Furries | Down the Rabbit Hole

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Fredrik Knudsen

Fredrik Knudsen

6 жыл бұрын

Furries have ingrained themselves in modern culture, but where did they come from?
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@YMS
@YMS 5 жыл бұрын
Furry drama is always infinitely more hilarious than normal people drama.
@max72590
@max72590 5 жыл бұрын
Hello there!
@Jack-hc5dt
@Jack-hc5dt 5 жыл бұрын
The furry lord has spoken
@murillocosta5044
@murillocosta5044 5 жыл бұрын
YourMovieSucksDOTorg I was wondering when you'd show up
@crazyluigi6664
@crazyluigi6664 5 жыл бұрын
OwO This thread is a fucking party now!
@gabriellarena2256
@gabriellarena2256 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you, It was only a matter of time
@hueyj1975
@hueyj1975 5 жыл бұрын
>rabbit hole >furry oh no
@majamystic256
@majamystic256 5 жыл бұрын
oh yay
@imnotabotiswear3276
@imnotabotiswear3276 5 жыл бұрын
hot
@Cinna3unnz
@Cinna3unnz 5 жыл бұрын
There's no going back
@dandi6871
@dandi6871 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean.. *O WO?*
@yeeter2669
@yeeter2669 5 жыл бұрын
UWU *stammers and shakes* n~n~nn~no???????? What do you mean Pawpi??? Don't you wan to touch bewow my cotten twail????
@Shankniggaz69
@Shankniggaz69 Жыл бұрын
Seeing a fursuit in the 80s is like a fighter jet in the stone age
@Electrolux219
@Electrolux219 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m surprised at how professional some of them look (relatively speaking). You’d think it’d take some time for people to figure out how to make ‘em, but a lot of them still hold up today. Impressive.
@jmtradbr
@jmtradbr Жыл бұрын
13:50 really impressive for the time
@TheRockRock367
@TheRockRock367 Жыл бұрын
No it’s Like seeing a weeb in an active WW2 battlefield
@SwedishEmpire1700
@SwedishEmpire1700 Жыл бұрын
More like being a punching bag at the boxing gym
@asdfssdfghgdfy5940
@asdfssdfghgdfy5940 11 ай бұрын
@@jmtradbri don't really understand how it is impressive for its time, mascot uniforms have been around for ages. There's no real technological advancements (that would change the outcome) in the field in the last 80 years either.
@UncleMarco
@UncleMarco 2 жыл бұрын
“I remember when being a pervert was a bad thing” is one hell of an opening line
@HerrscherPuppet
@HerrscherPuppet Жыл бұрын
It still is a bad thing, it's just that society allows rampant degeneracy more now.
@LionKimbro
@LionKimbro Жыл бұрын
OMG, my favorite line was: "These are the people who use FAO Schwarz as a singles bar." OMFG! I'm dying.
@llamadrama1090
@llamadrama1090 Жыл бұрын
@@LionKimbro mine is "christ on a fire engine"
@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse
@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse Жыл бұрын
Isn't it interesting though, looking at this through the lens of the current era? especially around the now growing trend of trans surgeries and the hundreds of gender identities that get so ridiculous people are trying to introduce literal animal pronouns and things like actual BUGS into their identities? It seems humans have this insatiable desire for group identity...we want to belong to a meaningful group but the problem is, all these groups never speak to MEANINGFUL human values. How much of your life can you dedicate to anthro art? Not a lot. So it has to segment, over and over and OVER until you're left with hyper-niche identities which renders a person essentially a unique individual again, but surrounding themselves with others who happen to share those qualities as well...basically....friends. Look at what main stream religion does. It has groups of like-minded people getting together once (or more) a week to all share their collective beliefs with one another, and from that, stems communal identities. Communal support. What the furry communities have been doing, is what humans have been doing since the dawn of time. Pursuing deep meaning through group identity. But when these groups fail to provide that deep meaning (because its often superficial IDENTITY driven) you end up with shallow fandoms, shallow communities, all attacking one another, dividing over and over again There's no CORE belief holding the furry fandom together. It's literally just a visual artistic representation of animals. Anything further than that gets into religion, like attributing animals to human personality, which is done for example in the Chinese zodiac and Egyptian mythology. Psychology is fascinating. There's nothing a human being can do that would render me speechless, it would just render my mind into an endless assortment of questions. Furries just want to show you whoat the they are on the inside. It's not ALWAYS that they hate who they are (they do sometimes) its that they know, that deep inside, every single human being, there's something special. A "spirit" lets say. That spirit, is invisible, and the furry fandom makes that spirit visible. Which I think is amazing, despite it being of often confused and mislead into deviant human behaviors. Kindred spirits. Lost spirits. They'll find their own way, hopefully. Fascinating story.
@LionKimbro
@LionKimbro Жыл бұрын
@@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse I agree in the main, but want to suggest some ideas. First, I think the group identity follows after the inner dream. I think that “groups of people” in and of themselves, do not think make for meaning. Meaning is a relationship between an event, and the impact of that event on desires. We are social, and dream of society, so that is part of it. But it’s not the only thing- it’s the dream that animated the desire and makes things meaningful. The group identity is meaningless if you don’t care about the group. I think that it just happens that in groups, people have the opportunity to obtain the leverage to bring deep dreams to reality. A “group” of people in itself is not enough. I say this because I think that the kind of anthropological lens towards looking at philosophical ideas of meaning miss the spirit for the body. “Oh, see the bodies find meaning through bodies.” But it misses the plot. I have a friend who says “Star Wars was popular in 1977 just because of the marketing budget.” No, that isn’t why. The furry fandom I suspect DOES have core beliefs. But separate from that, I think that more importantly. the furry fandom shares a core DREAM. And it’s not just the visual artistic representation of animals. That’s another point where it is the shell rather than the essence. If I would stake my guess: The Furry fandom is about the dream of intimacy. It is the dream of feeling unalienated between the human, and the animal, starting with within one’s own skin. It is about the hearth, friendship, and very critically, sexually. It is about warmth, masculinity, and femininity. I think the furry fandom holds the human in suspicion, but rather than pursuing the alien or the transcendental (angels, vampires,) the furry pursues the animal-human mix. I think the reason people feel lost, is because they haven’t seen a representation of their ground in a way that makes sense to them.
@Dv2YT
@Dv2YT 5 жыл бұрын
More like "Up the rabbit's hole"
@mm-rj3vo
@mm-rj3vo 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel v2 yes please.
@galaxiisparc1797
@galaxiisparc1797 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god
@sammijunes
@sammijunes 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel v2 How bout no
@chrisbarnes3864
@chrisbarnes3864 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel v2 how deep does the rabbit hole go?
@randomsht9836
@randomsht9836 5 жыл бұрын
THE COMMENT OF THE WEEK Goes2Daniel v2👏👏
@parasitic777
@parasitic777 4 жыл бұрын
imagine this guys search history after this video.
@Lemonnitenite
@Lemonnitenite 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God incognito exists
@SteadFast411
@SteadFast411 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine it in general, Chris-Chan, Neopets, the Final Fantasy house, furries, that weird Teresa book, Austrian wine, the list goes on.
@kateneonne6757
@kateneonne6757 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine his targeted ads bc of it
@stuckonaslide
@stuckonaslide 4 жыл бұрын
"old 1970s furry pornography "old furry magazines" "am i a furry?" "why do i find animals attractive" "old anime"
@SteadFast411
@SteadFast411 4 жыл бұрын
@@stuckonaslide "old anime catgirls" "Am I a weeb?" "Weeb or furry, which best to identify?"
@SomeGuy-tr2hi
@SomeGuy-tr2hi 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a furry, but I do consider myself furry adjacent due to my involvement in the Funny Vegetable and Funny Mineral fandoms
@TsovoaLevone
@TsovoaLevone Жыл бұрын
Yes, VeggieTales characters and the stones from Mouse Soup!
@AlexofZippo
@AlexofZippo Жыл бұрын
The idea of an anti-gay, anti-kink furry movement sounds to me like the ideological equivalent of a movement of fish who want to summit Everest
@DJDubieWubie
@DJDubieWubie Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@moonlit_ruffles
@moonlit_ruffles 8 ай бұрын
Honestly real
@ghost_1153
@ghost_1153 7 ай бұрын
You're missing the point that's not the problem. The problem is pedophilia, zoophilia etc. not being gay
@puffermanman
@puffermanman 7 ай бұрын
​@@ghost_1153While yes that is a problem in the world its only a small problem in the furry community since only 4% of people in the furry community are pedos/zoos. U might think the number is higher but its only because social media mostly shows the bad part of the furry community so people think most or all furries are pedos/zoos.
