. I seen the image of the analysis just can't find a retailer in my area that carries a similar product. Would you mind telling me the brand you use?

@miamimosaics 4 жыл бұрын

www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1SVJYE1F3P64T/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza Not identical to what is shown here, but might serve.

@nicholaslong8570 4 жыл бұрын

@@miamimosaics I actually found food grade hydrated lime, also know as Mississippi Lime or Vitacal

@rendhiae2198 4 ай бұрын

how many times it can be harvested? And how long can the straw last before being replaced with new straw if we growing oyster mushroom??

@Higgiesmallz 4 жыл бұрын

How do you go about deposing of the water after? Does the ph drop after having the straw in the solution for time period? I can’t imagine draining high alkaline liquid is good? Is there a way to bring the ph back towards neutral?

@akanmudamilare7235 5 жыл бұрын

Interesting! Does it work for sawdust too? other substrates in general?

@LiviaRocchi 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, It does :)

@robertimmanuel577 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@ngreat4390 4 жыл бұрын

Did you go to Ojota to look for lime?😆 I'm so happy to learn this method! Off to ojota I go...

@unintentionallydramatic Жыл бұрын

Is this a cost thing or are there types of shrooms you NEED to grow on straw?

@Pavel_Gribovod 4 жыл бұрын

Круто. Лайк. What about mushroom mosquito outdoors?

@clarkkent6819 4 жыл бұрын

We dont have that here in usa?

@stevenswithav 4 жыл бұрын

What happens to all the plastic (poly-tubing) bags you use during growing?

@dookiebutter4947 4 жыл бұрын

Glad I saw this.

@Lrobb88 2 жыл бұрын

Tony -- whats your recommendation on triggering a second flush in these logs? Do you just wait or do any dunking, etc?

@maxfeasey2151 3 жыл бұрын

A heartfelt thank you for sharing this info with us ! Tony, do you know if this method can be done using wood ash to create a high PH lye solution ?

@tingtingolguin9619 Ай бұрын

I can only find type S hydrated lime at my local hardware store. Is there a difference using type N (normal) and type S (special) hydrated lime? Can you share which type of hydrated lime you use? Thank you!

@ShawnTheRazor Жыл бұрын

So is hydrated lime safe to use with mushrooms that you will eat?

@kentrockwoodtyler8798 5 жыл бұрын

What do you do with the rest of the water in the barrels? Does it hurt the grass? Why don't mushrooms come out all the holes you make for ventilation? Nice video.

@jaylair6366 5 жыл бұрын

Great instruction, thank you! I'm gearing up to try this method. I wonder what mil thickness of poly tubing you use?

@jesseknox9322 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video! I really want to try the hydrated lime with sawdust blocks. I usually put all of my sawdust, soybean pellets, and water in a black tub and hand mix it you would think i could sprinkle the hydrated lime on top and mix it together? Thanks for the great videos Tony keep up doing the great work!

@FreshCapMushrooms 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jesse! Not sure how well that would work, I know people have had success with the "lime shower" method, so you don't need to soak in a large Barrell, you use just the amount you need. Always good to experiment though! Also, thanks for all your input in the mushroom growing group, your killin' it!!

@jesseknox9322 6 жыл бұрын

@@FreshCapMushrooms i think eric myers does the lime batch with his sawdust blocks but I'll have too double check. Thank you Tony! Means alot!

@timmeyer568 5 жыл бұрын

For what its worth, I have been fruiting brown and blue oyesters on just wood pellets and lime for a couple of years now. Super easy technique.

@subscribeshare9626 5 жыл бұрын

@@timmeyer568 after that,it need to pasterile?

@saranyasathiyanandam5243 4 жыл бұрын

@@timmeyer568 what is the ratio of wood pallets, lime and water and can you please share the exact procedure you use

@kennethpark8397 Жыл бұрын

Hey! Great video! Weird question: what is the name/description of those plastic bags you're using to hold your straw post-pasteurization? I imagine it's one long tube of plastic bags that you can resize for your purposes. However, I'm not sure what terms to search for to find that! Thank you again!

@robeplayer370 Жыл бұрын

Doubt you'll get a reply directly from them but its poly tubing, there are several different sizes available online from small to huge so I'd recommend just getting whatever one best fits with how much you plan on using.

@kennethpark8397 Жыл бұрын

@@robeplayer370 thank you!

@samputsaringkwento 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Tony. Is it also possible to use cold water lime pasteurization on sawdust substrate or it's best to placed them in pp bags & sterilized them using a steamer? Many thanks from a newbie mushroom grower here in the Philippines.

@FreshCapMushrooms 5 жыл бұрын

Sure, this could definitely work, just don't add any extra nutrition (like bran ect)

@tigerlilly3727 5 жыл бұрын

any problems with the lime corroding the barrel faster than hot water?

@ronsmith1364 5 жыл бұрын

What do you do with 50 gallons of alkaline water? How many straw batches can you sterilize with one 'drum' of water? The waste stream produced hasn't been addressed in this one. If you have any other uses for the 'spent' water really like to hear it.