Yes charles and heather are the hero's in this story,If only they had been listened to, smh very sad

​@@annettelacey7913How about that? With the Charles, the state basically ignored his ultimate cries for help, he was ignored by the state (police), the state failed him. With Heather, the church failed. She tried raising alarms within the church and Chad's family of the same church. Her warnings were ignored, despite pointing glaringly to how off "scripture" his nonsense was. The church dismissed her. The two most governing entities, state and church both failed the people they are tasked to protect and both failed miserably.

They better listen now .Their more of these crazy people all over world.!Nothing done til it's too late!

Then they say ‘how could we have known?’ Well BECAUSE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO THEM SAID SO! Poor Charles JJ Tylee and Tammy.. they were failed so hard by the system

Chad had believed his beliefs prior to children disappearance. Chad started his own faith even during this time. Really there are millions of LDS people and there are many whom think really weird things. There are people that steal, murder, SA ect. Just in any population of people.

If she did, why didn’t Chud?!? He was the overweight person in that construct. BTW, lawyer as well.

Omg!!! I second that !! He is an Ass !!

PE, Seizures, anemia, light headed/dizzy, arrhythmia, falling down, gained weight... but not asphyxia. Hmmm. Throw everything at the wall & hope something sticks.

Chad Daybell & absolutely delusional & so gross! 😊

​@@marketingsimplifieddon't forget the oils and other natural health products! It was obviously the lavender oil! Ridiculous..

It's true. I also consider Charles, who was desperately seeking help for his wife Lori as she became disconnected from reality.

Prior gets on my very last nerve. He asks a question then won’t let the witness answer!

I can’t watch him. He is not an asset to his client in my opinion. The point he gets across is minimized by his arrogance in my opinion.

Prior calling it HIGH SOCIETY. Give me a break. The time spent on the email topic that really went nowhere, and being admonished by the judge constantly, is draining this trial to the max.

She was in a podcast it was a wonderful guest on HTC

I love Heather! Hidden Gem interview!

Love her! Excellent witness!

Yes, she saw through his lies and let him know his teachings were false

Yup! Chud did NOT pass the sniff test. She knew, apparently about the Daybell family in general, that their presence in Rexburg would be very disruptive to her family. Then they moved 1/2 mile away from her home. 😫 Sounds like Heather had the discernment Chud pretended to have. Gross.

I loved how the court had to clarify “pot stirrer”.

Apparently the Daybell dad is a piece of garbage, exactly as smug and arrogant about women and in her interview she said to this day he’s not been apologetic about his behavior towards her.

Amen

Heather would have suddenly died had this continued. She HAS to be the darkest according to the Daybell scale.

Yep.... Heather is dark....maybe she's the darkest zombie ever known if chud had his way! Go Heather; thanks for instilling faith in folks who do the right thing.

The chandler police department dropped the ball for Charles Vallow had his request for help been taken seriously the kids could have been saved along with Charles. Thank goodness Chad didn’t destroy his brother Matt’s family by going after Heather once he deemed Heather as dark. Entire case is disturbing.

​@hopemags9642 I feel there will never be justice for poor Charles and that makes me livid.

true

If anyone was a pot stirrer, it was Chad!

It like to gossip

Pot sister is my new favorite term

i thot she said *_pot stirrer._*

"Are you talkin' to me? Cuz I'm the only one here." Thanks

For sure. I hope Heather’s father-in-law has apologized to her & her husband.

As the ‘Heather Daybell’ of my husband’s family, believe me, they do not like it! Families that sweep it all under the rug, do not like the person that says something about it!

He thinks he's some sort of martyr. In the throes of non-believers who don't appreciate his visions and "wisdom". Thinks he's being shunned for the "cause". 🤮

And lets not forget Charles

They never thought they'd get caught. He predicted the world would end before then, and they could gather their 144k. That date came and went while they were in jail (or maybe just when Lori was in jail. I can't remember the exact date)

"You can't hold hands with the devil and walk with the Lord." 💝

Well said

Could just take your crazy to another town, Chad, thanks. Have a nice cult.

I think Chad would have unaLived Heather to try and gain àccess to that house and land.He Probably thought he could manipulate his younger brother.I believe if it didn't work, they ( the family) would have been in danger.

