Funny scene from shogun john blackthorne II Web series

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@brandy1999 5 ай бұрын

Meanwhile, in Mariko's head: "Please dont be gay" "Please dont be gay" "Please dont be gay"

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

💀☠️

@bahagharingmatsing 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@carloschu7127 5 ай бұрын

The actress wear a beautiful Mini-skirts during an interview, showing her amazing long legs. 😍

@stefanlvkc7986 5 ай бұрын

Given the amount of homosexual acts lords in Japan engaged in during that period, she's probably not that bothered.

@eodyn7 5 ай бұрын

@@stefanlvkc7986 She would be bothered if she was interested in him.

@itskarl7575 5 ай бұрын

This is possibly the most comical scene in the book, which was sadly not exploited in the 1980s series, nor here either. In the book, Blackthorne becomes incensed at the suggestion that he might want a boy for comfort, something which baffles the Japanese in the room. A couple of retainers discuss amongst themselves that maybe he's like the Koreans who prefer animals. Maybe they should suggest that to him? The other retainer says no, probably best not to do it, what if they make him even more upset. The first retainer suggests they don't actually have to ask him - just bring a duck to the room and then see what the barbarian does with it. In the end they decide to err on the side of caution.

@adamm2091 5 ай бұрын

That's fantastic

@tdugong 5 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, the sarcastic asides from the Japanese retainers watching Blackthorn was really funny.

@skyereave9454 5 ай бұрын

Like the Koreans prefer animals? Wtf

@gregrizal5043 5 ай бұрын

I guess the Portuguese priests didn't preached about why Christians hate gays.

@The_Midnight_Bear 5 ай бұрын

Yup. I explicitly recall the "maybe he wants a duck?" part, which was hilarious.

@benlyon4739 5 ай бұрын

A doctor prescribing courtesans puts a whole new spin on 'take two of these and call me in the morning'

@NOL1FEK1NG 4 ай бұрын

lolololol

@Scarletraven87 4 ай бұрын

If I have to, I will doc. Leaving the office: i.imgflip.com/5w0d8z.jpg

@karlkrump6634 5 ай бұрын

I remember a documentary about a Japanese doctor that was first introduced to western medicine sometime in the 1800s and commenting (paraphrasing) "if I had known just how complex was the human body then I would not have dared practice medicine before." Just something off the top of my head but always found that cool, one of the positive things that came out of cultural interactions.

@henrykanning245 5 ай бұрын

Western medicine improved dramatically from the 1600’s to the 1800’s. Also John Blackthorn appears to be quite common, mentioning the streets of London and whores. This would limit his education and access to quality medicine. Germ theory only became accepted universally after around 1880.

@projektkobra2247 5 ай бұрын

They knew enough combat medicine..that alcohol and salt would heal a wound "somehow"...

@Brandon_Y. 5 ай бұрын

@@henrykanning245 they still praticed lobotomy in the 1800s though

@gridwreckgamer6254 5 ай бұрын

He was a pilot for a ship, def educated and from a family@@henrykanning245

@killerqueen6054 5 ай бұрын

@@Brandon_Y.The brain is a much more complex part of the human body, that would take a lot longer to understand better

@orionion 5 ай бұрын

Blackthorne's speech sounds a little over-acted but then again, when you listen to recordings of every day talk from just a 100 years ago, the intonation sounds formal and melodramatic

@nivekian 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, these sailors were blustery fellows, I thought his voice would bug me, but it kinda grew on me.

@legoslicerfilms1028 5 ай бұрын

@@nivekianyea!

@orionion 5 ай бұрын

@@nivekian I bet the same is true of every language. Finnish and Spanish, being languages that I understand with greater fluency than English, both have their antiquated versions.

@ryankwon8785 5 ай бұрын

Blackthorne is in a country where everyone except Torunaga wants him dead. His behavior is plausible for someone who does not know when he will die.

@orionion 5 ай бұрын

@@ryankwon8785 True, as far as I'm concerned. However, I wasn't talking about his behavior, only about the unusual old-fashioned form of speaking.

