That's a parody account.

You could link Mister Metokur video for additional information

A parody one, hm? Too bad, would have been hilarious. Especially considering that JO ended up transitioning as well.

I wish you would make the videos longer.. I really enjoy your content it's interesting

This was sad to know. I feel bad for the man

/s

HaHaHa sarcasm.

@Jaegar Ultima Channel Awesome is hanging on by a thread!

@Jaegar Ultima I'm not. Channel Awesome never cared about the people that it hurt!

@Jaegar Ultima what did doug do?

(MW2 flashbacks)

So that's what happened to Armake. I wondered at the time what was going on. He then got a second account; "NicotineAlien." I recall _that_ account got suspended and he got a third account but I don't recall its name at the moment.

War never changes.

War has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War--and it's consumption of life--has become a well-oiled machine. War has changed. ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control…everything is monitored and kept under control. War…has changed.

@@Rubberduck248 Pretty dry sense of humor you got there, bud.

Ha, amateurs. I'm 38 and still live with my parents.

@@bonecanoe86 Youre a loser dude

Yeah, except Bidenomics is much worse than the growing economy of 2002 - 2007.

Captain Insano shows no mercy

Half of the Indian stories are basically of the same theme: man is his worst enemy.

It's such a common flaw they gave it a name that we still use today: hubris.

Well God's are also involved in Greek tragedies lol

So true... P.S. ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA! (I'm sorry)

Geek tragedy*

>with my katana

you mean ar 15

the prize on that one was bullshit, but inspiring people to try their hand at amateur movies was a good thing.

motor man are you trying to green text on youtube? or are you saying that "motor man" (is greater) with my katana? does that also mean "motor man" (is lesser) without my katana? *mfw he tried to green text on youtube*

I don't know man, something must be up with my browser because none of that text is green. It's really weird, I'll see if using a different browser helps.

God, absolutely. There's so many cases like Spoony's that it's driven me to want to use them as some sort of case study. There's both a morbid fascination and real cause for concern among watchers that I think should also be addressed, especially since we could have a WHOLE discussion about how content creator/fan relationships impact both parties.

Guru Larry knows how to evolve and adapt with the times.

@@RoyStantz Great,thanks , i now know never to look them up as their fans are obnoxious.

@@conornutt Whose fans are obnoxious?

Or they grow up and they’re adult content creators on regulated platforms.

You made me laugh, thanks man, i needed that today.

Okay? If someone ruined a large opportunity I'd hate their guts too.

Ha summerslam

Honestly I think his story about his ruined "opportunity" was complete bullshit. I don't see how spoony being loud at E3 would somehow upset Mojang or E3 at that random guy years later.

LordKats entire argument hinged on having his identity mistaken for Spoony. My feeling is how about you get pissed at someone mistaking you for someone else or even yourself for being so not memorable people confuse you for other people. It was obviously Lords best attempt to burn a bridge while attempting to make it look reasonable i.e. not about burning a bridge. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.

Yeah that dude did nothing to help his own case. Tells someone else to act like a professional then proceeds to swear and call him immature insults such as "retard".

loooser!

He was probably just fed up with him after he fucked him over and started attacking his fans, he just needed to let that out I’m guessing

I don't like him either but I think LordKat did have a point.

He makes shitty video game videos and was pissed when someone was being unprofessional. Spoony was expressing his opinion on a new game and everybody got pissed because they wanted sponsorship deals. If anything I respect him for being honest rather than lying like every other journalist out there. He's a relic from before youtubers were as worried about getting advertisers and review copies of games. I'd rather watch videos of a loose cannon than whatever Lordkat was trying to be.

I agree, dude/lady. Most of the people who weren't up their own asses, had left Channel Awesome, some notable examples being Spoony, the subject of this video, Angry Joe, The Rap Critic, ToddInTheShadows, and many others, and I'm not saying the people who're currently there ARE up their own ass, maybe some of them are, or maybe they're planning to leave Channel Awesome, because it's becoming a disaster. I'm still a bit upset that things turned out the way they did for Noah, but, there's no turning back now. It's sad, things had to end like this for the guy, and I WAS one of those hopeful fans, awaiting a comeback of some sort from him, but it seems like, just as the writing was on the wall for That Guy With The Glasses, it's there for Noah as well. I've read updates, as of December 2019, his website's gone, his girlfriend April left him weeks prior, he's rambling incoherently on twitter, his house is in foreclosure, it's hard for me to say this, and to say goodbye to one of my favorite content creators this way, but it is what it is. Spoony ain't coming back. A sad story, with a sad ending. I'll always remember the great videos Noah made, my favorites being the retrospective on FF8, even if I disagree with his negative feelings on the game, the review and videos themselves were funny enough. A few more of my favorites were the Ultima videos, the playthrough of Phantasmagoria 2, and Ripper. It's too bad, what happened to him. A real tragedy, he had talent, but he just kept getting smacked down, repeatedly, and, now he's gone for good, it seems. Gone, but not forgotten. Sorry, for the long rant.

He scaled the wall, got around the barbed wire and then fell 20 feet face first into a landmine

@@philipweber9545 Yeah, pretty much... it really is sad what happened to Noah. The guy had legit talent, like I said a month ago, but he kept getting smacked down, at every corner, everywhere he looked, he just kept getting knocked back. There was just no way he could recover from these horrible events, one, after another, after another. He didn't deserve that. He even got berated by his ex-colleagues, like what we just saw in the video, his girl left him, AGAIN, he's sadly, rambling incoherently on social media, his website's gone, and his house is in foreclosure. How do you recover from ALL of that happening to you, at ONCE? But, life's just unfair sometimes, dude. And there's nothing we could do about it. It really sucks, having to leave like this, but we have to face facts, and the writing on the wall, Noah Antwiler, ain't coming back this time. Sorry. As much as I'd love to be wrong about this, like I was wrong about ProJared, it doesn't seem like it this time. It's sad, tragic, and just straight up unfortunate, what happened to Noah. It's also sad he couldn't see the writing on the wall a 2nd time, for his website, his relationship, and his house, as well. Yep. He fell, face-first, into a landmine, and got sent flying, Smash Bros style, into the screen, and lost his last stock; sadly enough.