Chad can't take no for an answer

I don’t believe Chad had any problem with unaliving anyone that stood in his way. No one, because Chad believed already he was a god on earth and could do whatever he pleased. He probably had everyone color coded and numbered according to his Zombie Scale. One.sick.human. Controlled by Satan! Cult.Much!!!

Chad is a puke.

Uhm...Jimmy Hendrix

Not the same with Jimi. Hendrix CAUSE of death was CHOKING, (vomiting was the reason for the choking). . MANNER of death accidental. So sad. Chud is making it sound like vomiting caused her death. Not happening, nope.

It technically can happen, but it's clearly BS here.

I wonder if the jury has the same reaction to Prior as myself. What is the men/women make up of the jury?

​@@Rob-sk1imThat was brought on by drugs though

Yes that is extremely weird someone coming to your property and saying what his plans are for property that is not even has

Heather sensed the danger in Chad before Chad moved to live near Heather, Heather being a problem to Chad his whole life, well done Heather you could have been next

​@Francis-xl2gu I'm willing to bet you're correct about her being seen as a threat, and a possible target at some point, especially if she'd continued to question what was going on. I thought she did really well as a witness!

He’s at least mentally holding onto the storm because he’s afraid she’s going to hurt it or take it away. He’s always been afraid of women who are smarter than him and unafraid to call him on his BS.

GOOD, Finally hes scared😮

As he should be…. A dammed coward

It is very hard to see anything with the screen in 4 parts. Idaho needs to look at how Florida does court tv

@@catsj1767 the only way judge would allow cameras in courtroom im thankful for it

Jury won’t like his attitude

I hope Prior and Chud get their a// handed to them at the end of trial.

And no concern that she is recovering from a very serious surgery.

He was sooo rude to her. She did a lot better than me to keep her cool.

She is very smart and knows Chad and previously Prior.

She is a a Mormon though, not Christian

There were several others that stood up and were not listened to. Charles, Brandon, Adam, among others. Yes, Heather seems to have been upright in this and kept her intuition intact. But there were many that rang the alarm.

@@salemthorup9536 ohh yes you’re right. Ugh you must excuse me, I get so excited especially with this case. Thank you for the reminder 🙏

For sure: if you come, dont move into our neighborhood 😅😅😅 and stay the frack away from our ward!

Taking notes

The “ storm” was the only thing on his mind! 🤢

He wasn't being ruled by his head though was he !!!

Apparently he convinced his children to believe him and they accepted Lori. Maybe they have come to their senses. We'll see.

His stupidity outweighed his narcissism at times

Well, if it was up to his family, he would’ve

I think it was more Pot stirrer = calls out bullchit...but yours is right also!

Truly. I'm so proud of her and I've never even met her. She is a hero even if no one listened before it was too late.

Prior - “I’m computer illiterate. I don’t know anything about your church. It’s all new to me.” Me - rolling my eyes. Such a condescending bully, whose health is in grave risk, as he has obviously gained more than 40 pounds.

@@Orbital-BeeBop how LONG can he convince us that he doesn’t know anything after how many years of working on this case? I’m certain he knew the “Relief Society” isn’t the “High Society” that was a passive aggressive insult to Heather. He’s awful. Oh… and if I hear him say “okay” one more time I’m gonna bust a gut.

​@@RobbieJayOnejust for the fact he's from that same area which is heavily populated by LDS church members makes me question his "I don't know anything about Mormons"

​@@RobbieJayOnethat was a passive agress8ve insult to Heather. I believe he watched her interview. She talks about Chad being jealous of her husband's success and how he wrote in one of his books that he chose not to get degrees or be successful so he could stay 'poor and humble'. That "high society" was Prior saying to Heather that she caused trouble for Chad because she looked down on him for not being as wealthy as her.

CD must have really yanked that sheet so the cold stiff body of Tammy rolled off the bed. 🙄😑

Rolling my eyes

Are you aware of how leadership actually works in the Church and that at any given time, there are thousands of women around the world in various leadership positions within the Church? Please don't be so quick to judge something you don't understand. The Church does NOT look down on or ignore women and it certainly doesn't condone any of this evil garbage that has taken place!

Good ! His end times are coming smile😊

Chuds days are # & he knows it. He is just "surprised" that all his lies are being found out, by the whole 🌎 > all at once. So , yes he did become famous but for the worst of reasons. Heather has his number ♥️ > 🙏.

He should look uncomfortable.