@ColonelPeppers 5 ай бұрын

I kept thinking why isn't my mouse pointer getting off the screen, I keep moving my mouse and it won't budge. Took me a good five seconds to realize that it wasn't mine.

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

😂😆

@nandhan6637 5 ай бұрын

i thought it was mine but ignored to move it anyway luckily

@rayyutepa5433 5 ай бұрын

Same (watching it on my phone btw)

@pali_aha 5 ай бұрын

So you're saying you'd prefer a male companion to pillow with? 🥶🍟🍼

@musicaleuphoria8699 5 ай бұрын

Making me think this is a leaked cutscene outta Total War Shogun 3.

@jockjamseternal5651 5 ай бұрын

It'd be fun to walk around for a day acting like this guy, growling exclamations like, "Dear God, this warlock is trying to take my life! He is in league with the Papists, I say!"

@TNTspaz 5 ай бұрын

I know some people have an issue with the way Blackthorne talks, but it's honestly realistic for long-term sailors. Every word matters and can be life or death It really works well against the old japanese dialect that was spoken in a similar manner

@abc92800 5 ай бұрын

People complaining about his voice are crazy. The Lighthouse (2019) with Dafoe and Pattinson had great “over” voice acting tbh. And we’re talking abt THE 1600s - a sailor’s English would have been even more indecipherable and “foreign”-sounding.

@PappyGunn 5 ай бұрын

He's from the RN after all 🧜‍♀

@jager6863 5 ай бұрын

Yup, if you want the man to speak realistic English for the time, most listeners would be confused. Although we were exiting Middle English into a more modern variant, some things would still be difficult to understand. One of the reasons Shakespeare's works still remain popular, is that his first sonnets weren't published until 1607 (7 years after these events in Japan), so modern speakers can still (mostly) understand the original works. Remember also, when you hear the characters speaking "English", they are really speaking Portuguese in the TV series.

@finncullen 4 ай бұрын

Sounds to me like he's trying to impersonate Tom Hardy

@SukiOG 4 ай бұрын

Mariko the doctor suggest we send a women to pillow with you instead. Also Mariko: ME ME ME ME

@sigmashorts19 4 ай бұрын

😂😂

@RTU130 Ай бұрын

💀

@althesmith 5 ай бұрын

Well, he was a sailor...

@MorliHolect 5 ай бұрын

In the book he remembers he had felt temptation during his trips on the seas. He also remembers almost being raped when he was young...

@RobTzu 5 ай бұрын

'The traditions of the Royal Navy are rum, sodomy and the lash' - Winston Churchill

@NCR-National-Reclamation-Gov 5 ай бұрын

Damm navy

@jcarry5214 5 ай бұрын

It ain’t gay if you’re underway.

@althesmith 5 ай бұрын

2 days at sea and it's all good./or so I've been told/nttawwt@@jcarry5214

@PappyGunn 5 ай бұрын

That sounds like a very wise doctor. Gimme some of that and put it on my insurance plan.

@acrustykrab 4 ай бұрын

"here is your prescription for a pillow companion and some opium" - best doctor ever

@AtheAetheling 5 ай бұрын

There are a few concerning comments that indicate that Japan was ok with homosexuality. This is a gross oversimplification for what was in most cases, older males being allowed to take sexual advantage of young boys. It is not something to be admired when it happened. Such 'companions' were told it was their duty. You will note in the old series she uses the word 'boy' not 'male'; the implications have been softened here. In the interest of fairness, Japan seems also to have had no specific problem with genuine homosexual loving relationships; though examples of it are rare, and it was certainly not what was being offered here.

@fungunsun1 5 ай бұрын

Yeah this series is very low on PC compared to all other content these days, but there are still moments like this that are a bit watered down, which is sad.

@AFGuidesHD 4 ай бұрын

the same could be said of female companionship no doubt.

@Kokong 4 ай бұрын

So the ancient Greek stance then.

@95DarkFire 2 ай бұрын

@@Kokong Yes. Boys were desirable as long as their were feminine enough. Once they grew beard, it was over.

