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The MOST BROKEN Character in Fire Emblem Engage - Jean and Ike Great Aether Combo Analysis

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LinkKing7

LinkKing7

Күн бұрын

I stumbled on this great combo in Engage that has Jean and Ike going crazy with Great Aether, Wrath and Vantage to be almost unkillable and having a LOT of crit. This build is VERY viable all the way through the end game and while it does take a bit of initial investment and babying of Jean, it will pay off in dividends once it really gets going. He is literally a one man army.
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0:00 Intro
2:09 Growths, Levels and Promotion
9:32 Skills and Final Build
15:37 Showcase and Conclusion
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@yukiizura
@yukiizura Жыл бұрын
Anything that allows Jean to be the demonic killing machine with puppy eyes that he deserves to be is a good thing. Ike 100% would endorse this too.
@HeartOfClod
@HeartOfClod Жыл бұрын
Aka, anything, really haha
@destinyshand2049
@destinyshand2049 Жыл бұрын
I initially took Jean!Tiki High priest for that comical 100 luck, 95 Res, 85 mag to make him anti-armor/anti-magic, then i reclassed to Thief to REALLY get that dex and spd up there with 85 in each. i have since inherited the 15% tiki growths and put Camilla on him, he is putting Yunaka to shame plus nuking armors with camilla bolt axe
@AutisticJesusGaming
@AutisticJesusGaming Жыл бұрын
I made mine a mage hoping he can get a. Shite ton of magic.
@aishi_rei
@aishi_rei Жыл бұрын
Can he really defeat Red Bowman?
@morganuhl9992
@morganuhl9992 10 ай бұрын
@@destinyshand2049 Is theyu any Builds For Jean as a SwordGeneral. Just asking.
@xmaple1x
@xmaple1x Жыл бұрын
Jean's Dad will have the shock of his life after his son returns back from the war with Ike body build and a Jojo pose.
@happyduke99
@happyduke99 Жыл бұрын
And jean said to his dad....I forget my training as a doctor, now I am the world number 1 fighter
@gggamer141
@gggamer141 Жыл бұрын
😂
@Chun712tube
@Chun712tube 4 ай бұрын
Nooo, he is a doctor 😂 haha
@TwilightWolf032
@TwilightWolf032 Ай бұрын
Dad, I'm a healer (pulls out Ragnell), BUT...
@dessam3939
@dessam3939 Жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail, I was always convinced that Ike could pass for a Jojo character (especially part 1-3) and him being Jean’s stand just proves it
@m.a.dmatt6689
@m.a.dmatt6689 Жыл бұрын
omg it only took me this long to realize the emblems 'are' stands
@A-largeCat
@A-largeCat Жыл бұрын
Emblemo powah!
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it, my man Cordelini did an amazing job!
@Zodiacagegaming
@Zodiacagegaming Жыл бұрын
Jean joins the like of muzu, cyril, and donnel of child villagers who are secretly monsters
@blackstar4494
@blackstar4494 Жыл бұрын
Donnelly the OG like my god 😭
@justascarecrow6988
@justascarecrow6988 Жыл бұрын
@@blackstar4494 He who, in a broken game, is broken.
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 Жыл бұрын
But they all require investment when you could use units who are already good. Eh. Not worth it.
@BigmeechT
@BigmeechT Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Ross lol
@DivineNaruto
@DivineNaruto Жыл бұрын
​@@leargamma4912 worth it. They become better than everyone else very shortly.
@zacharytoback7142
@zacharytoback7142 Жыл бұрын
IF YOU GIVE HIM THE THREE HOUSES EMBLEMS HE GETS AYMR BUT THEY MAKE IT JEAN (mini) SIZED ITS SO CUTE I SWEAR
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
That's funny, I never noticed that, I have to go take a look!
@sirajsaunders9967
@sirajsaunders9967 Жыл бұрын
He's my Three Houses runner the who maddening run. He's a BEAST
@hooray4paradiddles
@hooray4paradiddles 5 ай бұрын
OH MY GOSH :D
@iblobtouch
@iblobtouch Жыл бұрын
You can go in the opposite direction and still make a tanky enemy phase monster. Take Jean, put him on martial master, give him Sorens ring and up bond to 14, equip rexcalibur and watch him nosu tank the entire enemy team due to Flares 100% return from damage from tomes.
@kaptainsalty7335
@kaptainsalty7335 Жыл бұрын
My god
@dambros
@dambros Жыл бұрын
I gotta give this a try... I guess the idea is having vantageor hold out as well so you won't die in one hit before healing, right?
@iblobtouch
@iblobtouch Жыл бұрын
@@dambros Honestly i'd suggest putting on speedtaker + pair up and using a speed tonic. Combo's, getting doubled or not doubling back can quickly cause you to lose more hp than you gain. Only if the enemies can literally one shot you do you need hold out since you'll always heal back to full after combat anyway.
@rellix6528
@rellix6528 Жыл бұрын
I just started messing around with Soren, I'm on chapter 15 I think. He seems broken
@dambros
@dambros Жыл бұрын
I couldn't make it work well so far on my current playthrough even though Jean is stat capped on almost everything. His speed is too low for doubling enemies on ch24 and 1 attack with Rex is around 40 DMG, which isn't enough to kill most enemies.
@ryang.2907
@ryang.2907 Жыл бұрын
I agree that Ike actually works best with slightly squishier units. Laguz Friend just isn't doing much on a tank, and works much better on physical glass cannons. I found success with Ike and Panette which is a very popular build simply for mitigating her weakness of low bulk and allowing her to reach high crit rates with Wrath.