@@shawnfields2369 he seemed to have done most of the bad parts himself, and although some people deserve what they have coming to them, this guy lost it all, and there's an underlying tone of sadness throughout.

@@philipweber9545 Yeah, there is, hence why I mentioned how it was a sad and tragic story. He lost everything, and I'm not saying he did deserve what happened to him, but seemingly, all the bad stuff that happened, seems to have happened because of Noah himself, apparently. I'm only saying, dude, it was mostly awful what happened to Noah. But I just liked his videos. I didn't know most of the bad things that happened to him until I saw this video, and heard about the bi-polar thing. Which were 2 different things. I saw the video at a different time, and heard he had bi-polar disorder somewhere else. Still, it kind of sucks, to be in the position he was in, and to know that most of it was your own fault. I can't say I don't feel at least a little bit sorry for the guy, but yeah, you're right, dude. There was an underlying tone of sadness throughout his story. I agree, completely, dude.

He admitted that he was violating a NDA with Channel Awesome by talking about this. Despite the incompetence (at best) of CA, no wonder a gaming company wouldn’t trust him!

Kat is an idiot sperg, hes blaming spoony for his own shortcomings

"You got a small d*ck, and you're f*cking afraid of it!" Bro was really losing his mind on that podcast

Calling someone "a moron" is quite professional. /s

The guy sounded like a total tosser to me, Lordkat that is. Calling someone else a loser, but came across as one himself. 🤷‍♂️

When his videos where upploaded to 480p

Ikr. Damn I feel old.

Damn, that's impressive

@@zebare726 i remember when only the 'good' computers could play a 480p video x''D

dont make me feel old!

It’s a fate worse than death.

For that he'd need a job first. Let's see how long until he ends up on the streets.

damn thats depressing asf lmfao

Could you imagine how it must feel to become famous on KZfaq, lose it all, and a few years later you see a video on your rise and fall, and then you see a comment about how it would be terrible to experience becoming internet famous, having shit go down hill and then seeing a video chronicling your rise and fall? How atrocious

Ok

What bad does he do to himself? It looks to me like he has no regrets at all.

taking a sledgehammer to his own career, for one. not regretting it doesnt mean that wasnt a bad idea, hes just not self-aware enough to realize what he's done, or i guess angry enough that he doesnt care

It be ya ownself sometimes

His bad attitude pulled him down

Even more so when you have an actual mental illness, as he does. Although I don't know much about it, I can only imagine that living with bipolar disorder (in addition to whatever other ills he has, both mental and physical), can't be easy to deal with, and the fact that he quit seeing his psychiatrist can't be good. Where the hell are the parents he admits to living with for so long? Don't they know their child is suffering and needs help?!

That's exactly what I was thinking while I heard him talking

You can even see Joe kinda nervously looking around and thinking “this is really unprofessional dude, please don’t get us kicked out”

Lord KAT was just salty

however, with the benefit of hindsight, it has been shown that Noah was quite unprofessional, maybe a bit of truth mixed with his envy and hate - seeing someone who didn't put forth the effort of others being successful is frustrating, but that's the nature of popularity

My thoughts exactly.

What AA do you mean? Leaving Facebook and chan sites definitely improved my mental health.

Deleted Facebook entirely and limited my time on Twitter, It really does help

Twitter has caused more social destruction than the great depression

Social media was a mistake.

I make an effort not to use Facebook anymore. I only keep it downloaded because you get extra rewards for sharing from Love Nikki. Lolololololol

Yikes.

What a way to fall

@@srazysnake0221 His mental state definitely isn't better. He definitely needs help but he insists he's on medication/therapy and that it does nothing. He also seems to love telling people how miserable he is on Twitter for sympathy but like I said any advice is ignored.

I know someone like that. Creative guy with some talent but he's held down by severe mental illness and years of failures and rejections. He has completely given up, rejects therapy, rejects advice and seems to have accepted that his life is completely fucked and that change is impossible. It's heartbreaking because there's nothing you can do about it. Once you reach a state of utter hopelessness there's no way back.

Even with mental help, he'd still be a smug asshole. What Noah wants (I hesitate to call him Spoony anymore) is free money and a random girl to knock on his door and proclaim her love. Although, that Rachel girl that obsesses about him on Twitter is so crazy even NOAH doesn't want her.

In a cruel twist of tragic irony.

Holy Shit, your right! He was making it the whole time. He honestly knew the ending too.

sooner or later we’ll be having an afterlife spin-off by the man himself

@@TheKessi1000 What a twist!

There's a Spoony documentary that's almost an hour long.

Only thing I ever watched was his four man The Last Airbender review

Yeah that "why don't you be a professional for once" *immediately uses a slur*

I love too how he starts out somewhat calm and “professional” saying he doesn’t really want to comment too much on it and by the end he’s yelling FUCK YOU into his mic

LordKat is the reason people like spoony go insane.

@@chardaskie elaborate? im not sure what you mean.

He's a complete and total lazy sell-out and shill. He constantly complains about having "no time" even though he hired screen wave media to do all of the work for him...

@@85wastedyears nah fam you hatin

@@MrManueldx I did nothing but state facts.

@@85wastedyears oh nooo a man with a wife, kids, and a life outside of KZfaq doesn’t have time to make videos anymore guuuee 😭😭😭 guuu 😭😭 guuueee guee. cry harder.