@Kokong 2 ай бұрын

@@95DarkFire So it’s essentially the result of a culture where homosexual relationships existed more out of a distaste for women than anything, and the boy being a stand-in for a woman.

@Hibernicus1968 5 ай бұрын

In the book, and in the original miniseries, Blackthorne reacts with considerable anger at the suggestion he be provided a male bed partner. In today's climate, I'm entirely unsurprised they changed that for this series; reacting with horror and outrage at being asked if one wants a male companion would definitely not be allowed in any film or series being made today. I've always been amused at Richard Chamberlain acting out that scene in the 1980 adaptation, given his sexual preference.

@alesh2275 5 ай бұрын

Japan has been more historically open to homosexuality. Oda Nobunaga, Japan’s first great unifier, had an openly male lover.

@thevikingsock8527 5 ай бұрын

Also because its fn stupid to react like that. Yes things change, they always did and when it comes to discrimination, its good that we do something against it.

@EM-tx3ly 5 ай бұрын

Pederasty was very practiced by the nobility especially by samurai thankfully the Western intervention stopped this vile filthy practice

@cane6074 5 ай бұрын

True, but does the same thing here but in more understated and bewildered way.

@joaquindonoso5481 5 ай бұрын

But it kinda breaks the immersion into the show.

@poursuivant1 4 ай бұрын

Richard Burton called from the beyond, and he wants his voice back.

@BreezyE-d3n 3 ай бұрын

as did Tom Hardy

@retrodemogamer 5 ай бұрын

I have a feeling that her husband is still alive.

@Urumi89 5 ай бұрын

It won't matter...if you know you know

@MentalParadox 5 ай бұрын

Yep... Mariko and Blackthorne will hook up, and then the husband will suddenly show up - just in time for a bloody confrontation. Maybe Blackthorne will be forced to kill him in a duel, winning his samurai armor in the process (seeing as how he WILL become a samurai in this series).

@chris-pm5oy 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for ruining it for me @@MentalParadox

@fungunsun1 5 ай бұрын

You were right :)

@trinitytwo14992 2 ай бұрын

In the original book, they even offer a duck

@kossttamojaan 5 ай бұрын

this scene is nothing compared to the novel. this interaction in the novel is hilarious.

@alesh2275 5 ай бұрын

Dear God where am I.

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

😂😂

@benkei7530 5 ай бұрын

Truer words have never been spoken

@alesh2275 5 ай бұрын

Homosexuality has a long traditional in Japan. Oda Nobunaga, the 1st unifier of Japan, openly had a male “companion”…

@w.h648 5 ай бұрын

@@alesh2275 Homosexuality has been around everywhere. Achilles and Alexander the great had lover boys.

@stefanlvkc7986 5 ай бұрын

@@alesh2275 Toyotomi Hideyoshi was mocked by other daimyo for not having a male "companion".

@SalznPfeffer658 5 ай бұрын

I love pillows!

@tonyweaver2353 5 ай бұрын

Is this the same actress as from Monarch the godzilla series? Shes so good and new and up and coming!

@AAZer0 5 ай бұрын

She is indeed.

@Getooooofed 5 ай бұрын

I hated her in that show, but love her in this. Godzilla had rancid writing and dialogue while this show is top notch.

@OneofInfinity. 5 ай бұрын

@@Getooooofed We live in the dumb and bad writing ages, what a time to be alive.

@Getooooofed 5 ай бұрын

@@OneofInfinity. agreed a lot of shows are not good lately, I have been watching more anime. I am also excited for house of dragons I thought that was pretty good.

@PappyGunn 5 ай бұрын

She doesn't look like Godzilla...