@conorb.1901
@conorb.1901 Жыл бұрын
Especially if you're playing on maddening where the ai will outright ignore any unit they have no chance of hitting or damaging
@ryang.2907
@ryang.2907 Жыл бұрын
@@conorb.1901 I actually find Jade better than Louis for that reason. Because she has worse defensive stats than him, she ironically tanks better than him thanks to having a more balanced spread of Def and Res. She can legitimately tank maddening enemies when engaged with Ike, unlike Louis who either dies to mages, or gets ignored by physical units.
@Smuggers.
@Smuggers. Жыл бұрын
He really does, he can bulk up squishier but high kill potential units to really get the most out of their power, especially ones you expect to take a hit anyways. He turns Panette into an entirely different unit than she'd be otherwise, but I'm curious who else and what other strats he enables as well.
@ryang.2907
@ryang.2907 Жыл бұрын
@@Smuggers. I know Kagetsu is good on everyone, but Ike works well with him too. High speed prevents him from getting doubled, he has passable bulk, and with a forged killing edge he can also turn into a crit machine with Wrath. Other than that, you can do Ike with Timerra and Diamant as well. Generally, it will work out okay as long as you don't put him on a thief or mage.
@Smuggers.
@Smuggers. Жыл бұрын
@@ryang.2907 Yeah, I think he'd take worse advantage of great aether and Ike's heavy weapons, but he'd definitely get a lot of crits and has the kind of bulk that I think ike could make tanky, especially when hard to double. I don't think it exactly plays to his strengths though, he could probably be pretty dodgy if you made him that way, so forcing him to eat every hit over a unit who'll take hits anyways seems like a loss of some sort.
@KarelPKerezman
@KarelPKerezman Жыл бұрын
As a filthy casual I just stuck Tiki on Jean right from the get-go and didn't think about it much until I realized a number of chapters later that Jean was hitting stat caps all over the place and that he's simultaneously a dodge-tank and res-tank. You go, little man.
@AlexT7916
@AlexT7916 Жыл бұрын
I readd somewhere that the way Tiki's ring works is by adding 15% to all class growth and that it also gets doubled by Jean personal skill , although I am not sure how true that is
@tagg580
@tagg580 Жыл бұрын
I played my entire hard run with Tiki on Jean and I can at least confirm he is broken ass backwards. Whether that was because of Tiki or not idk, but he was maxing out his stats before chapter 24
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Jean doesn't double Tiki's growths, that I'm 100% sure about because even with 95% strength growth as a Berserker, I was missing some level ups there
@deathcon6261
@deathcon6261 Жыл бұрын
Close. Jean has doubled class growths while Tiki just gives +15% to all growths, they work together but they don’t actually affect each other.
@drygnfyre
@drygnfyre Жыл бұрын
Starsphere just adds a flat +15% to the growth rates (combined personal/class). It is not affected by anything else, it will always be that flat bonus.
@cryguy0000
@cryguy0000 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the rings even did that, that's neat. Do bond rings do the same thing?
@xgxwills2857
@xgxwills2857 Жыл бұрын
The one I ran the whole play through was Jean + Tiki. Needless to say, I never had one bad level up and Jean became borderline unkillable after a little bit of babysitting him for a few levels.
@deathblade32
@deathblade32 Жыл бұрын
I am running him as my healer still, but ran with Tiki until i got statsphere, then switched him into the three lords bracelet until Lyn was available(Yunaka had her until Corrin), but i now just send him + louis(IKE) to solo an area, Yunaka and Anna(Hector originally, switched to Soren, might switch to Cameria to get bonus with Corrin) as a second team, and everyone else just goes where more enemies are to get their scraps.
@bridgesbane7032
@bridgesbane7032 Жыл бұрын
Saw a review, don't remember who, but they said Jean should be left on the bench because his weak starting stats. The moment I saw him and realized he is this game's Donnell, I realized they knew nothing about Fire Emblem.
@ButterKnight-mg7bg
@ButterKnight-mg7bg Жыл бұрын
To be fair this is probably the first unit of that archetype that actually is viable in maddening. Donnel especially takes forever to snowball in a game notorious for snowballing every character.
@bridgesbane7032
@bridgesbane7032 Жыл бұрын
@@ButterKnight-mg7bg yeah, but Donny had a pot on his head. Soooooo
@falxblade1352
@falxblade1352 Жыл бұрын
​@ButterKnight 1000 he does? I only played lunatic once, and it took me the same ~10 levels as on hard to catch up. Mozu would probably suck on lunatic, especially conquest, and I can't say anything about Cyril, but I feel like Donny would clear second easily
@ButterKnight-mg7bg
@ButterKnight-mg7bg Жыл бұрын
@@falxblade1352 Sure donny barbarian can be cool after the 10 levels but robin solo is literally the easiest way to play that game which is why any character that cant immediately participate is considered not worth it. Strangely enough Mozu is considered more viable in conquest than birthright but shes bad in both (unless you have the route bonuses then giving her dread fighter and dragon herbs can just completely catch up on her join map)
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Жыл бұрын
Ross best boy.
@fromnaras
@fromnaras Жыл бұрын
I want to do this but it makes me so sad when he’s not a doctor healer like he wants to be
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
He's being a doctor by practicing preventative medicine and protecting his allies from damage by killing all the enemies first!
@fromnaras
@fromnaras Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 QAQ!!! Is there a certain dialogue he gives when he becomes a non-healer unit?
@stormnationex4145
@stormnationex4145 Жыл бұрын
@@fromnaras "Now i can be a doctor and a fighter" something along those lines. lol
@maliciousheart
@maliciousheart Жыл бұрын
Heal and Kill rhyme. Close enough.