He doesn't make videos, he reads monotone scripts about games he's never played written by fat fucks from Rental Reviews. Cinemassacre is dead, James is a zombie who doesn't care about his channel or making quality videos, and would rather say he has no time despite the fact that he has no other job and most dad's do triple the work and still are good parents.

onision is quaking

Shi “and behind every fall... I see him.” “keemstar”

@@jinn194 Fucking gnomeeee

For some reason I thought the basemen was in Berlin, girl's name was Eva and the downfall meant Der Untergang.

Unless your name is James Rolfe

literally the sanest one lol

@@retroblue69696 For real, James Rolfe is one of the most humble content creators on the platform..happily married and 2 daughters, a relic from the old KZfaq days and is still going strong

Mostly because Mike Mattei was behind his rants, James is just a talented actor

Angry Joe is still able to speak coherently.

Even the guy calling himself *Urinating* Tree is doing better than Spoony; he shot up to 500k subs in a few years and even got sponsorship. Fuck you Antwiler, just because you quote the man doesn't mean you get his success.

So the opposite of LordKat?

@@charmandyorton006 Apparently so, yes.

And LordKat was mad at him anyway.

Eh, he seemed like a bitch.

Thought the same thing.

what happened to him? i only learned about him from this video. i had only watched a few NC videos before the drama.

Yep...

@Malum Swing and a miss asshat. Try again.

@Mac Matheson you dont go outside much lol. There's a very subhuman undertone with saying that compared to white male. Blame history (not slavery literally 2000+). People use white male as a descrption of privilege not anything dehumanizing. Didnt think you needed an explanation on that fake woke one

I would rather compare it to; in the Titanic disaster, people fled the boat to survive. Spoony however, he was fired and thrown overboard.

raymondstanford Try comparing Channel Awesome’s scandal to Sandy Hook’s...

@@Liggliluff Terrible comparison. OP's was better.

Dan Olsen defended a pedo. The whole of channel awesome was a shit show according to the leaks. The leaks alone deserve videos of their own.

Fredrik actually looked over and talked about the not so awesome documents on his other channel. He also looked over CA’s awful response to the whole thing.

also doug barely sullied his reputation cause most of the change the channel names exposed themselves as petty assholes and most accusations against doug werent of the extreme variety

@@donb7519 Doug’s reputation is still pretty sullied, but he’s really more guilty of being ignorant and inactive than he is of being an actively malicious presence

@@breezingby2611 most people have forgiven him tbh at this point people are more mad at his wall review then anything he did back in the day

@@donb7519The change the channel thing didn’t put to much blame on Doug, most of it was on Channel awesomes crappy CEO and Dougs Brother Rob. At most in the interviews Doug seemed to come off as more naively ignorant then anything else. Course the fact he didn’t acknowledge or address anything and just pretend nothing was happening didn’t help his case, especially with the whole Justin Carmical thing when he himself made a farewell video to him after he committed suicide.

@@donb7519 keep talking yourself into believing that it didn't affect anything and everyone forgot. lol

Why even try to be a big Hollywood star in the first place? You gotta fuckin' build a foundation to even reach there. Take Brad's bud Ryan, who's worked on quite a few Asylum productions and still continue to collaborates with Brad to this day. He got far closer to Hollywood than Noah (and Doug) by having realistic expectations and properly paying his dues. Same can be said of the Red Letter Media guys, who've gotten quite the cast of guest hosts on their shows. Lesson of the day, kids: NEVER aspire to be the next Steven Spielberg. Instead, be more realistic and aspire to be the next George Romero, David Cronenberg or Wes Craven. You'd probably make it further with those expectations.

Though definitely less self-destructive than Spoony, that's the exact same problem that Doug Walker had with being the Nostalgia Critic. Despite having struck gold with his established format, Doug torpedoed his own success by trying to turn his "nostalgic movie review show" into a cringe fest of terribly-acted skits. He deluded himself into thinking that his success as an internet content creator translated into directing skills. I've never seen the "movies" he made, but have heard they aren't much better either, and the thought of watching an hour straight of those skits is terrifying. tl;dr Find your niche and stick to it.

well a lot of content producers felt like that back then

Ironically, this is the exact same problem with LordKat. And his rant against Spoony and Joe makes this even more clear. He boasts all that crap that Spoony ruined his opportunity with the whole "BETRAYAL" thing, but I bet the result would be the same even if Spoony did nothing. Because, seriously, who is LordKat at all? When I used to frequent the TGWTG site I didn't had any idea who he was before he appeared in one of Spoony's videos (the second one about the Pumpkinhead game). I did watch some of his "Until We Win" videos later and... I'm less than impressed. Don't get me wrong, I respect LordKat skills as a gamer, especially since his show focused on beating hard-as-balls games, but his show lacked charisma. My bet is that the guys at E3 that he spoke off that he believed would give a good opportunity to him also didn't had a fucking clue who he was, and were expecting one of the more famous members of site instead, and decided to use the "BETRAYAL" as a scape goat to quickly dispatch him instead of saying the truth straight in his face. (which is a dick move if this is true) Also, I find hilarious that he blames Spoony for not being professional (which, I will admit, it's kind of true) , but also procedes to call him a "fucking pussy", talk shit about the size of his penis, and just being equally immature. Guess that his idea of "professionalism" is the same old "kiss as many corporate asses as possible to climb the ladder", and I wouldn't be surprised if this mentality also got in to become a member of the site to begin with.

He had spoony campaign one of his most popular sessions of dnd which had a big following of people that brought many to watch his streams that otherwise just a consistent fan base of his. I remember the old days of showing up to watch them all, and just how the chat box would explode with people joking around and having fun. And, he invited spoony to his session. Then all sudden things broke down just like with CA and spoony left. The group went on then withered away. Then when Lupa event happens, LordKat just shits on Spoony with no holding back. It was stupid and even worse because LordKat had the same thing happen to him, where someone accused him abusing a girl at some event. Which you think after that experience LordKat wouldn't want to just shit on someone for a small mistake or accusation of harassment.

