The bonus effects for having Corrin/Ike next to Camilla/Soren is a wider AOE for their engage attacks, but for Hector and Lyn he gets an unconditional Vantage with Storm’s Eye+. Another reason why Lyn is one of the best rings lol

A couple things: 1- Soren's Skill is mistranslated in the game so it actually doubles Crit Rate and not Crit Damage, which is honestly better IMO. 2- Camilla does share a lot of the same Dragon Veins as Corrin, but they have different area coverages so they do function a bit differently. 3- I totally forgot to cover some of the Engage+ combos. These work when next to the right unit, so Soren's upgrades when he's next to someone using Ike, Camilla's upgrades when she's next to Corrin and Hector's upgrades when he's next to Lyn.

One thing about Piercing Glare is that it allows you to artificially lower your HP without being exposed to combat, helping to activate relevant skills such as Vantage++, Wrath or Resolve or some of the personal skills with 2 pops of it

As a note, for the 5 of Camilla's dragon veins with the same effect as corrin, they are a different formation so it's different, but not exactly crazy.

Soren’s decoy ability is so slept on it’s by far the best panic button ability in the game even on maddening

The biggest advantage I see for camilla is I don’t have to choose between making alear a Swiss-army knife of effects or making thieves unhittable using the Corrin ring, now I would probably give alear Camilla and use Corrin on a thief

From what I've heard, Soren's Flare is mistranslated. For Dragon's effect specifically, it doubles his Crit RATE not his crit damage.

Soren is great for leveling up characters that are too weak to do anything yet, bunch up your units and have the weak unit engage and use his stave, gives about 1.5-2 levels each use.

btw the roy and ike engraves are actually pretty decent if you know how to use them. I personally use them on the brave lance of my "might as well have zero speed anyway" louis, and on my dire thunder citrinne.

thank you so much for all your help its given me a lot of insight on what I want to progress on! Also I just enjoy how youve set up your videos, thank you so much!!

Thank you for getting this out so fast

All your Engage content has been excellent these last several weeks. Great work!

I put soren with Anna and she can do a ton of damage. Plus it's nice to have a real long range spell

Piercing glare is the rampart skill from Tactics ogre which is very good for tanks. They need to give more tanks a similar skill. It’s quite good

loving the content my guy! thanks for the tips

When making soren did they just forget about the surge tomes Awesome analysis and quick! I have ready been doing nosferatu tanking on Anna with Miciaha with lots of success. Sorens addition is gonna make that pretty ridiculous haha.

On Normal/Hard, Soren's Decoy ability seems like it would be nice for forcing enemies to attack your dodge tank units. It might also be useful on Maddening, as the AI will generally avoid dodge tanks. I don't know if this will work on that mode, though.

the DLC is all FEH CLY winners which is funny with robin and soren just winning

Camilla's "duplicates" aren't actually duplicates. They are differently shaped, either making a diamond around the user or a 3x3 square in front of the user. Also ALL negative grounds form under the user, proccing groundswell. She has some good offensive terrain utility.

Also the Soren flare is mistranslated for Dragons, it's double critical rate not damage.

Commenting at the start of the vid so we'll see what is said, but so far I have been having a hell of a time finding Camilla to be useful, as much as I love her.

I find it so funny that Soren might enable mage tanks, considering I used him as one in radiant dawn lol

19:50 Lindon wind adept. weapon insight. decisive strike. Wind can be cast up to 3 times (tends to double, but sometimes procs wind adept to make one of those 2 hit twice) and will regularly crit. but its generally quite weak so a buff of 10 guaranteed is pretty good here.

thanks for this

Camilla's groundswell ability also removes fog created by tiki or corrin. You'd have to create the fog after the unit with Camilla has acted if you want that unit to benefit from the fog

The “this is Hector, not Sigurd” with the playing with fire comment was so uncalled for but I love it, peak comedy 👏

I did Camilla on Veyle so she's another flying mage like Ivy and since she's a dragon she also has access to all dragon veins

Commenting before I get to the build segment of the video, but holy hell, diamant with hector might be the best character in the game now thanks to Sol. He will probably need pair up so he doesn't get chain attacked to death, but if he got that, you just put him in the middle of a bunch of enemies with a killing edge or killer axe, and watch as he goes to town, especially if you somehow manage to make it storms eye+ (though that seems to be difficult without also splitting enemy attention between the character using hector and the one using lyn)

I can't wait for chrom and Robin, should be a cool one.

