Full Review: NB 1080v13 | I'm Excited Guys

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Run Like Heller

Run Like Heller

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@siquanwu3131
@siquanwu3131 11 ай бұрын
NB is killing it at the moment❤
@dheitz5830
@dheitz5830 11 ай бұрын
That colorway is amazing. If they made a grey with the vintage midsole I'd buy 35 pairs of them.
@robertorgan274
@robertorgan274 11 ай бұрын
We have been waiting for you to talk to us about this one and you didn't disappoint. Great review.
@apollovizsla
@apollovizsla 9 ай бұрын
I have a lot of trouble finding shoes with a roomy toe box so I ordered a few to try and am returning the shoes that did not work for me. I returned the Brooks Ariel 20. I am returning the Hoka Clifton 9. I just tried the New Balance 1080v13 and absolutely love them! I think they have more cushion than the Hoka Clifton 9. I went to the Asics factory outlet store, to try the Asics Gel Nimbus 25. I always liked the look of the Asics but the toe box was always too tight for me, even in the wide size. The Asics Gel Nimbus 25 was very comfortable to me. The store also had a buy one pair, get the second pair 50% off and a coupon for another 10% off, so I bought two pair which came to $108.00 a pair! I just wish they made a round toe box with a little more width.
@Frichilsasta08
@Frichilsasta08 11 ай бұрын
What a great time to be a runner. So many great options from every company...from the boston 12 to the speed 3 to the nike alphafly...take my money take my money take my money
@Adrianf2023
@Adrianf2023 11 ай бұрын
Here again, the Argentinian, the other time I said in one of your videos that I thought the nimbus were better than the 1080, which I was wrong about, and I'm here to agree with you, because I went to buy the nimbus and when I tried them on, they were too tight and too big. Quite the opposite of the new 1080, which are very comfortable and light. In the end, I bought the new 1080 v12 and now you are getting the v13 hahaha, you are a genius and thank you very much for your videos and advice, I am going for my first marathon in Buenos Aires. 42 k so later I will tell you about my first experience, greetings and finisher hug
@CSRunner7
@CSRunner7 11 ай бұрын
Very exciting to see this! Would be very interested for a head to head against the Triumph to work out which is the most versatile daily cushioned trainer.
@Martin-kc1xj
@Martin-kc1xj 11 ай бұрын
+1 on this! I'm replacing my 880s by the end of the year with something more cushioned now that I have speed day shoes (Rebels V3, LOVE them), and I'm down to 1080s or Triumphs. I was leaning towards Triumphs but the v13 looks like it might keep me in the NB world.
@CSRunner7
@CSRunner7 11 ай бұрын
@@Martin-kc1xj I like NB but Triumph gets such consistently rave reviews from everyone and seems quite light so I’m thinking that’s the way to go for me. 1080 maybe sounds slightly bit softer less responsive? More towards just easier days?? 🤷‍♂️
@sagadg1
@sagadg1 11 ай бұрын
​@@CSRunner7I have both V12 and Triumph. The ride on the V12 is much smoother to me and you can definitely pick up the speed if needed. Triumph is a bit bouncier for sure, but I don't feel as comfortable picking up pace in them at all as they feel clunky to me. I think all of this is personal preference though really.
@Frichilsasta08
@Frichilsasta08 11 ай бұрын
Comes down to 6mm vs 10mm
@dimitar297
@dimitar297 11 ай бұрын
The 880 is very similar to the Gradient X from Kin that came out around 2020. But it's $600 cheaper.
@dmanrunning57
@dmanrunning57 10 ай бұрын
I have three pairs of shoes that I rotate right now. My main daily trainer is the 880v13. I also use the SC trainer v2 for long runs and recovery. I have the Rebel v3 as well and mainly use it for my faster workouts, intervals and 5K's. When I bought the 880's I also tried the 1080v12 and while a bit more cushony, the 880's felt better and had more response in toe off. I'm curious to see how the new version of the 1080 is compared to the v12. One other comment about New Balance. Of all the shoes out there, NB fits me the best. I ahve wide feet but also have mortons neuroma. NB is one of the few companies that have many width options, even in their race day shoes unlike other brands. Great reviews by the way!