Linkara has kept pretty chill from what I know.

Biggest problem with Channel Awesome was that it was too spread out with too manyproducers in separate states that the main runners (mainly at the time the blow-up happened was Mike Machaud and Rob Walker) couldn't actively regard every issue (even when they tried) and unfortunately because so many issues weren't addressed (largely starting with the production of TO BOLDLY FLEE) the whole thing fell apart (and fortunately most are still doing videos thanks largely to Patron). Rolfe's lucked out because his content is largely all himself and occasional people that'll help him on videos; all of which can speak and work with him directly. Even now, as he's recently started including more people in other videos like J&M Mondays and the now ending RENTAL REVIEWS, it's still largely him in charge of everything.

Not insane, but he certainly has his own skeletons in the closet. Look up what happened between him and "Bad-Luck Bootsy."

I sometimes get the impression that the ones that crash and burn the most were the ones who didn't really have a lot else going on, and when the volatility of the job got too much it stirred up their existing issues (mental health etc ) and left them with no way out, I feel like if James quit AVGN back in the day he would have been fine and had other things to do weather it was professional work or other personal projects

Meh heard a bunch about Rolfe, a bunch of negative stuff that permanently put me off any of his videos..

Sexual harassment wasn't a fireable offence, and being 15 minutes late to an impromptu Skype call was. CA knows nothing of professionalism.

@@theMoporter That's my point. CA are anything but professional, and Spoony couldn't even meet those standards

LordKat's rant really has "I'm just jealous that Spoony is so much more talented and such a much nicer, more beloved person than I am" written all over it. He is just trying to blame his own failure on someone else.

So true

And yet he keeps tweeting.

April left him recently too, so I heard. The end has come, honestly.

Let's hope he doesn't go on some sort of armed rampage next

How did he cause the car accident?

@@ihvojd He ran a red light, hit another car sending one innocent person to the hospital. Then he lied to the police saying it was green even through there were multiple witnesses on the site. Then he bitched on stream that he had to go to court.

It would have been better if all of the producers' aliases were used. I can tell who Hope / JO is, but I can still envision some-one asking "who the fuck is Hope?" A small nitpick to an otherwise good retrospect.

Wait isn't he still doing content with Doug Walker?

absolutely agree i loved my time spent watching his videos. Grew up watching old videos waiting for new ones to come out. Miss those times when it comes to spoony

Ikcatcher oh the dcigs/angry black man thing is way worse and nobody even remembers the guy

You can try mister metokur / jim he has one.

Still watch his videos from time to time.

Perhaps

Dw you won't

You’ll be ok just stay vigilant

Darger seemed like a good guy. but he had the most TRAGIC life story imaginable that fear still checks out

Being in his videos means you fucked up the looser way.

Yeah I watched that. I was so surprised to see the guy from the game again and even more surprised he had spoony on. I think it did spoony good staying away from the Internet. Its like he was destroying himself for the Internet the same way some child actors do

Honestly I think he's the kind of person who should just keep away from the internet in general. I'm really glad he's doing better, but this is a shitty place, and he just might not be built to handle it.

@@schleepy6362 this really is the best way to put it. I started college basically right when youtube became a thing and then exploded in the late 2000s to early 2010s. It's scary how many of those content creators either just flat out disappeared, or it took a massive toll on their mental health

It’s rather unfortunate, especially since these sort of disorders only get more unstable the longer they’re left untreated. People with bipolar can lead perfectly healthy lives and can even use those moments of sudden energy to their advantage for productive activities. Spoony could have not only benefitted from treatment, it could’ve even helped him with his creativity and content.

He covered the documents released in livestreams. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j91_ibGHzdXPh3U.html

What more can be said at this point? The CTC document was covered to death, 95% was complete nontroversy and the whole Jewario thing has been addressed elsewhere and really I think its up to his victims to want to come forward and tell their stories; so far they've chosen by and large to remain private about it, they have zero to gain (everyone knows he was a monster) and a lot to lose.

@I Am Sonichu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, you're right, playing dress up in your 40s and grooming kids is totally kawaii.

@I Am Sonichu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was a sexual predator. Go fuck yourself, incel.

Just find mr metokurs video series on TGWTG really good.

I wheezed at this part, this person is a freaking genius

How much would those banner ads cost?

literally SO FUCKING FUNNY

so apparently you can bid for ad space on his site, so someone just bid one cent and won

I don't. Fuck Spoony

@@jordandennis6794 dude there's no "hero" and "villain" in this world two wrongs doesn't make a right

Lord Kats rant came off like a insecure man looking for a target to take his frustration out on. Spoony was a easy excuse for him to dump blame on. I mean hell... look at spoony... that dude is a complete train wreck! But Lord Kats star was always outshined by Spoony. And Spoony wasted his time in the spot light acting like a jack ass and lashing out at people. It makes sense that Lord Kat would take it personally. He was less popular than a self destructive, egotistical, loser and I'm sure that read as unfair.

@@progunjack5556 That definitely applies to almost anyone in Channel Awesome.

@@progunjack5556Agreed. Everyone wants to frame conflicts as if one side is a perfectly innocent victim, while the other side is a Faustian evil perpetrator. While out here in reality, most conflicts can be characterized as "Asshole being assholes to other assholes who are also being assholes."

is there a video of this?

It's in the video. I don't remember what timestamp, though, sorry.

​@@itsrainingmelons6202 Rant starts 19:47, just keep watching, thank me later

I had no idea who either Spoony was or this LordKat but that was my reaction as well. Calling someone a nobody while being a bigger nobody is quite stupid and then going on a long, curse word filled personal attack and end it with "why don't you act professional for once" is seagull levels of intelligence.