@happyduke99
@happyduke99 Жыл бұрын
Well there is no need to heal when u can kill all ur enemies before they can hurt ya 😂
@sambosung350
@sambosung350 Жыл бұрын
The mad lad rises I was waiting for a crazy build video or two given the semi limited slots. This was beautiful
@harrisonriggs8732
@harrisonriggs8732 Жыл бұрын
Ah. I completely misunderstood how his personal skill worked. I leveled him in martial monk for a while and then because he had a high Magic, I put him on the Mage path until like level 17 and now he's a Mage Knight. He's still an absolute monster paired with Soren. Just goes to show how good he is. You really can't go wrong with him
@gianghuynh9570
@gianghuynh9570 Жыл бұрын
I found out that Great Aether will automatically taunt every enemy when you cast it because of the 100% get hit rate you put on yourself. So having someone with Lucina and Bonded Shield will help block most of the damage. The enemies only attack the Lucina unit if the Ike unit is surrounded and they cannot find a position to hit them, which is not likely to happen. This combo is my favourite to clean map and farm exp. It helps to have the unit using Lucina to have high avo so they don’t get targeted. Also helps to have Soren’s skill to force a unit to be targeted.
@jackmanleblanc2518
@jackmanleblanc2518 Жыл бұрын
That's a subscription for me. This is cool. I look forward to any other builds you make.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the family, and I'm glad you're looking forward to the coming videos!
@eee-man9545
@eee-man9545 Жыл бұрын
For long time emblem fans this is a classic trope the creators make they give a unit a very low base with a ridiculous ability and it can become game breaking, As soon as I saw his personal skill I knew this was the unit they decided on but I chose to go with little Anna seeing a little girl carrying Ike’s weapons and using either is to damn funny lol
@brandondodson2954
@brandondodson2954 Жыл бұрын
This is essentially the standard panette build if you're not running Lyn for speed taker tbh. I don't like committing Lyn to panette though, since you don't really need to double if you one tap everything, and once you hit vantage range speed is no longer an issue, whereas Lynn can shore up someone else that has a harder time doubling or avoiding doubles like Ivy. (Though I use her on Etie because I have a soft spot for her and she needs the help)
@geraldmarroquin4085
@geraldmarroquin4085 Жыл бұрын
If you make Jean a Paladin he can do it all. Tanks every kind of hit (Magical or Physical) and has enough Speed to double most things
@alucard-jy8wh
@alucard-jy8wh 10 ай бұрын
Damn nice mad respect for builds that dont need dlc, i dont have the dlc so this is gonna help allot, new sub ty
@Crazhead89
@Crazhead89 Жыл бұрын
Was literally about to ask if warrior would be more viable when you confirmed my thinking 😂
@Neucher
@Neucher Жыл бұрын
Jean is basically a must deploy on maddening
@claire6452
@claire6452 Жыл бұрын
lol
@nomercy4834
@nomercy4834 Жыл бұрын
Not really, maddening is still easy without him
@musicarain4702
@musicarain4702 Жыл бұрын
@@nomercy4834 I wouldn't say maddening is easy unless you're very knowledgeable about how all the mechanics of the game work
@nomercy4834
@nomercy4834 Жыл бұрын
@MusicaRain then that's just you, it is easy in fact FE games as a whole are easy because it caters to the casuals, maddening is joke compared to a souls game or MMO like FF with extremes/savage/ultimate, don't get me wrong I still have fun with it but I wish the devs would stop thinking of its player base like a joke who can't handle harder difficulty
@lemonbread8019
@lemonbread8019 Жыл бұрын
@@nomercy4834 Bro did you seriously just compare a turn-based tactical RPG to an action RPG Also FFXIV savages would be the easiest shit ever if it were single player. The main difficulty of any MMORPG encounter is coordination with the other players.
@Fiestaknight29
@Fiestaknight29 Жыл бұрын
Something I learned with pair up on my maddening run the AI will attack a unit if they can back up attack them as well even if they do 0 damage, I did this with my Jade and had a blast just letting her wall/distract problem fast units like sword masters and Griffin Knights on the last map
@Gamemaster-64
@Gamemaster-64 Жыл бұрын
Had a map with different people in range to be attacked, to my surprised they went for yunaka. I was basically laughing for an easy win(when it come to bosses that aren't alone most of the time I have no idea what to do.).
@jacklambert6453
@jacklambert6453 Жыл бұрын
Quick correction to something here that I didn't see in the comments already: You should always, always use master seals to promote a unit before you 2nd seal. If you use the 2nd seal 1st, you have to spend 20 levels in a base class. In Jean's case, you spend 10 levels in monk and 10 levels in fighter before you can be a berserker. The promotion path would look like this: 10 levels in Monk -> 2nd Seal to level 1 fighter -> 10 levels in fighter -> Master Seal to Berserker However, if you promote him at level 10 to an advanced class, you can 2nd seal him immediately to berserker as there is no level requirement for 2nd seal use once you are promoted. This would totally bypass the 10 levels he has to spend as a fighter and because engage moderates exp gains based off an internal level counter, he would actually gain exp faster as a level 1 berserker with this method. Promotion path would look like this: 10 levels in Monk -> Master Seal to Martial Master -> (without levelling) 2nd Seal to Berserker. The change in growths would get him a 20% higher strength growth for the 10 levels he would have spent in fighter and 10% higher growths in HP and Build. It also gets him access to better weapons sooner and an extra point of movement which is nice> This tip is true for every character and not just Jean, so it's useful to know. Small tip for promoting aside, I really enjoyed the video! This is a funny build and it looks like it works great, especially if you get him some forges and engravings on those weapons. I bet a forged tomahawk would be incredibly rude here.