@movdqa
@movdqa 11 ай бұрын
I've migrated from the 1080 to the 880 for daily trainer due to cost and outsole wear but I'm always interested in this line as it is a good recovery shoe along with the More. The thing I liked most about the 1080v12 was that it is wider than true-to-size. I always have to size up for shoes that are true-to-size because TTS isn't wide enough for me.
@MomtoZnE
@MomtoZnE 11 ай бұрын
Same. That might be why I love the V12’s so much. I wear the 2E. Wides usually aren’t wide enough for me.
@Terence_317
@Terence_317 9 ай бұрын
I’m excited for these as I own the 1080 v12 version in just ordered the all black pair today wide size 16
@janalaughlin2197
@janalaughlin2197 9 ай бұрын
I’ve never tried a new Balance shoe and after listening to your review of v12 and v13 and was going to buy these shoes. I found they changed the drop changed from 8mm to 6mm. :(. Not ideal for my high arch. Also, just fyi for others, I bought the triumph 21 after listening to your review and others’ and was disappointed to find I got the same pain as I did from the Ride 14 under my left metatarsal area just from walking. Never even was able to run in them. Such a shame because the triumph arrived this week and what a beautiful shoes. My right foot was thrilled! So far glycerin 20 and nimbus 24 have been working so we’ll see what I think of the nimbus 25! Good luck again with your NYC marathon!
@cwalker1569
@cwalker1569 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I am not a Nimbus 25 fan but will give it a look.
@davidbraswell1481
@davidbraswell1481 11 ай бұрын
I am definitely a New Balance guy and can't wait for this to hit the store it will be mine!!!!! So Excited!!!!!
@wildforthecats661
@wildforthecats661 11 ай бұрын
Will have to check it out when it hits the local brick and mortar running store.
@der_sascha
@der_sascha 11 ай бұрын
thank you very much for this review i am exiting to test them next week at a shakeout run bevore the Berlin Marathon
@danielburton6221
@danielburton6221 11 ай бұрын
Yes love the 1080 line up
@matthiassventoest6800
@matthiassventoest6800 11 ай бұрын
big fan on the 1080.., I ran in the 10.., and I have the 12 ., though I have yet to run in it.., I got the permafrost version on the cheap.., for the winter running season.
@davidbraswell1481
@davidbraswell1481 11 ай бұрын
I really hope that blue is in men's as well I absolutely love my Ice blue SCT v2 also !!!!!!!
@yuhchaichew9628
@yuhchaichew9628 11 ай бұрын
Great video and thanks, still running with V11 and SC trainer. Looking forward to this new V13👍🏻👍🏻
@ianlowe4126
@ianlowe4126 11 ай бұрын
Looks good but can’t see it getting ahead of my Triumph 20’s which are so 5/5 that just bought second pair @£75 here in 🇬🇧. Always enjoy your videos though. Thanks 😊
@garry9588
@garry9588 11 ай бұрын
Hi Em. The shoe looks quite interesting. I'm a bit cautious after buying the previous version which was uneventful. The best NB show ever I believe they said.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Idk if this is the best shoe ever by them. I’d say that’s the sc trainer v1. But I do think this is the best 1080 ever
@expatadventureturkey9324
@expatadventureturkey9324 11 ай бұрын
It’s going to be interesting to see how this differs between the Asics Gel Nimbus 25, currently my go to for easy pace mile “recovery runs”….hint bring on the Versus 😉🤙🏽
@VietBotPDX
@VietBotPDX 11 ай бұрын
i use Altra for my dailies :) though i'm happy to see New Balance doing good too
@charlesjolley700
@charlesjolley700 11 ай бұрын
6mm drop! Love that
@liampokharel1084
@liampokharel1084 9 ай бұрын
we need a comparison between this and the novablast 4 asap
@FrazCollett-Gorton
@FrazCollett-Gorton Ай бұрын
I’d love to see a comparison between the 1080 v13 and the new More v4 once it’s released in August!