When doesn't Chad look uncomfortable? LOL He very seldom ever even moves. His eyes dark up down and to each side but a very rarely ever turns his head. Watch what he does with his hands when he has them clasped together. He Hudson's to index fingers together then the next finger and so on until he has them looped together then opens it turns them and says look at the steeple!" He's so scared he can't even move! As he very well should be he knows what's going to happen! His only worry at this point is if he's going to get the death penalty and I'm sure he knows he is!

Heather is a strong woman. She has confronted Chad before. He knows she can see right through him!

The extended interview (in 3 parts) she did on Hidden True Crime was very informative. She’s an incredibly strong woman. Chad was/is very threatened by her. She’s had Chad figured out for years.

Her and Brandon very decent types

Psychopathy is how the brain is wired, I believe. May have a hereditary component.

Good point.

Sure- until the prosecution stops him. The judge isn’t gunna. He will get away with anything the prosecution allows him to.

It won't happen.... but what I'd give to see defendant chud on the stand cross-examined by prior as prosecutor using his snotty-boy treatment we're seeing him giving everyone else.

Nope

And she is a victim as well, lost her sister. Now she has 2 b cross-examined by the lawyer for the murderer

@CJAmara: Define, " bullying." Prior is not bullying anyone. Trials are not a game of patty cake. An aggressive defense is not bullying, and I guarantee that if it was your loved-one in the defense seat, you would be complaining the the defense attorney was not aggressive enough. There is a legal objection called, "badgering the witness." This was never asserted by the prosecutor against Pryor. You belief of Chad's guilt is coloring your perspective on how trials are conducted.

​@@sheilasmith7779prior is bullying heather,He cuts her off everytime she answers,

You mean because she had a modicum of common sense? Okay.

​@@questiannawhat's your problem,your in everyone's comments putting down people, spinner

@@annettelacey7913 I could ask the same of you! Seems YOU'RE the one with a problem since you can't handle disagreeable opinions. GET OVER IT or GET LOST!!! And... *spinner* ? Really? This REALLY shows your level of immaturity. Couldn't you just use the word, "stupid," like I'm about to do with you? You're acting like just another STUPID troll! Isn't it past your curfew??

@@annettelacey7913 Lol, Ally McBeal is the spinner! Stop feigning intelligence, because it's obvious!

lol

She did a 3 part interview on Hidden True Crime channel. It's very informative and interesting.

It’s actually quite easy to see how he was able to get bigger positions in the church despite being a DOPE! He is a man in a made up religion lead my other who do nothing but act like their shit smells like roses.

Especially when he goes “okay” and makes “mhm” sounds as if to communicate doubt and disbelief toward the witness.

From the moment she was born, Tammy was raised to be obedient, to serve men and especially her husband, not to disobey him or doubt his decisions, and generally to follow him wherever he went. The same goes for their children. In the end, Tammy paid for her lifelong slavery with her life.

Precious Charles Vallow might still be alive, as well.❤

Poetic

It is. I grew up in it. Thank goodness my mom and step-dad left when I was young. My father stayed in it and left me and my brother to move to Utah. He said he needed to be with his people. It's a cult for sure.

Spot on!

It is.

it is to everyone's shame that did not support her and listen to her

I am myself I found out the last few years people don't like to hear the truth

Amen

💯

That was my thought exactly

@joyleenpoortier7496: There is no evidence that people listening to Heather would have spared the lives of Charles, Kylie, J.J. or Tammy. And Alex's death was determined to be natural. Let's not get over our skis with speculations. No question that had the church listened to Heather and acted, the church would would have mitigated damage to the church's reputation, and damage to some of its members.

Heather's father-in-law was a coward, who did not want any potential conflict, no matter the principles underlying the "conflict." Weak man.

​@@sheilasmith7779 Alex's death may be determined as natural, but there are many troubling and unexplained circumstances about it. The absence of evidence is not the proof of innocence and the fact that he was so hastily cremated is problematic in itself, since it assured that no second autopsy is possible. The first determination about Tammy's death was that her death was natural too, but the second autopsy proved that wrong, so Alex Cox's official cause of death may be declared as natural, but considering all the circumstances, that cause of death certificate is highly probably as incorrect as Tammy's first one. Outside of it's legality due to impossibility of correction, it is literally worthless.