@nanashivii9237
@nanashivii9237 Жыл бұрын
At 5:39, he mentions why Jean is the exception to the rule of "promote first, reclass second". It has everything to do with Jean's Personal Skill Expertise, which doubles the growth rates of whatever class he is in. Therefore, if you're trying to optimize his build, it makes sense to reclass him into something that has beneficial growths since Jean joins at Lv1 and needs to gain those 9 Base class levels before promotion regardless. As you can see from the timestamp, he gains an average of 5 HP/2 Str/1 Dex/2 Spd/1 Bld over his default Monk class in that short stint in a Base class, making it more efficient to reclass before anything else. Not only that, he is more effective in the short term this way and doesn't end up with a bunch of redundant stats that could've gone into useful ones.
@ponyboy696
@ponyboy696 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to train someone to level 10 to second seal them to a different base class. I don't know how you thought that.
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын
You do need to second seal because most classes need you to be either level 10 or 20 in a different base class in order to re class into that class.
@jaden149
@jaden149 Жыл бұрын
seems like a pretty fun build will probably try this out when ever i do maddening
@TheGamersState
@TheGamersState Жыл бұрын
Sombron: I have an army Alear: We have a Jean
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Жыл бұрын
Ike once again taking over the protag role as best unit. Is anyone surprised?
@holycrapitsachicken
@holycrapitsachicken Жыл бұрын
If you want to make Jean something else but also have something similar to this that's better than Boucheron, Berserker Amber works well for this. Amber's Aspiring Hero skill makes him take way too many hits so having Ike's Laguz Friend completely nullify that demerit while also reaping the massive health growth of the Berserker class is definitely valuable. It lets him take advantage of the large +20 hit from Aspiring Hero to make the notoriously low hit rate axes actually smack them while also activating Aspiring Hero naturally since he's throwing himself into battle. While Amber's health growth pales in comparison to Boucheron and Jean at only a mere 95, his strength growth supplants both of them at 75 throwing in +2 to the Strength cap. Also, Boucheron sucks as a Berserker since he doesn't have high strength but rather has extremely high dexterity. That doesn't work well for Berserker since Berserker literally has the lowest dexterity cap in the game. Boucheron is better of switching to a Wyvern Knight cause of that since it's way too easy to cap out on dex if he stays as a Berserker. It should be a given, but you kinda want the highest strength growth for the highest strength cap and growth class in the game. Amber's stats are more suited to that, and his skill even works well for it.
@Smuggers.
@Smuggers. Жыл бұрын
Yep, this is very very similar to the Panette build I was running by the end of hard classic. I saw he had the potential to become something like this near the end of my hard playthrough, but by then my Panette was already like this. Though he doesn't get the benefit of her really high base strength and hp, and doesn't have the extra 10 crit and maybe some personal stat cap modifiers. In my case, I had +6 extra attack with axes as well, instead of vantage. Since I didn't have quite the group killing potential yours does with vantage/pair up I was using her for great aether, some longbow snipes (she was classed as warrior), and as a kill this unit button with the ~80-100% crit triple digit damage attacks she was getting. Nice to see other people finding things like this, though I think I'll be making my Jean a halberdier or maybe mage knight for cutting through defenses, since there's only one Ike.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
The thing with Jean is that he catches up to the bases of every single unit in the game, including Pannette, and he eventually eclipses them, so that isn't the problem. Pannette has the advantage of the extra +10% crit that synergizes so well with this build otherwise.
@ShirakoriMio
@ShirakoriMio Жыл бұрын
"We have an army!" "We have a pissed off med student. :) "
@eustacemcgoodboy9702
@eustacemcgoodboy9702 Жыл бұрын
Ike is just good I think you put him on almost anyone and you're going to have a good time. I put Ike on Merrin as Griffin Knight with Hurricane Axe and also Geniality+ for ultra tank + flyer destruction.
@bfmvbrass
@bfmvbrass Жыл бұрын
Most of yall didnt play on maddening CLEARLY. Ike is so damn good in maddening. Some chapters would be extra brutal without him. Easily one of the best emblems IMO
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Most people don't start with the highest difficulty yes, but usually they go back for a second run when they're more comfortable with the game
@kaidestinyz
@kaidestinyz Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Yet here I am, on maddening classic on my first FE game, 1st playthrough. My friends dared me to go for it and ppl at reddit assured me that it's easily doable. Btw, does Jean's personal skill expertise just doubles class growths? Some website says it's 2x his personal growth or combined. I'm so confused.
@gokuby
@gokuby Жыл бұрын
@@kaidestinyz Jean only doubles class growths, his personal growth is fixed. He also doesn't double Tikis growth boost, tho as explained in the video they are matching very well regardless.
@haloemblemproductions9954
@haloemblemproductions9954 Жыл бұрын
I made my Jean a Halberdier and equipped him with the Emblem Of Rivals bracelet, and boy he’s amazing! Before I gave him Brionac he was equipped with a killer lance, a Rivals Engraved Silver lance, and a spear, and he usual took out everything that stood in his way. But when I gave him Brionac he was a one man army.
@rayreaves
@rayreaves Жыл бұрын
Love hearing you mispronounce his name the whole video. But I LOVE this build. You're killing it with your vids my guy
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them my friend, thanks for the encouragement!
@Oscar_Milde
@Oscar_Milde Жыл бұрын
"You're going to have to put up with it." Bold of you to assume I'm not watching with captions to spare my ears
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Damn, I didn't know my voice had that effect on people, that's sad...
@Oscar_Milde
@Oscar_Milde Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Not the voice, just the butchering of my boy's name
@miller1308
@miller1308 Жыл бұрын
You got great videos dude! Just a tip if you want to improve the quality of vour videos even more: People want it simple, so if you would pack everthing important into a "checklist" at the end of the video or w/e it would be much appreciated, trust me! Cheers!