@dragonicdragon3460
@dragonicdragon3460 5 ай бұрын
Eeee maybe that was the intention somewhere sometime. In reality the fandom has never had an issue with that, if people commit these crimes then theire not welcome in the fandom and that is common consensus. The burnt furs spiraled into nazis. Full blown nazis with flags and these arm ties and everything. The original posts might have made an obbious point that common decency should be held up in the fandom, but was already very hateful and aggresive. And the movement developed away from anything sensical and just became fa​scist nonsense. @@ghost_1153
@artemiswolf4508
@artemiswolf4508 3 жыл бұрын
The furry fandom lasted more than the confederacy.
@DaxMarko
@DaxMarko 3 жыл бұрын
@@derrick73 your name is your answer
@redtiger179
@redtiger179 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Rainfurrest! It's outlasted 2 conventions!
@salj.5459
@salj.5459 3 жыл бұрын
DaxMarko Your mom is the answer
@pokelegos
@pokelegos 3 жыл бұрын
The furry "nation" is goddamn ancient compared to the Confederacy. If i have my dates right, over 40 years old or almost 40 as of 2020
@spacejokcy2285
@spacejokcy2285 3 жыл бұрын
That’s because we can’t kill them
@Mistertbones
@Mistertbones 4 жыл бұрын
The furry community predates the internet. Never knew that.
@shreknskrubgaming7248
@shreknskrubgaming7248 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like quite a few people don't ever realize that. Same thing where most people think the porn came first and that everyone who identifies as a furry is just a pervert. Which, by the way, (unrelated to your comment but it's been bugging me) that letter that chick wrote honestly annoyed me. How can a person care so much about what turns a person on? Seriously, I could never see myself being that disturbed by such a petty thing.
@gokinezula1689
@gokinezula1689 4 жыл бұрын
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 right? like fr bro.
@shreknskrubgaming7248
@shreknskrubgaming7248 4 жыл бұрын
@@gokinezula1689 I've had my fair share of moments where I see some weird porn and go "oh, that's a bit much. I don't want to see that again" but that's really as far as it should get. I'll never understand the people who get so offended by fetishes. We all have at least one surely. I know I've got quite a few. As long as you're not doing something incredibly illegal or hurting someone without their consent do whatever you damn well please idgaf
@jfm14
@jfm14 4 жыл бұрын
@@shreknskrubgaming7248 This! Everything you said. 👏👏
@shreknskrubgaming7248
@shreknskrubgaming7248 4 жыл бұрын
@@jfm14 appreciate it!
@Hotsaucebauce3943
@Hotsaucebauce3943 2 жыл бұрын
I expected furry drama, I got a 40 minute lecture on philosophy
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 2 жыл бұрын
Society🤔
@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse
@CircumcisionIsChildAbuse Жыл бұрын
yah this is more psychology than philosophy. granted there is some over lap. But the study of human behavior is more the domain of sociology, anthropology and psychology than philosophy. Philosophy deals with ideas. Furry isn't an idea. It's an identity.
@blocky_luke
@blocky_luke Жыл бұрын
I went to court and got banned from a discord server for a month for banning a furry, worth it.
@DioTheGreatOne
@DioTheGreatOne Жыл бұрын
Hello my fellow Faith the Unholy Trinity enjoyer
@sharkenjoyer
@sharkenjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@blocky_luke Me when I'm applying to the unfunny contest and I see that Blocky_Luke will be my opponent: Oh hell naw
@VillyVespertine
@VillyVespertine 4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Mark Merlino passed away passed away earlier this month. He has done so much for the fandom, rest in peace.
@TheMasterPlayer-uo6ms
@TheMasterPlayer-uo6ms 4 ай бұрын
Fortunately*
@bluekewne
@bluekewne 4 ай бұрын
​@@TheMasterPlayer-uo6ms *Anime avatar detected - commence simultaneous purge of weaboos & furries*
@merendyne
@merendyne 3 ай бұрын
@@TheMasterPlayer-uo6ms Grow up
@jaapaap123
@jaapaap123 3 ай бұрын
"done so much for the fandom"... he shat his diapers? Anyway, good riddance!
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 3 ай бұрын
I guess that aside from people who have watched this video only furrys over 40 years old have heard of him
@yellowpie
@yellowpie 5 жыл бұрын
I like hearing the phrase “funny animal fandom” being spoken in a completely deadpan voice.
@pyoxydoge2566
@pyoxydoge2566 5 жыл бұрын
yourfetishesaregettingreallyspecific.png
@GearTech147
@GearTech147 5 жыл бұрын
@@pyoxydoge2566 DIES.JPEG
@jackrose3542
@jackrose3542 5 жыл бұрын
Pyoxy Doge dude that word turns me on
@memememr46
@memememr46 5 жыл бұрын
@@GearTech147 do I look like I know what a jpeg is?
@jamesl5203
@jamesl5203 5 жыл бұрын
@@memememr46 it's just a different type of Picture File
@rhuwa6735
@rhuwa6735 4 жыл бұрын
It's physically impossible to analyze the furry community without DeviantArt coming up.
@dreska255
@dreska255 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, DeviantArt will literally come up with anything. I one time stumbled upon an account which I could only best describe as "furry but with airplanes"
@tehepicduckeh1409
@tehepicduckeh1409 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreska255 ah, aeromorphs
@killerkitten7534
@killerkitten7534 4 жыл бұрын
So many fetishes I’ve discovered just going through the deviantart rabbit hole like radiation pregnancy
@JosyDominicanMamiQueenones
@JosyDominicanMamiQueenones 4 жыл бұрын
Or furafinity
@brayanfelipeserrano6486
@brayanfelipeserrano6486 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreska255 something something, It could just be described as the Waltersache gallery.
@FortniteBalls5634
@FortniteBalls5634 2 жыл бұрын
Super realistic ARG, almost convinced me that furries were real lol. Last line gave me goosebumps too, chilling.
@unusedscreedican
@unusedscreedican 2 жыл бұрын
what
@therealgeneralMacArthur
@therealgeneralMacArthur 2 жыл бұрын
@@unusedscreedican what, did you think furries are actually real?
@unusedscreedican
@unusedscreedican 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealgeneralMacArthur well i mean im here
@therealgeneralMacArthur
@therealgeneralMacArthur 2 жыл бұрын
@@unusedscreedican nice try, federal. I know these fucks ain't real
@pepepepinazo9694
@pepepepinazo9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@unusedscreedican no you're not
@The_NW_EngineYT
@The_NW_EngineYT 7 ай бұрын
DANG, this fandom is older than I thought! it's incredible to see just how far back the fandom's development goes.
@loathy4528
@loathy4528 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing a furry suit in the 1980s is like seeing a M-16 in the War of 1812
@dreadz3758
@dreadz3758 3 жыл бұрын
I think they had Halloween costumes back in the day... those suits aren't too far off. They fall somewhere between "budget costume" and "movie quality." Before the birth of civil society, cave dwellers wore animal furs... so who's the real furry now?
@nikokrol7773
@nikokrol7773 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, i agree. It's like seeing SpongeBob in 1930's.
@candlesticks8
@candlesticks8 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like seeing Anime in Ancient Rome
@notablediscomfort
@notablediscomfort 3 жыл бұрын
It's like seeing a German ww1 tank. Makes sense. You know they were there. You know they were lonely. And you wish you coulda been there to witness it.
@csm5040
@csm5040 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like seeing Tik Tok on medieval Europe
@hotdiggedydemon
@hotdiggedydemon 5 жыл бұрын
Is this a video about Dan from Game Grumps
@TheNukaColaMan10
@TheNukaColaMan10 5 жыл бұрын
yahoo Now class, let's all study how NOT to write a cohesive sentence.
@northernpuffer9222
@northernpuffer9222 5 жыл бұрын
q
@saturnjr9136
@saturnjr9136 5 жыл бұрын
hotdiggedydemon You really shouldn’t have punched Dan’s wife
@WeegeeSlayer123
@WeegeeSlayer123 5 жыл бұрын
hotdiggedydemon Max G is an alt-right furry. He's both a gopher, and the grand wizard. (Joking)
@wecez4382
@wecez4382 5 жыл бұрын
OUR GOD HAS SPOKEN
@cptbr2119
@cptbr2119 Жыл бұрын
I had to do classmate interviews in my creative writing class in high school. Interviewed a quiet kid and he told me he was a furry in the interview. I didn't understand the extent of what that was but proceeded to tell the class all about it and mortifying my teacher in the process.
