The 5 pole conversion on the 2-6-4 sounds appealing. You are so right about not leaving them unattended. Sometimes I think my trains know when I leave the room or turn my back for a minute and they play up, it's like attention seeking behaviour 😄

Yeah, do it! You know you want to do it. Love the Wren locos.

Morning Mr Snooze, lovely, looking locomotive and seems to run very well and the lining is interesting. Take care. Oscar

That is a great looking locomotive, so good that whoever converted it did so as to make it easy to change back. Yes would love to see the 5 pole conversion with a comparison between the two, before and after at different speeds. All the best, Rob.

Fascinating, lovely loco, look forward to seeing it running with the 5 pole armature

Looking forward to seeing this lovely loco running with the five pole armature!

Nice conversion. Looks great on the Super 4 layout.

Love to see more

love that Wrenn engine! nice trains running :)

Your example looks gorgeous! I have 2 of this as it has to be my favourite wrenn engine of all time, I think the livery just elevates it further for me

The City of Stoke-on-Trent locomotives is a gorgeous example of the Princess Coronation locomotive.

What a gem Jonathan. If it was running poorly then I would say yes to a conversion but it is running superbly. I hope you try the 5 pole armature in something that is running poorly. With knuckle type couplers it is important to ensure that they are all at the same height or they will uncouple. All the best, David.

I was absolutely right!! It most certainly is exactly what I thought it would be. And in LMS Black rather than crimson, it really is gorgeous!!

a fascinating idea Jonathan. to measure the current draw before and after would be instructive. w2227 would be a great locomotive to evaluate as the 5-pole armature was purchased for this item.

I tend to think that if it aint broke, don't fix it, and leave the City of Stoke alone. If I had that 5 pole motor, I would put it in my most troublesome loco, or retain it for when I actually need it. Martin.

Love to see the 5 pole in the City class and watch the improvement, thanks for sharing,John

All part of the fun random uncouplings .How about the gwr tank engine getting the 5 pole motor, would be great for pulling the tankers. All the best

It’s making quite a lot of noise for a locomotive that is too old to be DCC Sound!! Brilliant!!

Nice to see Wrenn City of Stoke on Trent……I would certainly like to see that with a 5 pole motor in. Pleased you converted the utility van, yes I am to blame for suggesting it! Just one thing with Wrenn models which I have found on some (particularly Tenders) the “stops” for Dublo couplings are not always quite the correct spacing….wonder if that could be a reason for separating if they lose tension on those reverse bends. Dublo couplings seem to run for half an hour ok then start separating. One of life’s great mysteries!

Can't wait for the five pole transplant🤓👏👏👍👍

Hi,What another beautiful Wrenn Coronation Class loco.The City of Stoke on Trent in LMS black straw and crimson lining and wartime black livery is.I have handled most of the Wrenn Coronation engines and this black loco has to be a favourite of mine.I have handled 3 down the years and kept one ''mint boxed''for my Wrenn collection.Its a pity George Wrenn never upgraded the scale driving wheels,maybe a bit expensive.I have acquired on e bay a few old Dublo Coronations with scale Romford wheels fitted in the sixties and seventies.One LMS Atholl 2 rail convert cost me only £24 plus postage about 8 years ago.I have Wrenn Cities London BR maroon,Liverpool in LMS maroon,the Dublo 3 rail Liverpool is finished in BR maroon and an expensive item,Birmingham BR green,Glasgow in beautiful BR and the Stoke on Trent in LMS wartime black.I remember these locos retailing at £11.95 in the mid seventies.Happy memories.

It would be great to see a comparison of 3-pole and 5-pole pulling power and slow-speed running in any suitable wrenn or dublo loco - I'm sure you would apply your trademark methodical and thorough approach to the endeavour, and make an entertaining video as well. Like Martin says, perhaps choose a loco that is in need of improvement, although that wouldn't be a fair comparison, but you could still compare the 5-pole recipient with another similar good 3-pole loco, perhaps even side by side running on the two main lines if you have enough coaches (I'm pretty sure you do!)

It will be interesting to see how the Wrenn 5 pole armature performs in detail. I have seen comments over the years that it did not deliver the expected improvement. Unless people did a ham fisted conversion and lost magnetism and or the lesser known ball bearings in the motor. These days remagnetising is much more available to keen modellers thanks to Mr Dodd as is the ball bearing issue.

I find my SOT runs really well even with a three pole. I suppose it's preference really

Coming from Stoke on Trent I have this model and I love it although I built mine from bits as I couldn't afford the over inflated prices on Ebay

I've heard of a slip coach but not a slip train.

If you don’t know what to do with that 3 rail pickup Mr S, I’d be happy to take it off your hands 😂. I have 2 Dublo City of London locos and I’d love to be able to convert one for my 3-rail layout… TBH it runs so well already, I’d leave her with her existing armature.

Be very interesting to see a 5 pole comparison but I think it needs to be against a 3 pole that is running well so that any differences can be attributed to the armatures and not perhaps a poor 3 pole. I used to think 4 cylinder engines were fine until I got a 6 and I'd never go back.....

Where did you find the city its mint they did not have to fit those pick up wires it would have run well on 3 rail .I would lever it alone and put the armature in something else like 4mt regards newwey

And it’s hardly been even used!! Very exciting!! What a wonderful model that is!! The only problem with it is that it isn’t a Southern steam locomotive, so it couldn’t really run on a Dad’s Army layout!!

All my Pacific type locomotives are Bulleid Pacifics.