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
I did do a little recap at the end of the skill/build portion because I knew it might be too much, but I do like if people follow my thought process in general, otherwise they might be confused, so it's a bit of a trade off, but I'll keep that in mind!
@TigerMultiGun
@TigerMultiGun Жыл бұрын
With tiki you can level up jean from 1 to 20 in one chapter, just trap a bowman put one that can't attack from that range and make jean heal him, it will grant him xp + refill fusion gauge allow to use the tiki special, with marth it grants you 30xp each time
@AcousticHarmonia
@AcousticHarmonia Жыл бұрын
As a fellow content creator I felt obligated to correct the misinformation present in this video. Stat caps are based both off the class and the unit's maximum stat modifiers (MSMs); you take the maximum stats of the class and apply the MSMs of the unit (this is how it worked in Awakening/Fates as well), which you can find on SerenesForest under characters maximum stats, not that far off from where you found the maximum class stats you showed (which I imagine you assumed was the maximum stats regardless of unit since there were no MSMs in Three Houses). If we're going for the strongest possible build, we'd care a lot more about the MSMs than we would character growth rates, as MSMs affect what the cap of our potential is, whereas growths just affect how long it takes to get there. If you're at a characters maximum stats you'd never have to worry about growths ever again, which would render Jean's personal skill useless at that point, as if he is now the one character in the game with no personal skill. I would assume we're talking about maximum potential here considering the initial goal was to hit the HP cap and then this build spawned from that, so I'll be basing my analysis off of what is the strongest regardless of growths. Calling Jean "potentially the best unit in the game for every class" if we're talking purely from a maximum potential standpoint is just blatantly wrong, he's one of the worst actually. If we're talking about just doing the main game through and then putting it down, never trying to perfect any units, then sure, the argument can be made, but if we're talking the ceiling of potential regardless of the amount of grinding time to reach it, then it is false. All Jean is is the unit who can most *quickly* hit the maximum stats of that given class, but at the end of the day would actually be *worse* than almost any other unit in the game once those maximum stats are hit, as he essentially has no personal skill at that point whereas every other unit does. It's also worth noting that his MSMs are +2 Magic, -1 Dexterity, -1 Speed, +1 Luck, not exactly fantastic MSMs but alright enough if you put him into a Magic class, since he's gaining +2 to his maximum Magic but +-0 to his maximum Strength. This means his best final class is in a magic-based class, where he benefits from the +2. Putting him into a physical class instead just wastes his potential, considering you've now got a physical unit whose only change to stats they care about is -1 Dex, -1 Spd, +1 Lck, gross... Let's call this a -1.5 to stats we care about, -1 to Dex and Spd, and +1 Lck which is the least important stat in the game so I'm adding 0.5 instead of 1. Of the 36 characters in this game, and assuming we don't care about Magic MSMs because we're going for a purely physical class and treating Lck and 0.5, there are only 3 units in the game Jean can do better than (Celine, Citrinne, Pandreo, as most of their MSMs are in Magic). This means that 33/36 characters have a higher ceiling of potential in this build than Jean, or in other words 92% of the cast that's better at this build than him. "The MOST BROKEN Character in Fire Emblem Engage" you say...? It'd be fine if you specified this was for getting this setup online as soon as possible so you can use it for as much of the main story as you can, but since that isn't the case this really is just straight up misinformation. Anybody watching this video who wants the strongest possible builds regardless of grinding time because you want to take on things like the ultimate Tempest Trials, this is a pretty alright build you could go with, but please do not give it to Jean, give it to somebody else you feel is most fitting based off of 1) Maximum Stat Modifiers and 2) Personal Skill (though it's pretty hard to choose somebody worse than Jean for this to be fair) Other notes, yes Lineage from the Rivals can increase EXP growth by 1.2x, but it's just a worse version of a main game skill, being Byleth's Mentorship, which affects both the unit and any adjacent units (although it's 250SP as oppose to 150SP). And this isn't even a thing for this video specifically but just helping with Engage in general, but you mention Ike's Resolve+ has helped make your tank units even tankier, but there's an even better damage reducing alternative if we're talking about what skills to inherit, and that's Eirika's Gentility+. Resolve+ grants Def/Res +7 when under 75% HP, Gentility+ on the other hand reduces damage taken by 5. So take 7 less damage when under 75% HP, or 5 less damage always? I would argue Gentility+ is the far greater boon, and could only really see myself running Resolve+ on Timerra (and one other niche case unit) to boost Sandstorm damage as it's based off defence. Anyway, if you're reading this LinkKing, know that I do love getting to know fellow content creators, so feel free to reach out sometime if you'd like to talk Engage numbers, as crunching numbers of games like this is something I do. Ever since the release of Fates I've been making dedicated excel spreadsheets for each of the FE games I play to compile all relevant information so I can number crunch to figure out what seems to be ideal builds, and turn it into a resource for Fire Emblem fans to more easily visualize the possibilities themselves. I'm not yet done with my Engage sheet so it's not publicly released yet, I'd say I'm a bit more than halfway through, and because of the sheer amount of projects I take on I haven't had a chance to test out my builds properly in game yet, but if things work the way the math seems to imply I'd wager I have a fair few builds plotted out stronger than this. So let me know if ever you want to talk shop.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Lmao, you leave an absolutely obnoxious comment on my video to "correct my misinformation" when all you're doing is pointing out very minute details that don't matter in the grand scheme of things to try and one up my work and you want me to reach out to you to "talk shop"? I think you need to work on your sales pitch a bit more, maybe worry less about 1-2 stat variations and look at the big picture a bit more.
