FULL PRESSER: Wild GM Bill Guerin discusses buying out Zach Parise, Ryan Suter

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Minnesota Wild general manager Bill Guerin holds a press conference to talk about the team buying out the final four years on the contracts of veteran players Zach Parise and Ryan Suter.

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@vedicardi 2 жыл бұрын

bill is already the best wild GM of all time

@maxrcrypto 2 жыл бұрын

You're not going to be winning anything by paying over 10 million in buyouts

@vedicardi 2 жыл бұрын

@@maxrcrypto holy shit its maurice richard

@midimusicforever 2 жыл бұрын

It's a Wild move for sure!

@westb1028 2 жыл бұрын

Man I love BG

@MrSrtman18 2 жыл бұрын

Its about damn time. Biggest mistake this franchise has made, set them back well lets say 10 years. Craig is a problem as well, doesnt do what it takes to win.

@Gogalen789 2 жыл бұрын

When it was mentioned they were signed to 13 year contracts, what a tragedy !

@marknieuwejaar1075 2 жыл бұрын

high as fk...

@PENS68 Жыл бұрын

That was prior to the new CBA. With the new CBA now, the maximum number of years UFA and RFA, signing contracts with new teams, can go is 7 years and if you are resigning a player under contract, is 8 years. You would see a lot of term contracts, the Parise and Suter deals, Shea Weber signed a 14 year deal with the Predators, Duncan Keith signed a 13 year deal with the Blackhawks in 2009, Henrik Zetterberg signed a 12 year contract in 09 with The Red Wings, Crosby signed a 12 year contract with the Penguins in 2012, Ovechkin I think signed a 12 year contract with the Capitals in 08.

@daneherring509 2 жыл бұрын

Believe in Bill!

@ramela 2 жыл бұрын

Guerin said that he knows that his decisions will never make everyone happy. A better way to put it would be that if he ever makes a decision that everyone is happy with, then he knows he did that decision a year too late.

@chihuahuaman7025 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently Sutter hung up on Bill when he called to break the news.

@binnins1982 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about Suter being gone but i can also see it since they both singed as a pair its only fair to buy them out as a pair. Am excited to see who fills thier rolls though and who gets the A's....i would think moose has to be one of the players in mind.

@S_A_D. 2 жыл бұрын

I CONCUR

@randyduncan4672 2 жыл бұрын

Lifetime Penguin fan, you got a great GM , straight shooter character guy. Wish it worked out he had gotten Pittsburgh job. Looking for great things from Wild in the future.

@josephmcauley7605 2 жыл бұрын

Parise was a way better player than Bill, fuck this dude. Also Wild fans, your prospect pool isen't even top 10, stop doing mental gymnastics to say this was a good move.

@steveking8548 2 жыл бұрын

Ken Holland needs to watch Bill Guerin in this press conference!!! Holland's last interview was argumentative, arrogant and simply pathetic. Guerin was TOP NOTCH and Holland could learn a boat full. Too bad Holland can't be fined by the Oilers!

@Ryan-vi2qy 2 жыл бұрын

Holland trade will work. Give it time

@obey2dmax 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Wild is on a major overhaul mode. Old Guard are going to be bought out soon while New Guard are waiting to sign multi year contracts.

@MNWildFan57 2 жыл бұрын

Really the only one that is left of the old guard is Spurgeon.

@hpcarlos2255 2 жыл бұрын

Ny islanders thanks bill Gerin for Zach Parise buyout as he fits Nicely to Our system 🍷

@guystlouis9328 2 жыл бұрын

did guerin mention the 15 million the team has to pay in 2 years

@westb1028 2 жыл бұрын

Still cheaper and better than keeping them.

@MNWildFan57 2 жыл бұрын

@@westb1028 And even better than if they were to retire before then.

@MNWildFan57 2 жыл бұрын

@DragonHeero That would have been even worse if they had retired early instead of being bought out. Because of how the contracts are structured.

@robertwells6724 2 жыл бұрын

Why do GM's sign players over 6 years? It never works. Ask the Islanders.

@NotJoe101 2 жыл бұрын

Rick DiPietro.. 15-year, $67.5 million contract.. lol

@redbird726 2 жыл бұрын

This was a problem he was willing to take on. The problem isn’t solved. But it is not going to keep the team from moving forward.

@westleyweinburger6171 2 жыл бұрын

from what i heard the locker room was ran by those 2 and guerin saw what good prospects he had and its going to be a better team now imo

@hotrodriguez549 2 жыл бұрын

You must be 2nd line player.