@fur.theory
@fur.theory 7 ай бұрын
That’s kinda a messed up thing to do, but I guess you didn’t know what a furry was or how people would react. And he didn’t know rule number one is to NEVER tell anyone. Because people hate us.
@ohhhhdear
@ohhhhdear 3 ай бұрын
damn i bet they don’t enjoy you as a person much anymore huh
@commanderkris93
@commanderkris93 2 ай бұрын
My guy literally destroyed someones life.
@fblack9033
@fblack9033 Ай бұрын
@@fur.theory And for GOOD REASON.
@fur.theory
@fur.theory Ай бұрын
@@fblack9033 nope, lil bro did not watch the video. This fandom is a creative outlet and a safe place.
@haileyshannon7548
@haileyshannon7548 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the mid-90s, my mom telling me some kids at my school got in trouble for emailing each other pictures of “cartoon animals having sex”! We all loved Disney and other stuff like that (some more than others), but I never knew such stuff existed.
@pigmentpeddler5811
@pigmentpeddler5811 Жыл бұрын
That bambussy
@Jan-van-RieBeeck
@Jan-van-RieBeeck Жыл бұрын
​@@pigmentpeddler5811that shits magical😩😩😩
@nunononumuno6509
@nunononumuno6509 Жыл бұрын
​@@Jan-van-RieBeeckhope it doesn't get shot
@jingbot1071
@jingbot1071 10 ай бұрын
@@pigmentpeddler5811 Kill that shiz like Bambis mom yo
@jurassicsmackdown6359
@jurassicsmackdown6359 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like potential for being a stone-age shitpost lmao
@Nexpo
@Nexpo 5 жыл бұрын
👁 W 👁
@Eduardie
@Eduardie 5 жыл бұрын
👁 M 👁
@frosteequest3068
@frosteequest3068 5 жыл бұрын
my boi nightmare expo here
@ChrisT4rmKT
@ChrisT4rmKT 5 жыл бұрын
•3•
@hiddentrack
@hiddentrack 5 жыл бұрын
Top 10 anime crossovers.
@mikeoxlong1395
@mikeoxlong1395 5 жыл бұрын
NO!
@randomboy3m98
@randomboy3m98 5 жыл бұрын
"What exactly happened at these parties is undocumented" good.
@soldiert0144
@soldiert0144 4 жыл бұрын
alright then keep your secrets.
@DronZizzle
@DronZizzle 4 жыл бұрын
"there were people who would sabotage the convention any way they could" good
@drugbustincat4108
@drugbustincat4108 4 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh so hard. Pretty sure they were documented it was just so obscene Knudsen decided to just not talk about lmao
@WereScrib
@WereScrib 4 жыл бұрын
If it's the 'old' parties in the early 90s, honestly, they weren't that terrible. I think he was avoiding delving too deep into the old CYD archives and such. But a lot of them were, from the rumor mill and attendees--Mostly videogames, bootleg anime, and the religious watching of Animalympics, or screenings of cartoons before they were officially released, often due to the connections people in the parties had with animation. Later parties tend to change dramatically based on the group makeup. They run the range from very much gay swinger meetups, to LAN parties, to just sitting down and watching film. The ones I've been to, due to friends dragging me along mostly have been: 1) Why are these people not using the bedroom, I'm a lil uncomfortable with this. I think I'm gonna just focus on the movie and not THAT going on next to me. 2) Hanging out with nerdy lesbian girls, talking about The Secret World, and getting involved in the local Secret World community that was a thing at the time. Somehow the only one that involved talking about fetishes, as there was a discussion on softvore and one lady's extensive dildo collection, that she also doesn't use as she had a fear of penetration. 3) Videogames and MST3k. And then more videogames and MST3k. And D&D when we got sick of it. 4) Walk in the woods to talk about ethics and religion. 5) Drawmeets, where people just sit down, shoot shit, and attempt to draw as much as possible.
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 4 жыл бұрын
Really? I feel like documentation from these old parties would be hilarious and entertaining. To hear some of the wild stuff furries ACTUALLY got/get into would be major 🍿 🍿 🍿
@Itsgotahemi
@Itsgotahemi 9 ай бұрын
The signs have been on the wall for years, you're actually a one of them...
@caius8614
@caius8614 Жыл бұрын
This comment section is INSANE I stop by every now and then and I need to start collecting some of these.
@ISOCATO
@ISOCATO Жыл бұрын
Hi
@likingandsubscribing
@likingandsubscribing Жыл бұрын
A furry? 💀
@caius8614
@caius8614 Жыл бұрын
@@likingandsubscribing nawh its just a character from a show i like :^)
@paperhat_boi
@paperhat_boi Жыл бұрын
@@caius8614 is said show has many furries in it or just this charater is neat?
@daveroll6463
@daveroll6463 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@paperhat_boiits bluey which is a kids show that many non-furries like lmao
@nobrainer1330
@nobrainer1330 3 жыл бұрын
Could've just said it started from Lola bunny in space jam and I'd believe you.
@mateussilva635
@mateussilva635 3 жыл бұрын
That seed was definitely planted in me, it just didn't receive enough care haha
@ShiftyGuy777
@ShiftyGuy777 3 жыл бұрын
@Pyro If you think that's bad, then play TF2 on PS3/XBOX 360.
@nathancalvert6757
@nathancalvert6757 3 жыл бұрын
Nah Robin Hood came out before that
@DarkElfDiva
@DarkElfDiva 3 жыл бұрын
Sally Acorn stirred it in me.
@WillowLackett
@WillowLackett 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShiftyGuy777 there's no such thing
@ScrolledAgain
@ScrolledAgain 5 жыл бұрын
The guy whose hobby was bootlegging cartoons and showing them it in his hotel room looks EXACTLY how you would think someone who bootlegs cartoons and shows them in their hotel room would look
@DodgyDaveGTX
@DodgyDaveGTX 5 жыл бұрын
Like a nonce?
@jackrose3542
@jackrose3542 5 жыл бұрын
Frazol DuSplönken like a nonce
@thatrandompieceofgumiifoun7621
@thatrandompieceofgumiifoun7621 5 жыл бұрын
He looks like he's from St Louis
@crazyryan6583
@crazyryan6583 5 жыл бұрын
thats where that sterotype came from genius
@jackrose3542
@jackrose3542 5 жыл бұрын
that random pieceof gum I I found on the street what does that even mean
@BonkeyDong67
@BonkeyDong67 Жыл бұрын
Let's collectively take a moment to appreciate the stars that aligned to produce "Down the Rabbit Hole" and a history of furries in the same title. Also god damn, that puritanical purge manifesto read like someone cosplaying furry Hitler. There were some pretty dark undertones going on with that
@28Hazefur
@28Hazefur 2 ай бұрын
Unsuprisingly there was a good deal of overlap between the Burned Furs and the Nazi furs, with even Foxler (yes actually) having claimed himself to be amongst their number. An incarnation of Burned furs have made a small comeback in the furry fandom of today, with namely older teens who want to sanitize the furry fandom. This has gottwn caught up in the much larger purge of zoophiles from the community as a whole, which looks to be actually working thankfully.
@DefaultFlame
@DefaultFlame 10 ай бұрын
This was surprisingly more in-depth than I expected, which I suppose shouldn't be as much of a surprise considering the level of research Mr. Knudsen seems to do for all his videos.
@PiraticalNonsense
@PiraticalNonsense 4 жыл бұрын
"So what are furries?" ...It all started with Disney...
@cypherdastro8105
@cypherdastro8105 4 жыл бұрын
Ehhhh, sort of. Disney themselves took inspiration from the funny animal style used in the late 1800s but even then the use of animals with human proportions and/or features can date back as far as say the Egyptians. I think we as humans just had this coming but didn't realise it until it was too late. I'm not complainin', I'm just sayin'.
@haroldfarthington7492
@haroldfarthington7492 4 жыл бұрын
Cypher Dastro wait did Aesop’s come before or after the Egyptians. I’m not for sure
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, it all started in the Stone Age.
@FrostWolfPack
@FrostWolfPack 4 жыл бұрын
Its funny that I have found few picks from interenet as some places had either shown or sold old and I mean old sculpures showing muscular lion headed female, about 4000-5000 years old.