@AcousticHarmonia
@AcousticHarmonia Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Huh? The big picture? My guy you made an entire video about a character whose only selling point is that they're the fastest to hit their ceiling when they have one of the lowest ceilings in the game, that's about as far from big picture as you can possibly get. I hoped I could help you out, but I guess not everyone is capable of taking criticism, my mistake
@m.a.dmatt6689
@m.a.dmatt6689 Жыл бұрын
That was my exact reaction to Ike's Great Aether lol
@scouttengu
@scouttengu Жыл бұрын
Alright... Who's gonna tell him how to pronounce the name right?
@EthanPugel32
@EthanPugel32 Жыл бұрын
Came right to the comments after I heard how he said it lol
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
I know how to pronounce it, I even mentioned it in the video itselffff
@TheRollingStone11
@TheRollingStone11 Жыл бұрын
Boucheron will actually be faster in ax classes thanks to his build advantage. That is assuming you want to use anything other than Iron and Hand axes.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Jean's double growths have him catching up to boucheron in the build department based off averages if you look at them again, and eventually Jean will CAP his build, like in my video
@Vinylmelody1517
@Vinylmelody1517 Жыл бұрын
Well looks like I found my Jean build for my next playthrough
@UniGya
@UniGya 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, this was pretty much my first thought when seeing the Ike ring. Not on Jean, I actually kept him as a martial master because I thought it was fun to see him kick the crap out of enemies and he’s one of the few units who can pull off the weird way Arts scale for damage, but I slapped it immediately on Panette and I would warp her into clumps of enemies with a great axe and watch her delete them like it was nothing
@spencer4514
@spencer4514 2 ай бұрын
So I made my Jean a spear paladin with Ike emblem. I had starsphere for the extra stat growth and he's now my powerhouse. He's more tanky than a general at times
@Axel-wo6qu
@Axel-wo6qu Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how strong you can make a martial artist, since the arts have the unique ability to strike twice, they could regain their engage meter very quickly, on top of doing lots of damage when they get more hits in normally.
@GomerJ
@GomerJ Жыл бұрын
Wish I knew this about Jean- I reclassed him as soon as I could but would’ve put more thought into it if I realized how the skill really worked. Will absolutely look at this guy differently on future playthroughs, thanks
@VangolaGear
@VangolaGear Жыл бұрын
12:02 yeah, Ike isn’t an Emblem for tanks. Tanks appreciate the mitigation but don’t particularly care because if they’re doing their job right they shouldn’t be taking much, if any, damage already. He is an emblem for an archetype called Bruisers. Bruisers are typically more durable than damage dealers but less durable than tanks and do more damage than tanks but do less than damage dealers (like nukers or DPS). These are characters like Diamant and Pennet.
@DemonVermin
@DemonVermin Жыл бұрын
Which makes sense. In his original games Ike was the definition of a Lightning Bruiser. Fast, Strong, Tanky… he could do it all!
@daddysempaichan
@daddysempaichan Жыл бұрын
Basically characters like the High HP, low Defense Axe users in the series, characters who's tankyness stems from having enough HP to facetank everything instead of minimizing damage taken.
@xVibra
@xVibra Жыл бұрын
Afaik every single character starts with 300 SP, unless there's specific exceptions.
@mysetlist2118
@mysetlist2118 Жыл бұрын
Yea Jean is a beast kept him as a martial master though I’ll try this out when dlc 4 comes out with the new maps as of now done with engage until then oddly enough I put tiki emblem on him to without thinking just thought it be fun having the kid transform into a dragon
@suenzhong7891
@suenzhong7891 Жыл бұрын
In my current playthrough Jean is a magic user because I reclassed Clanne into a crit beast sword unit. I would like to try this build in my next playthrough it looks fun
@mrfathead915
@mrfathead915 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I set up my Panette. Was one of my best units in late game
@Locklen
@Locklen Жыл бұрын
Dang, that is one meaty Jean. Still not sure where I wanna take him when I do my maddening run, but this is tempting.
@archellothewolf2083
@archellothewolf2083 Жыл бұрын
If you're willing to put the time in, the weak lil' healer is almost always the most OP character in any given Fire Emblem game.
@WGigahertz
@WGigahertz Жыл бұрын
Hey man, great build! I'm enjoying myself a lot with it 🤣 Was wondering, have you tried it inheriting the double counter from Hector ? Was wondering about it...
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
That can work, but you'd lose out on pair up or vantage, and honestly, he doesn't really need it because he one shots most enemies in the game anyways!
@dexteradams6515
@dexteradams6515 Жыл бұрын
As someone new to Fire Emblem, and someone who just does not understand the numbers Im glad this explains why this 12 year old doctors apprentice became the keystone to my army. Seriously I had no idea why he felt so powerful. I babied him because he was my healer, made a mistake and a few enemies got too close. Jean proceed to dodge and nuke all challengers. I guess that double stat growth kicked in while I was not paying attention
@psychicbeagle5106
@psychicbeagle5106 Жыл бұрын
Bandits broke into the hospital. The harmacist broke them back.
@MrYellowfairy007
@MrYellowfairy007 Жыл бұрын
So when you say do level him up. are you meaning do play him until we can do the class change? To keep him at level one? Or can we play him just don’t change anything until class changes? Just stared the game today.
@Bogarden27
@Bogarden27 Жыл бұрын
I would like to know that myself but so far I haven’t gotten an answer.
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын
I think they mean don't allow him to level up before reclassing him out of his base martial monk class.
@IsuKen
@IsuKen Жыл бұрын
That intro got me like "Yo Jean, drop that beat!"
@d.d.vignali4419
@d.d.vignali4419 4 ай бұрын
Jean was my most OP Unit, I wasn't even trying. This was in maddening.