I've paired Camilla with my griffin knight Chloé and it seems to be working pretty well on hard difficulty. The RES helps her to become an even better mage killer, lance guard makes up for her poor DEF on those times when she gets hit and SPD makes her even more of a dodge tank. The other bonus might not be incredible, but still somewhat useful. Despite her mediocre MAG, she can still use the magic based engage weapons to kill armored units or deal some damage to units on defensive tiles and her high DEX makes decisive strike trigger often.

Pannete with a Camila engraved killer axe and storm eye can get enough crit without wrath, so you can inherit brute force from Chrom for more crit damage. The crit from her dex should be enough to negate enemy luck, and if it’s not, Spd/Dex+ from Chrom can help. There’s also stat boosters.

We need a new game plus so we carry over our sp and have more flexibility from early game !

I like that you made Jean a berserker, very good taste

I understand your thoughts on the power level of some of these engage weapons, which is useful advice when you can get the extra resources from grinding skirmishes, as well as from just purchasing the dlc with all the bonuses it gives. but if you plan to go into a maddening/fixed, even with these extra bonuses, you aren’t going to get the chance to forge every killer/magic weapon to +5 unless you divest a large majority of said resources, and even then, you may want other units that arent being pampered to have some combat utility, and that’s where having these other engage weapons as options comes into play. but as was just stated, this is only a real ‘counterpoint’ if you plan to complete a Lunatic play through WITH the Expansion Pass boosts. An offline play through is not at all in consideration

I put Camilla on Chloe as a griffon knight. Her magic stat maxed out at 38 lol and her physical dmg kinda lacked but the decisive strike helps her physical crits kill. The magic based weapons rock imho

If anyone can test more that'd be sick, but I'm pretty sure the Enemy accounts for Impenetrable on maddening. I was using engaged Louis on the Camilla map and the Cavs did 2 damage to me when I attack but would not engage me in enemy phase, so it doesn't powercreep Ike in tanking fully. Though it might've been Louie's admiration stopping them so I need to test more.

Camilla is my new favorite , she let me further control the battlefield with those new dragon veins effect

Timerra and Hector might just be a god.

Lightning isn't a Thunder spell in any game other than Fates (it's a Light spell, specifically a misspelling of "Lightening"); and even in Fates it's not normal Lightning, since it's blue-purple sparks.

For some the characters chosen as DLC matters greatly to them but me such I’m not all that attached to who we did get I’m more so happy with and care more for the tools they provide/add to the table (gameplay experience).

That Camilla image in the thumb nail is So Adorable Lmao I love it

A forged thunder tome with olwen is better..... Bold of you to assume we have olwen.

The "more likely" to be targeted means they WILL BE targeted if possible. I had three flyers that could be one shot by a bow and the assign decoy saved them

Camillia turns my Mage Knight Ana into a flyer with no weakness

worth noting that dragonic hex and anima focus STACK. with cataclysm, that is -7 defense, -20 hit, -2 move (or minus 4 for a wolf knight), and minus 4 to all other base stats. -7 defense is enough to crack almost any emeny open like an egg.

I can’t believe Mommy is coming to engage

camellia's decisive strike helps clean up- if you hit an armour and leave it barely hanging on, it just dies. It doesn't leave them at one hp.

Camellia and Veronica are my favorite DLC characters

The problem with the hector crit build is that you only get the +20 crit for one turn when using the ultimate. You could alternatively use the build with Leif for +10 crit for all engage turns and free vantage++ but his AI will switch off your engraved weapon often so neither are the perfect solution.