@gaiagreen2690 However, by the time of Alex's death police and examiners were no longer naive. I'm just unwilling to speculate without evidence. Tammy: Her cause of death was determined without autopsy. A young, healthy woman's sudden death and no autopsy? These autopsy are NOT done because of suspicion; they are done because families and medical professionals want to learn. I wonder If all those on scene knew the Daybells as Mormons, and were themselves Mormons? I'm not suggesting a deliberate cover-up, but rather a bias.

​@@sheilasmith7779Tammy Daybell's death was deemed to be natural causes as well.😅

Prior is an idiot

lol her intelligence is beyond his capacity to deal with so he ends up being the hater

They were subdividing chads land not his brothers.

@@stacy6994 I don’t think that those 79 acres about 15 min drive from Chad’s house belong to Chad. Chad and Tammy did not have financial means to purchase such land. On the other hand, Heather Daybell talked about Matt’s land by the river that Chad tried to get for his tent city.

​@@stacy6994 No, it was NOT Chad's land. His property is quite small and you can see a fence at it's borders from the house. His brother Matt's property however is huge, he and Heather have rivers, streams and woodland on it and it is all recorded and available on multiple videos. The imaginary city of tents that Chad was trying to sell to everyone was on his brother's land. May I ask why you are constantly trying to misrepresent publicly available facts and writing multiple comments in defence of Chad and Pryor? Are you a member of the family or his follower?

Wonder if Chad had plans for his brother and Heather too? We will never know.

It wasn’t Chad’s land. It was Heather and Matt’s land…

Of course he knew what it was. He is trying to bring attention to it and have the jury understand what type of person Heather is. He is trying to discredit her. Every attorney does this to every witness in one way or another.

He knows exactly what it means. He plays dumb quite often, but he's a terrible actor. 😂

And Charles

And, Charles. Both in that had they listened, it might not have ended in mvrd3r, & Charles may not have been mvrd3red by this collection of devils.

Murder!

*Bundy as in TED.

Agree

Only if he would have monetary gain…

It’s probably not a happy vindication. Such a horrible way to confirm her suspicions.

Chad moved he’s crap to her town and destroyed their lives with Heather asking him not to.

Why are the stairs important? Or the house having a second level.

@@sondragramse1770 because prior on Monday tried to make a witness look like she was lying because she mentioned Tami either going up the stairs or down the stairs and prior claimed that the house didn’t have any stairs because it was only a one level home. It’s important because prior is a liar.

@@Tammy_26Irwin But Prior did establish that Munoz' testimony was flawed because in the context in which she used the word, "down" to indicate what Chad had told her, she affirmed it meant, "downstairs," and we know that it is most likely not true since Chad described Tammy as "coughing and vomiting" and there's no where to vomit upstairs. Prior weakened Munoz' testimony by pointing out that the house - and now we know he was referring to the main house WHERE TAMMY AND CHAD'S BEDROOM WAS - was one level. IF Munoz was accurate in her testimony that Chad said Tammy came "DOWN," he could have meant that as "down the hall," which she may have misinterpreted as "down the stairs." However, since Munoz affirmed under cross examination that Chad said, "downstairs," it is understood that would be false since Tammy would not be vomiting upstairs in the loft. Moreover, for you to say, "Prior is a liar," based on his assertion that the Daybell home is a single level residence, is just absurd. It is most likely Prior either forgot about the add-on portion upstairs or didn't consider it part of the main house WHERE TAMMY AND CHAD'S BEDROOM WAS because it didn't have utilities and was used mostly as an extra space for the storage of musical instruments. But that assertion doesn't mean he lied. GROW UP! You sound like a child almost saying, "Liar, liar, pants on fire."

@@questianna if you believe that prior forgot about that add-on when he legally owns that house, you’re the one that needs a reality check not me

@@questianna and because I called him a liar I need to grow up no the fact of the matter is he did lie and he is a liar and guess what I will just call it like I see it JOHN PRIOR IS A LIAR 🤥

That’s a weird general statement….theres so many people in the court you don’t know about

Totally disagree. If not for Kay and Larry, this group of killings might have gotten lost.

There are some others she's great but not the only ones.

@@basicallyno1722 you’re absolutely correct. And I get upset with my husband for his generalizations about people. I was just feeling overwhelmed with admiration for Heather at that moment-she seemed like an exceptional human to me right then. I actually don’t know any of those folks (in court) personally.