That's been Spoony's MO ever since his days writing for Knights of the Dinner Table. He's perfectly fine spewing all over other people's work, but when the least little criticism of *him* occurs, no matter how well-meant or constructive, he flies off the handle and screams for the banhammer.

Ja. Not just ignoring the trolls / haters seems to be a problem with a lot of these people.

Reminds me of my friend Alberto.

@@ernestbrown9660 This reminds me of an infamous german youtuber, the Drachenlord (Dragonlord). The difference between him and Spoony is, his content was shitty from the beginning and hasn't changed since.

"posting his tantrums" sounds more like LordKat

Holographic Marlon Brando I still don’t really understand what caused his content output to slow down so much. Was it loss of motivation? Laziness? Some kind of IRL drama? Had he kept on making stuff like Doug and co have, he probably would’ve survived.

@@unpopularopinions7407 Being someone who followed him back in the day when I was younger, trust me when I say that the relationship between his audience and him had LOOOONG been super vitriolic on both sides. Not trying to defend Spoony, I'm just trying to give some more context that I feel slipped through the fingers of the videos, but he would make videos talking about stuff he honestly enjoyed but would also talk critically about and everyone would throw it back into his face as, "oh Spoony hates everything!" and between that and (what looks like to me) mishandled mental illness (and ego), I feel like there's somewhat a trauma on his side. One of the big things I recall sparking it was his vlog about Pacific Rim, where he expressed how much he loved it but also thought critically of it, and a lot of really vocal and abusive fans kept spitting in his face, "you hate everything!" While there absolutely is a lot of valid criticisms you can make in regards to Spoony's analysis of media, this was more just a wave of negativity than anything that could've inspired further discussion. The Ultima retrospective series, especially the finale, I feel was (somewhat) a response to that, because the overall point is to show and gush about a series he loves that's been with him through so much. So between normal vitriol, a loud audience practically gaslighting him over whether or not he likes what he likes, mental illness, and ego - I think these compounded together to cause the decline. It wasn't a sudden decrease, it was gradual. Note: while I've got a lot of mental illness stuff going on myself, I'm not as familiar with his diagnosis, but I hope I can sorta help explain the lead up to his long standing paralysis of healing. I know for me, it's really easy for my brain to put me in a paralysis state where it can be difficult to make myself get up and eat. Brains are big ol' fuckin' messes. Overall I hope it's clear that BOY HOWDY I don't condone the bs he and many people around him pulled, and this quarantine I've gone back a bit to see why I got into his work as a kid and figured oh god I would not have gotten into it now. However, I don't wish the fucking soul crushing downward spiral of despair and depression on anyone, and hope he can get some help as I do not wish suicide upon anyone. There's ways to learn, heal, and grow (though more difficult now with the plague and how shitty the US is) for him.

@@balloonfiesta15 well said.

It’s called depression.

@@canadiangemstones7636 I was gonna say something along the lines. I mean, that tweet is a very basic definition of depression. I don't know the guy but people seem to not notice or forget, that depression is a real illness and mostly not really anyones "fault" even though there can of course be more nuance to it.

Keep in mind there weren't many people making content back then... People was just desperate for content

@@paolo2763 yeah, good point.

Spoony was great back in the day. Maybe it was a different time and you had to be there, but his videos weren't just humorous and entertaining, there was also a sense of comfiness to them. The way Noah filmed in his bedroom with minimal editing, no stupid jump cuts, very few skits, made it feel more like you were sitting with a buddy shooting the shit about old video games.

I won’t defend the endless vlogs where he rambles and his awful personality shines through, but for the time his reviews were ok and his commentary was very entertaining, and he had a good knowledge of obscure bad movies. He had a very natural, easy camera presence and wasn’t a total tryhard like the Nostalgia Critic. It was perfect ‘comfy’ content and excellent background noise.

Comedy evolves over time as well. Think of all those top text/bottom text memes from 2011 that we all loved so much. Now just 12 years later something like that unironically would make us cringe

That's the only reason I know this guy, I just wanted to watch a video that explains all the Ultima games. And then I see there's some videos about his dramatic downfall lol. It's funny because why do people prop these these guys up in the first place

Kishin Zephrite everybody who donated might as well give their patreon to THIS guy! Lol!! 🤣

lol

I do also hope that Spoony goes go through with his Patron promise

@@worldsmostboringslotchanne1642 Fat chance of that.

"Just because you are a character doesn't mean you have character"

@@buggs9950 "I have character!"

i watched his rants and i analyzed them myself with a marketing perspective (because it was kind of fun) but i dont really think it makes sense for him to complain about it.

Yeah, Lordkat should be happy that Spoony gave his ego a flimsy shield to hide behind. If he was anything worth writing home about, he wouldn't have been "that fat guy hanging around Spoony."

Almost couldn't make it through LordFat ranting through his grease lined throat.. Egads! what a nut gargler🍆🥜

Oh yeah... Nostalgia critic's videos always had that moment where all the character stopped to hear Doug's _Enlighting wise words about the movie_ and then they all agree, saving the day. (Because, you know, Doug and his brother wrote the script)

Exact same story here, except once in a blue moon i'll put on kickassia to laugh at the cringe.

I never found Doug Walker that funny. His whole looney toons schtick was annoying and childish. At times he could give decent commentary. They had some good content creators on there but overall just a lot of pretentious and unfunny content.

Personally, I think Bennet and Lindsey got out of it the best.

@@stoneman472 Angry Joe seems to be doing really well too. 3+ million subscribers is by far the most of any CA or ex-CA content creator. I don't watch his stuff very often anymore (and he churns out a loooooooot of filler content) but he's remained true to his identity, never seems to generate any drama, hasn't tried to get too big for his boots and seems pretty happy. Good for him honestly.