@bounmykerilynnsombath8400 5 ай бұрын

I ship Mariko with John Blackthorn so this funny moment with them together is cute af, I knew there was gonna be some spark and banter between the two!👩🏻👨🏼‍🦱☺️✨💝 #Johniko

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

True 😁

@benkei7530 5 ай бұрын

You do know they get together right. Didn’t you watch the original series or read the book

@bahagharingmatsing 5 ай бұрын

@@benkei7530they probably didn’t

@benkei7530 5 ай бұрын

@@bahagharingmatsingno they do indeed get together

@ShadowPhoenixMaximus 5 ай бұрын

@@benkei7530It goes the same way as 47 Ronin though

@themancunian777 5 ай бұрын

Lmao - great series this - really enjoying it 👍

@RobTzu 5 ай бұрын

If doc gives me a prescription for this, do you think insurance will pay?

@jakeg3733 5 ай бұрын

No. Pre-existing condition

@wiIIywanka 3 ай бұрын

Imagine if blackthorne had just given a look of horror when he sees a man come into the room after they suggested that they send a man instead.

@aryanpozung 5 ай бұрын

When he repeats "he needs a woman" in Japanese makes it more funny 😂😂

@johndoe9200 4 ай бұрын

I like how much is said but never explained, like how in the begining he thought the doctor was going to perform bloodletting which was extremely common in those times, when doctors and physicians still havent figured out proper medicine. Also the part where he was talking about the 'foulness in my blood" was referring to the humors that they believed in at the time, where having an imbalance in humors in your body was what killed you

@RickySpanish- 13 күн бұрын

John Blackthorns accent sounds a lot like how American fisherman sounded in the late 1800’s.

@FirstLastOne 4 ай бұрын

Anjinsan, pillowing is a most important part of a man's life...

@MJJJones 5 ай бұрын

"He's not a God cursed sodamite."

@illerac84 5 ай бұрын

I had wondered if they’d change that line. Honestly, that had to of bothered Richard Chamberlain a little bit.

@MrTerrorist 5 ай бұрын

@@illerac84 Oh right. The actor who played John Blackthorn in the 1980 Shogun miniseries was closet gay man. It musta been awkward to say such a homophobic line when he himself was gay.

@itskarl7575 5 ай бұрын

@@illerac84 Don't see why, it's called acting.

@grahammcfadyenhill9555 4 ай бұрын

Speling, dude, speling.

@itskarl7575 4 ай бұрын

@@grahammcfadyenhill9555 Did you intentionally misspell "spelling"?

@danmaddox2849 Ай бұрын

He didn't say no to a male companion...the. Plot. Thiccens

@tenjenk 4 ай бұрын

I love how the doctors response about him needing a woman makes her stoicism crack a bit, you can even see the woman in the back shift at the response. For someone with her level of docudrama and poise, she must be roaring with laughter inside.

@markuswolf2678 5 ай бұрын

The scene had more weight and was more believable in the 1980s version.

@Fox-One1937 5 ай бұрын

Doctor: this man need a whisky is more accurate

@tugbangiv 5 ай бұрын

For some reason I'm going to ship john with the "other" woman. I just hope they have enough scenes.

@Nappy17691821 4 ай бұрын

He sounds like Richard Burton

@abc92800 5 ай бұрын

@chiaohongcheng 5 ай бұрын

so for those wondering the gay part in Japan its normal for the lords to have boy for that too, but they don't think it as "gay". The more you know

@pirobot668beta 4 ай бұрын

In some circles, 'boys were for pleasure, girls are for babies' Ancient Greece ran in the same circles.

@Yabuturtle 4 ай бұрын

@@pirobot668beta They did it, but it doesn't mean most liked it or supported it. Just that they didn't care if it happened.

@playbook008 5 ай бұрын

I didn't know Samurais screw each other samurais on and off the battlefield, with big and small katanas for thrusting into their victims.

@garrycahilig7007 5 ай бұрын

imagine if tom cruise is also there somewhere training another army on the western waays of war 😅

@kaustavborah4621 5 ай бұрын

Tom Cruise is there during 1800s

@utoob7361 4 ай бұрын

@@kaustavborah4621 Tom Cruise is there whenever he wants to be, cause he's effing Tom Cruise.

@grahammcfadyenhill9555 4 ай бұрын

What? Tom Cruise playing another sawed off smart aleck twerp?

