I thoroughly enjoyed this interview... lovely to see Debbie's gifts! Her description of processing sea coal put me in mind of the process of making Sumi ink: Before Beginning (part 1) In the given season of winter In the given hour of dawn On a perfect day Of balance in the air, The Sumi Master rises and in his simple clothes, Trudges off to the forest at Nara. His thought is all of a perfect Dark pine bough under melting snow. When he finds the one bearing light, He bows. By ancient process he brings it down And for days and days He pulls it through the burning, The salvage, the blending, Drawing it under muscle, Kneading by hand and foot Until perfection begins to show And he is black as the ink himself. Pressed and dried, polished by shell, Wrapped and hung in straw, Cured by a patience of months or years - So in the given way and on A perfect day upon an imperfect stone, The poet grinds these pine grains In slow upright circles over and over Blessing with pure water so they slide down The fine hairs of his brush, Bleed into the rice of paper And say one small thing That needed to be spoken. (part 2) I am like that dark mass of Sumi Under the Master’s hand Kneaded and pressed until Unprofitable air is worked out, ‘Til the grain of me becomes fine And bent toward a perfection I have not known. Hours spent under the kneading End in that perfect texture - Soft, like the lobe of a baby’s ear Or a heart without hardness. In the perfect air I am Shaped to His mold, His print on my countenance, Drying in the ashes is not What I had thought. Burnished by shell in a gentle hand Even straw applied to cloak and shield me Has its prickles. Days continue on Until cured years have passed. The Poet works ink on the stone With Living Water So that what He has to say Flows off the perfect end of His brush And I lie down all across The patient paper To become what He said. (c)

Fantastic interview so inspiring and energetic! Thank you cant wait for next years workshop!!!! :) What a wonderful connection between sound and land.

Absolutely love these Friday feature artists! Thank you

Loved this! Debbie is such a dynamic woman! 😍 I notice visuals and I notice sounds but as an artist I never thought of painting sounds. I did that exercise with Debbie not with paper and pencil but by closing my eyes and with my hand, conducting the shapes of the sounds. THANK YOU Ang! I will definitely do this exercise many more times! 😁

Thank you both so much for the inspiration and energy that you generate! I'm ready to go outside and dig, scratch, and soak things!

I love when a person notices things and interacts with the environment, creating beauty and new/old things that wouldn't have existed without their care and attention and creativity. Debbie has some lovely pieces that speak of the Earth, of the seasons and of the elements. Her story of the salt crystal formation reminds me of a few months ago, when we parked at the mouth of the river here, where it meets the ocean, during a storm, and let the waves splash all over the car, it was wonderful---- until! we had to wash it all off the next day...the salt had formed a thick crust that was like an ice storm, thick and dimpled and sparkly. Beautiful but an absolute nightmare to get off the car! Fortunately, only on the windows for the most part, not the under carriage. Wonderful discussion, thank you both.

Amazing interview Debbie, Thank you Fibre Arts Take Two. I listened at the Art Group in November in Hampshire as well Debbie. Enjoyed your inspiration very Much and look forward to your future work .

Thank you both for such an inspiring talk! I’ve enjoyed it so much!

Such a wonderful conversation!

Amazing wonderful artist. Can I have the link for Josephine D you mentioned?

What is Ang’s last name, website, and Instagram?