@@LordMangudai true. Linkara and Phelan are still cranking out content and the regular and both have over 100k. Cinema Snob is still associated with Critic but he mostly still does his own thing and has over 150k. I'm just glad that most of them are still doing good

Todd in the Shadows still putting out content but kind of in the middle on whether or not he's popular or unpopular

@@progunjack5556 He's popular in a somewhat niche genre. The two names I immediately think of are Todd and Anthony Fantano.

Ugh, yeah. Especially if you're a former fan of The Spoony One, like I was. He really did just kind of break over the years. The more he focused on politics, the further he got into his storylines, and especially the more he came face to face with the fanbase his earlier, more juvenile work had created, the worse off he became.

Well, there was his girlfriend, but this didn't really help.

Kind of like Noah.... fuck that was too meta

And sometimes its creepy or it's something disturbing that I can't handle ( the pedo dude ) But yeah I guess it is but its also interesting

I see these as cautionary tales for future content creators.

I've seen folks in the comments say around the same time he lost his father too, so it's likely he wasn't in the clearest of minds, but the insults were/are well deserved lol

Who is this 'Lordkat' guy? I still can't work it out from the video? Sorry if I'm a bit slow.... how exactly did he handle the situation badly?

@@jacksimpson8529 lordkat was another of those gamers who wanted to pass himself off as a professional reviewer and journalist, back in the late 00's. he was part of channel awesome for a while, but was hilariously low rated because his content was garbage, and then he tried to join a 'professional' journalism team, and then spoony had his breakdown.

I get where he was coming from, but honestly he just came off like a man child trying to throw blame around. Lordkat was always... "alright"... he had his moments but he was never really that entertaining to watch compared to other channels. Throwing a fit and demanding the spoony held him back just strikes me as him trying to protect his own ego. Fuck spoony, and all, but bro... seriously... bring it down a peg. You weren't as great as you might think...

Hey it much have been hard being c tier talent on Channel Awesome.

Sometimes you have to have one for business purposes (publishers like to put it in as a requirement for writers, for example). Beyond that, idk why anyone bothers.

I spent a few weeks looking at Twitter a few months ago. It just made me depressed and baffled by human stupidity. There's no worthwhile debate there, the site isn't even formatted to handle debate very well.

Twitter just seems like a massive waste of time. Why Spoony of all people would take interest in such a thing I’ll never understand.

nostalgia chick also still releases videos under the name Lindsey Elis

How popular is Linkara anyway, does he do enough to get by at least? I'd love a video on the Nostalgia Critic, there is a lot to unpack there. I mean, he all but admitted the only reason why he keeps going is to keep Channel Awesome alive and help some of the smaller names.

And I'd say they're better quality than ever

from what I heard a lot of people like linkara just get by thanks to patreon. He said himself if it wasint for that he would basically be in trouble.

metokur's tgwtg did a good coverage on the topic.

lmaooooooo

Congrats on the move! I hope your new place is even nicer than the old one

Amelia Bee It is, thanks! Also, this is the nicest comment reply I've ever received on KZfaq!

👉😎👉

I didn't even know about LordKat until I saw this video. Not impressed. "Why don't you act like a professional" then proceeds to call him the R word... yeah... hypocrite much?

@@Armor8377 what's the R word? Reticulating? Redundant? Recalcification? I wish people would take *r*esponsibility for the words they wanna say instead of hiding behind the first letter like some kinda F word.

​@@brovid-19 seethe

Because Spoony did bring eyes to him. I had no idea who Lordkat was until he was in a video with Spoony.

@@ReiAnikaAyanami theyre right though. saying words like retard without a negative connotation, i.e. quoting a person, is nothing to be sheepish over. its really quite pathetic that people are afraid of just saying words lol

Looking at the Twitter feels like reading into my own mind

He looks like Italian projared

@@MCain-ky2yv *ProGerardo

Sammy oof

He's Anti-Jared

thought the same thing

Well, it's something. Wouldn't be optimistic yet, but it's something.

what is Fredrik Knudsen?

@@SImrobert2001 Me

He lives with family now I believe, maybe they convinced/forced him to start seeing help and get back on meds.

I think the only real way for Spoony to get better at this point is to keep him off the internet and try and get him integrated into a normal job.

Yeah. He seems to be enjoying streaming.

Good to hear. I hope he is doing better mentally.

He left out the worst parts, if you can find the full one or any other time LordKat brings up CA it's just a LOT of bile. He truly blames AngryJoe and Spoony for never making it big himself.

Fame hurts people alot hell I don't want to do KZfaq mainly because it feels like every KZfaqr losses his shit now or later

He seems like a spiteful man.

Listen to the incident between him and Diamanda Hagan. The guys is like the worst traits of a nerd all rolled up into one incredibly round ball.

Dr. G thanks for the info everyone👍

I love that he sandwiched the phrase 'act like a professional' between saying he's frightened of his stunted member and calling him a fucking retard.

@@travismcgrath6917 The greater irony is that if what I've heard from the grapevine is true, LordKat has done far scummier crap in all of a few years than Spoony'd done in his entire life. LordKat should've checked his privilege at the door instead of hammering a rap sheet onto his head.

As much as I think Spoony is kinda a idiot, Lord Kat really doesn't have alot of room to talk himself...

@@Thentavius holy crap. Really?

To be fair, not having a good look is baseline for Lordkat.

he chickend out

I'm surprised that no one tried to sue him after failing to make the movie.

The concept of a ‘Spoony movie’ sounds horrible. His skits were always middling at best - his best material was the casual commentary or “geeky friend simulator” type content. I don’t really wanna see Noah doing acting for a prolonged period.

Indeed, the spotlight got to him, blinded him with expectation, but mostly he shined it on himself.