@vistagreat9994
@vistagreat9994 4 жыл бұрын
...so it all started in ANCIENT EGYPT?
@QbertTehKiller
@QbertTehKiller 4 жыл бұрын
Tried googling “furries rabbit hole” to find this vid for a friend and I am now full of regret
@Schindlabua
@Schindlabua 4 жыл бұрын
41:51 try "Fat Furs". I'm not sure my innocent eyes needed to see that.
@pauldickinson3961
@pauldickinson3961 4 жыл бұрын
*Seinfeld theme plays*
@101Volts
@101Volts 4 жыл бұрын
You found the YouPorn version, didn't you?
@JeffWithAnF
@JeffWithAnF 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Dickinson spit my drink when i read this lmao
@lucmart1470
@lucmart1470 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap
@user-fk6sd2pg3b
@user-fk6sd2pg3b 8 ай бұрын
I didn't even notice this video is 5 years ago, it's very good quality and looks like it was made recently. good job on this Fredrik Knudsen
@clockhead9023
@clockhead9023 2 жыл бұрын
i never thought the furry fandom had such a long and complex history that overlaps with other fandoms
@Its_Asteria
@Its_Asteria Жыл бұрын
Yep! Thus the explainaition of kt being an extension of other communities and topics is pretty true. It's similar to cosplay and Sci fi n such
@chamuuemura5314
@chamuuemura5314 11 ай бұрын
Being in Japan I haven’t heard of it beyond happy go lucky cosplaying into recently. Was shocked this video is 4 years old. Was more shocked to learn it started years before I was ever born. Was more shocked to learn how perverted it was. The overwhelming majority of cosplayers I know do it for the challenge of making a costume as much as dressing in it. They dress up, do a few photo shoots in the park, and then get to work on their next costume. Furries in the US seem to be people using it as a fetish which is really kind of sad because they’re doing it to fill a need in consumption instead of having fun in production.
@Hal_142
@Hal_142 5 жыл бұрын
so basically, not even the furry fandom is safe from the furry fandom.
@andgodsaiduntoabraham
@andgodsaiduntoabraham 5 жыл бұрын
...Which is why I stay far from it.
@configured4357
@configured4357 5 жыл бұрын
Furries makes sure to make fun of other furries as much as possible.
@GigawingsVideo
@GigawingsVideo 5 жыл бұрын
What do you expect from a bunch of degenerates. No one need to do anything they start destroying each other.
@SpongeMagic
@SpongeMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah basically. The whole fandom is kind of a madhouse.
@GoatyCultist
@GoatyCultist 5 жыл бұрын
Furries ruin everything. Including furries.
@spinelcanonicallylistensto3737
@spinelcanonicallylistensto3737 3 жыл бұрын
"down the rabbit hole" furries: mmmmmmmmmm
@tayzatun6351
@tayzatun6351 3 жыл бұрын
no
@RF-Ataraxia
@RF-Ataraxia 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like where this is going
@1.8millionvolts87
@1.8millionvolts87 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no you don't
@prismpawsstudios5154
@prismpawsstudios5154 3 жыл бұрын
i dont like this post
@TheAnizenYT
@TheAnizenYT 3 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck
@TheBlackEntity
@TheBlackEntity Жыл бұрын
Imagine my horror, having only known of furries as a fringe group of enthusiasts born and contained within the Internet - extrapolating from my experience on old social media sites and video game culture... and then being informed that *in the year I was born* - the "original" furries were at the height of their power, AND were some of the earliest adopters of anime in the States. My entire existence is a prank at this point, man. I'm at a loss for words.
@camilohiche4475
@camilohiche4475 Жыл бұрын
Dude, I know right. I was born in 85. A totally different era to me from now. Michael Jackson, pop music, blockbuster flicks, NES and arcade games... I can't even accept that in the 80ies this shit was already a thing. In my mind I have always associated this movement with the rise of internet platforms as a central way to interact with the world, so with the early 2000's, because never ever before across my childhood and teenage years I had heard of this.
@talkssometimes
@talkssometimes Жыл бұрын
lol get trolled
@danieldubrovin8813
@danieldubrovin8813 Жыл бұрын
Time is the cruellest thing that has effected humanity yet it is nothing but a human construct
@standard-carrier-wo-chan
@standard-carrier-wo-chan Жыл бұрын
@@danieldubrovin8813 Yo how is time a human construct tho?
@werbizzy
@werbizzy Жыл бұрын
@@standard-carrier-wo-chan hours, days, months, years, all part of the christian calendar. one example of people using a different calendar was during the french revolution where they used different “seconds”
@supacoolMkIIIV_yeet
@supacoolMkIIIV_yeet 5 ай бұрын
I watched the full thing and dude, split this into a few episodes and bam u have a Netflix masterpiece ready to bring in the green also bro ur voice is chill that probably what got me through
@TheGreatHsilgne
@TheGreatHsilgne 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna start calling furry characters "funny animals" from now on.
@LunaIsOnYoutube
@LunaIsOnYoutube 4 жыл бұрын
You are going to get stabbed in an alley one day due to this
@samueljacksonactuallylaugh4906
@samueljacksonactuallylaugh4906 4 жыл бұрын
TheSmart_ Protogen highly doubtful, mr. funny animal enthusiast.
@itsfine5818
@itsfine5818 4 жыл бұрын
@@LunaIsOnKZfaq Your sentence carries an implication that furries would go outside, which is almost as funny as the funny animals that they draw
@TheWizardofSpeedandTime
@TheWizardofSpeedandTime 4 жыл бұрын
@@itsfine5818 You have now been cursed to marry or birth a funny animal. I don't make the rules here.
@emborg3145
@emborg3145 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@OtherMomo
@OtherMomo 4 жыл бұрын
i like how it started with "we want more silly unserious comedy, people are too serious and mainstream" and then the 80s rolled by and then "we need more serios takes on our interests in the mainstream"
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 4 жыл бұрын
Attitudes change. Overcorrection happens.
@mad-mullah3117
@mad-mullah3117 4 жыл бұрын
Large population joined and brought their stupidity with them..it was silly then it became silly serious
@flyhighskyguy9972
@flyhighskyguy9972 4 жыл бұрын
I like how it went from just cutting the restrictions and just fucking around to serious hardcore porn
@ashleybyrd2015
@ashleybyrd2015 4 жыл бұрын
@@flyhighskyguy9972 Welcome to "the urge to reproduce which is necessary to facilitate the continued existence of an intelligent species but has negative side effects such as the inevitable invention of art moving into pornography"
@ammendum9044
@ammendum9044 4 жыл бұрын
So basically, it went from an ironic fandom to an unironic one.
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 2 жыл бұрын
4:09 I've often wondered what furries find so fascinating in anthropomorphic cartoon animals, compared to cartoon characters in general. I think this letter finally shed some clarity on that for me. Like they say, humans are serious, human-shaped animals aren't. Combine it with animal characters possessing traditionally easy-to-recognize traits that allow creators to avoid irksome human complexities, and it all makes sense.
@Its_Asteria
@Its_Asteria Жыл бұрын
Yep! And it allows the characters to be more akin. No controversies no discrimination. Just funny human-like animals that are basically humans but look fluffy. That's a big part of the appeal.
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth Жыл бұрын
@@Its_Asteria | It's also fascinating to me that y'all will tend to gravitate to the same handful of animals. Canine shapes clearly being the most popular. Any idea why that may be, aside from the positive connotations such imagery brings?
@buttondowndingo
@buttondowndingo 11 ай бұрын
​@@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworthHI! Furry of seven years here. It might be just that! Canids (and by extension felids) were so present in such q large population of people's lives, be it through a childhood pet, a favorite media, a favorite animal, or just what kind of animal you could see yourself as. Though a lot of the times, it's also "I think that one looks cool, I'd like my character to be that." It is really interesting, though. I think a lot of the canine sona's come from (without going back to the previous acknowledgments) is just how popular canines tend to be in American (where most furries tend to be) pop culture. Think Balto, Paw-Patrol, those stupid "alpha Lone wolf" shirts that so many middle-aged dads wear for some reason. It's a recognizable species that you can look at and just go "yep, that's a dog right there," no matter what style they're applied in, I mean. Look at Bluey (albeit, not American, but you get the point), those bastards are cylinders, and you can still tell they're dogs. It could also be band-wagon philosophy, a young/new furry sees how many people have canine songs and jump on with them.