Julianna Smith Lyons is my great-grandmother. I know church doctrine, and l like Heather left the church because of the bigotry.

Chad Was excommunicated from LDS

Wow really? Interesting...

​​​@@JoeLene_You remind me to be grateful my mom took us to a church that was open to all ppl. I'm 67 and grew up in the south where segregation was still a thing even tho federal laws banned this. Many churches actually voted not to integrate and based it on their interpretation of scripture. The church also grew with the times accepting gay members and ordained women as pastors. Of us 5 kids...2 are church members, 1 is agnostic and 2 of us don't belong to a church. My own faith grew as the result of seeking help for my alcoholism thru a faith based 12 step program. My upbringing allowed me to easily adapt to choosing my own concept of a Higher Power...important in sobriety. Some Ppl I've met on my journey struggle with this concept bc they feel some guilt "abandoning" a religion they're raised with. I heard someone share in a mtg that they are a recovering alcoholic who is also a recovering southern Baptist 😅. My dad was never a church goer but was always ok with mom taking us bc he believed for us that exposure to church would allow us later to make our personal choices re church attendance and could base part of this on having that experience. My favorite sermon ever I heard at age 12 where the topic was doubt. Our pastor shared that doubt was a good tool for growing faith bc it invited us to study many faiths and explore religions. Enjoyed your post. Being the great grandchild of the founder and leader of Mormonism probably increased your guilt and angst in choosing to leave the church. There is such an emphasis on loyalty and much guilt associated with daring to leave the church bc it dooms you to Hell is the punishment for that. Likely speaking out was very hard for you with such an added burden. Glad u found the strength to leave and carry on. Hope u didn't lose many family or friend connections for your choices.

Or how about shut down completely, that would help

How would you try to win the case for your client. In the USA everyone is entitled to a defense.

@stacy6994 the point that I was trying to make is that it's all an attack on credibility, not whether someone should receive due process

they’re like the amish

Pryor is a defense attorney he treats everyone hostile as it's his position. Go back to the male realtor. Don't say crap that's really untrue.

@@stacy6994he is a prick and he is definitely more harsh to women than men!!!!!😊

​​@@stacy6994 No one is saying anything incorrect here. John Pryor was convicted of and imprisoned for a SA against one of his clients, but managed to keep his licence. He is sometimes aggressive against male witnesses but his treatment of female witnesses for the state is full of blatant misogyny. Pryor is disrespecting Tylee, constantly fat shaming Tammy, sl*t shaming Lori and his questioning of Heather and other female witnesses borders on harrassment. His constant remarks about female bodies, weight, looks, sexuality and behaviour are deeply insulting and denigrating to women. His misogyny has also been discussed in multiple news and TC interviews. There is no need for insults and foul language.

​@@gaiagreen2690Yes!

I heard that Mormons call their religion a "benevolent patriarchy," even though there's no such thing.

when the money stops flowing to them

Can you imagine going to a neighbor let alone a family member to put their property up to help someone they don't even know Why what a sleaze bag

Totally agree! So 💪

Amen.❤ I concur.

maybe she was half off it the bed and after a while the dead body just slid off bed and thud.. i know he’s guilty but that’s just a possibility

HYPERUNSOPHISTICATED Chud's medical common sense is straight out of the 19th-century. I'm surprised he didn't use the words 'vapors' or 'spells' referring to Tammy's condition.

I have theorized that maybe she was killed on the floor and Chad tried to get her back onto the bed and called Garth to help, not wanting to explain why she was on the floor…

It can't.

@@fezcapone2784 but Garth came back from work and found her dead with dad nowhere in sight (probably off celebrating with Lori)

Just imagine it - will we get the shock ending statement like Lori's ? Probably we'll get a vision of his eternity if he receives the death penalty. There's not alot about whether he is a psychopath or not or what he is exactly. That would be interesting

Mr. Prior knows, how devastating this could turn out. Remember, he initially wanted to drop out of this trial, but wasn’t allowed to. If Chud takes the stand, for sure he will blame it all on the witchcraft of his mistress, which won’t work out, since at least, Heather testified he was promoting his weirdo prepper cult stuff years before he even met Blondezilla.

Or Lori.

I just said the same..... imagine chud getting questioned by a snake like prior.

He obviously wouldn’t tell the truth anyway, he never bothered to say he killed and buried the kids in his own backyard when asked where they are.

Who her cares what Chud thinks? Not me