This looks amazing, many so similar to the reasons I got my eCargo bike. The ultimate school run, let's hope we get many more options like this.

Certainly is a vision of a possible future, and a logical enclosed progression from an ebike... They could get more efficiency and speed by adding a nosecone to enclose the front wheel, and tapering the rear to avoid a partial vacuum behind it - nature has already worked out steamlining, so look at tuna and dolphins for inspiration. Still needs more power, a bigger battery and 80mph top speed. A 4 seater inline stretched version would be interesting too.

Looks like the one you test drove doesn't have a UK plate. What is the Carver registered as in UK? I understand we don't have ENV (enclosed narrow vehicle).

The van variant actually makes a lot of sense, as a nippy little urban delivery vehicle. For couriers, pizza delivery, etc.. That sort of thing. As it's a "best of both worlds" solution, between a motorbike and a van. The agility of a bike, but closer to the comfort and safety of a car, with the carry capacity of a (small) van at the back. Paint the company logo on the back. It needs a higher top speed, though. Part of agility isn't just weaving through small gaps, it also involves a bit of over-taking. I'm not thinking any silly top speed there, but just something that ensures you can keep up and over-take in standard urban traffic. A little boost of speed, for when you have to nip past other vehicles. Indeed, I'd double-down on that use case. It's undoubtedly a lot of fun for everyone else, but for small urban deliveries - packages, pizzas, etc. - it's the ideal compromise. Or would be, if it drops the "scooter" mentality and gains a bit of top speed because keeping up with traffic and over-taking it needs that extra boost of speed here and there, I feel. (And, as Robert's guest discussed on a recent Fully Charged Plus, the real way to get these things off the ground is actually to target companies and their "fleets". A city courier company or local food delivery company getting a fleet of these things - with the company logo on the back - zooming around. The agility of a bike delivery, but the comfort and closer to the carry capacity of a car. Maybe have variants where the back "van" section could have some basic refrigeration / keep food warm stuff too - though that would require, I'm sure, a bigger battery.)

Wait till you guys get to see the new leaning Arcimoto...

That might have more to do with the fact that it requires a scooter license. So max speed has to be low. I wonder how the electric version compares to the 50cc scooter?

@@davidlazarus67 I think as its 3 wheels you can drive it on a car licence, well I know you can with those 3 wheeled motorbikes.

@@markreed9853 I do hope so, but it’s not clear. The website has information for Netherlands, which is a scooter license.

​@@davidlazarus67In the US you can get scooters with enough power to do 50mph+. But they may or may not be "legal" for freeway use, depending on state. In California "any scooter with 150cc of displacement or more is legally classified as a “motorcycle” and all motorcycles are freeway legal (see California vehicle code section 400). Any scooter with less than 150cc of displacement is not freeway legal, therefore, even though you still need a motorcycle license to ride a scooter in this class."

27 mph? Needs 35 even to pootle around London if you can't use a bike lane.

Me too! Unfortunately this electric version is too slow. Imagine that I have a scooter Honda PCX150 that even with its claimed 65mi/h top speed it gets pretty inefficient in certain downtown streets. The new 28mi/h electric Carver will have cars streaking by leaving us a feeling of danger and impotence. The old model was another story!

Cushtee!

He who dares, wins! Eh?

I think original reliant would be better

And a blow up doll (or two), in the back!

The cargo was not very smartly designed. Imagine fragile and/or heavy stuff leaning from side to side...

you'd need a much bigger battery, which would reduce the usable space.

ako trike is another upscale option of much the same concept. Very cool stuff.

You'd need motors approaching 8x times more powerful because of the cubic relationship of pushing air out the way for double the speed. A 10kWh battery for the same 50 mile range would allow for 41% more speed if its motors could could handle 2.8x the power.

@@briannugent5518 Nice comment.

Yes mostly the latest update is 50 mph (80 kph) . Perfect for a commute but not great on motorways . Been overtaken by a lorry doing 56 mph to your 50 is not fun or safe. I would love a hybrid version, with 125 cc motorcycle motor and electric motor, so can do 65-70 mph.

Perfect for food deliveries but unfortunately stupid outdated motoring laws get 💯 in the way for busy city centre use.

@@ricbrook7059 Those can be changed and smart local councils are doing just that.

@@dr-k1667 local councils have zero control over UK Traffic laws.

A McDonald's drink (especially hot drinks) wouldn't survive that lean angle unfortunately but for other (sensibly packaged drinks and food) the cargo option does look good.

All its good for is fast food delivery if that , it can't go where a push bike can

Good to hear! I just ordered the tangerine one with 50mph!😊

There are over 822,000 subscribers to this channel so far! (September 2021). That doesn't sound like an underrated channel. The only problem why there are not millions of subscribers is that EVs and electric stuff which this channel exclusively produce are just not yet popular subjects. If this channel was into supercars and hypercars with this level of production quality, they would be rivalling, or even exceeding KZfaqrs like Shmee, JWW etc

New Arcimoto owner here: Hopefully in a year or so, Arcimoto will add leaning to their products. The Carver is great for England, but the Arcimoto FUV is built for America. Regardless the steering is neither left or right.

