Johnathan. This is a marvellous upload and takes me back to the 1960's with a Jinty and Princess Royal. The West German provenance of the Seuthe units leads me to suggest the pronounciation should be 'Soy-ter'

Always entertaining, Mr Snooze... Simply wonderful.....thanks a lot... It's fun just watching... brilliant ! 🙂🙂👍👍🇳🇿🇳🇿

Great video. I converted a Triang Rocket to radio control (battery etc. in the coach behind the loco) principally to overcome the poor track connectivity but realised in the process that I could leave the smoke unit on track power. This, per your comment about a resistor on the motor feed, allows the smoke unit to have full power whilst the motor is regulated. I posted a KZfaq earlier this year showing this. Best wishes.

Amazing.

Lovely. The Holiday Express is so evocative. I wonder where it would have been heading back then. I picture a harried mother herding the children, father lugging the suitcases, everyone excited and mum just wanting a cup of tea from the diner. Also, I was thinking about the smoke units. How about a low voltage smoke element, maybe 3-6 volts, with a solid state voltage regulator. That way it would fire up without the need to apply full power to the motor. Come on Tri-ang, what's the R&D Dept doing? 😄

fascinating smoke units and i enjoyed the running! very nice passenger trains. i always liked the shape of your double mainline. cheers and nice video Sir! :) -john

Triang speed ? I’m giving it all she’s got captain the motor will never take it she’s gonna blow Damb it Scotty we need smoke Give it more power .

I have always wondered about condensate over the brushes and the windings. I notice you do some sealing to forestall. That is a wonderful pyrometer. What a good addition for exhaustive heat testing for any loco. Thanks for your efforts.

Good stuff. Thanks for the tips on the smoke oil alternative. I must try my smoke engines. Stay safe Mon

Even as a child I thought the smoke units were more gimmick than practical. I removed them from most of my locos. The B12's ran extremely well today Jonathan, most enjoyable to see. David.

Great video, i found a supplier of locomotive smoke oil and guess what, it smelled like baby oil. And it worked great not that I use them very much. All the best

I too had an old Triang 'jinty' (and still have it) it had a smoke box my dad would put drops of oil down the chimney and smoke was generated he knicknamed it the 'Puffer', managed to get the locomotive working after it was lying in a box for the last fifty years. I will need to see if I can get the smoke generator working. Another great video Mr.Snooze keep the memories coming. Merry Christmas to you.

Great video As normal

Could you use essential oils? Those for the tea light "air fresheners", non toxic? for "Soothe running"😏👍👍

I bought the smoking jinty and pannier tank , the trouble is you have to run them so fast you can never be sure if it’s the smoke unit or the motor that’s smoking lol , the jinty was bought because a smoker jinty was in the first train set I ever got as a child .

Tremendous fun indeed and what was just a gimmick is now making a comeback as Hornby are introducing a new smoke unit which will sync with sound on DCC. There are others already on the market, they are much more effective and can slowly steam away even when stationary on digital control.

Be interesting to see if there was a way to activate the smoke generation at slower speeds as always though a very good video. All the best to you and your family over the festive season.

Absolutely happy to see you run these. I have a Class L1 4-4-0 but i seem to overfill these and they stop smoking. I also have no idea how to service the Suethe smoke units so ill keep an eye on that short or video you have servicing these.

There isn't much of a substitute for the real thing, buy some Seuthe smoke fluid it is still available and is the best on the market. Do please give a more in depth look at the smoke units... I realise now why my Davy Crocket can hardly make a wisp... no tube lol. I never saw it as a gimmick, to me it was serious kung-fu and still is with the American MTH & BLI loco's. Thanks for giving us a mouthpiece and an ear.

Typical timing, just seen this vid and your advice about the smoke unit running hot, had this been a day earlier, i may not have burnt my finger servicing an old Brittania. I tend to use liquid paraffin which works ok. Never sure about the effects any of these smoke units might have on our health. Had the local chemist in stitches when I told him what I wanted the paraffin for. Another lovely video. Would you consider testing different oils for the best effects. Keep up the good work

You are right 1960s Tri-ang and Tri-ang Hornby were all about fun . Seeing your layout just seems so reminiscent of Christmas . Train set under the tree , excitement ! I had a B12 but the Princess Elizabeth and my 3F Jinty all had smoke too . Great stuff ! Merry Christmas

Excellent video, it would be good to see more on the triang version as I like the puffing effect. There may be scope for modification to make it work better at slow speeds. I have several of these units but no working elements and would be very interested in finding a replacement.

Would be interesting to add a series diode array to slow the motor while still giving full voltage to the smoke unit, so it will work better at slower speeds. Diode arrays drop voltage by 0.7V per diode, and won't get hot. Resistor could work, but is not, electrically, the correct way to go, as the effective resistance of the motor changes with the running speed (as the back-emf builds), so the response becomes very non-linear. Diodes simply drop the voltage, regardless of the back-emf in the circuit.

I believe, that if you go to the trouble of fitting DCC, then the smoke unit could be powered on it's own function, and be run at a higher voltage than the motor? It could probably even smoke while standing still? The DCC decoder would need to be a "heavy duty" one for the older motors though? The voltage for a smoke unit would need the C.V's set, to not exceed the originally intended 12 volts mark though , or the units may "overheat" and damage the loco bodies or their elements.. (Because DCC voltages can be 16 volts or more, the full available track power may be too much for them )? Tri ang smoke can look good too, if you double head locos? The extra power to run two locos, means more voltage to the smoke unit, but a bit less speed for the locos? All in all, I like to see a smoke unit working, but sometimes a bit of experimentation may be needed, to find the best oil to produce the most or enough smoke?

Thanks Mr Snooze, really interesting to see the smoke units in more detail, and the lovely B12's. Do they both have Magnadhesion - the cornering at smoke-generating speeds was amazing to see ! Thanks again.