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth 11 ай бұрын
@@buttondowndingo | Thanks for taking the time to give me this analysis! What interests me even more though is how there seems to be a definitive furry artstyle. While individual styles do sometimes show up, I've noticed that the majority of fursonas I see online tend to lean towards a very specific "Disney-ish animal mascot" style. Is that the result of the media they grew up with? How do you think it'll evolve with time?
@buttondowndingo
@buttondowndingo 11 ай бұрын
@potatopatato6610 That's more of a common "poster style" that more popular artists (Falfie is one to mention. Though we don't particularly like her much anymore) use. But art styles (including my own) are usually a big mesh of different inspirations, Disney is always a popular one because of just how much of a presence it has over almost every community centered around art ever. I think they're going to stay the same for the foreseeable future. The big artists in the fandom have always had some sort of a semi-toony style, with exaggerated features. I don't think it'll change anytime soon. But I have noticed a shift with more "loose" anatomy and features, really throwing the concept of "semi-realistic anatomy" at a wall and making out pf the resulting mush. A lot of furry artists are embracing the cartoon-iness and absurdity of it all, and I'm so happy to see it.
@KristinaKarina
@KristinaKarina 2 жыл бұрын
I remember these Fanzines - I had an S.C.A. Friend who was also into Red Dwarf, and contributed to a fanzine BBS group. This is back in the day when you had to actually use snail-mail for fanzines…. I met up with SCA nerds at events, and there was a huge crossover into D&D/BDSM/SciFi - complete nerds!
@ozkul_arda200
@ozkul_arda200 4 жыл бұрын
So a Victorian guy drawing humanoid frogs caused furries?
@Wearywastrel
@Wearywastrel 4 жыл бұрын
Betcha Mr. Toad will take you on the wildest ride wink wink Lol omg that's the worst thought I've had in a while. :'D
@nicholaslienandjaja1815
@nicholaslienandjaja1815 4 жыл бұрын
Technically, drawing anthropomorphic animals go a LONG way, possibly dating back to the Stone Age. Perhaps the most notable anthropomorphic depictions are some of the deities of Ancient Egypt (particularly Anubis (jackal), Ra (falcon), Horus (also falcon), Sobek (crocodile), Bastet (cat), Sekhmet (lioness), Thoth (ibis, or in Australia, "bin chicken"), and Seth (Seth Beast/Typhonic Beast/Sha, possibly a mythical animal)). In fact, Anubis and Bastet are popular among furries who are also history buffs, and Sobek is ESPECIALLY popular with scalies.
@thehermit8618
@thehermit8618 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholaslienandjaja1815 so you're telling me, that ancient egyptians are the first furries?
@DFE-wu9lq
@DFE-wu9lq 4 жыл бұрын
Ot was bacause Charles Darwin monkey caricature.
@saturnian1
@saturnian1 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@NathanTheMan
@NathanTheMan 4 жыл бұрын
Give this man an award he went through the whole thing and never uttered “My Little Pony” or “Nintendo.”
@hazardperceptiontest
@hazardperceptiontest 4 жыл бұрын
an entire 44 minutes without my little pony or nintendo.
@bloofyworld7632
@bloofyworld7632 4 жыл бұрын
They're too mainstream anyway. And I say that as a fan of Nintendo (and Sega) characters. The indie scene is awesome nowadays!
@BillehBobJoe
@BillehBobJoe 4 жыл бұрын
what does nintendo have to do with furries? starfox? animal crossing? only two guesses i have
@willemkauwela
@willemkauwela 4 жыл бұрын
@Logan Weatherhead but those are monsters, not anthropomorphic animals
@doughhhboi1731
@doughhhboi1731 4 жыл бұрын
@@willemkauwela isabelle
@patrickl.7055
@patrickl.7055 Жыл бұрын
I like to believe that when Fredrik does a "Sidenote" it really is just a mini Down the Rabbit Hole episode. Be cool to see this idea manifest into a series on the channel.
@zamiadams4343
@zamiadams4343 Жыл бұрын
Another superb documentary on this amazing channel of yours, bravo!
@qwerty123sc
@qwerty123sc 3 жыл бұрын
"He really wasn't a furry, but he didn't mind them, and let them in his DnD games" That's how it starts
@gairisiuil
@gairisiuil 3 жыл бұрын
i have furries in my dnd games, they're fine
@qwerty123sc
@qwerty123sc 3 жыл бұрын
@@gairisiuil I'm a furry who plays dnd, and hand to god, campaigns generally end with more players being furries than when it began
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 3 жыл бұрын
@@qwerty123sc Such is the reason why I was excited to have a DM for us to play, then found out he was a furry and was significantly less excited. Then he started us in a village of furries. Then he started making one of the NPCs romance me. Gosh I'm glad that campaign ended. Our belligerent party member accidentally blew up a potion shop and turned the village into a crater.
@Darca1n
@Darca1n 3 жыл бұрын
@@WasatchWind That's just a shit DM that coincidentally is a furry.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 3 жыл бұрын
@@Darca1n Oh I don't think it was BECAUSE they were a furry. It was just weird.
@ScotsmanProductions
@ScotsmanProductions 5 жыл бұрын
“Furries. They’re everywhere. And there’s many more of them than you think...” -Internet Historian, 2018
@kelavus5671
@kelavus5671 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh yes internet historian, it seems you are a man of culture as well
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 5 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Chenault and Kero, uh, actually, let's just call him "He who shall not be named." from now on. He is the Furry Voldemort after all..
@15098D
@15098D 5 жыл бұрын
Kelavus *sips tea*
@user-rm1jp6hf5h
@user-rm1jp6hf5h 5 жыл бұрын
*2017
@YippityDingleDoo
@YippityDingleDoo 5 жыл бұрын
Guess I gotta start burning houses
@MrNoob64
@MrNoob64 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow! For me, this is extra information not mentioned in the Fandom documentary Ash Coyote made. This talks even more about of how the fandom was created! What a great video!
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 Жыл бұрын
After watching this i found Ash Coyote and binge-watched his amazing documentaries. Fast becoming Furry-obsessed!
@Its_Asteria
@Its_Asteria Жыл бұрын
​@@martinharris5017Ash is female. Though I don't blame you for not knowing since ash coyote comes off a bit masculine as a name.
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 Жыл бұрын
@@Its_Asteria Thanks, until a few days ago I hadn't seen Ash "unmasked". I understand Ash is trans female? Please correct me if I'm wrong about that! Thanks and all the best to you Martin aka Keneko The Anthro-tiger;) (yeah, i have a fursona now)
@nevada9580
@nevada9580 Жыл бұрын
Hearing you talk about the elevator will never leave my head.
@aidanmcglone7090
@aidanmcglone7090 4 жыл бұрын
Just because I’m a rapping rat doesn’t mean I’m a furry
@ruthenian.wisdom
@ruthenian.wisdom 3 жыл бұрын
Furry above me ☝️
@humakhan80
@humakhan80 3 жыл бұрын
IT'S YOU!! 1!!1!1! BE IN MIDNIGHT CLUB 3 DUB EDITION REMIX
@featheredmask924
@featheredmask924 3 жыл бұрын
*biggie cheese walks in* what's up guys it's BIGGIE CHEESE
@platinum_bucket4151
@platinum_bucket4151 3 жыл бұрын
omg it's him
@austinhangs5577
@austinhangs5577 3 жыл бұрын
i think this belongs here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7CCf6Zzx53Ve2w.html
@peter-peterpumpkineater4982
@peter-peterpumpkineater4982 4 жыл бұрын
The introduction of anime was basically a case of "show me yours and I'll show you mine"
@gungisgrand225
@gungisgrand225 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the Japanese equivalent to "weebs" are
@okumuracosplay8316
@okumuracosplay8316 4 жыл бұрын
Gungis Grand americanphiles
@FatCatSnuggles
@FatCatSnuggles 4 жыл бұрын
Yankies
@rmurphy440m
@rmurphy440m 4 жыл бұрын
Yankmes?
@letsnotdothat975
@letsnotdothat975 4 жыл бұрын
@@gungisgrand225 Westaboo? Waabs?
@freelancenerd4804
@freelancenerd4804 2 жыл бұрын
I just found u from J.J.’s channel sorry it took so long but I gotta tell u, ur content is pretty amazing. Ur story telling is close to second to none and I appreciate it! I’m subscribing!! Also I have a friend that’s a huge trek fan, he went to a furrie con and said their were more orgies then he had ever seen….
