FX30 - Sigma 18-50 or Tamron 17-70? - Well, It Depends

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Thomas Fransson

Thomas Fransson

Күн бұрын

Filmmakers and Videographers argue over Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 and the Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 - These are two incredibly different lenses for different types of video shooters. In this video we do a comparison between the Sigma 18-50 and the Tamron 17-70 from a video shooters perspective.
Tamron 17-70mm Sony E-Mount:
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Tamron 17-70mm Fuji X-Mount:
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Sigma 18-50mm Sony E-Mount:
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Sigma 18-50mm Fuji X-Mount:
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Sigma 18-50mm For L-Mount:
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After a lot of testing I think you will have an easy time understanding which one of these great lenses that will work the best for you.
Samples and tests are shot on Sony FX30
BTS - Fujifilm X-T4 & Viltrox 23mm F1.4
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Wireless Mic: Rode Wireless Go II
Studio Mic: Sennheiser MKE600
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Field tripod: Smallrig CT-195:
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00:00 - Incredible Different lenses for videographers
00:27 - Specs Sigma vs Tamron
00:43 - Size - The Tamron isn't big
01:30 - Width & Reach
01:43 - Side By Side Test
01:46 - Stabilization Test
02:00 - Crop Problem
02:40 - Side By Side 50 & 70mm
03:20 - Bokeh - Sigma vs Tamron
03:40 - Distortion 1
04:11 - Distortion/Corner Sharpness
05:20 - Bokeh
06:00 - Sharpness
06:35 - Auto Focus Sigma vs. Tamron
07:04 - Focus Breathing Tests
07:45 - Crash Zooms
08:33 - Hand Held Video Test
08:45 - Stabilization Jumps Tamron
09:29 - Stabilization re-test Tamron
10:22 - Gimbal Balancing Sigma vs Tamron - Weebill S
11:36 - Handling & Ergonomics
12:00 - Manual Focus
12:37 - Weather Sealing
13:11 - The Other End of It
14:03 - The Picking
15:05 - No Winner
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@disclosureproductions
@disclosureproductions 4 ай бұрын
Just discover your channel! I've never seen a better lenses comparison than yourse before! Thank you, it helps a lot!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
Welcome! And thank you, that's great to hear
@ZackarySmigel
@ZackarySmigel 6 күн бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 6 күн бұрын
Thanks man!
@Kacper.Jezierski
@Kacper.Jezierski 4 ай бұрын
The real, best review. I'm choosing the tamron really soon and I can't wait to get it!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
Sweet! I'm sure you'll enjoy it!
@pedrogama948
@pedrogama948 Ай бұрын
Wow! What a review you made! Perfect! I have been researching both lenses and your video made it easier to understand the pros and cons, but since both are very good, I’m still in doubt 🧐 😊. Congratulations for the quality of your review. It’s very difficult to find similar quality around YT, lots of big audience channels publish reviews with too much talk and not enough examples, yours made the difference between the products quite clear. I must say that the example shots you made were really beautiful. Thank you! Cheers!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words. It makes me happy to hear all this. Let me know if you have any questions.
@Makulife
@Makulife 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. Information about the aperture range. Been looking all over the internet for this information
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure! According to B&H website (it's been a minute) Sigma f2.8-22 Tamron f2.8-16
@bennywen100
@bennywen100 Ай бұрын
Amazing review! I am sick of those reviews with just lab test and charts or full on talking without showing anything in real life. Your review doesn't waste time and come to the real thing. Wonderful!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
@vladimirterentiev2980
@vladimirterentiev2980 Ай бұрын
Thank you for such a deep review! It was helpful to me since I’m choosing the proper lenses in small budget!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@emiliobslopez
@emiliobslopez 4 ай бұрын
The best review of this lenses. I really searched that info about shake oss on fx30 and now I’m felling more confident to buy the tamron
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Glad to hear it was helpful!
@gillesmatheronpro
@gillesmatheronpro 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely great review, with test procedures very well thought out ! Thank you for bring some more water to the mill...
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 22 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@assasyaniv
@assasyaniv 4 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for your professional review
@Zaid_435i
@Zaid_435i 5 ай бұрын
Subscribed to your channel after finding your Canon user preset videos. Hopefully we get something similar to the Classic Chrome soon ✌🏼
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! Have you tried the Filmic Base yet?
@chrisenriquezproduction
@chrisenriquezproduction 2 ай бұрын
your video is the best comparing in all the other video i watch. Keep it up bro
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton, will do
@ManuelParodiRamos
@ManuelParodiRamos 5 күн бұрын
I already have one of these two. Had I found it before I bought mine I might have the other one! What a good review! Thanks for that!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 күн бұрын
Can't go too wrong with either one. Thanks
@REMY.C.