@Drew.Whitcomb
@Drew.Whitcomb 11 ай бұрын
Great review. Thanks Emily!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Drew!
@pbnotj1
@pbnotj1 11 ай бұрын
Yay ! I had v12 and liked half size down upper and fit overall but midsole wasn’t special for me and sounds like really improved everything .
@christiandm1041
@christiandm1041 11 ай бұрын
Good morning Emily 🙂 🏃‍♀️...there's a lot to like about what NB is doing these days. Wasn't long ago that I didn't consider them a running option for me...definitely do now!
@dimitar297
@dimitar297 11 ай бұрын
Really? How have they changed over the last ten years or so compared with other brands?
@Burps___
@Burps___ 11 ай бұрын
Adore NB 1080s V 11 and 12. Perfect rocker! 💙 #NewBalance This new one looks flat-footed like the despicable “dead fish” NB More. 😔 #RunLikeHeller mentions this…I’d better jump on more 11s and 12s while I can. 👟
@jasonproctor9896
@jasonproctor9896 11 ай бұрын
I loved the v10. The v11 was awful to me. I have thoroughly enjoyed the v12. I'm pretty excited for the v13 I've always been a believer in new balance and I'm definitely going to grab this one
@Bart0vds
@Bart0vds 11 ай бұрын
what we really need to know, what is the best: rebel, 1080, more v3, propel. It seems to me they are the same
@moyolenovo3914
@moyolenovo3914 11 ай бұрын
I have already tried them today in a local store. It was a sample without even size information on them. Only ss inside. There were only two pairs. Triple black and red with yellowish midsole. I ran a couple of steps as well as in More V4, 1080 v12 and SC elite. And I might say 1080 v 13 are the softest and comfiest among all of them even though they were half a size small for me. They also a bit more narrow then 1080 V12 in midsole what reminds me of Pegasus. And comparing to my firm bricks NB More V3 it's a true blessing to run long miles in.
@Frichilsasta08
@Frichilsasta08 11 ай бұрын
Bouncy like the novablast but soft like the nimbus? Seems like a great combination
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I’d say it has a ways to go before it’s bouncy like the novablast but it’s bouncier than the Nimbus for sure
@charriso
@charriso 11 ай бұрын
Excited to try this one! Only thing is what's up with that colorway?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Ehh it’s not my favorite but they have better ones coming
@cfreeze3691
@cfreeze3691 11 ай бұрын
I’m still running in my V11 haha. I was going to go for v12 for the lower price I think
@jean-pierosgriccia4520
@jean-pierosgriccia4520 11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure. I love my Supercom trainer. So far colors do not excite me. I bought for the same price. Adidas boston 12. I know it's a different shoe. I have the more v4 when I need a cushy recovery run...
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
That’s fair. I think the 1080 is more versatile though. Not just for easy stuff but that’s what I like to use it for
@kevinscott4938
@kevinscott4938 11 ай бұрын
Actually enjoyed the Propel v4. But my heart is with the New Balance Beacon. Wish they would bring that as a v4 😭 £160 for a daily trainer….this one will have to wait till it gets discounted.
@bcockton
@bcockton 11 ай бұрын
You might like the tempo v2; much softer than v1 and a great ground feel.
@kevinscott4938
@kevinscott4938 11 ай бұрын
@@bcockton I’ve found the Hoka Rincon v3 pretty similar tbh
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Wow throwback!