Arcimoto is pretty cool 😎, have you seen the Aptera 250 mile base range ....up to 1000 mile range battery, 2 seater $25k

Then they should go for the original design but electric.

They should create a motorcycle version with only to wheels and tons of downforce.

Roof down not enough?

At 11:50 he has his arm on the window sill, so the windows must come down or be removable.

When will this be available in the US?

you can't roll them down but you can remove them completely.

There were plans for a version with a 12 kWh battery pack and the ability to reach 105 mph in sports mode back in 2014, you can find it presented as the Lynx e Carver or Lynx Lean electric, if you search for it. It was a more expensive option but no doubt a more useful one as well. Sadly lack of investment killed the project just before it was to go into production.

@@justjc51 That's what I'm talking about!!

It's like a slower FUV or SOLO. But it has tilt.

I think in the coming years Vandenbrink will sell their patents to other car companies so they can allow to make their version of the Carver so the market can finally thrive..

I would buy one the moment it was available if it could go 60mph. It is the perfect little transport for my needs.

You do not want this to drive 60mph, absolute death trap at that speed

@@Lewis_Standing the ICE variant could do 110+mph!

@@Lewis_Standing And that claim is based on what?

That's the problem though, the FUV can't lean. The SOLO is better than the FUV if you want cabin protection, but the SOLO needs more refinement.

Not that brilliant if you carry heavy and/or fragile stuff

There’s one that does 50. I reckon it needs to do 56, that’s what the lorries are limited to, so at 56 you can keep up with some traffic on the M roads.

In U.K. we call it “traffic filtering” but the Carver is too wide. What’s needed is something like the Piaggio MP3 scooter but fully covered and ideally not much wider. Two front wheels = hoot stopping powers d lean steering (as a bike does) means less elbow room is needed.

@@davidelliott5843you're right, it appears to be 20cm wider than a Mp3, which I already find annoying 😂 In France it's called doing the "interfile"

In my London borough the speed limit is 20mph

The Carver S+ does 80km/h, but you need a motorcycle, or possibly car license to drive one. The draw of these is you only need a scooter license, or in some countries only be old enough.

So at 30mph the motor is taking 2.7kW if it’s using 90W.h/mile. At, say, 90% efficiency that’s about 3.3 bhp. Given its size and performance that sounds do-able, to me.

I keep forgetting it tops out at 30mph.

This is exactly how to do the city mobility thing wrong. They sold less in two decades than Arcimoto sold in 2 years...

Yeah... I can kind of understand scooters being limited to 45kmh for city street driving only, but something like this that is mostly enclosed should at least be able to do 65kph to be able to keep up with traffic on thoroughfares in most cities . Not highways and expressways, just the very common 60kmh roads that cut through most cities, at least here in North America.

It's not a limiting range at all for those with sensible commutes. Driving over 60 miles a day is a bit of a waste of time and energy. Probably unsustainable. Could just like live closer to work. Or maybe not every vehicle needs to meet everyone's demands, if it's not for you, that's probably because they aren't trying to sell it to you.

I have tried to modify mine but it's beyond my skills. The DVC/BMS systems along with the controllers and hub motors are very closely integrated so unless you can reprogram everything you're out of luck... I'm sure someone will crack it tho.

For 8k you can buy a like new used citreon zoe.

@@sc149 we have a Renault Zoe, the Carver is our second car.

£8000 for a brand new 4 seater car ? What's that then ?

@@Dave-in-France Dacia Sandero.

More a covered e-scooter, as you don't have to peddle

Love this idea! Especially with the new faster S+

I would say this is safer than any other regular scooter.

@@pokemonfreaky100 But not a safe as a car, as stated in the video.

😃😄😃

Always loved the concept of the Carver for getting around. However the setup for just 30mph and around the city isn't what I would hope for. I hoped that an all electric three wheel like this would have much higher speed and miles for rage.

@@pauljolivette5989 it is a city car so 30 mph is perfect unless you speed. I see it as a second car a bit like mini's used to be for the rich.

The answer to an allrounder is GUESS WHAT the CAR

Get the pod ride from Sweden cheap better $2,000 Or the elf transit in USA

@@tking1539 LMAO.. The Pod Ride might be fun. The looks would be hilarious. I think that's the most cartoony vehicle I have ever seen. The elf is a little to bicycle for two for me. What I really like is the Aptera.

It is a heap les $$$ than the Acrimoto.

@@markthomasson5077 Exactly.

pff now way bro... electric scooters and chairs are the future of city transport

Disagree completely. Gridlock is real, it's going to get worse if EVs continue to be cheap to use. I'd still rather use a bicycle (and I do - a lot) than this, but if a few people who are too lazy to cycle use these instead of their massive SUV, it's definitely a solution to a problem.

Glad the Carver refused to die..