@selmahare 2 ай бұрын

And if Keanu Reeves also showed up as a ronin XD

@thenneklkt7786 5 ай бұрын

He's literally me.

@yenxion6516 5 ай бұрын

Fun fact: gay sex was not frown on in Japan until Christianity and western influence arrived and says it was wrong.

@LeventeCzelnai 5 ай бұрын

It is wrong.

@hieuneo7085 5 ай бұрын

@@LeventeCzelnainice bait eunuch

@laggyweeaboo1122 5 ай бұрын

@@LeventeCzelnai Your mother.

@eodyn7 5 ай бұрын

Many cultures around the world view homosexuality as immoral and wrong.

@bricktop9486 5 ай бұрын

@@LeventeCzelnai 🤡

@dandy-lions5788 5 ай бұрын

Historically, medieval Japan did not have any hangups about homosexuality the way Europeans did - this question would have been very normal

@raymatthews4431 4 күн бұрын

Dear god where am i.. such a british comment Hahahha

@stallion78 5 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLWfY9OolciuoKM.htmlsi=pzcaxqrf2wEj6FzR The original 1980 Shogun pillowing question scene.

@PappyGunn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the link. I like that 1980 scene better. I know sailors are not too bright, but what's the matter with that boy?

@spooneater9001 5 ай бұрын

Based.

@nataliee.parker2873 4 ай бұрын

Anyone else suddenly very interested in what the cultural and societal approach to homosexuality was like in 17th century Japan? Just me?

@qetoun 2 ай бұрын

Doctor's orders.

@devinarthur6559 5 ай бұрын

0:06 1:14 1:17

@rejectionperfection250 4 ай бұрын

YO HO, SEBASTIAN!

@user-ft1xf8wk9m 3 ай бұрын

THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@artfasil 5 ай бұрын

Dear God where am i ?

@Beep1980 5 ай бұрын

The book is much Harder at this Scene, She offer him Not only a men, but also a boy. 💀

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

Really ? ☠️

@Beep1980 5 ай бұрын

@@sigmashorts19 yeah and He goes really Mad because of this. 💀

@itskarl7575 5 ай бұрын

She doesn't offer him a man at all - only a boy. And then it is suggested that maybe he is impotent, which only enrages him further. And then they debate whether they should offer him a duck, but think better of it.

@The_Gallowglass 4 ай бұрын

0:43 Truer words have ne'er been spoken.

@joey6058 4 ай бұрын

Werent there, like femboys in this period? I know there was a name for it.

@024rahmatalaminmaba6 5 ай бұрын

My mind was like please say yes please say yes LOL

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

ahaha

@Basketcase6925 5 ай бұрын

Warlock 😂

@kingofcards9516 4 ай бұрын

Most gay relationships were between a older man and young boy. Just like nowadays.

@user-gz1gj3zd3k 17 күн бұрын

한편, 마리코의 머리 속에는: "제발 게이가 되지 마세요" "제발 게이가 되지 마세요" "제발 게이가 되지 마세요" 비하 하는거 아닙니다 저 카톨릭 요셉입니다; 그럼 `마빈 게이`는 요? 한국 뮤지션 중에 psy있는데 노래가 `니가` 챔피언! 임.. 아...죠크 넘었음 지삼다~ 하지만 `킹 조지` 는 한국에서 어쩔 수 없어요; (정말 그는 컷나요?)

@yeyonge 4 ай бұрын

The book is far worse than this, they even talked about how being pedo is ok...

@sigmashorts19 4 ай бұрын

😳

@vice9091 3 ай бұрын

I mean back then they didn’t think it was bad, women were given to men as soon as they were able to have children. People were ok with all kinds of fucked up things hundreds of years ago.