@REMY.C. 5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this excellent comparison. I was looking for such a review so I can choose a video lens for my xt4 because Fuji isn't apparently keen to renew that old 16-55 2.8. I'm not a fan of Tamron for having tested some lenses in the past but this one seems to be a very good one in a pretty affordable package. The image quality and the construction quality isn't on par with the Fuji lens (I need that aperture ring) but for half the price the discussion seems over. I'm almost sold on the Tamron.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@GilbertTV
@GilbertTV 5 ай бұрын
you got a new sub.. great content
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Welcome aboard!
@itsalexoh
@itsalexoh 5 ай бұрын
What I love about both of these lenses are how affordable they are, so a videographer really could have both for the price of the Sony 24-105mm. I think the tamron 17-70mm is great for shoots where you'd need that extra reach and VC for handheld, whereas the sigma 18-50mm would be perfect for a lightweight setup to fly on a gimbal. I've made the decision to actually downgrade from Sony full frame because of how much you can accomplish with an FX30 with these two lenses. Great video Thomas!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@oogabooga1997
@oogabooga1997 5 ай бұрын
Talking about quality content! Kudos!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much my friend!
@kalkydra
@kalkydra 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic content! Suscribed!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you and welcome aboard
@Bombe2707
@Bombe2707 Ай бұрын
thx for the review! Last year i startet with photography. I bought a used sony a6000, and chose the tamron because it has stabilization and a wider range. sry for my english im german :)
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Sounds like a great combo for photography!
@vitormanes3799
@vitormanes3799 Ай бұрын
Got the Tamron! The Vibration Compensation and the extra range made the difference for me. I'm very happy with my choice! Perfect match with my sony @6000.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Nice! Same here. And the weather sealing ;) It's my work horse
@NathanBrownisawesome
@NathanBrownisawesome Ай бұрын
Really awesome and helpful video, will definitely be watching out for your channel for future reviews, thanks!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@transylvanianrider
@transylvanianrider 5 ай бұрын
Great comparison ! I ❤ Malmo !
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@user-qe7gw4yv7y
@user-qe7gw4yv7y 2 ай бұрын
I returned Tamron 17-70mm ( Fuji x mount) the next day because it had very bad back focus issues at 70mm. Also at 17mm not very convincing. Got the Fuji 16-55mm f2.8 and was much happier. So back focus on a mirroless system. Yes it excists for sure😮
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 2 ай бұрын
Interesting - Bad copy or bad adaptation to the X-mount...
@kaverjordankharbteng2550
@kaverjordankharbteng2550 3 ай бұрын
I use my ZV-E10 with my Tamron and the combo is just perfect for professional use.👌
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
Great combo
@alindarko812
@alindarko812 5 ай бұрын
Sigma is the clear choice fot me. I'm still thinking at the 16-55mm f2.8 sony lens, considering it is weather sealed. I wonder if this lens could be balanced on a gimbal at any focal lenght as the sigma 18-50mm, that would be a big win for the sony. I'm shooting outdoor a lot and I am tempted to go with weather sealed lenses.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Nice! As you saw in the video, even the Weebill S handles the entire zoom range of the weather sealed Tamron without breaking a sweat. So the similar sized 16-55 would probably not be a problem on a gimbal either. p The 16-55 is an interesting option as it hits the 3rd price tier and rivals options like Sigmas full frame 24-70 (that also lacks stabilization) in price. I think that's why we hear and see so little about that lens, it's a tough sell on paper ;)
@caophongviet3275
@caophongviet3275 3 ай бұрын
16-55 is best, I love it.
@gillesmatheronpro
@gillesmatheronpro 22 күн бұрын
I used the Sony 16-55 mm f/2.8 G extensively, for the last 16 months. This lens is exactly as good as any fixed focal lens of its range in existence, facts proven by... dozens of tests (PetaPixel included). I used it on a Sony A7M4, with a little crop in post-production, just for the fun of it. I could not find any flaw in pictures, with a 300% zoom-in. And those were real-estate images, with lots of furniture, details, tiny objects, decorations, etc. I initially considered the Tamron 17-70, but noticed its soft corners... a no-go for interiors and architecture. And other usages too. Then, it did not feature any "assistance" on the barrel, which is a bit annoying nowadays. All reasons leading to go for the Sony 16-55. But Tamron know how to make great lenses (their 35-150 mm f/2-2.8 is a killer !), and I've owned some. Plus Sony owns shares of Tamron, explaining why they are so well paired with Sony cameras. I am eagerly waiting for the 2nd generation of this Tamron 17-70 mm f/2.8, because, lessons being learnt, it shall be way better optically and fitted with better assistance features. Before next year hopefully, as Tamron is currently renewing their whole range with major improvements along the way. And then, I may consider it... that 70 mm max focal length makes my mouth water.
