Frozen Earth Rod Stops EV Charger Installation UK ❄️

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The Seren EV Charger, designed for domestic use, harnesses a light source for dimly lit locations so the charger can be easily located. With the installer's convenience at heart, this charger boasts some impressive features aimed at saving you time and headaches.
The charger also offers a variety of colour options and allows customers to customise the light source to their preference.
In this video, Rick and Gordon install the charger at a customer's house. The looming question remains - will they finish the job before the impending snow arrives?
Learn more about the Seren Charger 👉 hub.efixx.co.uk/seren-charger
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Time Stamps ⏱
00:00 Our first EV Charger install of 2024
00:25 What's in the box?
01:16 How we kept the charger flat on the wall
01:38 Captive screws, and a tip to keep them captive
01:53 A new tool has turned up
02:09 This charger is great for the installer
02:47 The snow has arrived which brought along a problem
03:24 How we tackled the problem
04:01 Converting the junction box and how we tackled the data cable
04:52 Gordons' fave feature - a customisable light source
05:40 Customisable charger covers
06:03 Do you prefer tethered or untethered?
06:40 Commissioning the charger is so easy
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Пікірлер: 67

@MrBinabanana Ай бұрын

Normally, electricians doing data work is like kitchen fitters doing electrics, but that's some nice termination there 🙂 Beautiful job as always, chaps.

@JamesKing-ev1wc Ай бұрын

A rhesus monkey could do data terminations.

@TheNewFaceOfHSP Ай бұрын

I'm CTO at a medium sized company and discovered 1 wrongly spliced Cat6 run and 1 loose walljack, after two electricians, who I paid £3000 to run a few hundred meters of cable. I redid them myself instead of calling them back. What amazes me is that they said they tested the cables as good, but line 3 was broken in the spliced cable, and the walljack had a short to ground......... Never those guys again.

@imaginitivity7853 Ай бұрын

In the house I just bought there's some sockets that have been done by the plasterer. L and N inverted and Earth loose!

@Babbar_7615 23 күн бұрын

To be honest, your taught data in the electrical installation course theory and practical

@sergiofernandez3725 Ай бұрын

Those Female to Female RJ45 couplers will give you a dodgey connection sooner rather than latter. Replace them with Gel Crimps the type BT engineer use. I speak from experience as I had to swap out a few couplers in Scotland that were put in by the furniture makers. Salutations from Costa Del Watford.

@alvina69 Ай бұрын

Built-in PEN fault protection is a must for any serious EV manufacturer.

@DanJames-bx3dn Ай бұрын

Absolutely - this product has built-in PEN fault protection 🙌 FYI

@lpmuzza3274 Ай бұрын

Hes on some money aint he, with that coat 😂

@efixx Ай бұрын

Purchased it about 8 years ago when I was working in Finland 🇫🇮 🥶

@lpmuzza3274 Ай бұрын

@@efixx it's nice

@DanJames-bx3dn Ай бұрын

Great looking product with the different coloured faceplates and the customisable light bar set it apart - I have one installed at my house, certainly looks the part!

@retrozmachine1189 Ай бұрын

@eFixx, thought about surge protection on the twisted pairs for the ethernet? The transformers in the ethernet interfaces gives good isolation already but I've still seen persistent lightning induced problems on site to site wireless that were only addressed when installation of surge protection was finally allowed. It's not much of an expense compared to replacing a dead switch and perhaps equipment further on. One instance I know about happened to someone I know. A full rack of a digital A/V distribution system at his luxury home was written off by lightning for the lack of surge protection on a run to a large pergola in the gardens. It wasn't done by me otherwise it would have had it or more likely a run of fibre to the pergola. The damage bill came out at $AUD 40k-ish.

@monteclark1115 Ай бұрын

Nice job!

@gino2465 Ай бұрын

Like this charger.

@deanrichmond1 Ай бұрын

Great peace of kit,definitely get yourself one

@robanstee1739 Ай бұрын

Lovely looking charger. I work for Aurora so I might be a biased 😂

@billyhammertime Ай бұрын

Nice slim charger, although I do feel as though it should be under some sort of cover... A few years of weather Isn't gong to be kind to that thing.

@maygarland6123 Ай бұрын

I did an install in November and the brass bolt in the earth rod clamps shattered in the cold, less than 3 weeks after the initial instal. very awkward

@jamiebourne8047 Ай бұрын

I've stopped fitting the small rods with small style clamps. EVERY one I've ever inspected (including ones I've fitted) have always snapped off. I'll now only fit the larger style ones, never seen one of those snap 👍

@JohnSmith-jk8mt Ай бұрын

You need a proper 16mm or 20mm rod with a G clamp the small stuff is crap

@ashleybignell2366 Ай бұрын

I must be missing something because i still cant get my head around the band 1 & band 2 cables in the same containment box. It seems for EV this has become acceptable.

@GretatheEvilGremlin 19 күн бұрын

Yep, its a load of rubbish! Where EV, smart meters and air source nonsense is concerned, they make their own rules to suit themselves. Industry's becoming a joke.

@ryanm9042 Ай бұрын

Nice looking charger guys 👍 Can the same data cable (1nr) be used for CT monitoring and hardwired internet or would an additional cable be needed? Assume Cleveland cables would be keen to know also☝️

@gilbey666 Ай бұрын

I think you can as from memory pins 1 2 3 6, Orange and Green pair in B wiring, are the data ones, the other two pairs could be used for anything else.