@jackpulley5425 Жыл бұрын

@@hotrodriguez549 any comment now bud?

@briggsofdisaster 2 жыл бұрын

It’s the right move.

@sgoody334 2 жыл бұрын

Love Bill but I’m not sure thus is the best role for him

@westleyweinburger6171 2 жыл бұрын

the culture of the locker room was never going to move on with them signed so he kinda had 2

@jackpulley5425 Жыл бұрын

Any takes now?

@HonchoHoodo 2 жыл бұрын

Bill "ummm uhhhh " Guerin

@jackd6148 2 жыл бұрын

Good move Bill. Probably couldn't trade them, unless you gave up picks, and they agreed to it.

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

Horrible move. Their cap hits come back next year. It was pointless.

@jamesgabrielson473 2 жыл бұрын

I could see the Wild now being a team that takes on a bad contract from another team this year in exchange for more draft capital or a prospect.

@redbird726 2 жыл бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 Respectfully, I disagree. There is more into this that makes the cap hit worth it. Are you a fan of the Wild?

@redbird726 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgabrielson473 they have 2 first round picks, 5 in the first 3 rounds. They have a deep prospect pool. Now they have cap space this year and able to protect more players. So, I disagree. The can sign Kaprisov, Fiala, Bonino and Cole.

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

@@redbird726 oh yeah sign more shit players like bonino. Btw, they only have the cap space this year. After that its gone. Anyone they bring in this year will have to go.

@Ambrosia277 2 жыл бұрын

Hey look!

@Unscheduledsandwich 2 жыл бұрын

Cap hell if the wild don’t win in the next few …. Yikes .

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

We have to win next year or not at all. Its literally a one year cap saver...

@darrensmith9035 2 жыл бұрын

Those contracts were going to put them in cap hell one way or another.

@HunterMagunter 2 жыл бұрын

Hey look

@tho0505 2 жыл бұрын

"we know it's going to be difficult".... Yeah exactly.... 12 14 14 in dead cap space after next season. 18% of your cap to have players not play for you. Just idiotic. I made fun of the Leafs and how they're having to do salary cap gymnastics....

@jackpulley5425 Жыл бұрын

Suter and Parise were cancers in the locker room, forcing guys to practice in Edina and not allowing young guys to have a say in the locker room were what caused this move. Suter and praise had too big of an ego to take a trade, This move looks better everyday.

@hockeymike333 2 жыл бұрын

Front loading contracts needs to end. Very few players should be getting 6-8 year contracts, but all the teams are now doing it to reduce the annual salary hit the first few years.... I understand injuries and things happen, but these teams need to be held more to upholding contracts, maybe by retaining more of the salary even when bought out. They're trying to get more cap space than is allowed by distributing it over more years, very few plan on holding them, and then buying out just turns it into a salary cap bypass for the first few years of these long contracts, you could fit an extra few depth players on the roster doing it. This concept makes a joke of the current salary cap, and is obviously a problem when almost all teams are now playing that game because they almost have to when the others are.

@kurtwpg 2 жыл бұрын

That's the thing. If you've already been the general manager for 3 years, and you sign a guy to an 8 year frontloaded contract with big signing bonus numbers in the final years, you'll probably be gone before the contract becomes a problem.

@MNWildFan57 2 жыл бұрын

Well these contracts are not BG’s doing. They happened 2 gms ago.

@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan Жыл бұрын

My guy…you want the Wild to be penalized MORE!? This isn’t cap circumvention. This is perfectly legal calculated risk and quite frankly wise asset management. Next few seasons could be rough, but this was necessary from a cap management perspective. There weren’t many other options either when you factor in all the details to this situation ie cap recapture penalties if they retire early. They upheld the contracts through over half their term and then decided to terminate them and pay the hefty buyout penalty to do so. Seems fair, no?

@hockeymike333 Жыл бұрын

@@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan I'm in no way implying the Wild are doing anything wrong, as this is all the meta now. It's just not the best path for the league to start going down. If cap space needs to be raised so be it. I know the NHLPA has about 2 years left on the league debt and will probably raise then, but until then the grey areas of salary cap are being abused and yes some teams are paying for their gambles and others are cashing in. I'd hope the buyouts would have more impact on cap after so team's wouldn't be so whimsical with these types of contracts as it's usually just the team owners paying a lump sum buyout. Teams not in the running are finding some good deals lately because of it though.