@histman3133 5 ай бұрын

I think the modern one is better in terms of its CGI but, in my opinion, it relies too much on the action and it all feels a bit forced. The older 1980s version is more about the romance and the adventure and taking time with explanations. A part of the book and the older 1980s series that it made it so interesting was Clavell's time spent delving into Japanese history, politics and philosophy. Also in the 1980s version Blackthorne and Mariko had far better chemistry. Right from the get go you can see that Blackthorne, this strange barbarian from across the seas, piqued her interest. This new 2024 Mariko sounds cold and distant and the new Blackthorne sounds like he's just reading through the lines in the scenes as fast as he can. Also in this politically correct era we live in I doubt many of the non-PC sections of the book and the 1980s series could ever be shown today. Not unless they wanted it to get cancelled.

@projektkobra2247 5 ай бұрын

Indeed...this actress is attractive, but she's like a corpse.

@adriangeorge9197 5 ай бұрын

For a women who boasts so much about honor, tradition, martial prowess , and unwavering loyalty if only she kept her legs intact instead of going behind her "supposedly dead" husband at least some of it would have made sense ....

@stateofflorida5082 5 ай бұрын

Having someone defy their own beliefs can make for an interesting character when it's played right. In this show, it is played right.

@adriangeorge9197 5 ай бұрын

@@stateofflorida5082 She isn't defying shit ...except her coochies from her husband

@adriangeorge9197 5 ай бұрын

@@stateofflorida5082 The only thing she is defying here , is her coochies from her husband....

@itskarl7575 5 ай бұрын

Wait, is her husband Buntaro dead in this series? Her relationship to him is a crucial aspect of her character in the book.

@adriangeorge9197 5 ай бұрын

@@stateofflorida5082 Defiance isn't derived from yielding to your unchecked venereal urges my friend. In a society steeped in strict moral standards and social stratification...I don't know how that contributes as defiance to undermine its hierarchy more so than getting your coochies wet ....

@AA-ug6bp 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@GGGmod1 5 ай бұрын

This video single handedly fucked the whole sound on my pc so i will give an extremely rare once a decade downvote

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

how though?

@Morozova48 5 ай бұрын

what is this, the story of the first passport bro ? lol

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

It's a webseries name shogun John blackthorne

@CommentsProbablyDeleted 5 ай бұрын

This actor doesn't have the stage presence of Richard Chamberlain. Not by a hundred miles.

@gapa11 4 ай бұрын

Great casting except the british actor. HORRIBLE

@lucian6521 4 ай бұрын

the fuck you mean? he's crushing the role. wait, is this sarcasm?

@ilooowamp 5 ай бұрын

this guys voice is dubbed?😂

@Jupiter.141 5 ай бұрын

That's his real voice, he was just talking deep

@w.h648 5 ай бұрын

@@Jupiter.141 I swear this dude has the same voice as Michael Wincott.

@rsuriyop 5 ай бұрын

I’ve always found it real peculiar how some Englishmen speak in that throaty sort of way. As if they’re under the weather or have something caught in their throat.

@Vertasoie 2 ай бұрын

@@Jupiter.141 Actually not entirely, in interviews his voice isnt so raspy, he did this on purpose.

@ogukuo97 5 ай бұрын

Anna Sawai just looks completely wrong for the role. She's not a classic Japanese beauty.

@richardruff8712 5 ай бұрын

To be honest, I thought that Yoko Shimada, as Mariko San, in the 1980 TV series, was a much more suitable actress for the part... She seemed to have a more gentle and sensitive style, and worked very well with Richard Chamberlain.... We must see all the story, before deciding which was the best Mariko...

@qwertyboo 5 ай бұрын

Her role is hard to cast, you need someone Japanese, who also speaks English, who also knows how to act, who also isn't completely unknown. She's in Monarch so has a small following. I think they did well casting her.

@ogukuo97 5 ай бұрын

@@richardruff8712 I agree. Or someone like Koyuki Kato who acted in the Last Samurai.

@ogukuo97 5 ай бұрын

@@qwertyboo Yes, perhaps you are right. But that doesn't change the fact that she looked wrong for that role. And I find it difficult to submerse myself in the role precisely because she was in Monarch (with the same dark mood, mind you). Not that she did a good job acting in that show either, although I think she did relatively well here. There are a number of Japanese actresses nowaday that speak reasonably good English, like Ishihara Satomi, and I was wondering why they chose to cast Sawai again. Is she the only oriental actress these Americans can think of, and thus cast her in everything, sort of like Michelle Yeoh?