So after Patreons cut and taxes, he had $40k in a year to make a movie? That's enough to live on. Nothing more. Who was he going to hire? Nobody? How was he going to afford costumes, equipment, props? I've never understood how fans think he was going to do all that, and his regular content, on that kind of budget, with no additional help. It's like a child's understanding of money when they get their first minimum wage paycheck, vs. the reality as an adult when you start paying your own bills.

is that a pot and kettle situation or... ?

@@brovid-19 yep

Or Keemstar calling Wings a bully.

@@BeyondBaito that's what I presumed, but i don't follow any of these folks and heard no juicy dramas so what happuhn?

GOD DANGIT WHAT HAPPENED, I NEED THE JUICY DEETS

I feel the only major error that he made was letting Mike have more control over the channel. But I am biased, seeing as I hate the man.

Joey LaFrond I've never met anyone who likes Mike

James actually isn't much of a tech guy. Mike has been handling the website all along.

I don't mind Mike, but I will agree that I feel like he has a little too much control over the channel.

That's Mike, he handles the forums and social media.

Retail Archaeology What was he like back then, if you don't mind me asking?

What was he like back then?

He describes his school days in many of his videos. As a fan it would be interesting to know how he was during that time.

I went to junior high and high school with him. He was your typical nerdy guy back then. Unfortunately he got picked on a little bit in junior high because of it. I think that all kind of stopped in high school though. He was always pretty funny and sharp and always seemed pretty nice. He certainly seemed a lot more emotionally stable in high school that he seems now. He played Magic the Gathering at lunch quite a bit from what I remember. We weren't really close friends or anything and we probably had a lot more contact in junior high and then high school. After high school I just kind of lost track of him.

Wow. Small world.

Poor guy. Mental illness is awful.

Add he lost Oreo to April. Oreo Twitter was blocked by April.

Who knows he might have been neglecting the dog and she was the better owner.

Mental illness is the worst but stopping medical help definitely was his undoing.

@Maxus Devasteitor He's finally going to start shooting the movie?

LordKat's living proof that anti-SJWs can be just as insane and unbalanced as SJWs.

Exactly. Jason is just a very bitter person in general and absolutely burns any bridge with anyone who even ever so slightly ticks him off. He talks of being professional, but he constantly does the exact opposite. Like, he had another TGWTG personality named Nash on his podcast a lot and seemed to be good friends with him. I stopped watching Jason's (LordKat) content for a few years, then one day decided to see what he was up to. The first thing I come back to is him calling Nash a "little bitch" and all that because of some small disagreement or whatever. It's sad honestly. I really liked Jason back in 2011 and 2012, but as with Spoony, he and his attitude were his own undoing.

The only thing I know about their interactions comes from an episode of Counter Monkey. Specifically, LordKaT made a serious tactical error during play that was detrimental to another player (he shot a bow into melee and hit the other player) but insisted he did it because it was the only option available to his character (rather than simply not acting that turn, which apparently didn't occur to him) but then Spoony pretends he's not sure it was actually him. Didn't really think about that until I read your comment. (I think there was this incident with Spoony barging in on one of his gaming sessions with others as well, and they all told him to piss off.)

That and he didn't even have the self control to stop him self from flying off the handle on stream and swearing up a hateful storm. How "professional", how "mature".

@@JadeEyes1 Lol just look at the comment section of any BFV video... or Star Wars TLJ video... or a Screenrant comment section... etc. and you'll have more proof than you'll ever need.

Stay safe! Good vibes sent to you my friend. I deleted my twitter. (Actually I never even really went on my account) We’re all one short tweet of people judging text as if they were horrrrrrrible actions

Zerodrag same hahaha.

Exactly man! I’m a work too lol!

Same here man lol

SAME, OMG, LOL

and a shit ton are

Whenever people "apologize" with such desperate melodramatic self-flagellating "oh I'm so awful" language it's practically guaranteed to be insincere. You can tell because they are still making it about *themselves* and how *they* should act rather than the feelings of the one they are apologizing to. They are putting on an act to gain back standing but they don't understand that they've done anything wrong. You can 100% tell that Spoony doesn't mean a word of those apologies.

He said the same things when people didn't like his review of Man of Steel. His 'apology' is the lashing out of a tantruming child. "I don't like that thing you said" "OMG You LITERALLY want me to CUT MY BALLS OFF and WHIP MYSELF in PUBLIC you ASSHOLE only MY DEATH will sate your BLOODLUST" Not an apology, but an attack. Making everything about *him* and how hurt *he* is. He's impossible to deal with. I'd feel bad for the guy but he just refuses to do anything about it.

Man I wish I listened to you.

Just looked at it now, its insane he has really gone off the deepend.

Not only that, but that whole "betrayal! betrayed me!" bit is/was a soundbite worked into his intro/theme. I can still hear it in my head; a decade ago I thought his Ultima and FF series were actually fun and some of the only long-form game critiques around. Honestly some of his stuff does hold up but he crashed HARD and it was obvious once he parted ways with Doug & crew that he lost all creative drive, shortly followed by his remaining sanity and judgement.

why was he saying betrayal all that big of a deal?

@@EpicRenegade777 because he threw a temper tantrum in the middle of E3, at the time when CA and BT we're trying to make a play at being more serious.

@@EpicRenegade777 And the x-com creators had a panel at the show. Many panel owners heard him and it dis-credited him from ever showing up again. He burned bridges. He should have edited in the sound after the show, and said the word quietly for the camera instead.

@@xenxander was it really a temper tantrum? seemed like he was just playing up for camera.

If the evil villain is a school shooter.

He's a Registered Sex Offender.

Oddly enough, he does have an archnemesis. And it isn't Noah. It's some fat loser named "Big Fazeek" who was on a reality show who's stalking him, for some reason.