I was able to solo the three new paralogues with Alear on Maddening with Avoid +30 and Pair Up as my skills

the one thing i find hilarious about Soren is not only did we finally get the magic equivalent of Sol, "Flare" back after all these years(the last appearance of it was Radiant Dawn, so long ago) its literally just better Sol in every way on mystical units like Sages despite the fact its limited to 4 turns- Anima focus seems like a really nice inheritable ability for mages without a doubt, it gives some very nice effects depending on the spell used. break recoverydoesn't seem very useful cuz the chances of intentionally breaking the enemy is low in the mid-late game, not to mention you're more likely to one shot them with killer weapons or other things like doubling- Soren's deff very nice. I'm deff happy to see Camilla as a Malig Knight, seriously thats one of the most unique classes in the series, i'm happy she's in. Hector, his heavy attack skill actually.. seems only useful if you used Ike or roy's engrave on generals who're already slow and don't mind the penalty. however, if we consider maxed stats like a unit's class's max build stat, there might be a few strats like Sages for example. Sages have a max 11 build and can be weighted down pretty easily by their strongest tomes. its pretty interesting. these bracelets may be busted but they deff open up a lot of diff potential. I can't wait for Chrom+Robin but especially Veronicas

Adaptability+ with Engaged Ike using either Ragnell or Urvan makes the bonus +8 which is huge honestly

Use Camilla oin Veyle. Seems like the only worthwhile strategy, but admittedly that's a really good combination with Alear!Corrin.

Also all these new emblems have bonuses if you use them next to certain other emblems. Like Tiki/Marth, Edelgard/Byleth. As follows Hector/Lynn, Soren/Ike and Camilla/Coren. Not exactly sure what the bonus is but I will test it when I get off work

To be fair to Camilla's lightning, Olwen's S-rank ring isn't a guarantee to obtain. Part of that is the fact that it's rng and the other thing is that Leif is only available from the end of chapter 8 until the end of chapter 10, and then he comes back after chapter 17.

There's a niche I found out for Hector, try a wyvern Rider. They have 83 base Hp, High Dex, High strength, high defense, and magic/res is not actually garbo so you can use the runic sword and I did inherit additional res from Micaiah which leads to 37 res when attacked, without any other bonuses. Maybe niche, but solid

When I land a critical hit, it's when the enemy has like 1-5 hitpoints. :D

obviously dat mined specifics are ideal, but from personal maddening experience, Soren's Targeting mechanic let me create instances where I *knew* without a doubt that, my low hp Framme for instance, would get hit and die, which in my experience kills are prioritized, and she was instead ignored for my Targeted Great Aether Ike, who then killed four enemies Given how much I much I went on to use this exact thing I almost wonder if that skill was explicitly designed for unit cohesion with the Ike emblem

Only thing I didn't hear is if next to their games engage, theirs upgrades, like Hector gets auto vengeance with Lyn, Camilla goes from a checker board patten, does a 7X7 with 5 spaces free in the middle, I forget Sorens bonus with Ike is though

Dark inferno is really nice for killing a few units that just have chip damage left, breaking lance users, and getting a bit of extra damage simultaneously. I used it a lot to clean up when other units missed their crits or when Lucina's pair up didn't proc.

Ice floor dragon vein. Ahh stride youre just as beautiful as the day I lost you.

Imo Camilla's soar ability kind of makes up for not having Sigurd since while plus 2 isn't exactly as much as plus 5 it's still a good boost. I can see this being good on mage knights who get the extra mov while also basically being flying mages like the elusia sisters and on seadall to be like Sigurd seadall with the bonus of making the qi adept tiles that increase mov as well

More than anything I want the new classes so I can plan for them. I saw on Soren's map the enchanter class. What were the others? Scrambling my brain box on who I should make into an enchanter but I'd need growth rates

My fear is that having the dlc makes the game too easy and is not balanced around it at all, which is a shame since i like the characters :/ (for example when youre limited to 2 emblems suddenly having 5 more through DLC is gonna be a massive boost in power)

Hector's piercing glare also highkey negates enemy backup swarming, as most enemy backups don't have ranged weapons.

Idk, pretty hyped for Camilla. A big pile of res and speed along with a ton of utility/movement is a pretty solid combo.

Once I found out boots was locked behind the pass Im afraid I’ll have to budget for the expansion dlc. I may wait until Chrobin gets here so that I can have time to get into the content before the final wave arrives. Either way Im thumbs up for this dlc as it puts intelligent systems closer to making a perfect FE4 remake in which they have my full faith and support (S rank if you will).