@richardruff8712 5 ай бұрын

@@ogukuo97 Not sure, IMO.. Koyuki Kato seems to be slightly Korean in appearance ?... Also, IMO.. Anna Sawai round face seems to be slightly Chinese in appearance ?... Maybe it was difficult for the casting director to find a native looking girl, who could speak English....?

@hannotn 5 ай бұрын

What's funny about that? In a sane world it'd be a perfectly reasonable question and would be responded to politely one way or the other.

@Naught696 5 ай бұрын

Uploader is a child

@sigmashorts19 5 ай бұрын

Ok grand pa 😂@@Naught696

@itskarl7575 5 ай бұрын

In a sane world you wouldn't be offered companions of any kind - whether you found someone to sleep with would be a matter of mutual interest and consent. But that is neither here nor there, because feudal Japan isn't something many of us would call sane by any metric.

@blairbreland1443 5 ай бұрын

When does it get funny?

@Patches1603 5 ай бұрын

It's now 👍

@nothinghereligma3363 5 ай бұрын

When your mom shows up

@clash5j 4 ай бұрын

Richard Chamberlain isn't English, but he sure was a better Blackthorne than this guy

@heimdalshorn 5 ай бұрын

...this scene is totally stupid (and missleading) in comparison to the original 1980s Shogun (as are every scene with blackthorn in the new adaption till now....). They made hin an irrelevant, stupid, wussy-boy, secondary figure doushbag.....

@ryankwon8785 5 ай бұрын

Blackthorne is stranded in Japan with no way to return to his home and family. Plus, he is under heavy stress that he will be killed. He will likely act crazy at first but become more mature in the later episodes. Also, he is not irrelevant as he is a walking information bag for Torunaga. Torunaga wants to learn more about the outside world from John, they just need to do it outside of Osaka. Nevertheless, your point still stands.

@oceanberserker 5 ай бұрын

He's one man, stranded and alone, in a land where quite literally almost everyone wants to kill him. What, exactly, do you expect him to do, Slappy?

@heimdalshorn 5 ай бұрын

@@oceanberserker...I expect him to do what he is is doing in the book! His depiction in the new (and terrible) show has absolutly zero to do with the figure in the well known, iconic book. So educate yourself and read the book first before making stupid comments.....!

@oceanberserker 5 ай бұрын

@@heimdalshorn Yes. Because that book wasn't prone to any embellishments or exaggerations at the time AT ALL. #witheringsarcasm

@heimdalshorn 5 ай бұрын

@@oceanberserker..."Shogun" (the book) is historical fiction - if wanting to make a "real historic show" make one about the real Tokugawa Ieyasu and Ishida Mitsunari, or about the real William Adams (Miura Anjin) and do not do "Shogun". But however being historical fiction with all its flaws, the book and the 1980s show depicts a much more historically realistic picture of Japan in 1600 as does the actual new show...(fun fact, I am a graduated military historian and japanologist...)

@VM-is8by 5 ай бұрын

Another "white saviour" story.....

@skyereave9454 5 ай бұрын

Not at all. It even has real life basis.

@SP-yl1qz 5 ай бұрын

Another 'woke' moron who'd rather rewrite history than accept the truth.

@nothinghereligma3363 5 ай бұрын

Ignorance is crazy

@oceanberserker 5 ай бұрын

And once again, dumbassery rears its' ugly head.

@RoccoCarasonne 4 ай бұрын

WHITE PEOPLE #1

@arrocoda3590 5 ай бұрын

I really dislike the anti catholic rhetoric, even if it is historically accurate from a age of discovery protestants POV

@alredir 4 ай бұрын

I actually really like the Catholic character Alvito. Even if his ulterior motives are alongside the Catholic's intentions with Japan, he still has some integrity with his interpretation scene, and his outfit is awesome.