@sorus888
@sorus888 11 ай бұрын
The 1080 was in my wathchlist because, I looking for more plush daily trainer for my easy run to complement my mach x and winter is coming.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
This would be a great companion to Mach x
@user-pm1mm6xr7g
@user-pm1mm6xr7g 11 ай бұрын
The colorway is similar with Nike Invincible 3's
@danieltay1052
@danieltay1052 11 ай бұрын
How is your new favorite 1080v13 vs your old favorite, More v4, especially on the cushion and impact protection?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
This is actually softer yet lower to the ground. I do love the More v4 but I find this 1080 more versatile, so I’d probably pick this
@maverickgoose4679
@maverickgoose4679 11 ай бұрын
Seems like a good competitor to the clifton 9....
@bizziebone05
@bizziebone05 9 ай бұрын
could someone run their first full marathon in these? no hard target in terms of goal time, just wanna finish as comfortably as possible lol thanks Emily!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!
@bizziebone05
@bizziebone05 9 ай бұрын
@@RunLikeHeller thanks for responding! I haven't broken mine in yet but I seemed to have volunteered them for the role, haha
@ramirezsmith9791
@ramirezsmith9791 11 ай бұрын
Great review…!!!!! How about a comparison of the brooks ghost max vs the NB 1080 13????!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Working on it!
@manueltan8962
@manueltan8962 11 ай бұрын
Sorry I missed you, I was there ! =(
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Darn!
@lisahughes6313
@lisahughes6313 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have even considered this shoe due to my experience with v12. The gusseted tongue had such a large seam which constantly rubbed the top of my foot. Have they fixed that issue on the v13? If so, I will definitely try a pair due to your amazingly detailed review. Thanks Emily!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I don’t have that issue with the tongue so you might be in luck!
@saldinife
@saldinife 10 ай бұрын
Hi Heller, I'm a one pair of shoes kind of person. Do you think this could be a good all rounder daily trainer? I'm not training for any race, but I like to pick up the pace for fun sometimes. Looking for good energy return, something a bit exciting/fun, not too wobbly and with a bit a cushion on the forefoot (mid to forefoot striker). If not this one, would you have any suggestions for me? Thank you so much for all your videos, I'm a big fan :)
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 10 ай бұрын
This is a good option but if you want something with a little more energy return I’d suggest maybe the Supercomp trainer v2 for days you want to pick up the pace. I’ve done all kinds of runs in that shoe and it works pretty well
@elliotendures
@elliotendures 11 ай бұрын
How’s the stability? I struggled a bit with the More V4 in that regard.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
1080 is lower to the ground so you might have some better luck with that. It doesn’t feel like you’re sitting on top of a platform like you may have felt with the More
@q20a08
@q20a08 11 ай бұрын
I thought the More V3 was fairly stable (orthotic added). But some people apparently found them too firm. I would like to see something in the line-up resembling a very stable 'wide footprint' offshoot of the V3. I'm thinking that the 'More V5' itself will likely lean too squishy-soft for my preference. That is the overpowering popular trend, after all.
@LuisRamos-qw1gj
@LuisRamos-qw1gj 11 ай бұрын
Get the V12. 50% off ATM!
@janalaughlin2197
@janalaughlin2197 10 ай бұрын
What’s the drop please. Thanks! Love your reviews!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 9 ай бұрын
6mm drop but don’t have the exact measurements
@samkovalchik5655
@samkovalchik5655 11 ай бұрын
Great review! How would you compare the 1080 v13 to the cloudsurfer 7? I was kind of looking into either one as a daily trainer based upon the reddit reviews and this one.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Cloudsurfer is lighter and probably has a little more bounce. This one is a little bit thicker in upper/midsole but it has more cushion
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 11 ай бұрын
I’m wearing the Cloudsurfer while watching this (on the TM) and love it so much I probably don’t need another 1080 though I enjoyed v12 in the past.