I think you are giving him too much credit

@@Tornado1994 True villain

Twitter is cancer and absolutely nobody should use it

Twitter didn't force him to post those things. He's a grown man, start holding grown men accountable.

no. twitter didn't compel him to "joke" about wanting to sexually assault a coworker, nor anything prior to it, or after lmao he destroyed himself, not twitter, him. twitter didn't like, radicalize him, neither the platform itself or the people there did either. honestly i doubt it contributed at all to his mental decline or actions, feels more like it made him being a lil shit more publicly visible, it served as a window. his antics on his forums show he was just a dickhead from the start, nothing made him one, that's just how he is, and social media just gave us a window into it. i'm sure it wasn't pleasant that he got criticism or scrutiny, and when he got really shitty, the criticism was even more loud and harsh, and it affected him, sure, but... in a way, i just feel like what happened was social media enabled him to be awful in front of a public audience, so in a way, twitter enabled him, but i don't think it was much of what destroyed him itself.

He made a horrible rape joke and never sincerely apologized, and he even openly admitted multiple times that he wasn’t sorry. He was in his thirties at the time, so it’s not like he was just a dumb teenager who deserves to be cut some slack. I was on Twitter for years, and while I agree that Twitter is terrible, Twitter doesn’t make you do that sort of thing. This guy is not a good person-he’s got serious character issues-and it’s not just because “he spends too much time on Twitter.”

This man destroyed himself, Twitter didn't have to do jack.

I think James never chased the fame dragon like other people did, he released his video as a joke, got famous quickly and just kinda made more videos because people wanted them, he had some struggles on the way, but I think he is just a humble guy and it shows.

Nikagor perfectly put. I agree with most that his videos aren’t as good as they used to be, but he remained true to his roots.

He’s the og of game reviews and he also adapted to the times like now he does more podcast review style which is keeping his fanbase cause they grew older since 2007

His family grounds him.

I completely agree, the only one who ever put me off at Cinemassacre is Mike.. Other then that, James is probably one of the most consistent, humble people left on the net. So much respect.

OK, but people like LordKat do make the best observers and reliable narrators.

We really shouldn't be assuming and acting like we know the whole story. Spoony definitely ruined opportunities for LK, that we know. He had genuine problems with Noah, just because his rant is awful and there's some low blows in it doesn't mean he's completely blaming him for his lack of success. He's referring to the incident and how it affected his standing at cons and elsewhere. It is what it is, let's not act like we know everything about what happened but we do know that LK was right about Spoony.

LK is a bitter POS

more like avgn got bittersweet ending

And Linkara got the Silent Hill UFO joke ending.

@@opy702 Quite fitting since I remember him doing a Silent Hill comic run

@@valder8423 say what you will about linkara, but that silent hill comic run was genuinely awful

@@crimsondynamo615 I only remember him ripping off Spoony's Phantasmagoria larp ending. I thought that was amusing.

Yeah he show everybody his disgusting side

@@johnboko7110 See Lordkat/Diamanda Hagan controversy.

@@MentalLiberation Uh no actually 😆

@@johnboko7110 alright I'll show myself out, standing corrected. 😆. Oh look, a video on why Steven Universe is garbage....uh oh... this won't end well..

@@MentalLiberation Are you defending him ?

You didn't like cutting from different peoples bedrooms? shocking!

One of the revelations I got from this is that Spoony is cringy as hell, I cant believe my younger self ever found him funny. Even 5:14, when he was in his "prime" is incredibly unfunny. This is a almost 30 year old man. As I get older, all the "critic" internet stars are embarssingly cringy, Angry Joe, Nostalgia Critic, Sterling, etc. Only James Rolfe is not an embarassment because he knew this shit was a joke and kept it that way. No ego.

A Same here, I am ten years older, and I stopped watching them years ago. Even Rolfe became boring, and his stichk is lame

Bewt NC has def gone downhill in his recent yrs ever since he went all corporate it’s been downhill from there.

if i ever reach my prime im gonna quit before it gets worse make a couple hits and disappear off the scene that's my plan i don't wanna end up like them

SyncF It's even sadder as a long time fan. I'm not exaggerating when I say Noah is likely the most talented entertainer I've ever seen. With what seems like no, or very little, training, he was able to make incredibly enjoyable riffs, scripted videos, and storytellings which are all different skills.

grow up

Why do you care about some edgy man-child who went down on his own terms with his terrible videos, terrible attitude and edgy rape jokes

@@panterxbeats empathy?

Back when I was just starting college. Those videos got me through my college days ^^ They are the good times.

Back when I was little...

I remember when you used to be able to leave video replies on the video you were watching. And there was a little section on the page where it would show up. A comment wasnt good enough lol, they wanted you to leave a video reply.

They also had two comment slots for the most liked/disliked comment on the video.

Back when I thought 240p was acceptable.

Very true.

Give his Ultima videos a chance. There you see a reviewer with authentic, honest opinions and emotions towards a game, not held back by an imperfect equipment. Unlike most reviewers recently, who are just there for their marketing deals.

@@MforMovesets His FF8 review is one of my favourite things on KZfaq, it should be put in a museum. It's just a shame that having only gotten half of the way through the game after 2 hours of reviewing, he decided to cut back and skimmed the rest of the game in half an hour.

Feels like ancient history.

@@srazysnake0221 He kinda is. He just flat out sucks at making jokes on them.

@@srazysnake0221 Cause Doug is prissy about "Fair Use" with footage of movies (Even if other content creators have found ways to use footage no issue in transformative ways) so rather than adapt and find ways to use that footage in a way to meet KZfaq guidelines Doug decides to commit to his skits as a substitute. KZfaq's policy is far from ideal, but Doug is a guy who was never very transformative with his format so it's less KZfaq and more Doug's lack of creative video making.

Too bad he still wasn't funny :( s/o to retsupurae for making fun of him in, like, 2009.

And when he wasn’t getting personal in his reviews. His review on Adam Sandler’s Eight Crazy Nights still gives me cringe cause of that long segment of him mocking Sandler.