@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan Жыл бұрын

@@hockeymike333 that’s fair. I agree it’s not the best path for the league to go down, especially since we’ve already seen teams exploit some cap loopholes recently. I think I kinda misunderstood what you were saying, my bad.

@anthonymackay3788 2 жыл бұрын

"we want to give Kaprizov a Mcdavid contract and didn't have room. Too bad Kap is too smart for fall for it

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

Worst move possible to make! Their cap hits come back in a year and then you are paying for bottom of the barrel guys to play in place of suter and parise! We got rid of our best centers for guys to play wing, we have gotten rid of 3 captains, we plan on keeping dumba-ss, and we are going to be in cap hell after one year of relief. Wtf are you fucking thinking guerin? This doesn't help at all! You can't seriously tell me that paying some guy 700,000k in a year to be a 3rd pairing or a healthy scratch is somehow better than having suter back there. You fucking can't justify this at all. If you can't sign fiala and kaprizov with 16 million in cap space already, when thats all the cap space you will have next year, what are you even fucking doing???

@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan Жыл бұрын

These comments are hilarious

@dogsnhockeyminnesota8584 2 жыл бұрын

Stalock and now parise? Now who should be my favorite wild player?

@victoriapark6795 2 жыл бұрын

Idk maybe some rising star from Russia

@dogsnhockeyminnesota8584 2 жыл бұрын

@@victoriapark6795 other than kaprizov I meant, because he might not stay with the wild

@braindisorder5043 2 жыл бұрын

@@dogsnhockeyminnesota8584 Did you really think that?🤣

@dogsnhockeyminnesota8584 2 жыл бұрын

@@braindisorder5043 I said that when we weren’t sure if kaprizov was going back to Russia or not (it was late offseason)

@braindisorder5043 2 жыл бұрын

@@dogsnhockeyminnesota8584 bro.. that was just a joke.. but i know its easy to sell🤣

@DJWillyGMPLS 2 жыл бұрын

Unless they plan on adding something for this year for the cap room I don’t see why

@eriklakeland3857 2 жыл бұрын

Get a good center to play with Kaprizov. Shoot maybe even take a swing at Eichel

@pilar9247 2 жыл бұрын

They have 26 million in cap space. It's going to be spent

@genscolberg6557 2 жыл бұрын

We would be better off giving Seattle the Wild and we will take the expansion draft.....(sarcasm)

@genscolberg6557 2 жыл бұрын

@DragonHeero exactly! Of course this is Minnesota.....we are used to it... haha

@marknieuwejaar1075 2 жыл бұрын

Times a changin... long term contracts are about to be a thing of the past... Players think their all that @ what... forty lol...35 lol...even a thirty year old can barely keep up to a rookie these days so wow i feel for Minnie...

@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan Жыл бұрын

Wake up call for those 2. I own both of their jerseys and was a fan of what they did for this franchise when they were here, but it was time for them to go. The Wild will be better for this in the long run.

@spencerbrady6791 2 жыл бұрын

He’s a piece of work. Look at him slash his rookie teammate in the neck during practice: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6eVg5qItdfUXYE.html

@justinmercado6515 2 жыл бұрын

Eichel to MN?

@djembejambi 2 жыл бұрын

Try to sign kaprisoz

@justinmercado6515 2 жыл бұрын

These guys played us so tough last year they aren’t far away

@lukasburrington3056 2 жыл бұрын

@DragonHeero 35-16-5 and a playoff series that went to game 7 against one of the most stacked teams in the NHL doesn’t sound like a losing team to me

@kipbarnhill8848 2 жыл бұрын

I dont get why people like this. This should have never got to this point. Do your job and find a way to get rid of them without losing 15% of your cap for 3 years. Had a chance to trade zach last year and they could have traded suter this year.

@victoriapark6795 2 жыл бұрын

There was no way to get rid of them without giving up assets of the future! This is hard but the right move

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

@@victoriapark6795 guess what, we will still have to give up assets because we won't be able to sign or keep guys when their contracts are up because we will be paying more in 2022 and 2023 to just fill in roster spots than if we kept them! Between their salaries along with the guys they bring in, it will cost more after this season to have guys who aren't parise or suter.

@Acal51 2 жыл бұрын

We also bought 2 protection slots with this buyout

@travzimmerman1340 2 жыл бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 Not entirely true as the cap will SURELY go up over the next 4 years and you can move dead cap to others teams in deals it literally happens every year.

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

@@Acal51 could have asked them to waive their no movement clauses, which guerin didn't even ask them to do so.