Lol Camilla’s here for all the brothers still trying to get dire thunder 😭😭

I held back from getting the dlc but after Hector being announced I couldn't hold back. Beat lord in FE hands down

My favorite Soren build is actually as a Dual Assister on a Hero. Since Chain Attacks always do a flat 5% Max HP and Heroes have the class skill Brave Assist, putting Soren on will allow your Hero to have a 70% chance to hit a unit in a roughly 15 tile radius for 10% of their max HP, making them an absurd chain attacker. However, the tome damage will usually be pitiful, so the usage of Brave Assist Soren is limited, but I highly recommend it anyways.

I wonder if the new skill Anima Focus from Soren gets applied with chain attacks, assuming you have Lucina on the magic unit

Are you going to do tiki and edlegard. Can only find videos of the base game and wave 2 on everyone’s channels

I think the season pass is worth it for tiki alone. A real game changer

Also if you're worried about decisive strike being bad the damage from decisive strike can kill the enemy if the combat didn't kill

"Gasp" Panette with a Brave Axe...FINALLY YOU WILL BE LEGENDARY NOT JUST AMAZING! Soren "may" replace Lyn on Ivy. Now if I only had more bond fragments to make use of anything...lol

Would decisive strike+ break hold out and do extra chip damage after taking a life bar from a boss?

So what’s the verdict: who are you putting there DLC rings on? I need to know definitively what characters. Thanks

It has Camilla… It’s ABSOLUTELY Beyond Worth It

I won't get the dlc yet. Want to have a "developer intended" maddening run first.

I'm going to meme Heavy Attack with fist weapons

your weapon on defence litterally doesnt matter either way, theres no avoid/hit bonus and you cant break on defence, and break immunity means you also wont be broken regardless what weapon your using.

Caught the editing typo, left the "Nosferatu" bit in there twice (once when you mispronounced it lol) Good job overall, tho

They gave Hector rune sword because in FE6, he was slain by Narcian.

Any tips on how to beat their divine paralogue on maddening, it’s so hard tbh with the exception of Hector’s coz his was easier

Decisive Strike should've just been Savage Blow, honestly! AoE damage around target after combat based on max HP. If that was too strong, make it so it's only with a crit!

Shocking that Hector took half the video compared to the rest.

Maybe this is a dumb question but when/how do you get the DLC emblems. I'm only on like chapeter 13 or 14. I'm assuming they show up as paralogs but when? Do you need to beat the game or do they show up after certain chapters? I'm just curious because I haven't been able to find this information, I work full time and only get through like 1 chapter per day.

I don't really care about the effectiveness of the dlc emblems much, they're good and fun of course, but they're worth it to me because the battles they introduce are fun as hell

I don't really understand why they made a Soren ring instead of one of the actual lords from Radiant Dawn. Enlincia? Tibarn?

Even with alacrity+ still no go with smash weapons?

So fun fact about the runesword, it doesnt use the units magic at all, it uses their str/2, so it's actually really bad on mages, I was really sad about this lmao.

How does quick ripose and vantage work together?

Is it possible to get the dlc emblems WITHOUT receiving the p2w resources?

What about Eliwood?

Camilla seems like a Swordmaster setup for enemy phasing, honestly. Stone Pillar Dragon Vein to patch Swordmaster's crummy defense, the damage per crit actually matters to some extent on Maddening when Swordmasters have weak Str, and further good defensive stats, and some incidental healing/chip damage with Inferno when required. Also, I want to do Flashing Fist Art with Hector so bad since you can actually make it have reasonable Mt with Hector's weight to damage conversion, so you end up with a true double hit Silver-tier weapon and Flashing Fist compensates you for the lost SPD. Problem is getting the weapon weight high enough without resorting to Roy Engrave (which tank your Avo) - it might only be possible with Framme to tank your BLD specifically and might still be terrible due to being made of wet paper, but goddamn it, I will make it work.

also I use camilla on jade and turn her into the god damn iron man

my overall issue with the dlc is that so far. I just dont see its as overall worth it yet. Like the emblems are nice additions, but do I really need to spend the $30 for some extra toys I dont actually need? I beat the game just fine without them. I dont know, hopefully the Xenologue will be more up my alley. But im still not expecting too much from it.

Why you gotta do our boy Sigurd like that 😆

Better then three houses dlc shit also Chrom and Camilla worth it

Lifesphere++ and quick riposte 🤔