@nilzerYT
@nilzerYT Жыл бұрын
this is actually a really interesting video you’ve earned a sub
@Hapasan808
@Hapasan808 5 жыл бұрын
"What is, a furry?"... ...*fade from black an old photo of a 1920's Walt Disney's Studios*
@mmeers89
@mmeers89 5 жыл бұрын
Your knowledge of the land shall be great.
@nomad4163
@nomad4163 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason I Imagined that being read by Ryan from FortNine
@Vegepen
@Vegepen 5 жыл бұрын
The Codex of Ultimate Wisdom?
@spasticpug5209
@spasticpug5209 5 жыл бұрын
*Turns into a Fritz the cat film*
@MrShs812
@MrShs812 5 жыл бұрын
*Zooptopia theme begins*
@MYG
@MYG 5 жыл бұрын
Your series title and this topic go so well together or terribly depending on how you look at it.
@zed755
@zed755 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't think of it that way until you said it. What have you done
@GDOsmium
@GDOsmium 5 жыл бұрын
Bronze God damn it
@squishyykat1548
@squishyykat1548 5 жыл бұрын
That took me a second but god damn...
@MrNiceVoice
@MrNiceVoice 5 жыл бұрын
I love how good this comment goes with your profile picture. Just nonchalantly telling it like it is while plucking that stache
@lethauntic
@lethauntic 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@EmperorMatticusII
@EmperorMatticusII 2 жыл бұрын
“The darkness is insidious, terror and madness can bind cracks in the sturdiest of armors…the most resolute of minds..” - Wayne June, DD
@Grantly
@Grantly Жыл бұрын
These videos are all absolute evergreen.
@josephtillson7481
@josephtillson7481 4 жыл бұрын
Man i Wonder where furries got their start “By the 1940s...”
@TheMissileHappy
@TheMissileHappy 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised Pikachu face
@isaacbukata8957
@isaacbukata8957 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he really took a step back with that one off the bat
@jackjhonson5757
@jackjhonson5757 3 жыл бұрын
We won but at what cost
@XSilver_WaterX
@XSilver_WaterX 3 жыл бұрын
In older mythologies people just "play" with various animals and demi-humans were born.
@Oddtooth
@Oddtooth 3 жыл бұрын
@Nikola Leviathan they way you said that made you sound like a nazi-
@giannieditsvideos
@giannieditsvideos 3 жыл бұрын
>Funny mineral fandom Imagine an alternative timelines where instead of furries these guys had taken off and called themselves Geos or whatever
@iceran9622
@iceran9622 3 жыл бұрын
I think fucking minerals would be better then fucking animals
@freddy4603
@freddy4603 3 жыл бұрын
welcome to Steven Universe
@flux.aeterna
@flux.aeterna 3 жыл бұрын
Paging Rebecca Sugar
@pickingwithdick4240
@pickingwithdick4240 3 жыл бұрын
@@freddy4603 :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD SUPER LEL.
@trannusaran6164
@trannusaran6164 3 жыл бұрын
So Steven Universe, then
@-French-Fry-
@-French-Fry- 8 ай бұрын
Amazing job! Love the video and how it's done❤
@LampseekerForevermore
@LampseekerForevermore 2 жыл бұрын
The reason they are so common now is the exponential growth of the fandom. It’s the fastest growing fandom in the world and it’s rate of spread increases every year
@JustHereForTheDialogue
@JustHereForTheDialogue 4 ай бұрын
Very true. Makes it harder to regulate bad actors.
@user-iy5ww2hj4p
@user-iy5ww2hj4p 3 ай бұрын
Nah imagine furry fandom being bigger than some religions in a few decades 😮
@ArtistTheArtist05
@ArtistTheArtist05 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of professionalism it takes to describe yiff as “anthropomorphic sex” in a straight laced tone of voice is admirable
@DermajerTheAdventurer
@DermajerTheAdventurer 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how in the world he did this script completely straight
@SarethZhukov314
@SarethZhukov314 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know any furry nowadays who uses the term "yiff" lol. That's like 00's/early 2010's terminology.
@TWBIAP
@TWBIAP 3 жыл бұрын
@@SarethZhukov314 literally every furry.
@SarethZhukov314
@SarethZhukov314 3 жыл бұрын
@@TWBIAP Every gamer who enjoys a violent video game is part of the mass shooting problem in the United States. Literally every one. Violent video games bad.
@TWBIAP
@TWBIAP 3 жыл бұрын
@@SarethZhukov314 exception that proves the rule^
@OyVeey
@OyVeey 4 жыл бұрын
i can't believe you didn't use the word "yiff" until 38 minutes into the video. incredible
@naomisisk4663
@naomisisk4663 4 жыл бұрын
I would like this comment but it's at 69. Sorry man
@completelyroundoak
@completelyroundoak 4 жыл бұрын
@@naomisisk4663 its 97 now, go wild
@completelyroundoak
@completelyroundoak 4 жыл бұрын
@@Moon-tz1iy considering your channel's banner image has a bare ass on it with a little bit of fur and a tail, I'm not suprised you're the one to get mad at this comment
@greenishpiss3588
@greenishpiss3588 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moon-tz1iy I taste some salt
@greenishpiss3588
@greenishpiss3588 3 жыл бұрын
@@Moon-tz1iy YOU DELETED YOUR COMMENT SALTY LITTLE BITCH
@dragonicdragon3460
@dragonicdragon3460 5 ай бұрын
Wow this was very detailed, very nicely presented and extremly objective. Congrats! Also ive heared the same stories and thing by other sources and I feel like it very well researched to. Quality content fr
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 2 жыл бұрын
I've been a furry since 2012. It was helpful for me as a kid who had very few friends. I had a group of friends from a site called furryteens that was from around the country (and the world). I felt like I had a group of friends I belonged to, although I couldn't see them personally. Furries are pretty tight knit, a bit odd, but almost universally very nice. The ones who want attention are usually the ones starting and continuing drama, go figure. The community has helped me through a lot of dark times in my life. I'm a deer, if anyone's wondering. That was my original pick and it's been 9 years, I feel like it fits me very well. I had some idea of the history of furries up to the 80s, but this is so in depth. I appreciate you taking a very unbiased approach and researching something that must have been very obscure. And possibly disturbing lol. Great video, you've won my gratitude
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 2 жыл бұрын
@@aturchomicz821 Incorrect it is cringe inducing.
@aturchomicz821
@aturchomicz821 2 жыл бұрын
@@lastswordfighter OK Fiscal Conservetard🙄
@lastswordfighter
@lastswordfighter 2 жыл бұрын
@@aturchomicz821 You are godless leftwing heathen. Leftists are degenerates.
@TheRedTigon
@TheRedTigon 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got almost the exact same backstory! glad the community could help us both :D
@patrickripleyiii134
@patrickripleyiii134 4 жыл бұрын
Bro why is furry history more complex than game of thrones
@raksha7314
@raksha7314 4 жыл бұрын
Furries. Game of thrones before game of thrones was even considered.
@garysuarez9614
@garysuarez9614 4 жыл бұрын
The Game of Pelts.
@garysuarez9614
@garysuarez9614 4 жыл бұрын
@@d0gfl3sh Well...there was an attempt...
@edbwolf
@edbwolf 4 жыл бұрын
That's why the comunity It's so crap.
@Thebes342
@Thebes342 4 жыл бұрын
Truth is often stranger than fiction, as they say.
@vitre69
@vitre69 5 жыл бұрын
Furries are older than the internet.
@Minecraftgnom
@Minecraftgnom 5 жыл бұрын
Concidering that the egypts had signs of fascination interspecial-interactions, it's definitely extremely old. It's bound to humanity, as we are also a species of highly evolved animals.
@metalsludge8205
@metalsludge8205 5 жыл бұрын
Egyptian pantheon is composed of theriocephalic figures rather than traditional anthropomorphic animals tho
@TheAmubis
@TheAmubis 5 жыл бұрын
I am even older than internet... I'd be dead by now actually
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 5 жыл бұрын
Egyptians are the OG furries.
@redline1916
@redline1916 5 жыл бұрын
*Older than Egypt* *Gets hated more than the average person*
@HoduAphrodite
@HoduAphrodite 7 ай бұрын
Good job on making such informative and insightful content
@magicchaoswolf
@magicchaoswolf 6 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Just factual information, no judgement, no opinion, only information from a neutral stance. Loved it, just inspired me to watch more of your content.