@kieranwhitford
@kieranwhitford 13 күн бұрын
I went for the Sigma 18-50mm for my Sony a6700, and I find it great for client work! I wish the lens was fully weather-sealed, though I can always cover the camera in a pinch. I've been aching to get my hands on the Tamron 17-70mm and see how it performs with my kit, though I'm happy with the decision!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 13 күн бұрын
Good choice! They're both great options both the Sigma and the Tamron. Hard to go wrong with any of them.
@dirrito
@dirrito 3 ай бұрын
talk about barrel distortion, using frame with lots of vertical lines. Thomas know his thing! ill go subs to your channel man.. great content..
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
Thank you I appreciate it 🙏
@alllexjulian
@alllexjulian 4 ай бұрын
If you plan to use Tamron 17-70 with IBIS bodies, then forget about it. Tamron will make stabilization glitches, because Tamrons and Sony bodies stabilization can't recognize each other and in the result you might get stabilization artifacts. Specially shooting handheld. That is why I refunded Tamron and got Sigma insted.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
Well, lets agree to disagree there, I think my examples in this video supports my stand quite well ;) Have a great day!
@alllexjulian
@alllexjulian 4 ай бұрын
@@ThomasFransson Same thought I had same thoughts for first few months. Until some artifacts got so bad that no software could fix it.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
Well, apart from the faulty settings that I showed along with the examples along with samples with the correct settings. I haven't had any issues. During almost a year of frequent use. It's obviously no miracle worker that VC or any OIS for that matter. Some people put too much trust in those instead of using a gimbal when the shots calls for it.
@CocoKoi321
@CocoKoi321 4 ай бұрын
Still just choose which you like better The tamron is still the objectively better lens It depends just on which is in your budget
@super-z8943
@super-z8943 3 ай бұрын
The tamron has been tested a lot with IBIS bodies and no one found this issue. So either this is an user error. Or something broke along the way, maybe time to contact the repair center.
@syahruddinazani98
@syahruddinazani98 Ай бұрын
i have this superb versatile lens , tamron 17-70 and i love it
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
It's a great lens for sure
@JustAskThisDad
@JustAskThisDad Ай бұрын
I already put in RMA request for my Sigma 18-50. Somehow, no one has noticed that at f2.8 this lens is underexposing the image a lot. At least with my A6600. For example on Aperture priority and Auto ISO, if I go from F4 to F2.8, the image darkens a lot. I took some photos of my kid outside at 5.30pm under light shade of trees and they came out as if I shot them at dusk. The sun was still up high and the day was still bright. Indoors with the low light situation , F2.8 at 50mm just plain sucked. But F4 and F8 actually got better images (noisy but usable). Tamron was almost same price 'used like new' when I bought the sigma. I am sad that I let it go. I now have to buy the Tamron at full price as there aren't any discounts right now. :( Also the vignetting at 18mm is so noticeable. Like APS-C and you get vignetting? Come on Sigma, have you seen your own other lenses? I wish I had seen your review before buying it. I would have definitely chosen the Tamron. You made it all so unbiased compared to others I watched. Thanks!!!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
That sounds odd. I didn't notice any major differences in my side by sides, but I shot those in manual mode. Have you checked if you have any exposure compensation or exposure preview function activated on your camera? Sadly I'm not too familiar with the photo side of Sony but I know there's usually some sort of exposure preview on most cameras. If that's active the screen or image will look much brighter when you half press the shutter as the camera can override auto settings and open the Aputure or change other settings to give you a better view for framing and to grab focus. But the image will be darker than what you see on your screen when you lock focus. Just thinking out loud here if you still have the lens at hand you could try the lens in manual mode vs auto mode to see if there’s a camera that might be the problem. If not, the Tamron isn’t a bad lens either;)
@DWebbTheOldHead
@DWebbTheOldHead 4 ай бұрын
Both are great lenses in their own right, however, I chose the Sigma because of two things when it comes to travel………size and weight.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
It's the perfect travel lens for sure
@viktorbrunoe
@viktorbrunoe 2 ай бұрын
Hi, great video! Is the manual focus linear on the tamron?
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it is. Thanks
@viktorbrunoe
@viktorbrunoe 2 ай бұрын
@@ThomasFransson Ok, so the focus is not changing differently depending on how fast you turn the focus ring?
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Feels pretty linear to me.