@masterdreamer7848
@masterdreamer7848 Жыл бұрын
I made my Jean a Swordmaster with the Lyn Ring and gave him a Brave Sword. He has so much speed, that with the Brave Sword and Alacrity, he can attack 4 times before the enemy can even attack once.
@AirshipFury
@AirshipFury Жыл бұрын
I didn't read the entire title before clicking the video and immediately thought you were gonna call out Jean. Side note, I remember being subbed to your channel back when 3H came out, but for some reason I was un-subbed?
@Nepu_Nep
@Nepu_Nep Жыл бұрын
My Anna is currently breaking the world with 294 damage crits and 119 hp
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
How does she have 119 HP when 116 is the cap?
@Nepu_Nep
@Nepu_Nep Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 double HP/LCK +10
@TheSuperCasual2914
@TheSuperCasual2914 Жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until a little boy executes a Great Aether against 10 people at point blank
@borjaarellano9966
@borjaarellano9966 Жыл бұрын
quick question,should i level up jean in the armor knight class or the axe fighter class? i plan on making him into a wyvern rider but i don't know if making him into an armor knight would benefit him as a wyvern
@mochico88
@mochico88 Жыл бұрын
I'm just curious why you pronounce his name "jeen" and not "zhaun", when that's how he says it (like Jean-Luc Picard). I mean, I can see that it reads as "jeen", but it does also read as "zhaun". Like, I have yet to ever hear anyone pronounce Sean as "sheen". Awesome video though, and it's stuff like this that makes me want to do a second run sooner (sorry to most of my backlog that I've promised to get to).
@jmagicd9831
@jmagicd9831 Жыл бұрын
I made a mistake with Jean and he’s a level 4 Martial Monk. Is it better to second seal now and do 10 more axe fighter levels, or get to 10 and promote before second second sealing. (I did the latter on Anna, and she’s running Dire Thunder to be viable until I can snowball her)
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
you can promote him and second seal later, it'll make a difference but it's not unusable
@SaramadHill
@SaramadHill Жыл бұрын
Turning a pharmacist into a harmacist
@VirgoVyrus
@VirgoVyrus Жыл бұрын
You pronouncing Jean as gene is a hate crime lol. Great build 👏🏻👌🏼
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
My bad, but at least I admitted it!
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын
That's how they pronounce it in game. 😂
@superfrubblez6123
@superfrubblez6123 Жыл бұрын
Don’t characters have personal stat cap modifiers like fates? Who has the highest hp cap modifier?
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Hp doesn't have a personal modifier, but yes, they do have minor ones. Since HP doesn't have one, I didn't bother talking about that
@superfrubblez6123
@superfrubblez6123 Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 oh I didn’t realize everyone’s max HP is the same. Then yeah Jean is the best choice for this.
@veiotisligon9140
@veiotisligon9140 Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday to me Link posted a video great day so far!
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday friend, I hope you had a fantastic one!
@syrusmarks1
@syrusmarks1 Жыл бұрын
Normally, i dont care for this stuff. I watch it just to see what happens. I also simultaneously get anxity that i "built my character wrong." You're gental reinforcing of "maddening difficulty" helped remind me im playing on a lower difficulty, im doing just fine right now, (my Jean practicly one hits on normal, as mage, with soren) and i should enjoy the show.
@aced3657
@aced3657 Жыл бұрын
*cue in giorno piano theme* JeanJean! *Piano theme intensifies* Radiant Dawn!
@dangochao8612
@dangochao8612 Жыл бұрын
why does equiping tiki give all those extra stat growth percenteges? is it from starsphere?
@gabrielcalderon6715
@gabrielcalderon6715 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@oneiricccc_
@oneiricccc_ Жыл бұрын
What if I have my Jean already stat capped as a sage? Will it be too late for him to be reclassed to berserker for this build?
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
You're probably better off just keeping him as a sage at this point, he can be good in any class though!
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын
No, anyone can become any class and be good. Just might have to use 1 or 2 more seals.
@sosspeedy
@sosspeedy Жыл бұрын
I literaly found this video, when I was contemplainting the idea of Jean Berserker and type those two words in youtube search :D 60 str growth rate is bonkers.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
The like minded people must be brought together, it's 80 though, not 60, at least when he reaches berserker!
@sosspeedy
@sosspeedy Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Yep, I was counting only berserker rates with Jean's passive, without Jean's growth rates. :)
@sosspeedy
@sosspeedy Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Also I gotta question. What are your thoughts on Céline sword build, I was just checking her growth rates and her Str growth are Higher than her Mag and she also has quite decent res and luck, Im thinking about turning her into some kind of mage slayer. :D
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
@@sosspeedy It definitely works, she's pretty flexible in what you can do with her tbh!
@destinyshand2049
@destinyshand2049 Жыл бұрын
And now with Veronica, using those seraph robes makes him even more busted
@feinne7652
@feinne7652 Жыл бұрын
How do you reclass characters and keep them alive long enough to get exp? With how fights scale I have like 2 units that can solo the map, 2-3 that can survive at least 2 turns, then everyone else just gets wiped out on enemy phase. Clearly I'm doing something wrong, just not sure what.
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын
Give that unit either Miciah or something that enables Staves, or (if you have dlc) give them Tiki? Did that for Anna, and now she's a Griffin Knight and can solo maps. (Started as her base class, went to Sword Flier than Griffin Knight, so she could attack with Levin Sword)
@dry90125
@dry90125 Жыл бұрын
Breaking news; Donnel’s British Cousin carry’s on his legacy of mauling the entire endgame with nothing but a massive fuck-you axe and growth rates
@letizia_w4934
@letizia_w4934 Жыл бұрын
It may be a dumb question but I am not that far into the game so there are still a few things i don't understand. Vantage is Leifs skill. You can inherit the "normal" version by getting the units bond to Level 3. I'm at chapter 9 and Leifs max Bondlevel goes up to Level 10. Does it reach another max Level when I have more progress in the game? I'm confused since the Dlc chars can already reach up to Bondlevel 20. So, do I have to inherit Leifs level 3 skill and later on his level whatever skill to get Vantage+??