@kurtcocaine4712
@kurtcocaine4712 5 жыл бұрын
“Down the rabbit hole” has a entire different meaning with furries.....
@reade_me
@reade_me 5 жыл бұрын
lewd
@raggedyexynos6826
@raggedyexynos6826 5 жыл бұрын
Fuckin ewwww
@malitedraggo
@malitedraggo 5 жыл бұрын
Nah dragons are better man
@reade_me
@reade_me 5 жыл бұрын
maxie is right
@Garangus
@Garangus 5 жыл бұрын
Disgustang!
@potatomahonman5008
@potatomahonman5008 5 жыл бұрын
"More serious treatment of funny animals"
@DarcOfTheShadows
@DarcOfTheShadows 11 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Charlene Trotman, the creator of the "burned furs" mentioned in this video, would later go by the name C. Spike Trotman, or Spike, and found Iron Circus Comics, a fairly major force in the indie comix scene and Chicago's largest indie comic company. She's also an avid pornographer and has published multiple smutty comics by well-known adult comic artists. After 20+ years, I think she's mellowed out quite a bit and I honestly can't find it in me to bear her any ill will; for all that her moralizing and puritanical attitude harmed the fandom as a whole, she always seemed to approach it from an angle of genuine, if misguided, frustration with the people she saw as harming her weird little niche of the internet.
@nicolasnamed
@nicolasnamed 10 ай бұрын
Hey wait isn't she involved in Lacksadaisy?
@speedwagon1824
@speedwagon1824 7 ай бұрын
Source? Because I can't find anything confirming this
@kameronpratt6085
@kameronpratt6085 10 ай бұрын
Now that I actually watched these videos from his channel, I still can’t stop hearing him without picturing Eldrad just narrating a documentary.
@caseyw1288
@caseyw1288 4 жыл бұрын
"devientart allowed nudity, but not pornography" oh how times have changed
@carlhartwell7978
@carlhartwell7978 4 жыл бұрын
@Peeps Thing is, some people are _turned on_ by what most would consider not even remotely sexual things. Put aside for the moment why they are. What it means though is that we wouldn't call an image of any of those things pornographic simply on the basis you suggest would we?
@carlhartwell7978
@carlhartwell7978 4 жыл бұрын
@Peeps Yes, and just to add to my point, I remember as an adolescent _using_ clothing catalogues as basically pornographic material, but it's hard (no pun intended) to actually call them porn. I guess it likely comes down to what the producer intends the image to be used for.
@catoticneutral
@catoticneutral 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that deviantart posts have still been banned for being pornographic recently. I think they just have a very narrow definition of what technically counts as porn, which is why fetish porn has managed to thrive over there.
@masterzoroark6664
@masterzoroark6664 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. 2018 and things went to shit
@sansaraee
@sansaraee 4 жыл бұрын
@Peeps Nudity isn't always sexual. Meanwhile pornography is.
@kingofhorses5745
@kingofhorses5745 3 жыл бұрын
I find it incredible that with every popular long running internet fandom, it started out as a couple liking a thing, and then meeting up, causing a few other people to like a thing, then some of then proceeded to draw porn of it.
@kujimelon7771
@kujimelon7771 3 жыл бұрын
69 likes, hell yeah
@thatoneguy9582
@thatoneguy9582 2 жыл бұрын
the circle of life
@Dyomaeth
@Dyomaeth 2 жыл бұрын
And then, just like that, they proceeded to sodomize animals, so quirky and funny!
@noone5281
@noone5281 2 жыл бұрын
Well i mean everything is like that
@polskri1747
@polskri1747 2 жыл бұрын
So Rule 34 is the future then Damn....
@cassandras8797
@cassandras8797 2 жыл бұрын
man this just made me miss the old internet, when we all had our own small little groups that kept to themselves
@pipbernadotte6707
@pipbernadotte6707 Жыл бұрын
You either die an internet niche, or live long enough to see yourself become the British empire.
@lively2774
@lively2774 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when me and my two friends were those edgy kids in 6th grade that said we should do all sorts of horrible things to both furries and weebs Funny how that turned out
@1ztype343
@1ztype343 Жыл бұрын
One half became furries, other half are like me and realize hating them was a waste of time and energy. I guess they won't be going anywhere.
@The-Devils-Advocate
@The-Devils-Advocate 10 ай бұрын
@@1ztype343nice pfp
@EngiGODS358
@EngiGODS358 7 ай бұрын
People who claim to absolutely despise furries 9 times out of 10 are gonna become furries.
@NightMind
@NightMind 5 жыл бұрын
OwO
@CaecusYT
@CaecusYT 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there four-eyes
@spenser5001
@spenser5001 5 жыл бұрын
hey cutie
@legonightwing6165
@legonightwing6165 5 жыл бұрын
Damn you fast
@mothbazooka
@mothbazooka 5 жыл бұрын
OH SHIT ALL MY FAVORITE CHANNELS ARE AWARE OF EACH OTHER
@reizex6302
@reizex6302 5 жыл бұрын
Night Mind is furry 100% confirmed, no doubts at all
@112523
@112523 4 жыл бұрын
ok ok. funny animals and funny vegetables i can kinda understand. but funny minerals? wtf? are they called stoners by any chance?
@aaa1e2r3
@aaa1e2r3 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Steven Universe had to come from somewhere
@Christopher-eq1rn
@Christopher-eq1rn 3 жыл бұрын
golems I'd guess
@shytendeakatamanoir9740
@shytendeakatamanoir9740 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Land of the Lustrous.
@undeadwaluwugi758
@undeadwaluwugi758 3 жыл бұрын
Gem-knight supremacy.
@cfruge444
@cfruge444 3 жыл бұрын
@@Shibe-mx3lc Ask Undertale Sans and/or Underswap Papyrus. *rimshot*
@astori9796
@astori9796 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say, love the thumbnail art!
@arthurdurham
@arthurdurham Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that the "burned furs" legitimately thought people's perception of furries had to do with specific actions and not the general concept of it.
@AbsolutGoblin
@AbsolutGoblin 5 жыл бұрын
Is nobody going to talk about *f u n n y m i n e r a l s ?*
@zoli6343
@zoli6343 5 жыл бұрын
Something, something Steven Universe.
@k_tess
@k_tess 5 жыл бұрын
Louie Pooh how?
@Lapha002
@Lapha002 5 жыл бұрын
Land of the Illustrious?
@treyforest2466
@treyforest2466 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! As a proud member of the Salty Fandom it’s about time we got some more representation.
@k_tess
@k_tess 5 жыл бұрын
Lapha002 I fucking guess?
@MurcuryEntertainment
@MurcuryEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын
TLDR: Furries are divided about what level of weird sex is acceptable.
@slapshot6ful
@slapshot6ful 3 жыл бұрын
Aren't we all though?
@dikbutkis7843
@dikbutkis7843 3 жыл бұрын
Furries are creeps
@onyxlunareclipse9958
@onyxlunareclipse9958 3 жыл бұрын
@@dikbutkis7843 not all furries are
@onyxlunareclipse9958
@onyxlunareclipse9958 3 жыл бұрын
yes but most furries prefer not to have sex in suits
@dikbutkis7843
@dikbutkis7843 3 жыл бұрын
@@onyxlunareclipse9958 if you say so
@ShamanKyrick
@ShamanKyrick 6 ай бұрын
Got to give a shoutout to Lava dome 3, 4 and especially 5. I met many artists on there, notably Rangarig, Ahastar, Diablo, Timanth, Salamander, and Zed's Lair (Zed being the biggest influence to me to discover the larger community) . Each artsist's webpage had a 'Links' button that took you to their list of other artists they liked. Some animators and artists from 1998 are still in the fandom (most notably FA)
@KBKarma
@KBKarma Жыл бұрын
You mentioned DeviantArt was the earliest art website. Funnily enough, there was at leas one started before that: Elfwood was started in 1996, four years before DeviantArt. However, it was eclipsed by DeviantArt, and closed in 2016. I have no idea whether furries used Elfwood that much, though.
@PikaPetey
@PikaPetey 5 жыл бұрын
I always assumed they have been around for a Long Time. Just look at Egyptians! They considered furries GODS.
@jakespacepiratee3740
@jakespacepiratee3740 5 жыл бұрын
Hell, even the oldest recorded piece of art is a Furry: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-man So, if you REALLY want to blame someone, blame possibly the first artist who ever lived.