@kalkydra
@kalkydra 3 ай бұрын
Removing price from the equation. Would you pick the Sony 16-55 F2.8 above any of this two? Cheers.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
I don't think so. The Sony sits in the same price range as the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 (full frame and even if price isn't a factor in this scenario, it can serve as a yardstick when comparing the pros and cons of these lenses. Performance wise the Sony isn't significantly better than the Sigma or Tamron. The focus breathing on the Sony 16-55 f2.8 seems well controlled. From what I recall it's not supported by the Focus Breathing Compensation anyway, so this wouldn't be a deciding factor. The AF performance of the Sigma and Tamron are both quite excellent, but we can assume the 16-55 would be slightly better. Compared to the Sigma you're getting a little extra width and reach along with better dust and moisture resistance. Probably better LOCA performance too on the Sony Compared to the Tamron you get slightly better performance when it comes to CA, but I wouldn't say the Tamron suffers from any major CA issues. The Sony have an AF/MF switch on the lens barrel and a smaller size. But you're missing out on the extra reach, image stabilization and weather sealing. So even if price isn't a deciding factor, it's hard to say what the Sony does that much better than any of the other options in my opinion. It is a nice zoom range and slightly more versatile than the Sigma but not so compared to the Tamron. And if you're going to get into Sony's full frame cameras later on, I'd rather grab the Sigma 24-70 and a fast wide prime for now. Or the apsc Tamron or Sigma f2.8 lenses. So in my opinion (and everyone can disagree if they want) apart from super small improvements in AF and optically on some points. It's hard to say what makes the Sony a much better option unless - one really wants native glass or that 16-55 and size happens to be more ideal than the smaller sigma or the larger but extended reach of the Tamron. Sorry that was rather long, but that's how I look at these three lenses.
@kalkydra
@kalkydra 3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasFranssonThanks a lot for the extensive analysis, it is much appreciated and it really helps to put things into perspective. I will take a look as well to the Sigma 24-70, cheers!.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
Glad if I'm able to help. Keep in mind that 24mm might not be quite wide enough for everything (even if I shoot a lot on a 23mm f1.4 myself) sometimes it can be a good idea to have a wider faster prime.
@traveloittemallu
@traveloittemallu 5 ай бұрын
I don't see STEADYSHOT NORMAL option in a6700, there is Active/Standard/Off, which one should I keep for stable footage?
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 5 ай бұрын
Standard would be just the sensor stabilization and active sensor stabilization plus digital stabilization.
@khanhvo8132
@khanhvo8132 3 ай бұрын
I'm using the Tamron and I got disappointed immediately because of the focus issue. It always goes out of focus when I zoom, even when I turn the zoom ring very slowly
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
That's too bad, i find it works ok with the FX30 as I demonstrated in the video. What camera are you shooting on?
@luisandradevideo
@luisandradevideo 2 ай бұрын
With a6700 is ok
@CocoKoi321
@CocoKoi321 4 ай бұрын
Btw Thr tamron uses their OLD technology RXD not their newer VXD autofocus tech
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 4 ай бұрын
Yep, works great on aps-c lenes
@mdenjoyer831
@mdenjoyer831 Ай бұрын
isn't the stabilization on the tamron in conflict with the ibis of the camera? the only lenses where ibis and OSS work together are some specific sony lenses on their FF bodies
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Nope
@mdenjoyer831
@mdenjoyer831 Ай бұрын
@@ThomasFransson i just watched a few other reviews and they all confirm that the VC of the lens fights against the ibis of the camera
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
Works just fine on the FX30 as you can see in this video. I've shot hours with this setup as I bought the lens with my FX30 over a year ago. Maybe they're using active steady shot or have their steady shot set to manual - Or think the IBIS/Steady Shot and VC can replace a gimbal. The ibis on the FX30 isn't great to begin with and who knows, maybe the VC and Active mode gets to sticky if used together. Not sure though why one would use Active steady and VC - But maybe some of them use none stabilized lenses and didn't change the ibis mode when trying the Tamron... As you could see in the video even I messed this up at first and had to go back and re-shoot some test shots ;)
@mdenjoyer831
@mdenjoyer831 Ай бұрын
@@ThomasFransson yes it when using active mode it gets worse
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson Ай бұрын
I can imagine, basically a tripod mode. Well, as I've used this lens quite extensively and cover the VC/OIS with examples in the video I don't think I have much more to add.
@RKKY-mf7fe
@RKKY-mf7fe 3 ай бұрын
Wow this answered everything. I have a Weebill S. Looking to build a FX30 platform cause I need autofocus for events and weddings. Currently a BMPCC4k shooter.
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 3 ай бұрын
That's gonna be a great setup for that. Have shot some events just like this.
@gibiskus915
@gibiskus915 26 күн бұрын
Thank you, from Russia!
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 25 күн бұрын
Always happy to be of use ;)
@dwmoto8653
@dwmoto8653 2 ай бұрын
Even if i really like tamron. I use both and finally i sell my tamron cause the size is too big for apsc. It defeat the purpose of apsc
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found what's right for you.
@MarttiSuomivuori
@MarttiSuomivuori 27 күн бұрын
Sigma is about half the size! Where are you? In Malmö?
@ThomasFransson
@ThomasFransson 27 күн бұрын
It the size of an aps-c prime pretty much. Great if you want small, bad if you need something to hold onto 😅 You guessed it, im in Malmö.
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