@michaelrudd1927 2 жыл бұрын

So in the "6-8 month process" his words he never brought up them waiving their NMCs? If they can help a team get creative bring in a third team to make the salaries even less. Both guys are still worth 25% of their deals and the Islanders almost trade for Parise last year. This just screams I couldn't figure this problem out so easiest solution. 🤦‍♂️

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

He is seriously a dumbass. He says he is trying to win but then got rid of our best centers, for guys who ended up being 3rd and 4th line wings or healthy scratches. He now gets rid of our best playoff performer in parise, and our best defensive defenseman in order to keep dumba-ss. He put us in cap hell. He said this helps us down the road. How exactly is that when their caps come back literally one year later! If we bring in boldy, rossi and one other guy, along with keeping fiala and kaprizov at 8 million per, which is not enough for kaprizov apparently, then that would put you with 14 guys and only 7 million left in cap space roughly... btw one of those contracts up after next year is kahkonnen's. I would much rather not lose him.

@kurtwpg 2 жыл бұрын

Right now they each lost $3.33 million dollars TOTAL for the next 4 years, and can sign with whoever they want. Tell me why you would waive your NMC instead of forcing this buyout?

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

@@kurtwpg because then you don't have to move your family and there is no guarantee you get to sign anywhere else at enough money to make up what you lost.

@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan Жыл бұрын

Three words: *Cap Recapture Penalties*

@michaelrudd1927 Жыл бұрын

@@FriendlyNeighboorhoodWildFan both still playing and Suter’s contract ends the same year his previous 1 would have. So Dallas was ok paying 3.65 million not exactly 50% of his old deal but get a third team involved and you have a 4 mil penalty vs 6.3 7.3 and 7.3 million. Parise maybe but still the Islanders were interested in trading for him before they acquired Palmieri so that's also on the Wild management not making that deal happen.

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

All of this is a bunch of b.s.

@mikecampbell7841 2 жыл бұрын

Back peddle Bill, you should pack your bags along with them. I hope you learned something from this.Stop paying stupid money!! Minor league players to replace established veterans?? All athletes are WAY overpaid.

@seanharrison6719 2 жыл бұрын

You realize it was Fletcher who made the insane deal not him?

@dprowelldpr 2 жыл бұрын

@@seanharrison6719 Exactly it was Fletcher's dumb deal that BG is having to fix. They were too old at the time of those deals. It was going to be painful on the back end of those contracts and here we are.

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

What this does is makes us the maple leafs but instead of 4 guys, we have 2 guys playing with almost 50% of our cap space gone. You fucked up big time guerin. We are going to be relying on young guys to win us games for all kaprizov's best years! This is fucked! No team has won a cup relying on a bunch of guys on rookie contracts!

@binnins1982 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao! Thats funny. Did you forget how stacked the team is with a young Dcore?

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

@@binnins1982 young? Spurgeon is 31, dumba is a liability, brodin is 28, dumba and soucy are both 26. How exactly is that young? Thats all the defense they have signed!

@binnins1982 2 жыл бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 addison,mennel,beckman, and a few others i cant think of off the top of my head. Plus we have loads of picks this year too.

@JarradBruessel32 2 жыл бұрын

@@binnins1982 only addison has played some hockey in the nhl. You are telling me we are going to win with a bunch of young guys with no real experience? Why don't we just change our name to maple leafs 2.0 then?

@binnins1982 2 жыл бұрын

@@JarradBruessel32 and when would the ever get the chance to play and prove them selves with the old guard? Guess we will find out what some of these kids can do. We wouldnt have enough cap room to sign anyone with suter and parise on the books. Do we just let every young player not play or leave and go some place else?

@swerve951 2 жыл бұрын

thank phuck ....about time...never feel sorry for multi millionaire's ,still a bunch of scrub's to get rid of and that tiny spurgeon

@hunterlahti6342 2 жыл бұрын

Ok....

@toxicwaters6885 2 жыл бұрын

buying out suter makes 0 sense lmao.

@jackpulley5425 Жыл бұрын

Still have that thought bud?

@guystlouis9328 2 жыл бұрын

guerin was bought out now he can be thrown out

@guystlouis9328 2 жыл бұрын

by the way who actually wants to play in democrat held minneapolis the squad

@Ben_05 2 жыл бұрын

The Wild play in St.Paul dumbass

@josephmcauley7605 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ben_05 Correct but the point is mute, cities are absolute shitholes. I love living in rural America. I'd still live in the suburbs but anyone who willingly lives in a city without wads of cash isn't very bright. Imagine paying upwards of 4k a month on an 80k salary.