@ItsCosmoTewulf
@ItsCosmoTewulf 5 жыл бұрын
Now I want to go back in time to Ancient Egypt. What? Why are you looking at me like that?
@valkaerie8715
@valkaerie8715 5 жыл бұрын
We're the most ancient fandom
@i.ftekhar
@i.ftekhar 5 жыл бұрын
Pikapetey Animations they are
@horricule451
@horricule451 5 жыл бұрын
Are you in any way implying that furries are NOT gods? Infidel.
@randomusername3445
@randomusername3445 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, even furries thought that furries were degenerates.
@SadMaddyyy
@SadMaddyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Trust me we know we're degenerates
@mattwolf7698
@mattwolf7698 4 жыл бұрын
A lot still do.
@etherraichu
@etherraichu 4 жыл бұрын
What group *doesnt* have degenerate elements? XD
@randomusername3445
@randomusername3445 4 жыл бұрын
@@etherraichu true, but they never hijacked the fanbase
@Beegpapijimbo
@Beegpapijimbo 4 жыл бұрын
Self loathing furries are pretty common. Ya like what ya like but it doesn't mean you're proud of it.
@deeeeniiiiss
@deeeeniiiiss 7 ай бұрын
I love going through comments on topics like this with a lot of hate because the newest ones are always hate, and most of em always have a reply from the SAME OMEGA INSECURE GUY, who comes to the video every day to see if he has anyone new to defend his life choices to.
@SuperSoundtracksEX
@SuperSoundtracksEX 9 ай бұрын
Oh how the turn tables
@jurisfootrag
@jurisfootrag 5 жыл бұрын
There was a furry in leather dominatrix gear at the first furry convention. And the rest... is history...
@nyanoid9092
@nyanoid9092 5 жыл бұрын
Letssss forget about that....
@codybrady6637
@codybrady6637 5 жыл бұрын
we can"t, didn't you watch the documentary? the fandom was basically created on the idea that anthro cartoon characters can be for adults and and appeal to adult tastes; drama, violence, philosophy, sex and other artistic expressions. Even though some of the more disturbing stuff is there (and we shouldn't allow most of it to see the light of day) it's still as much a part of the fandom as those who only draw sfw art and are more vanilla, being overly exclusive will only divide the fandom more.
@nyanoid9092
@nyanoid9092 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many children are in the fandom? Exactly.
@codybrady6637
@codybrady6637 5 жыл бұрын
no, cuz i'm not quartz husky. I know there is a lot of children in the fandom and it's ok IF we have separate spaces for them! Conventions are doing the right thing when they either don't allow children or have special admittance for them with permission from the parents and the con staff needs to keep them out of the nsfw section of the dealers den. This is not easy on the convention staff though so there possibly needs to be separate conventions that are geared for children and people that don't want to be exposed to anything over pg-13. Adults and children can share the fandom but there must be a DISTINCT DIVIDING LINE between the sfw and nsfw parts of the fandom!
@DanafoxyVixen
@DanafoxyVixen 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many children are in ANY fandom? Exactly.
@elephantofdoom
@elephantofdoom 5 жыл бұрын
This proves that if you do something ironically long enough, you eventually forget and do it seriously.
@dorklymorkly3290
@dorklymorkly3290 5 жыл бұрын
That is because irony does not exist and is used by enemies to disguise subversion as a fun pastime. Anyone who wants to peddle irony to you should be told to kill themselves ironically. Chances are that they will not do so. Why? Because they would be unironically dead. Ergo, irony does not exist as an end product. What comes out looks, acts, smells like the real thing and is indistinguishable to it.
@rumory
@rumory 5 жыл бұрын
or, If you say something it eventually becomes reality
@D0NU75
@D0NU75 5 жыл бұрын
oh you mean the 4chan Bronies¿
@Hyperversum3
@Hyperversum3 5 жыл бұрын
@@dorklymorkly3290 Yeah, you don't get It. "Ironically", by definition", means to do/say/make something with an humourous aim. Let's take gay sex (since we are under a furry video It makes sense). Picture this. I am with my group of friends playing DnD or some other RPG. I play a female character. Then we go out to get a beer and while discussing the game I say "If I was a woman irl, I would totally fuck you dude" while joking about my character and he says "Let's fuck anyway, c'on" and then laugh. That's irony. If you then have sex in the bathroom, even if you say "no homo, it's Just a joke" It doesn't make It irony. There is a clear distinction between irony and "saying something is irony just to cover my real interest in something". In fiction this can be used in many ways. But if your parody of... Let's say, YA distopya novels, doesn't make the reader understand that it's a parody you Just made a bad parody. Irony, as written in novels at the start of the 900, was pretty easy to see because the writers did a good job
@jackrose3542
@jackrose3542 5 жыл бұрын
dorkly morkly I don’t think you know what you’re talking about
@matthewdaub
@matthewdaub Жыл бұрын
The heads of furry conversations look exactly like I thought they would.
@DukeOnkled
@DukeOnkled 11 ай бұрын
This is really funny considering Fred's Twitch streams nowadays.
@rosymuscovy7967
@rosymuscovy7967 5 жыл бұрын
No rabbit furry in the intro. 0/10
@chrisillness
@chrisillness 4 жыл бұрын
16:25 - "And we actually had to deal with police who had to go through the dealers room to deal with people who were selling bootleg videotapes." Imagine being a cop in the mid 90s being called in to tell the grown man dressed as a cartoon wolf that he can't sell his "Chinese cartoons" to people in the Holiday Inn lobby.
@pigof7626
@pigof7626 3 жыл бұрын
The cop, “I’m sorry sir but your not allow to sell Chinese Winnie the Pooh vhs because of copyright law.”
@Boneshunter13000
@Boneshunter13000 3 жыл бұрын
I never imagined that kind of situation actually happening and realising is not a bad fanfic...
@blackmugen999
@blackmugen999 3 жыл бұрын
That is what i pay my taxes for good sir!
@AmberAmour
@AmberAmour 3 жыл бұрын
Never would I imagine that.
@idontknowimebored77
@idontknowimebored77 3 жыл бұрын
@@pigof7626 like hell I won't
@Dragon-Doxin
@Dragon-Doxin Жыл бұрын
1.17M subscribers only? Dude you deserve a lot more!!! Amazing job!
@bmfbbmfb
@bmfbbmfb 7 ай бұрын
down the rabbit hole is a pretty funny channel name to be putting out a furry doc
@Apric0en
@Apric0en 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get over "funny animals" and the "funny animal fandom" because it sounds like he's trying so hard to cover up the term furry even though it's just that the term didn't exist yet "I'm not a furry I'm a FUNNY ANIMAL FAN"
@jmtrad1906
@jmtrad1906 3 жыл бұрын
Well, like the video said, the term furry came years after the fandom was formed
@sosifox
@sosifox 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmtrad1906 would it be wrong to call them fafs
@meyadin5844
@meyadin5844 3 жыл бұрын
im a proud funny animal fandom person
@cooltwittertag
@cooltwittertag 3 жыл бұрын
"I'M NOT A FURRY I JUST REALLY LIKE TO DRAW ANIMAL DICKS"
@snubcube
@snubcube 3 жыл бұрын
@@cooltwittertag that's honestly worse than being a furry nsfw artist, basically admitting to zoophilia
@Cavi587
@Cavi587 5 жыл бұрын
God, who would've thought furries had such a backstory. I always assumed it started with the internet, but as it seems it goes back a lot more.
@EsmaillZ
@EsmaillZ 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the internet was what made them able to congregate in larger groups. It's similar to the pedo rings that are being found out all over the world.
@josephgodsey7742
@josephgodsey7742 5 жыл бұрын
All furies are also zoophile said and necrophile said, let's not forget. Flurries also congregate online and sometimes rollpla- I mean traffic children.
@EsmaillZ
@EsmaillZ 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephgodsey7742 Said who?
@JayEnfield
@JayEnfield 5 жыл бұрын
How do you think all those funky animal-headed gods got started? Centaurs on vases were for jerkin off to.
@gusty7153
@gusty7153 5 жыл бұрын
It goes way back. Disney's Robinhood was originally based off a mideval furry fanfic called Reynard the fox. Not to mention Hindu and Egyptian gods and a lot of gods from ancient cultures were furries
@hsthatzo8063
@hsthatzo8063 9 ай бұрын
One a weak soul gazes in the rabbit hole long enough....
@Koyomix86
@Koyomix86 Жыл бұрын
In the manifesto when they talk about “Burned fur” I think of it as a Metal Gear monologue
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