@samkovalchik5655
@samkovalchik5655 11 ай бұрын
@@levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 I personally did not enjoy the v11 or v12... I've ran in all of the previous iterations of the 1080 from the first one that NB put out back in 2011. This one looks more versatile, but the price between this and the cloudsurfer are similar... I'll have to try it out in store once it is released. Thank you for the replies guys!
@philipdumont2286
@philipdumont2286 10 ай бұрын
The cloudsurfer is a lot better than my R4 ,1280v11. 10times better upper, lighter as comfortable...my new go to shoe
@jp_salas
@jp_salas 11 ай бұрын
Emily, love your videos! I have one question: What camera do you use to record your runs? What settings do you use for it? fps? resolution? exposure compensation? Keep up your GREAT work!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I will look at my settings and get back to you but I believe it’s a GoPro hero 9 or 10 on an extendable selfie stick. Highest fps it has which I think is 240fps. Other settings are standards haven’t touched exposure or anything like that
@FoxBox72
@FoxBox72 11 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of all your videos, but with this one I guess we have to keep in mind that you (and believe in the run) are being supported by New Balance at the moment.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
You really don’t though. If I didn’t like a shoe I would say it. We’re under no obligation to hype a shoe that we aren’t hype about. Take sc trainer v2 for example. I enjoy the shoe, but note that I’ve said several times I think version 1 was way better.
@michaeldominic2070
@michaeldominic2070 11 ай бұрын
My experience with NB sizing is I'm true to size in their Fuelcell shoes, and need to go half size down in their fresh foam shoes...Any recommendations? Should I go with my same size in the More v4?
@Thomlabe
@Thomlabe 11 ай бұрын
My more 4 is true to size.
@michaeldominic2070
@michaeldominic2070 11 ай бұрын
@@Thomlabe maybe for you, not for me
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I would go with your same size in the more v4
@i.p2088
@i.p2088 11 ай бұрын
Like me I am TTS is SC Elite V3 and SC Trainer V2 but need to go down half a size in the 1080V12.
@melindareiner9908
@melindareiner9908 11 ай бұрын
Love the colorway. What's the stability level for a neutral shoe? This upper looks the same as the upcoming Vongo v6. Why would New Balance put the same upper on a neutral shoe and one that is stability based?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I think the upper isn’t what makes a shoe stability really. It’s more about the midsole components but that being said I think this upper held my foot nicely. It’s still a neutral shoe so I overpronated a bit but it wasn’t bad at all!
@jacobsebastien3910
@jacobsebastien3910 10 ай бұрын
What is better for a comfortable everyday shoe New Balance 880v13 are 1080v 13?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 10 ай бұрын
1080 for me all the way
@chrismogridge1
@chrismogridge1 11 ай бұрын
Hi Emily, would you say that the fresh foam is getting closer to the cushy feel of the fuel cell? I'm a supercomp trainer V1 tragic like you but I'm hoping the new 1080 would be a good daily trainer for my partner that doesn't want the carbon fibre plate of a super shoe.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say it feels like fuelcell really. It’s still a lot softer with more give. That being said, I do feel like it’s a good training companion to the sc trainer. It’s more pillowy so I’ve been using it for easy days
@jalex9104
@jalex9104 11 ай бұрын
Invincible run vibes….
@montebeerbower7796
@montebeerbower7796 11 ай бұрын
Would you choose this over the new balance pro comp trainer v2? I have been running in the hoka Mach 4 and 5 for all my runs. I'm 60 and not fast but can't find a replacement with little more tread and comfort.
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Sc trainer over this shoe for sure
@montebeerbower7796
@montebeerbower7796 11 ай бұрын
@@RunLikeHeller Thank you!!! You have a wonderful weekend!!