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Yes, in the second half of the game you unlock their paralogues, and the max bond level increases to 20. I believe if you look at the Ring section in the Reference area it should show them. Not sure if it shows them early on or not but try checking there for more details
@letizia_w4934
@letizia_w4934 Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Thank you^^
@jamesc7894
@jamesc7894 Жыл бұрын
I love Jean’s duel quotes. And then he murders people.
@apothecary1725
@apothecary1725 Жыл бұрын
I made mine a high priest and he's got level-ten bonds with all the other 6 Rings not only can he use magic in fisticuffs but he can heal himself with his own staffs and he has that ability where if someone uses a weapon he can counter by picking the best weapon against there watching this little kid punch armored units been dodging crazy then I gave him a scroll with that seal that gives him avoid 40 +In for a level and mine up I used the rings ability ultimate sacrifice cuz it levels them up buy 1 each time it's used and heals all the other team but you got to let it run out and then run over to a blue circle to re fill it fast
@talongeorge3750
@talongeorge3750 Жыл бұрын
When you say + Tiki does this mean with her ring equipped or with an inherited skill from her? Or does either one work, I don't remember what the skill is called but I'm thinking about the one that gives a bonus to stat growths, which is what I think you're talking about here, just want to verify because sometimes this stuff seems to have like hidden requirements that I always seem to misunderstand or misinterpret.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Whenever the starsphere skill is active, so yeah, if the bracelet is equipped OR the skill, either one works, but they don't stack
@talongeorge3750
@talongeorge3750 Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Awesome! Thank you!
@bladecommando
@bladecommando Жыл бұрын
Thought; Micaiah ring during leveling up just to burn staves for exp so he needs less babying
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
You can do that if you're not using Tiki for the bonuses yes, otherwise, it's really not too bad if you let him have the finishing blow and help with chain attacks, kills with those count for him
@lanceareadbhar
@lanceareadbhar Жыл бұрын
Wait, you can loop at level 20? I definitely had most of my characters at level 20 for probably the last six chapters. At least it was hard mode so I was able to beat it.
@MNtoCali
@MNtoCali Жыл бұрын
So you could do the same thing with Pannete without the investment… no sealing required and much less babying. I don’t see the point of berserker Jean when there’s Panette ready to go or Saphir ready to reclass
@sly2883
@sly2883 Жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video for swordmaster or at least recommend the build for it
@billygrimes8825
@billygrimes8825 Жыл бұрын
Why are you so concerned about growth rates? You can always use a second seal to reset any class to level one and keep getting stat ups until you hit the class cap
@trikkinikki6843
@trikkinikki6843 Жыл бұрын
Because we want to get the build up and running as fast as possible, there are less skirmishes on hard and basically none in maddening so you can’t just infinitely level somebody, and money gets pretty tight by the end of the game so you don’t want to spend too much on second seals. No use in grinding up a character with bad growths and stats when you can use someone that can get up there quickly.
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
Like the other comment said, infinite grinding isn't always fun and some people want things to get up and running quickly without having to spend a lot of time doing it
@Satawolf
@Satawolf Жыл бұрын
Every trainee since their introduction has always been a beast unit since time in memoriam.
@jessieslootstash
@jessieslootstash Жыл бұрын
"punches like a wet noodle" love it lol
@ArcHourGaming
@ArcHourGaming Жыл бұрын
So he's the Donny of this game
@dobbersanchez1185
@dobbersanchez1185 7 ай бұрын
ah just like donnel and his sweet sweet aptitude
@MidnaNightengale
@MidnaNightengale Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail looks like Jean's about to say: "Star Platinum! Za Warudo!"
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
My artist did a phenomenal job with it!
@MidnaNightengale
@MidnaNightengale Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 Yes, it's very nice!
@Bogarden27
@Bogarden27 Жыл бұрын
I am confused. How did you promote him from Martial Monk at level 1 to Axe Fighter? Did I miss something?
@pharynx007
@pharynx007 Жыл бұрын
with a second seal. axe fighter is a base class, so it can be swapped into by anyone with a second seal afaik, so long as they have the weapon proficiency, thus him getting the axe proficiency.
@tzuhan
@tzuhan Жыл бұрын
Since FE Awakening, villagers with the good growth skill are always the most broken characters in the FE series. It’s a promise
@dullededge1395
@dullededge1395 Жыл бұрын
this whole time i thought i his skill doubled his base growths like cyril
@jaimereupert4247
@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын
Like i always say, everyone is good, if you actually use them.
@exthechickenwing
@exthechickenwing Жыл бұрын
i did not get jean chapter 5. how? also where r u getting these numbers ?
@LinkKing7
@LinkKing7 Жыл бұрын
The numbers are all datamined, and you get him in a paralogue that unlocks after chapter 5
@exthechickenwing
@exthechickenwing Жыл бұрын
@@LinkKing7 the ice stage vs Tiki? im on that now. cant seem to win. how do you access these numbers?
@marchell5177
@marchell5177 Жыл бұрын
so i would promote jean to axe fighter from martial monk?
@RaidenKaiser
@RaidenKaiser Жыл бұрын
I honestly underestimated jade, 2nd playthrough and she might actually top Louis so far lol.
@eb8232
@eb8232 8 ай бұрын
What difficulty are you on?
@TheFrio937
@TheFrio937 Жыл бұрын
Damian with Sol, Holdout +++ and Vantage is kinda fun
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