@Bigbobstar Ай бұрын

Loving your videos and your work. I see for the video the RJ45s you are using are in not shielded. I would worry the Cat cable would get unwanted noise/voltage from the power cables in the EV Ultra Cable. Is this not an issue?

@efixx Ай бұрын

The twisted pair is enough to prevent interference. Remember it’s an EV charger at the end of the wire not a data centre.

@mfx1 Ай бұрын

Chargers shouldn't need apps and internet connections, if you have an ISP problem does that stop you charging the car?

@darrencasey7867 Ай бұрын

No it doesn't. You can still charge the car 🙂

@efixx Ай бұрын

The internet connection is law ( yes law! ) under the Smart Charge Point Regulations

@MartinE63 Ай бұрын

5:36 indication that the RCD has tripped, what powers the light?

@efixx Ай бұрын

DC leakage is built in. Obvs no light when the external AC RCD trips.

@edc1569 Ай бұрын

Is the indication that the RCD has tripped the light bar being off?

@efixx Ай бұрын

The internal DC element

@MarcusNailor Ай бұрын

No CT monitoring for this charger? 👀 How does it know if the house is overloaded? 😅

@ashleybignell2366 Ай бұрын

That why you calculate maximum demand before you start. Not all installs require Load management.

@stranglx Ай бұрын

That looks a lot like a single pole RCBO from lewden there. Naughty naughty.

@efixx Ай бұрын

They are the minature double versions

@stranglx Ай бұрын

@@efixx Music to my ears! I believe Lewden call them “Single pole plus switched neutral” as the over current protection is obviously only protecting the live side. But I believe this satisfies the requirements of part 7 as it does indeed disconnect ALL live conductors. Sadly I see many non compliant EV installations usually because either the RCD is protecting multiple circuits or because the incorrect type of RCD has been selected.

@taftancastingchannel Ай бұрын

Hello 🤗

@tonywatson1412 Ай бұрын

Agree with @magarlands6123..its hit and miss with brass bolts....Theres a very fine line between too tight and breaking and not tight enough.../ poor contact...Thomas Nagy used s.steel bolts...P S. careful where you put the crimped lug.

@Mike_5 Ай бұрын

Why don't EV Charger manufacturers include as standard suitable sized knockouts for SWA cable supplying the load?

@gadgetman36 Ай бұрын

Earth discs are far more effective, easier to install, and can be installed in locations where you can't install an earth rod. They cost a bit more.

@efixx Ай бұрын

Challenge in this install as the area is tarmaced

@JohnSmith-jk8mt Ай бұрын

They’re not more effective at all

@andysims4906 Ай бұрын

Not a very long life span if you got to replace the old one

@efixx Ай бұрын

Tesla ones need the Tesla app - before the days of OCCP

@mathiasjacobsen3355 Ай бұрын

I am not familiar with Uk electric and Ev chargers.. Why is there such a low value requirement for earth impedance concerning Ev chargers? Is it a requirement from the manufacturer? With a T.T earth system the max impedance can be 50 V/0.03 A (1667 Ohms). 50 V is the max acceptable safe voltage, while 30 mA is the Rcd max fault current, before it trips.

@urs915 Ай бұрын

Why not cat5e or 6? 5 is a very old standard and not good for distance like this, not good for outside either.

@damiendye6623 Ай бұрын

Cat 5 implies cat5e because you can't get the old cat 5 anymore 😂

@retrozmachine1189 Ай бұрын

It's a 'charger', 10M would be overkill for the piddly amount of data flowing even it's full blown web interface if it has one. If it's purely for command and statistics it could be done with a 9600 serial link. 100m distance officially too. It's hard to imagine cat5e (or cat5 for that matter) not being up to the job.

@Grizzly01-vr4pn Ай бұрын

They're not streaming 4K video to the damn thing, FFS.

@urs915 29 күн бұрын

@@Grizzly01-vr4pn still, if your installing any new equipment, its good to future proof. these standards are also more reliable

@urs915 29 күн бұрын

@@retrozmachine1189 fair point, some things just work

@jonathanrose456 Ай бұрын

Salt water helps with earth rods

@thomasdalton1508 Ай бұрын

How long does it help for, though? Won't it give an artificially low reading that will go back up again once the salt washes away?

@deang5622 Ай бұрын

@@thomasdalton1508Doesn't matter how long it lasts: it is not an approved method for lowering the impedance.

@thomasdalton1508 Ай бұрын

@@deang5622 Presumably it isn't approved because of precisely the problem I mentioned.

@deang5622 Ай бұрын

@@thomasdalton1508 Yes, you could be right about that!!

@thattoolguy9432 Ай бұрын

Gordon's finally got rid of that dodgy Tesla then

@efixx Ай бұрын

Yes but smart meter still a problem 😉

@edc1569 Ай бұрын

Elon free :)

@calmeilles Ай бұрын

You blithely said download the app and set up an account… I don't mind doing that for added features that I can choose to use or not. But if it's required for basic functionality then that's a No Sale.

@efixx Ай бұрын

It’s part of the Smart Charging Regulations in the UK - complain to the government

@calmeilles Ай бұрын

@@efixx What on earth were they thinking of?

@calmeilles 21 күн бұрын

@@efixx "Is your smart charger about to become dumb? Don’t get caught out, says myenergi" In this case getting stiffed for connectivity charges, But there are other ways you can be held hostage when dependent on remote services or lose your investment entirely when the service goes dark. Regulations then are setting customers up to be stiffed. (The quote is from the myenergi blog, not putting a link as TY eats them.)