@jamesb.walker9177
@jamesb.walker9177 11 ай бұрын
Is it more stable then last version?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
I think it is yes
@MadLadsAnonymous
@MadLadsAnonymous 9 ай бұрын
How do you feel about this vs the Deviate Nitro 2 for a daily? Which has the better pop, cushion, roll?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 9 ай бұрын
For daily use id probably pick this for the cushion alone. But the deviate nitro is going to have better pop
@MadLadsAnonymous
@MadLadsAnonymous 9 ай бұрын
@@RunLikeHeller Cheers! Was contemplating them for walking & light running. Have narrowed it to the v13 and Vongo V6
@MrMars121
@MrMars121 10 ай бұрын
Great video. What's the stack height?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 10 ай бұрын
6mm 38/32
@maximilianmartins
@maximilianmartins 11 ай бұрын
This is great, Emily! How high is the ankle collar? I feel like my ankle bones are lower and shoes like the FuelCell SC trainer 2 and the Elite 3 rub and press into my ankle bones quite a bit. Had no issues with the ankle collar height in the v12. Any feedback there is appreciated!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
No issues with the ankle collar height here, and I also have that issue in the sc elite v3
@maximilianmartins
@maximilianmartins 11 ай бұрын
thanks, appreciate you! @@RunLikeHeller
@kelsie9912
@kelsie9912 10 ай бұрын
Is the mesh/net down near the toes as stretchy and soft as the V12? I actually didn't buy the V12 because I didn't like how fragile and stretchy the material around the toes felt. I was really hoping the V13 would be back to a firmer material, is it firmer?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 10 ай бұрын
Yes it is a different type of material and firmer in my opinion
@kelsie9912
@kelsie9912 10 ай бұрын
@@RunLikeHeller oh great!! Can’t wait to give them a try when they arrive in stores in Aus then 👍
@damonbonnett6983
@damonbonnett6983 10 ай бұрын
they dont look stable at all and the foam looks too soft!!
@rockbrd1
@rockbrd1 6 ай бұрын
Great video review. Question. I'm a 10.5. Should I get it in a 10.5 wide or just 10.5. Thanks
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 6 ай бұрын
10.5 standard!
@Kaisersozze
@Kaisersozze 11 ай бұрын
This or the Triumph 20/21? Which one is more fun to run in terms of softness and bounce/energy return?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Triumph has more bounce, but isn’t as soft. I like soft. So I’d pick 1080
@Kaisersozze
@Kaisersozze 11 ай бұрын
hmm okay thank you!@@RunLikeHeller
@bilalqadir8922
@bilalqadir8922 11 ай бұрын
@kzhjh9835
@kzhjh9835 11 ай бұрын
is the upper breathable?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Ehhh
@grey_fox7
@grey_fox7 11 ай бұрын
Curious how this compares to the More v4?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
The foam in the 1080 is softer, but there’s less of it so it’s more versatile than more v4
@grey_fox7
@grey_fox7 11 ай бұрын
@@RunLikeHeller which is more stable?
@brainkale
@brainkale 11 ай бұрын
When it comes to running, would you prefer to pay the extra $20 for the SC Trainer v2?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
They’re very different. I think if you’re looking for a more versatile shoe then yes I would pay the extra money and get the sc trainer v2. It can be used for multiple different runs, whereas 1080v13 to me is easy day and long runs. Wouldn’t really use it for a workout.
@brainkale
@brainkale 11 ай бұрын
Thonks!
@paullooper1090
@paullooper1090 6 ай бұрын
Have you experienced any ankle chafing?
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 6 ай бұрын
Nope
@paullooper1090
@paullooper1090 6 ай бұрын
@@RunLikeHeller I experienced chafing with the 2E, I will try D...
@devinarmenti2532
@devinarmenti2532 11 ай бұрын
1080 series with fresh foam x sucks, it's not even soft and squishy, super comp trainer with fuel cell or go home!
@RunLikeHeller
@RunLikeHeller 11 ай бұрын
Different strokes for different folks
@AlexKane_2024
@AlexKane_2024 10 ай бұрын
+
@gsabog
@gsabog 11 ай бұрын
the bigger the logo of any brand, the uglier they get. I'm not a walking billboard
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